oh if Doug and pat profile their amps I might jus have to buy a Kemper :)

In a mix noone would ever know. Plus an old amp could get stolen. I'm sold

great to see you guys with an open mind to this stuff, the Kemper is an incredible piece of engineering.

I have a Kemper, it’s literally all I need. I got rid of everything else I had and got a bunch of Michael Britt profiles and I’m done! I have a friend that swore for YEARS when I using a Fractal that he would NEVER use anything but amps/pedals. He uses a kemper now....It’s seriously that nuts!

I've been thinking for a very long time about getting a kemper (I'm a home player, about to move into a flat/apartment from living in a house) and this video was really helpful. Every other video I've ever watched about the kemper I could never really hear any difference whatsoever. Finally I've found a video with comparison that actually seems to sound different - the kemper profiles had a noticeably flatter sound whereas the live amps had much more range to my ears. That being said, for someone like me - where volume is an incredibly important concern, the Kemper is the obvious choice. You get 80-90% as close whilst being able to maintain reasonable volumes (or use headphones)

After a year owning my Kemper and still going back to back with "real" amps. I can say that the Kemper is still a joy to own. I use a powered head with a 412 cab with green backs and v30's mixed. So most of my profiles I use are Direct ones profiled without the cabs. I really love the little toaster. Saying all that, I still love "real" amps.. Great time to be a guitarist.

We're all thinking the same thing.. Wouldn't it be amazing to try the Profile for this amazing amp! Even if it's a taster to a full Profile Pack for the AC10 SRT, now is good!

I own a Kemper and here's a few observations I have made... 1. The sound that comes from the Kemper is a recorded type sound, NOT the sound of the am,p if it was right next you. Think of the sound, as what you would hear if playing through an amp and the speakers were in an iso booth and the mic was sending the signal to the Control Room. What you hear is the monitored sound. That will throw some players if they are only used to playing their guitar through an amp that is with them in the room (speakers & all) 2. Compare that sound against the actual signal chain & on first pass it is close to 95% the same. The two sounds will be different, ever so slightly, BUT if you blindfold tested that, my bet is you couldn't tell which was which in a Control Room playing test... 3. I am surprised how the Profile responds to playing ..... I have a very nice clean Fender Deluxe Reverb Profile that I use as a pedal platform. But if you dial that Profile up, it breaks up as the volume increases, just like a Fender Deluxe Reverb from that era would. Turn down the volume (either on guitar or Profiler) and it cleans up.... 4. For the travelling musician gear like the Kemper are godsends. Quite a number of touring festival level acts use Kempers or other technology like the AxeFX for their main back line as it reduces transport costs. Acts that are privileged to get promoters chasing them, CAN have the Kempers put into riders on contract and all they have to do is turn up with a USB stick (loaded with their profiles) for their back line sound! 5. If you are recording and get a unique sound from a signal chain, you can capture that sound and load it onto a USB stick. THEN when you do shows, the recorded sound is just an upload away. No arguing with FOH engineer about how you got that sound in the studio. 6. Weight. This goes back to transportation.... The Kempers weigh a lot less than an amp head.... At a pinch you can put it in as overhead luggage on an aircraft... 7. Sound Level Restrictions at a venue. "TURN THAT AMP DOWN" often means the death knell fora good sound, but with the Kemper that is not too much of an issue as the Kemper can be turned down volume wise but still retain the hot amp tone. Send it to FOH/PA and it's still rocking. ALSO, the Kempers aid the philosophy of silent stages..... 8. In a crowded bar, 400 people watching and dancing to an act, there is no way they could detect you are not using a real amp or a Kemper, if you do the Profile right in the first place. It's that close to the real amp even on first Profile pass....

Great example of what the Kemper can do for all of us vintage guys listening on this channel. The Kemper is amazing! (More good news - prices will come down as time passes :)

I have to say that's pretty cool, but you know if I could afford what a Kemper would cost, then I could afford two of my favorite amps and that would be just fine for me.

