Double Unboxing! Double Regret? Seiko 'Willards' SPB151 + SPB153

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Just One More Watch

Just One More Watch

3 жыл бұрын

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Back to the future, or back to 'Nam? As will be explained, this one should really have preceded the 153 review but Mr X doesn't have quite the pull he thinks he has! Will mine survive until the SOTC video next week? Stay tuned to find out......... Cheers, Jody

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@ElijsDima
@ElijsDima 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko is awesome. Very few companies allow you to buy a thousand dollar lottery ticket.
@jaquino6786
@jaquino6786 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao this sums it up nicely. I really want to like these new releases.
@zman8340
@zman8340 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny when he said that I was like yep thats exactly how I used to feel . Then I quit buying them .
@misterman1371
@misterman1371 3 жыл бұрын
@@julioalbino9714 Seiko has poor quality control
@daveg7894
@daveg7894 3 жыл бұрын
Yup garbage quality control, and their movements are wildly inconsistent, atleast in my experience.
@roadgent7921
@roadgent7921 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko can go drink a gallon of piss as far as I'm concerned. I've got 9 Seikos - mix of autos and quartz; all of them bar 2 had some defects and/or stopped working. Exceptions being an early 80s secondhand 7548 and a Sportura ana-digi from early 2000s. I'm now buying F91s and other cheap Casios and putting new batteries into 30 year old Casio DWs which fire up like they were brand new - what a hoot.
@xxraverxxonxtacy
@xxraverxxonxtacy 3 жыл бұрын
Battle of the Willards: Seiko vs Chinese Specials homages, you need to make it happen just like the Submariner homage comparison. Thanks Jody.
@MrJohnnyorange
@MrJohnnyorange 3 жыл бұрын
@James Blonde San Martin OR Steeldive would win! Only if they can come up with an olive coloured face and bezel though.
@erikbasil2787
@erikbasil2787 3 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense, actually. Good idea
@maxp5422
@maxp5422 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko has much better steel you can't compare Chinese steel is cheap and not cured there are reasons they can do these cheap cases.
@MrJohnnyorange
@MrJohnnyorange 3 жыл бұрын
@munchkin42 With such a price difference! Who cares?
@MrJohnnyorange
@MrJohnnyorange 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxp5422 I'm wearing a Seagull 1963 at the moment, can't see anything wrong with the case strangely!
@12thsonofthelama86
@12thsonofthelama86 3 жыл бұрын
That price!The Horror..the Horror!😂
@JohnKruse
@JohnKruse 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko started trying to move up market.... After that, their, uh, ideas, methods, became... unsound.
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 3 жыл бұрын
Well played, sir.
@badbegetsbad
@badbegetsbad 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted a Seiko..... and for my sins, they gave me one. Brought it up to me like room service.
@masudaharris6435
@masudaharris6435 5 ай бұрын
The Willard is one watch that I prefer with rubber straps. The stainless bracelet looks like it came from another, non-dive, watch.
@Bierkameel
@Bierkameel 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 My problem with a 1000$ Seiko is that it looks like any 200$ Seiko. Also a pin and collar bracelet is a shame for this price.
@patrickriarchy6054
@patrickriarchy6054 3 жыл бұрын
Pin and collars are pretty secure compared to just cotter pins but they are such a pain in the balls to size. The only other pin system that is a bigger pain are the twin screw pins on a Marathon
@a_single_white_female
@a_single_white_female 3 жыл бұрын
What specifically do you find "inferior" with pin and collars? I think they are better than screws. Easy to put in, completely secure, and no mucking about with loctite. I don't see how they are functionally inferior in any way.
@gs6810
@gs6810 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, i bought a 400$ seiko and feel the same way. I would be pissed if it had been a G.
@tynchytemper9618
@tynchytemper9618 3 жыл бұрын
Don't understand the love for screw pins, as found in my 30 quid Air King from Aliexpress?
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 жыл бұрын
@@a_single_white_female Quickly using a small screwdriver is just more pleasant and elegant than pushing or hammering out a steel rod?
@jollyrob
@jollyrob 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko are the only brand where homage versions of their watches are the sensible and often recommended option. Fanboys only for this one.
