Basic Copper II Carbonate

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Doug's Lab

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In this video, I make basic copper II carbonate from a soluble copper II salt and sodium carbonate. It will serve as a base for making other copper compounds in later videos.

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@NileRed
@NileRed 8 жыл бұрын
Have you tried using this to make pyridine from niacin?
@BackYardScience2000
@BackYardScience2000 5 жыл бұрын
@NileRed , I am going to try to do that once I get my new lab up and going. We just moved and the lab is under construction, but it will be done soon.
@cjprestidge1773
@cjprestidge1773 4 ай бұрын
Miss your work, Doug. Perfect intricate vocabulary and speed of thought. High tier. Excellent.
@zakzennii8905
@zakzennii8905 8 жыл бұрын
I made Copper(II) carbonate several years ago. I liked the color so much I took a small sample to a paint store to find a match and painted my bathroom that color. I also mixed some with white glue to make a crude paint and used it in a craft project. I had quite an adventure exploring other copper(II) salts I could make with the carbonate, such as the acetate (which makes stunningly beautiful dark green crystals), the chloride (which is soluble in isopropanol, and colors the flame green), the borate (which makes pale blue flaky crystals), the acetylsalicylate (which is a very deep blue), the stearate (which is an intense deep green, I used it to dye some candle wax, as it is quite soluble in paraffin), and even copper fluorescein (which fluoresces like the sodium salt, and is similarly soluble in water). I also tried to make copper phosphate (to see if I could make synthetic malachite) That didn't work as well.
@nivelbraack
@nivelbraack 4 жыл бұрын
Omg Dude, i wanted years ago to make candle that burn with green flame and experimented with copper sulfate, but the problem was the insolubility, so that it sank when the wax melted and didnt effect the flame anymore. always thought how i could make it work. and now i read about the stearate and the solubility in paraffin. you cant imagine how i feel right now. hope you will read it. i thank you so much for that comment. i will try it and hope it will finally work ^^
@magnuswootton6181
@magnuswootton6181 2 жыл бұрын
ive seen some really biting copper carb paintings, it goes good for doing the statue of liberty, so malachite is a phosphate? i thought it was this very thing we are making here, with the greeny blue colour. im looking to make synthetic malachite too, but i wonder what im making isnt malachite its actually just agglomerated copper hydra-carbonate, this stuff.
@monarchatto6095
@monarchatto6095 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnuswootton6181 Malachite is basic copper carbonate, it’s not copper phosphate, Pseudomalachite is.
@EddieTheH
@EddieTheH Жыл бұрын
​@@nivelbraack Treat the wick with the copper salt then build up the wax over it. That's how I made strontium candles, they worked very well.
@nivelbraack
@nivelbraack Жыл бұрын
@@EddieTheH thanks i will give it a try ;)
@gabramlet
@gabramlet 8 жыл бұрын
As always, well done. Your videos are always easy to follow and enjoyable to watch. Keep them coming.
@Barnekkid
@Barnekkid 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not a chemist and I've never studied the subject but I really enjoy your vids. Everything is so clearly explained and logical, and the lab work is the best part. Good job, Doug.
@jaybennett5639
@jaybennett5639 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained, love it
@verdatum
@verdatum 8 жыл бұрын
Water aspirator pump? Aw, man, you know you want a proper rotary vane pump; they are so much fun (and comparatively quiet)! Great vid.
@chemistryscuriosities
@chemistryscuriosities 5 жыл бұрын
Where did ya go again Doug? I know life takes precedence over KZfaq. Just wondering. Hope all is well. Great video as usual.
@SciDOCMBC
@SciDOCMBC 4 жыл бұрын
although I'm interested in the reaction itself, it's just great for me to watch your videos, keep it up and thx
@dominickjohn7762
@dominickjohn7762 6 жыл бұрын
Showing some love.
@chadgdry3938
@chadgdry3938 8 жыл бұрын
wow, this may seem a bit silly, but I like that you walked us through the clean-up. Seems like this is a very missed step, but I do appreciate it.
@BackYardScience2000
@BackYardScience2000 5 жыл бұрын
Right? Nobody shows the cleanup steps, which can be aggravating if you are unsure how to proceed. I love this channel for this.
@arulexport2701
@arulexport2701 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmmm Very much interesting And very much useful for business purpose also Thanking you
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 7 жыл бұрын
It looks delicious.