How do I get my hands on the profile of that map

I would like to see a video with the UA Ox amp with the hailed AC10 Vox. Thanks Doug and Pat, always love your show.

Never thought I would see the day! Greetings from the UK!

Id be all about that AC10 Kemper profile, sounded good! Obviously not as good as the actual amp but pretty dang close ;)

Just listening on a cell phone, the live amp recordings had a more presence and a livelier high-end. Not to say that couldn’t be dialed in with the Kemper. I’m sure it could be even closer if not dead on with Adjustments in post prod for recording. Nice video as always. You all inspired all my PAF shootout videos. Keep’em coming. And do another PAF shootout with the Righteous Sound RAF. They deserve some spotlight. I promise you’ll dig.

You should have asked him to post the FREE profile for us so we could all try your amp.

GREAT video, great explanations. For me, the two are extremely close- but the Vox consistently sounds (much) better- it's more "musical", more beautiful, a more buttery sound. Interesting!

Thank you for the video! Very informative and eye opening. The one thing I dislike about the Kemper is it's Jetsons' looks. Maybe they should enable the thing to give us a holographic projection of something resembling a proper amp. I own a nice tube amp collection (not even close to D&P's, of course) and I became really attached to the things. I'll keep them running as long as I can, because they make me FEEL a certain way. Someone once said when a good tube amp is dialled in just right, the air becomes ELECTRIC. It is a whole sensory experience. It is not just what you hear. I doubt very much digital gadgets will get us that in the near future.

Kemper? It's vintage now! These guys are truly authentic.

You're never too old to Rock Guys!!! How old are ya anyways? My friend is 58 and is still stage diving and taking his pants off on stage! You can't kill Rockn'Roll!

Love my Kemper !

I 'm an amp guy and would never ever use this radio like gear , a JTM45 on top of a 4X12 is a thing of beauty !..Lol I think it's nice that you can put a few beers behind the Kemper , refrigerated would be awesome !! Enjoyed the video, well done guys.

man how did i miss the couple new videos for 6 mos. GREAT to see ya both again. Nice Job Jeremy, Ive always wondered how the Kemper works. Ive seen a show ( Paul Thorn band ) at the Aladdin where the guitarist used a Kemper into PA, and he sounded very good. Maybe in a studio / recording setting the better dynamic range of the real amp/ cab / speaker / mic would be noteworthy to the 5% of the population ( Tonehounds ) that have an informed trained ear - Live the Kemper was impressive. Thanks guys for an excellent show - Mark in Hillsboro

The legends return....

Sounds good but the warmth of the real deal is incomparable !!! 😍😍👍👍🤗🤗🎸🎸

Make sure that you get him to set the clock on your VCR while he's there.

I thought they'd sound the same, but the real amp sounds more percussive. It has more punch.

Had AxeFxII then AxeFxIII for years. Was ok but was always more pleased when plugin on real amp. And one day a had a try at a party as the son of a friend had one. And... it changed my life of guitarist. It’s incredible! No any modeler can achieve this result. Now I’m 100% happy, and Overloud TH-U use similar tech

YES! The boys are back. Modeling is ultimately the future - what a Kemper can do for two grand, one day they'll be able to do for a couple hundred bucks. I still love my tube amps, though.

Gotta say,that Heritage with those pickups with the Vox profiled on the Kemper sound frickin awesome.Thick,sharp.creamy and rawkin.Best tone I have heard through BT headphones.

You guys should profile all of your amps and sell an “old school pack” and take some good money from us youngsters !

Wow, I found a show that moves at my speed, and age group 😉

The way Line 6 works is that they created a digital model for each of the components found in a typical amplifier (resistors, capacitors, valves etc). They then built these components into amp models following the engineering schematics for all of the well known amps. The guitar signal goes through a digital replica of the signal path through each amp giving a perfect replica and response in theory.