@jfilm7466
@jfilm7466 3 жыл бұрын
I was gutted after buying a Turtle, it was boyhood grail watch. Then I saw the "homages" with aligned chapter rings and the lumed bezel. I love my turtle, but sometimes that misalignment makes me sad even after 3 years. I've got a 70s automatic Timex which gains 2 seconds per day which is better than my turtle. I'm not sure if I will be buying Seiko again until they get their QC sorted.
@WatchAddictionReviews
@WatchAddictionReviews 3 жыл бұрын
indeed
@BoogurTWang
@BoogurTWang 3 жыл бұрын
shoulda bougt a Heimdallr or SteelDive or another 'homage'.
@piansopian4069
@piansopian4069 3 жыл бұрын
I have a heimdallr 007 and it looks far more expensive than the skx007..
@erikbasil2787
@erikbasil2787 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it seems like the homage versions are actually better. I have a Heimdallr 6105 on a three link bracelet, waiting for me to unbox when I get home off the road. I have to admit, my expectations are high: they do nice work and they regulate the calibers. I'll bet you everything will line up, too.
@RyTyme
@RyTyme 3 жыл бұрын
A Seiko where everything lines up?!? Huh, are you sure it's not fake? lol
@christianvogler7867
@christianvogler7867 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a feiko off of wish out of curiosity and no joke, the chapter ring and hands were aligned better than any authentic seiko I’ve ever owned. It’s honestly a reasonable question to consider with these 😂
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a Seiko HOMAGE!!!🤣
@Robin6512
@Robin6512 3 жыл бұрын
that would be like a Mazda mx5 that doesn't make a noise.... :P
@Televisiontechnology
@Televisiontechnology 3 жыл бұрын
I had to get my eyesight checked to be sure ;-)
@sanjaysubraidu7617
@sanjaysubraidu7617 3 жыл бұрын
Saw this watch 2 days back at the Seiko boutique and alignment was OFF !!!
@Robin6512
@Robin6512 3 жыл бұрын
I really like Seiko. That said an out of the box citizen diver of 300$ is never a lottery ticket nor off beat and they run flawlessly.
@jasongennero2080
@jasongennero2080 3 жыл бұрын
That's Cuz citizen is actually a decent brand that cares about customer satisfaction.unlike trash seiko.what happened seiko?you went from beating or the Swiss at their own game to rampant qc issues on watches u charge 1000 bucks for that don't even have a signed crown.the seiko 5 atlas has a signed crown for godsakes man!
@jeff1176
@jeff1176 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasongennero2080 thats why I'm looking elsewhere for my next mid-level watch. I might just save my money and go to into the upper mid level watches.
@royroblox
@royroblox 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you about Citizen. I initially liked a greater percentage of Seiko's styling and ignored Citizen for a while, but then found a couple Eco-Drives that had the looks I wanted -- and both are flawless.
@S-Ltd1000
@S-Ltd1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@royroblox agreed. I've had a promaster Aqualand for 25 years and it's still running fine. Also picked up a new eco drive Aqualand bn2039 a few weeks back, stunning watch
@zman8340
@zman8340 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeff1176 that’s what I do
@PaulewingStHelens
@PaulewingStHelens 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been in two minds over this watch. I’ve got the SteelDive version and just love wearing it but it’s always in the back of my mind it isn’t a seiko . Watching both your videos now on this has pretty much convinced me it’s not worth a thousand quid. I’m going to stick with the homage. It’s got a seiko movement in it anyway and the bezel is ceramic where’s the seiko is aluminium. Plus that reading on the Timegrapher is shocking. A thousand pounds? I don’t think so. Thanks for helping me make my mind up. Excellent video.
@JustOneMoreWatch
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 жыл бұрын
Not worth it mate. Which is a real shame!
@MrFredrictai
@MrFredrictai 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am happy with my Steeldive too, just wish that the power reserve is a bit longer, otherwise it is a great 6105 homage!
@bert2530
@bert2530 3 жыл бұрын
Wel, reading this i think i just wil sit and wait for the mail the rest of the day. As i am expecting my Steeldive in the next 24 hours.
@kenpickett9317
@kenpickett9317 3 жыл бұрын
I got the Steeldive version with a sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, Seiko movement and machined from a freaken solid lump of bronze for less than 1/4 of the price of one of these!