@thenewbgamer6416
@thenewbgamer6416 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video and reaction.
@MrCrazyChemist
@MrCrazyChemist 8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps if you put a piece of garden hose on the aspirator it will be less noisey. Thanks for all the great videos btw
@tracybowling97
@tracybowling97 3 жыл бұрын
Wish u were still around!!
@trilokyamangalam
@trilokyamangalam 6 жыл бұрын
Learnt a lot about copper carbonate
@williamackerson_chemist
@williamackerson_chemist 6 жыл бұрын
It isn't copper carbonate. It is copper ii hydroxide carbonate. So......
@plantmom9698
@plantmom9698 4 жыл бұрын
Go Dragons! great Video
@drysori
@drysori 8 жыл бұрын
Arm and Hammer washing soda is 85% Na2CO3 and 15% water, (very pure) and is available at Walmart
@TheBookDoctor
@TheBookDoctor 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video in which you make synthetic malachite and azurite.
@ashdevos5705
@ashdevos5705 8 жыл бұрын
id like to see him make copper from malachite
@hwgden
@hwgden 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@CollegeChemistry
@CollegeChemistry 7 жыл бұрын
I tried, and tried. I cant seem to dissolve Copper Carbonate to crystalize it out. If you can find one, I will make synthetic malachite.
6 жыл бұрын
you know what I would love? a synthesis video that doesn't require you to already have stuff you can't make by yourself, like sulfuric and hydrochloric acid.
@rixdobbs3172
@rixdobbs3172 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the cleanup of the fritted glass filter. I have one that's presently unusable - and i have muriatic acid. Maybe I can fix it. thanks Doug.
@SciDOCMBC
@SciDOCMBC 3 жыл бұрын
to get the sodium carbonate solution particle-free, you have to put a thin layer of Celite on the bottom of the glass frit, this even enables you to filter out fine particles such as lithium chloride or others
@aboagabism2065
@aboagabism2065 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much .... from NileRed channel
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 6 жыл бұрын
This is quite nostalgic for me... Copper Sulphate + Calcium Carbonate = Copper Carbonate takes me back to my childhood... this was my introduction to precipitates. When you next want to do a video about apparatus, maybe you could talk about vacuum filtration and frits. I'd love to power-up from paper filtration but don't really know what's going on.
@EddieTheH
@EddieTheH Жыл бұрын
I often use paper funnels in my glass frit unless it's something that the paper won't tolerate. Cleaning glass frits is a chore, especially here in the UK where we aren't allowed strong piranha solutions.
@somanrajable
@somanrajable 7 жыл бұрын
very helpful video what is the percentage of copper in the final product
@UniverseCafe
@UniverseCafe 8 жыл бұрын
That made quite a bit!
@AlbertCheng69
@AlbertCheng69 Жыл бұрын
now I want advanced copper carbonate
@mitchwillson9050
@mitchwillson9050 6 жыл бұрын
Do you run your buchner funnel vacume with your faucet? I'm setting up a safe and simple lab and don't want to use a hand pump for my funnel. Any input would be appreciated.
@HowToGrowTaller3
@HowToGrowTaller3 5 жыл бұрын
Is this the same thing we get when we do electrolysis by using two copper rods, i end up with the same kind of green stuff is this chemically the same compound?
@Chrisbuildsstuff247
@Chrisbuildsstuff247 7 жыл бұрын
Where do you recommend a new chemist start?
@grantstewart5453
@grantstewart5453 8 жыл бұрын
How do you calculate how much sodium carbonate to use for a given amount of sulfate(like magnesium, copper, iron)?
@thrashlink
@thrashlink 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome, i try to do something like that but i use iron. Please do it with iron
@skarsilverheart3238
@skarsilverheart3238 8 жыл бұрын
I have made this same solution, and noticed an interesting reaction when Hydrogen peroxide is added. The solution turns a very ugly brown color. However, if left alone, it will eventually go back to being that light blue. What is going on in this case?
@bharatindia2471
@bharatindia2471 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@georgegrigonis1307
@georgegrigonis1307 7 жыл бұрын
How do you hydrate this make it a azurite blue color for a paint pigment
@strife3084
@strife3084 7 жыл бұрын
hey Doug, how are you liking those "lab zap" branded beakers?