Great show! Thanks for posting. I would like to get in line to purchase the profiles once you decide it is a good thing to do$! (;

Old? Absolutely no way guys! I always look forward to hearing what 400 years of proper Rock and Roll guitar playing experience has to say about such new fangled things 😀 Great to see you back. Hope you’re both well. Best wishes for 2020 from Edinburgh, Scotland. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

A really valid point made about "modeling" exposing players to a wide array of amps. I learned I wanted a Plexi-ish amp from using the Plexi plugin I downloaded for my UA Apollo.

For now I'll give you a like and sub. very informative show for 3 years ago. I'm behind the times. lol I know what a Kemper is though. I am 65 and have worked in live entertainment since before I was an adult in some way. Either playing, mixing, lighting, suund, etc.

“It’s evil almost” Hahahahahaha. Too funny.

Once you get beyond the fact that these two stocking capped-dudes look like out-of-work elves, the channel offers up some useful commentary. This Profile segment is very well done. Thanks guys for the insights into how tech can change the music world in a good way...

Love these videos, guys! Hope you and your families are safe and well during these crazy times. Thanks for the informative and entertaining videos! Also, please do sell the profiles of your AC10 SRT's! I'm a Vox fanboy, and I have to play Kempers at church instead of my AC30tb6 because you know, volume. I would love some clean-ish profiles to play with form your sweet Voxes too! I made a few pretty good ones of my Vox, but I would dig some variation on that sound. It's actually been suprisingly hard for me to find exciting profiles. You would think not, but yea...

Can't wait for the 59 comparison!

Oh heck yes! I've been waiting a long time for a new video. Watching now. Cheers

I saw Joe B. once years ago in Apple Valley, MN, outside. He was using the Marshalls then, and had the plexi shields in front of his cabs. But, his guitar was super loud that night, and it actually was hurting our ears. We stuffed TP in our ears, and it didn't really help. That was the loudest concert I had seen, since seeing Deep Purple in the early 70's, who were the loudest band in the World then. Last year I heard a guy use a Kemper live in a club. There was a digital artifact that I didn't like. But, I've watched video's of the new Kemper Stage, and it sounds very good!

Wow! I'm impressed with you guys! Way to go!

I play tube amps over 35+ years now. and the Kemper is the only digital offering that competes with it. Which makes sense, as its a sampler (profiler). Modelling (writing software to sound like a specific amp) until now sounds different and much less desirable to me. And in productions modelling lacks the third dimension. Kemper or tube amp = no such problems. Anyone sceptical coming to my studio A/B my ENGL and its profile couldn't tell the difference. That is good enough for me.

Haven't watched the video yet but it's great to see you guys again!

It’s a Kemper!! Give me a tube amp any day!! The Kemper does not sound like the amps it profiles when you hear it in person. It sounds like an amp trying to sound like the amps it is profiling.

awesome show,first time watching,will watch from now on!...………...cheers from Tuscaloosa,Al.

I'm an old tube guy who adores my Kemper. I want a set of profiles of the AC-10 SRT . please? Please?

Wow Doug and Pat doing a Kemper - far cry from their beloved PAF tests😇

Great show. When Doug asks “Now, am I playin thru the Kemper?” That’s very telling. ... Good thing you were able to capture profiles of your old amps. Because they will die someday.

Jeez! That was an eye opener. Close enough for me! I can see why they are so popular now, but too many buttons for me. I can't even figure out how to use a 1 button looper, how the hell would I ever get along with this thing?

I thought the both the VOX and later GA40 was very slightly louder than the Kemper profiles. That volume difference masks the tonal difference a fair bit. So, it's hard to know how much of the dynamic difference was due to the volume difference. Regardless, the Kemper did pretty well ...................... probably close enough for a recording.