@hopiamongo8119
@hopiamongo8119 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustOneMoreWatch the day is coming when seiko starts suing all this homage watches because people are buying the knockoffs
@eushan
@eushan 3 жыл бұрын
I've bought the blue willard for 1600 usd (such a price in my country) and i'm completely satisfied. I put seiko 5, the turtle and the willard together on a table and saw the noticeable difference. Willard looks like a high quality watch. Even my wife who knows nothing about watches told the willard is probably the most expensive one. In the same time it is the smallest watch. Even in comparing with seiko 5 the bezel of the willard looks a bit smaller. If u buy blue willard u get additional silicon strap, 6r35 caliber with 70 hours of moving, sapphire, diashield (it works), a piece of history and personal number of yours limited edition watch. Does it worth it? I'm sure it does. Thats why i buy watches. But if u want "just a not overpriced watch" u can buy Mi band or something like that. It's also telling the time.
@b.vonschnauser207
@b.vonschnauser207 3 жыл бұрын
Never. Not at half the price. Seiko has balls...
@3rdpig
@3rdpig 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wearing the Steel Dive Willard as I'm watching this. Maybe I just lucked out, but it's pretty amazing for $100.
@pb8153
@pb8153 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an awesome and better watch at 1/10th of the price - only the fanboys and people who don’t know any better are buying this Seiko version
@3rdstone1
@3rdstone1 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Great watch for the buck.
@maxp5422
@maxp5422 3 жыл бұрын
What about originality?
@pb8153
@pb8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxp5422 well how original is it for seiko to reissue an old design and charge a small fortune for it? I know what you mean of course and I am being a little sarcastic!
@Alexander-rz4br
@Alexander-rz4br 3 жыл бұрын
I have one as well. Fantastic watch. The bracelet of the Steeldive even looks better than Seiko's effort
@glitchmaker
@glitchmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Discount: the most romantic word for a Scotchman
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 жыл бұрын
Can't blame them.
@Supersyncopation
@Supersyncopation 3 жыл бұрын
Scotsman . Scotch is a drink
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 жыл бұрын
@@Supersyncopation I think there's a significant overlap.
@williamrizzo1285
@williamrizzo1285 3 жыл бұрын
But "freebie" is orgasmic!
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 3 жыл бұрын
@@Supersyncopation well Scots are probably 50% scotch since they consume so much booze lmao
@bignz721
@bignz721 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a SteelDive 1970 Willard homage a month ago. Been my daily beater & I cannot endorse it enough. With an NH35 movement, it is essentially a Seiko. Highly recommended!
@edwardcrater3591
@edwardcrater3591 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko, Seiko, Seiko. A thousand bucks and you still can't get it right. 😢
@kostya121212
@kostya121212 3 жыл бұрын
Can`t wait for the Seiko vs STEELDIVE Willard video !!!
@Bugster987
@Bugster987 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely happy with mine. Runs perfect (0 +/- spd). Everything lines up. I think the bracelet is decent too but like it on an uncle Seiko rubber best.
@balthus9265
@balthus9265 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for another great unboxing video ! I always appreciate when you put the watch on the timegrapher, one of the aspects that sets you apart from the dozens of youtubers that keeps mumbling their thoughts on the watch with few or any useful information.
@adamski101
@adamski101 Жыл бұрын
Each movement is different though in regard to accuracy so it is pretty meaningless.
@lastofmykind8
@lastofmykind8 3 жыл бұрын
Only have one Seiko in my collection. It was a gift from my girlfriend, awesome little quartz chronograph. For some reason every time I’m thinking about getting a Seiko for myself, something else beats it out!
@MrPleers
@MrPleers 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I was considering this watch. But ended up buying a Hamilton. It feels I dodged a bullit after seeing the review.
@lastofmykind8
@lastofmykind8 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPleers You’re way better off with a Hamilton over a Seiko just about any day. There are exceptions but that’s a good choice right there. What Hamilton?
@MrPleers
@MrPleers 3 жыл бұрын
@@lastofmykind8 The Pan Europ. I'm surprised that Seiko did not bother up their QC on a $1000- watch. Not to mention the unsigned crown.
@kristoffertmmerbakk1602
@kristoffertmmerbakk1602 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! I have the SPB237J1 and Ive been wearing it for almost 2 months straight, witch is unusual for me since i tend to change watches daily. I love the NATO strap's that comes with it. Only issue with it is that it wears a little high on the wrist since the NATO strap is thicker then the straps I am used to. I have been lusting for a SPB153J1, the olive green basel and dial is amazing and the rubber strap make the watch hug the wrist really nice. Keep the Seiko reviews coming!