@Glattuh
@Glattuh 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug. I got an answer for you. How many milibars can you get with that vacuum system? NOOH
@markcesare4309
@markcesare4309 8 жыл бұрын
Several other videos show this reaction but call the product simply Copper Carbonate (CuCO3). Are the OH lost by drying ???
@chemicalmaster3267
@chemicalmaster3267 8 жыл бұрын
I think that your sodium carbonate solution is cloudy because you are probably using "hard" water, which is causing some calcium carbonate to precipitate out. Isn´t your tap water hard water?
@Berghiker
@Berghiker 2 жыл бұрын
What's basic about the copper II carbonate?
@alllove1754
@alllove1754 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't as noisy as you think (around 4:15-20) when u turned on the vacuum pump
@Berghiker
@Berghiker 2 жыл бұрын
Do you also get acidic copper II carbonate?
@Serotonindude
@Serotonindude 8 жыл бұрын
while i was waiting for my copper(II)-cabonate to dry, i thought: let's see if doug got a new video... yes he got... oh, he's making copper(II)-carbonate :D btw. i got troubles filtering the pasty carbonate... which porosity does your fritt have doug?
@bpark10001
@bpark10001 Ай бұрын
Why not use NaOH instead of NaCO3? You get copper hydroxide, which serves the purpose of making "instant copper salts", but does not liberate CO2.
@user-bt2xn2ge8s
@user-bt2xn2ge8s Ай бұрын
Can I use carbonated water instead Na2CO3?
@Coticosimo
@Coticosimo 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, is that a water-aspirator pump?
@nakotorni5231
@nakotorni5231 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, You are using 0.906 moles of Na2CO3. Should You also use 0.906 moles = 226 grams of CuSO4-5H2O not 256 grams ? Or have You some kind of safe margin to reaction?
@javierarnaizgarcia
@javierarnaizgarcia 3 жыл бұрын
I see in the bottle where you pick up the product the formula Cu(OH)2Cl2...
@bahadrbayk2685
@bahadrbayk2685 3 жыл бұрын
what can i do if I dont have vacuum filter
@Palmit_
@Palmit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me. We are left with Gravity Filtration (a coffee filter) and that will take DAYYYS.. I thought about buying a cheap vacuum pump and chamber.. but then.. need glassware filter (with the correct size to fit erlenmyer flask...), tubes, stuff get's expensive. and then... the clean up of all the stuff after each experiment. chemistry is a very interesting, but darn expensive.. and frustrating, and time consuming, and expensive for buying chemicals. IF you can get them delivered - many suppliers WONT sell to home addresses.. and if you've an corporate address, they won't sell small quantities.. Chemistry is a passion.
@kristianprokupek6606
@kristianprokupek6606 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I am wondering if there is possibility to sort Nickel and Copper carbonates from each other... ?
@michaelswain8414
@michaelswain8414 3 жыл бұрын
Just a guess, but the Nickel carbonate might be magnetic? If not, a strong neodymium magnet still might be able to pull it around when suspended in some water. Might take some work and be a little bit of a headache but I'd be interested to try this myself. You'd be surprised what a 1" cube neodymium magnet can do even with traditionally non-ferromagnetic compounds. Many are still paramagnetic and will be attracted ever-so-slightly and can be teased apart using this property when suspended in a carrier fluid. Just make sure it isn't anything acidic lol. Will react and ruin both compounds for you.
@kristianprokupek6606
@kristianprokupek6606 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelswain8414 I don't know If I completely understand. Nd-magnet can be solution. But, usually is nickel coated. I should consider some plastic coating or thin plastic insulation from acidic solutions
@verquanrichardson572
@verquanrichardson572 3 жыл бұрын
How to make liquid nitrogen ?
@rittenbrake1613
@rittenbrake1613 6 жыл бұрын
how to filter Na2SO4 in the product as u stated in the equation?
@bobweiss8682
@bobweiss8682 4 жыл бұрын
It was dissolved in the water that got vacuum filtered off....
@mercury6800
@mercury6800 6 жыл бұрын
Is the basic in basic copper carbonate referring to ph and if so can you get acidic copper carbonate
@noname_atall
@noname_atall 5 жыл бұрын
it is and it isn't. the name come from the hydroxide ions in the cristal structure, not the ph. but this compound is an insoluble base like calcium carbonate, or magnesium hydroxide, or a mixture of the two. acidic copper carbonates would be the same as copper bicarbonate. and it doesn't form at atmospheric pressures and i don't know if it would form (either as a solid or as a solute) in pressurised carbons dioxide chambers.