I've had my Kemper power Rack for 2 years. I've spent hundreds on profiles from Mbritt, Tone Junkies and Sinmix. The Kemper sounds great and it's an amazing tool, but it's also sort of like expensive hospital equipment, it's too clinical at times. I just bought a Friedman head and re-built my pedalboard because I missed the feel of "real" amps. The Kemper (for me) shines as a recording tool, but for writing and inspiration I had to go back to "real" amps and pedals. I just wasn't inspired to play when I tried going exclusive Kemper. I do bring my Kemper Power Rack to live gigs though too along with my pedalboard, it's a lot lighter and I don't have to worry as much if it gets stolen compared to my expensive heads and vintage amps.

You've crossed over to the dark side lads, it's over .. lol love you guys and still the best on you tube, and, I had amber spirit of 59's n my Les Paul before you lol great show .. I'm tempted .. peace, from N.Ireland .. cheers Doug & Pat.

Happy new year, gents. Thanks for the episode.

awesome episode fellas and Doug u sound amazing!! cheers!

Great demo guys. Positive note: Better understanding of how the Kemper works now...😀 Negative note: Now I’m gonna have to buy one of these to model all my Marshall Amps🤨 Positive note: No risk of blowing a transformer😀 Negative note: Now I’m gonna have to buy one of these😃

Glad you're back 🤘💚 💨✌

Wow, no new videos in awhile. Between the blindfold video and this Kemper video, the chase for vintage tone is ended? Wow, these videos are like coffin nails. But, no worries, I still enjoy tube amps, vintage Les Paul's, PAF pickups and various PAF replicas. Hope to see you two in future videos.

Love this show and these guys. Rock on !!!

Watch church boys,,, rockers gonna be driving Kempers after this one.... Great video... Please post those Profiles!!

Side note, distortion sense is not something that should be adjusted to change the tone. There's an entire eq section and most importantly the amp section (namely definition, clarity, sag, compression, etc settings) to get the profile closer. Distortion sense is 95% set and forget with 0.0 being right for most situations.

To me the kemper sounds good but the real deal sounds so much better an more alive.

Really Great to have you back !! The Kemper is pretty good, BUT I found 2 that do the same thing better. The Fractal and the Universal Audio Marshall Super Lead , made together with Marshall. Again really great to have you back fellas!

I am sorry, I give the thumbs up before watching because I am just glad there's another episode even if it sucks, which doesn't but I wouldn't know because I am gonna watch it now...

We need a good "link" to the website and options to get the Doug and Pat merchandise and hopefully some cool profiles. The site seems UNSECURE

Happy New Year, guys!

Refining the profile also 'tunes' it to whatever guitar you use so you kinda lock it in to that specific instrument rather than just have it be a general profile of the amp.

You could get a neutral sounding 100 watt solid state amp head, a 2x12 or 4x12 cab loaded with some very efficient quality speakers and just have 3 or 4 different profiled preamp pedals set to your desired tones Marsh, Fend, AC for example ,saves all that faffing about , cheaper too.

That digital sorcery sounded splendid!

The live amps sound a bit more "open" to me, but I suspect the profile can be tweaked in a recording situation to narrow the gap. Impressive technology. I don't find that I would have the need to a variety of profiles when playing out live. One good amp is enough for me.

Okay, men. How about your opinions on the inexpensive Boss Katana Mark Two amp?

Pretty dam similar. I think the kemper is a no brainer for me... I want one

Love the show boys.

Pat's toes stole the show. ;') Thanks for the interesting video.

That’s a great amp ! The Kemper captured it at about 75-80%

Need the profiles guys 😉

Are you guys ok? Just checking

Dougie. 🙂

Amazing......these amps have come a long way..... I had an early line 6......sounded like crap after a while .....

Lots of talk of "clipping" when I think the more appropriate word might be compressing or squashing. Clipping is mainly a solid state and a nasty thing. Basically clipping implies cutting off dead and at its extreme making the wave form square wave. I'm still very much looking forward to the Fender Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb test.

To me all the Kemper profiles sound a bit more dampened compared to the real amp, I can't help it... of course you can tweak that, I guess.

i still use an old red POD into it's atomic 18w tube power amp = totally kicks ass.

Welcome back boys!