@syncro16se
@syncro16se 3 жыл бұрын
The design is absolutely wonderful.. thanks Seiko. I have four of Steeldives homages to the 6105. Black, blue, green and a black/bronze. I've had them for a couple of months. Only problem is from day to day deciding which of them to wear 😃 absolutely wonderful. I don't own a seiko original. Thanks for the video, good as usual. 👍🌟🌟🌟
@varanid9
@varanid9 3 жыл бұрын
I had both. Both are beautiful, flawless, the polish of the steel is unlike anything I've seen (I think it's the Dia-shield, which I can vouch works great). I put the bracelet on the green one and kept it, but flipped the black one as I honestly preferred my Merkur because: IMHO, the indices reflect better so that the dial looks more iconically "6105-ish" to me (I think the size difference partially accounts for it, and the heightened polish too) and, for some weird reason, the black on the dial looks faded, and I don't mean very dark gray, it just looks like Seiko tried to make it look aged or something. And they're all like that so it is apparently intentional. Yet, no "faux patina" on the markers. Not sure what they were thinking there. The sunburst olive green on the "hulk" version is beautiful, though, and the indices show up better and the bracelet is possibly the best Seiko has ever made, giving my Marinemaster 300 bracelet a run for its money. Only minor complaint is that the end links aren't solid.
@JasonTheWatchGuy
@JasonTheWatchGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Love the history behind this model and they fit very nicely to wrist, I just dont think I'd ever want to own one myself!
@calumpatondrone
@calumpatondrone 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Sums up why I can never quite bring myself to spend around the £1k mark on a seiko even though I've often been tempted! We really shouldn't be feeling nervous when opening the watch box at that price for alignment issues etc. The willard does look great though!
@calumpatondrone
@calumpatondrone 3 жыл бұрын
I should say - im currently pining over the seiko sharp edge series - they look incredible!
@geordiebatt
@geordiebatt 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the Steeldive "Willard" recently for £89. It's really good, very happy with it.
@jamessmith6402
@jamessmith6402 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fabulous watches I especially like the green rubber strap version 👍😀 thanks Jody good video
@jordancalvey
@jordancalvey 3 жыл бұрын
Both of these watches are real beauties. However from reading the comments here, it seems a real shame that Seiko are losing so many Seiko enthusiast customers, to Chinese made homage watches. Surely it couldn't be so difficult to get it right at this price if the Chinese can more often than not do so at a much lower price. My SPB149J1 has the same issue with the bracelet clasp, slight misalignment of the lume pip on the triangle, movement accuracy is fine but now I would be scared to see what it's like on a timegrapher. All said and done though it is my favourite watch and I love the feeling I get when wearing it. Another very enjoyable video Jody, looking forward to your SOTC video.
@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm
@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jody for a great review! This review has pointed out and reaffirmed why I have not given Seiko a purchase in well over a year. Of the more than 15 watches that I purchased this year three or more would’ve been Seiko in the past. Less-for-more...That’s what you get now from my once favorite brand. Cheers!
@situation_zero
@situation_zero 3 жыл бұрын
Put the Willard on an Uncle Seiko waffle strap. It will wear and look 1000 times better. Cheers.
@denniscrowley8517
@denniscrowley8517 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a San Martin homage,with signed crown for a year and a half now that I thoroughly enjoy. Royal blue on a jubilee bracelet. Cheers.
@erikbasil2787
@erikbasil2787 3 жыл бұрын
Well, here's hoping my unboxing of the Heimdallr 6105 Willard goes a bit better! I've got one on a three-link waiting for me when I get home, and in my experience it is likely to be perfectly aligned, well calibrated and gorgeous.
@gerardogarcia-trio3572
@gerardogarcia-trio3572 3 жыл бұрын
Black! Yes... Congrats, beautiful watch.
@jeditrek
@jeditrek 3 жыл бұрын
Nice unboxing and sticker peeling. I’ve got the Black Willard on bracelet and love it. Thinking of the Blue Willard. I think they are beautiful watches. Everybody can’t love the same watches otherwise life would be boring. Nice video. 👍
@boutchmanz
@boutchmanz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review- you helped me dodge a thousand dollar bullet!
@seranadesongs
@seranadesongs 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice Jody, just don't think I'd spend a grand for it...
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 3 жыл бұрын
I reviewed the blue willard and A BIG DRAW FOR ME WAS THE ALUMINIUM BEZEL INSERT. Not a fan of BLING ceramic and sapphire inserts. My willard is doing 0s/day in 2 main positions. Sometimes Jody a watch is more then just a spec list.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 3 жыл бұрын
Hey jody is your willard fully charged. never seen 1ms error before. Make sure to give it 100 wind ups. not the usual. the 70hr power reserve makes it a bit finicky. You think its full. then give it an extra 30 winds and think its full and yet its still not. I've been tricked a handful of times that its full and I deal with seikos everyday. so wind it up before testing. 100+ turns minimum.
@kikomachine8276
@kikomachine8276 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it any better FT!
@NexDim.
@NexDim. 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree about the insert. All the generic ceramic comments get old. Not all watches need/ should have ceramic. Would ruin this watch IMO.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 3 жыл бұрын
This right here is exactly why I buy homages instead.
@bogrot69
@bogrot69 3 жыл бұрын
Me: "When I was a kid, the term 'Made in Japan' had serious negative connotations" Seiko: "Hold my Sapporo!"
@shaagaknowsyou5295
@shaagaknowsyou5295 3 ай бұрын
Sapporo is disgusting
@Todd_Whitehouse
@Todd_Whitehouse 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping/waiting for "Heeelllloooo and welcome to Just Two More Willards!" lol
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video brother! I just got the SPB143, and you hit the nail on the head about unboxing a 1K plus watch with fear. I can tell you’re flipping that baby 😂
@duk4you
@duk4you 3 жыл бұрын
Honest review again, a lot of money for a Seiko that you have pray it's ok when you open the box. A lot of micro brands are better value and build quality.i just ordered a Gruppo Gamma divemaster 2 for $530.00, they have a great reputation for quality ,ETA movement and out standing finish.
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 3 жыл бұрын
The GG is an $800-$900 watch. Plus, they are huge. It's sort of a different category.
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the watch Jody! Maybe it's worth giving it a try and regulating this movement to a better beat error. For some reason I prefer the green version SPB153. It also would spare you the shaky clasp. Cheers!
@shipmate3577
@shipmate3577 3 жыл бұрын
As a Tuna owner/fan, I feel that Seiko is increasing prices faster than they are improving quality.
@ThatGuy67672
@ThatGuy67672 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! I just bought the spb143 62mas reissue and I'm super tempted by this spb151 😁
@twinvader_
@twinvader_ 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t regret my Steeldive SD1970 purchase at all, especially after watching this! No misalignments or BS to speak of gratefully. No wonder you were critical of the Seiko at this price point Jody! Something about this homage/re-issue just seems gutless the more I think/see about it.
@ch_the_3rd72
@ch_the_3rd72 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I am not the only one with Bezel OCD. Love the rubber strap. Both are great pieces
@craig2100
@craig2100 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I'll look forward to the flipping video for the Willard..cheers mate.
@michaelkruszynski8524
@michaelkruszynski8524 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! You've convinced me that my US$134 Haimdallr 6105 homage was definitely right choice 😁
@joegrasso8552
@joegrasso8552 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honesty , just because it'sa Seiko, doesn't mean it's always a winner.
@marks2791
@marks2791 2 жыл бұрын
My Seiko Willard is perfect. Very happy with the Seiko divers at this price point. Bought a couple online. No issues at all.
@stevenglossop4274
@stevenglossop4274 Жыл бұрын
Likewise love mine too ,had a couple of homages didn’t do it for me .Quality side by side is night and day different.My bezel lines up perfectly no issues .love it
@El1988Che
@El1988Che 3 жыл бұрын
The snow is because of the cloth you used. I was having similar issues until I removed the cloth lol
@ezeztztz
@ezeztztz 9 күн бұрын
My seiko Willard was around -18 for 1st few hours,it then quickly went to +5,I’ve had it for 3 weeks now and it’s consistently +5 daily,you cannot expect it to run perfectly straight out of the box.
@stusims6567
@stusims6567 3 жыл бұрын
I’m judging from your tone of voice that you will NOT be keeping this one. GREAT VIDEO JODY!!! 🤐😷🥴
@JustOneMoreWatch
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 жыл бұрын
SOTC coming this weekend, you'll find out!