Hi I just got the Kemper Stage somehow I lost some effects like Vai wah, chorus presets etc. How can I get them back. Please help. Thanks

Kemper had that one frequency that was in every sound.... just the sound of the unit. Sounded “pingy” and “chambery” to me..... like when a sound man uses excessive subtractive EQ on a monitor mix and then tries to turn it up louder.

So, it's the elves inside of it that make the Kiebler sound like that?

That GA40 profile is killer too. Do you have it on Rig Exchange ?

How about issuing a D & P old skool pack of your amps and all monies to a charity. I think you guys would make a lot of guitarists very happy 🤘

Doug, what kind of picks do you use? And what's your volume and tone knob range you use on these beauties? Thank you Doug and Pat for your offerings.

Wish you two guys would make an appearance because of the virus🙁Hope you are not sick😐

Wow - once again Your show is just the best! I just wonder: How old are You guys? Are You like me, 70 years and still so much in love with Vox amps, and of course old Gibsons and Fenders ..? PS Doug´s guitar playing is mind bending original, although he plays standardy riffs, and yet not. I get goose bumps everytime he starts his slow climb along the fretbord from a Fat E-string to a Howling high E, filled with intricate turns and fast runs DOWNWARDS, which really is unusual. Gosh! What is the inspiration to Your playing - or is it just coming from inside yourself? Anyway - I´m flabbergasted ... Thanx from Sweden!

Great to have you back and hear some real guitar playing please do a demo of the JB Norm Burst Epiphone replica as he is a buddy of yours!!

Yep. That Kemper is a great idea, but once again it’s something that tries to do so many things it doesn’t focus on doing the one thing really well

Great show! Would be great if you made that Vox profile available.

Even through the camera, I can hear a significant difference in the lower mid range of the amp against the profile. The amp has more low mids. I don't think that that is too difficult to fix, and maybe trying the refined function a few times would get the profile closer to the sound of the and. A pretty good profile, anyway! I am not knocking the profiler or the profilers! I own one myself, and I really enjoy it!

Always keep in mind there are many levels of profiles. Some people have created some really great ones, there are lots of crap ones, and tons in between. Tone Junkie has really impressed me, tones and price.

I use the Kemper for many years now. I made experiments over and over, listening to the real amp, and compare it to the Kemper tone in my Rec-studio.When I listen to the comparison in your video, I found a very clear difference between the Kemper (more dull) and the real Amp (quite clear) . With my profiles that I made, from my personal Amps, I could "not" hear such a difference between the real amp and the Kemper. Question: Did you made the "refining" process by the Kemper in your profiles ? Because I find, it's a "very important" step to get an authentic sound profile ! However, ... whats funny to me, I thought in first listening , that the "real amp" sounds a bit sterile, so I thought it was the Kemper. And the Kemper Profile sounds a bit more charming, nicer and rounder tone, that's weird to me ;-) Anyway, ... after some years of research with the Kemper amp, I would say that the "real amp" got still the 5-10 % more fine-grained in sound. Comparable to a "very good quality" camera resolution (Kemper), to a "HIGH END" camera resolution with no pixels (Real amp). That's the reason for me, to use the Kemper for rehearsing, practising, ...absolute fantastic !!! ,...but for a real take, while recording, I'd go to the real amp. Beyond that, struggling with real amps is way much more fun. I like switching on the standby, and see the tubes glowing, wow, that's awesome ( subjective, but for me it is) ;-)) If you like to hear some of my guitar playing/performance, go to :www.studio-dinspel19.de/music/recording-light-shine/

It was really very easy to pick out the kemper, it has a sightly more compressed, processed, less natural tone. That said i was surprised out how close it was. Of course I custom build tube guitar amps, and constantly am playing through a basic crank tube amp with just a guitar plugged in. I love the natural tube crunch, to me there is no substitute . I don't like pedals because no matter how how " transparent" they are supposed to be it always adds a bit of unnatural compression/processed sound that I just don't care for. I could see this being good for live shows but recording should be done with an actual amp. imho