@gnarl12
@gnarl12 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustOneMoreWatch hey, Seiko says they're moving upmarket.... Nothing mechanical under $250-$300.
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 3 жыл бұрын
@@gnarl12 Since when were there a bunch of Seiko mechanicals with retail prices of
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 3 жыл бұрын
As a silver stacker I got a belated idea today. Could a watch be made of high grade silver rather than stainless steel? Some 92.5% coins stay pretty OK over the years. It we ould add some heft and make the watch more of an investment. 5 troy ounces is $125 right now, so not too bad but could make it a bit of a baller later on. Imagine a $200 high grade Pagani silver sports watch?
@Throstlecock
@Throstlecock 3 жыл бұрын
My Addiesdive SD 1970(basically a Steeldive)which I bought for £72 in the Aliexpress 11.11 sale arrived yesterday.On the time grapher it shows nil beat error,nice high amplitude(301)and plus 3 seconds a day.Apart from a slightly stiff bezel,which aligns perfectly all round and which will loosen in time,there are no other QC issues,so I am very well pleased.Maybe Seiko should buy from these Chinese companies and stick their name in the dial!. Great video as usual Jody,thanks.
@anthonysmith2982
@anthonysmith2982 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh Seiko! Ive spent quite some time justifying the price of my new Alpinist SPD123J (the cream and gilt dial variant) lately. The movement in it and the SPB Willard are the same and the RRP is the same ballpark. I picked up my Alpinist BNIB for $700AUD, including delivery & full warranty. I love it and I believe it's well worth the $ - in fact I reckon it's well worth the $900AUD that you can easily buy it for online now. Reason being, whenever I ask someone who's critical of the price of the Alpinist for an alternative that offers everything it offers for less $ (respected heritage brand, fully in-house ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴛʜɪɴɢ, Japanese made, proven reliability & after sales support, easy & inexpensive servicing etc., etc.) they just look at me blankly. 🤷‍♂️ The Seiko SPB Willard does not pass that particular test IMO. I don't agree that the mm & a 1/2 missing from the case diameter is not noticeable. Put the original 6105-8110 next to the SPB and SPB looks,... all wrong. When I can pick up a San Martin Willard from AliX for $300AUD incl. express shipping, the usual shit-house buying experience is improved, but even considering that you are pretty much fucked if you have a QC issue, I didn't have any of the legitimate concerns that Jody had with his Seiko when opening my San Martin Willard. I'd much prefer to have Seiko on the dial of my Willard but I'm not going to spend over $750AUD for the privilege, especially when I think - all things considered - both watches offer about the same. Cheers mate and good vid. A.
@gibmebalut
@gibmebalut Жыл бұрын
I don’t own a 6R, but I have had 4R movements that had a disturbing amount of noise on the time grapher when fresh out of the box. Luckily, the noise cleared up. Had a break-in period, I suppose.
@rkillalea6706
@rkillalea6706 3 жыл бұрын
Still the best watch channel on KZfaq
@saevans63
@saevans63 3 жыл бұрын
I like Seikos but can’t see myself getting this one. For the price you would expect the movement to be spot on with minimal beat error. I’ll stick to my Steeldive homage
@OwynDavies
@OwynDavies 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy when you think that the more you can spend on a Seiko the more it becomes not worth it. They're in a bit of a rut at the moment and it's mostly down to QC.
@OwynDavies
@OwynDavies 3 жыл бұрын
He says after just buying himself a Captain Willard 😂🤣
@JustOneMoreWatch
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahhaha! Did you?
@OwynDavies
@OwynDavies 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustOneMoreWatch The green is too alluring. Tesco Clubcard vouchers in Goldsmith's halved the priced; rude not to!
@JustOneMoreWatch
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 жыл бұрын
OK, that's fair enough. It is a sweetie at the right price. Enjoy!
@renngretsch
@renngretsch 3 жыл бұрын
Got a bronze Steel Dive with all bronze bezel. Great watch. No Seiko envy at all.
@eggsII
@eggsII 3 жыл бұрын
What does snow on the time grapher mean?
@pokie6087
@pokie6087 2 жыл бұрын
Got mine on order. I love this watch.
@vonyp6018
@vonyp6018 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 1969 6105. My grandfathers dive watch. The lugs are 19mm and the crown guard doesn't look right. I think the accuracy of the movement is spot on though. Lol
@tituslivius3495
@tituslivius3495 3 жыл бұрын
I love the dark green dial! I know it is not worth the money, however the design is gorgeous. Would love to see a Unimatic watch review if you can get your hands on one. Best regards!
@calnative4904
@calnative4904 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of Seiko’s, but I am a big fan of Citizen dive watches.
@duncanb1981
@duncanb1981 3 жыл бұрын
Under appreciated and overlooked. They certainly deserve more attention.
@jasonhjorth1684
@jasonhjorth1684 3 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff Jody. Keep up the good work. I have bought and held off buying a couple watches based on your ‘without fear or favour’ reviews. I’ve been looking at a couple of Aussie brands like Melbourne Watch Co., Bausele, and Panzera. Could we see a couple of reviews on Aussie brands like these maybe?
@dmks2146
@dmks2146 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer aluminium and pin and collar over ceramic and screws but at 1k the movement should really be flawless. so much competition at that price point.
@iainrossiter758
@iainrossiter758 3 жыл бұрын
I have the black Willard X. It’s a beautiful watch. A step up in quality over my Turtles. It’s a nice homage to my original 6105-8110 but just doesn’t have the wrist presence in shape or weight to the legend. I prefer my Turtles on the wrist over the Willard X. It’s such a shame as it could have been an incredible model. I suppose they didn’t want to go near the hugely expensive limited SLA version. They all need a rubber strap as well!
@cloud12274
@cloud12274 Жыл бұрын
Had the sla033 for a few years now and it's build quality is mint
@danielhristov6175
@danielhristov6175 3 жыл бұрын
I bought myself a king turtle manta ray a few months ago. 650€ 4r36 movement and misaligned chapter ring and bezel. Hard to reason why i paid so much when my dad paid 99 for his pagani with better quality control and same specs
@n00dyl69
@n00dyl69 3 жыл бұрын
if only my wrist could wear one. love that green one.
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko lost my business a long time ago. These little imperfections are not about OCD, my complaint is that it is sub par quality. Here's my question. Guys who hate quartz, doesn't it bother their OCD that automatic watches can't keep accurate time?
@glennpowell3444
@glennpowell3444 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.That's exactly why I am very much a quartz only guy!
@zman8340
@zman8340 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thats why I Like accurate autos
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 3 жыл бұрын
@@zman8340, just curious, which automatic watches keep perfect time?
@zman8340
@zman8340 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregalonzo747 I never said perfect . But I’ll take +/- 2 a day . I think thats quite extraordinary for something mechanical . If it was all about perfect time no one would need a watch anyhow . The phone I’m typing on would suffice .
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 3 жыл бұрын
@@zman8340, now we are arguing semantics. Hell, a smart watch keeps better time than an automatic. I find that amazing, but not enough to buy one.
@roderickos3980
@roderickos3980 3 жыл бұрын
Jody at his best. Thank you very much! I'll skip those and my guess is so will you. Cheers!
@auskenner
@auskenner 3 жыл бұрын
I got the blue limited edition of the Seiko x-Willard (SPB183) last week. I came with a perfectly aligned bezel and it's a great watch. But it does not get a lot of wrist time, i actually prefer my NoLogo Steeldive Willard-Hommage. To me the Seiko Willard Re-Issues are like Angelina Jolie: Nice to look at, but that's it.
@paultaegel5641
@paultaegel5641 9 ай бұрын
This video put me off the Willard for a good while. Then I saw the blue version and had to have it! Zero regret. Mounted alternately on an Uncle Straps Z199 and a blue isofrane.
@jayeyesacks1604
@jayeyesacks1604 3 жыл бұрын
Simply put, S-eiko's P-ricing B-lows and S-eiko B-oys D-on't C-are
@ryanthomas9306
@ryanthomas9306 2 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are the reason I bought the steel dive. Still looking into one of the new turtles if I can get a sale tho
@frankdux6930
@frankdux6930 3 жыл бұрын
And for those exact reasons... Is why i jumped ship to San Martin.
@trulsdirio
@trulsdirio 3 жыл бұрын
So basically I did good with getting a chinese special 6105. Thanks for the affirmation!
@discount8508
@discount8508 3 жыл бұрын
my favourite seiko diver ..........smells like victory
@popdufc4139
@popdufc4139 3 жыл бұрын
Watch out for the Head Dips. Had a bit of glare of that spot at the back of your head on thr "wheel of fortune" moovie. Personally I have blinded people with my LED/HEAD combo. Nice video
@darrenfry4695
@darrenfry4695 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the Seiko Willard and also a steeldive homage and yep you got it the steeldive was better than the Seiko and a lot less money lol 😆
@1minutewatchguy
@1minutewatchguy 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, I’ll stick with my $300 mini Turtle Padi. The ‘upgrade’ doesn’t seem worth it.
@chrisb5986
@chrisb5986 3 жыл бұрын
These are gorgeous, as are the 62MAS reissues. I wish the movements weren't rubbish. My $75 vostok has a better movement. My $500 Steinhart has a MUCH better movement. Smiths makes a lovely mini Williard with regulated Seiko movement and zero quality control issues. I am never selling mine.
@ald4104
@ald4104 3 жыл бұрын
Is the lug to lug like the skx013 ? I like it a lot, but I am afraid the watch will be too big on me
@jeffone
@jeffone 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really wish someone would wake up over there at Seiko QC.
@gnarl12
@gnarl12 3 жыл бұрын
For $700-800 it would be a great buy, or at $1000 if it had the brushed ceramic bezel that Seiko used on other divers..... Amusingly, the King Turtle kinda has it beat spec for spec excepting the power reserve.
@cdb7876
@cdb7876 3 жыл бұрын
Jody's Seiko Willard...GONE!!!! Or it would have been going on vacation!
@pakhong123
@pakhong123 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the Seiko SPD15x VS Steeldive SD1970 comparison soon...
@balthus9265
@balthus9265 3 жыл бұрын
Jody, what rubber strap do you recomend with a good cost/ benefit ratio for a Seiko turtle ? Almost bought an uncle Seiko, but I’ve heard mixed reviews about it. Thanks !
@ThoseBrothers
@ThoseBrothers 3 жыл бұрын
Just proves the Steel Dive and San Martin watches are better value for money albeit if you accept it's not an original design....But I just can't see the value in how much Seiko is charging.
@johncoote5134
@johncoote5134 3 жыл бұрын
Does it beat a homnage though Jody? My Steeldive for £100 looks to me just as good? I totally get the Seiko thing.... but a grand?
@malkinmalone
@malkinmalone 3 жыл бұрын
yes! we are due for a new seiko review.
@arigouverneur
@arigouverneur 3 жыл бұрын
What I would like to know, the back of the case is finished so nicely, rounded to the caseback. When I see product images of hommages, the back seems flat. Doesn't that make the watch wear less comfortable? Thanks for all the videos!
@oktc68
@oktc68 3 жыл бұрын
Think I'll stick with my SD1970 🤣 Great video thanks.
@chrispeek380
@chrispeek380 3 жыл бұрын
It's not clear to me what's in Seiko's head at this point. I was a huge Seiko fanboy in years past, but as the QC issues became more and more apparent I sold off all my Seiko watches. The poor value for dollar Seiko currently offers vs the competition in many of its mainstream mechanical watches is almost offensive at this point. Admiration and love for Seiko's history and past products has carried them a long way, but its not going to cover up sloppy execution and bloated pricing forever.
@flymorenow
@flymorenow 3 жыл бұрын
Many nice watches out there for less. Nice video Jody.
@dandubois3529
@dandubois3529 3 жыл бұрын
The rubber strap fits this watch perfectly. Unfortunately, I’d never spend 1K on a Seiko
@josemavalmateu791
@josemavalmateu791 3 жыл бұрын
If it has to be a Seiko, the hardlex turtle is more than enough, and you can find pretty good deals on the black faced rubber one. Not so many moons ago....1.500 bucks bought you a Marine Master, with a 8L35 movement, A Sumo with 6R15 was roughly 500 bucks and the SKX ruled the world.... All is lost. I missed pre prospex times.
@JustOneMoreWatch
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother!
@theleastsignificantbit4794
@theleastsignificantbit4794 Жыл бұрын
But the Prospex logo is so cool, y’all! Why isn’t “AUTOMATIC” under “SEIKO”? And why don’t they put that godawful Prospex logo ONLY on the case back? In three years they’ll release a super-limited edition with more text on the dial than a G-Shock. Pure class.
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