@mistertheguy3073
@mistertheguy3073 7 жыл бұрын
the leftover copper ions could actually be quite harmfull to sealife right?
@damanifesto
@damanifesto 6 жыл бұрын
Versus millions of boats with copper based bottom paint?
@jacobthompson1682
@jacobthompson1682 Жыл бұрын
I know you apologized for the vacuum but it sounded like water running what how does all that work? I've heard of using falling mercury to pull a vacuum, is this a similar apparatus?
@hantrio4327
@hantrio4327 9 ай бұрын
He uses a water aspirator pump
@Erik-yw9kj
@Erik-yw9kj 8 жыл бұрын
I assume you're on city sewer? If so, how safe is it to dispose of 'flushable' chemicals like this when you have a septic tank? If it's not safe at all, how would I dispose of them?
@theLuigiFan0007Productions
@theLuigiFan0007Productions 8 жыл бұрын
+Erik In a worst case scenario, you're draining common pool chemicals and a chemical very similar to baking soda. Copper Sulfate is used in agriculture to make soil less acidic and as a fungicide and pesticide. Although it can be mildly to moderately toxic in pure form, it is mainly diluted. Sodium carbonate (aka washing soda) is used in food products like ramen noodles and sherbet powder, is a important part of glass production, is used in pools to reduce the corrosiveness of chlorine, and put in drinking water as water softener. Sodium carbonate can be irritating and harmful to skin, in the same way lye is, but not nearly as bad. For the most part, I'd say it's perfectly safe to dump it, even if you're not in the city. However, ask someone who knows a bit more about the subject to be sure. To get washing soda, look for "Arm and Hammer Washing Soda", it's quite pure. The Copper Sulfate is found as pH increaser, usually by name in the pool section, check the ingredients to be sure.
@Erik-yw9kj
@Erik-yw9kj 8 жыл бұрын
theLuigiFan0007 I don't mean just this particular experiment - I mean in general.
@theLuigiFan0007Productions
@theLuigiFan0007Productions 8 жыл бұрын
Erik Ah, I see. Well, some of the chemicals and byproducts can be neutralized and dumped out. Others can be made inert enough to mix together store in containers. You can later take that to somewhere that accepts stuff like old cleaning chemicals, paint thinners, medications, paint, etc. We have something in our area that accepts these kind of wastes and they take pretty much any chemicals. It'd likely be in the nearest town. You'd have to research how to dispose of each thing individually.
@maciejdelekta6167
@maciejdelekta6167 8 жыл бұрын
what about CuSO4 and NaHCO3? What will be produced?
@Johnpao215
@Johnpao215 8 жыл бұрын
+Maciej Delekta Same products. I did this using that route.
@cowboychemist7218
@cowboychemist7218 8 жыл бұрын
Your videos are an inspiration, where did you acquire those dry reagent jars? Also, have you a video on your vacuum system, I just Jerry-rigged an old compressor and I'm worried fumes may not be good on the internals =p
@ScienceWithJames
@ScienceWithJames 6 жыл бұрын
Cowboy Chemist Doug probably didn't get them here, but you can get all sorts of equipment on homesciencetools.com/chemistry. This includes amber bottles, chemical-resistant plastic bottles, plastic and glass jars, glassware, condensers spatulas, etc.
@astroglide420
@astroglide420 8 жыл бұрын
So that is a reusable filter? What is it made out of? Porcelain?
@MrFidelmios
@MrFidelmios 8 жыл бұрын
the filter is made of Fritted glass, it is stuck in the funnel so you can't exchange them. They are used in place of other funnels, and you can have varied pore size to help with different reactions.
@sampadbusinesstime8321
@sampadbusinesstime8321 7 жыл бұрын
How to copper Attract by rice grain Or pulling rice a copper which chemical adding to copper
@adnanmoe3923
@adnanmoe3923 6 жыл бұрын
is copper 2 carbonate soluble in water?
@williamackerson_chemist
@williamackerson_chemist 6 жыл бұрын
No. Not at all. And by copper carbonate, I think you mean copper ii hydroxide carbonate. Copper carbonate can only be produced by heating the copper ii hydroxide carbonate in an atmosphere of CO2 @ 500*C.
@materioverda1655
@materioverda1655 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I think your stoichiometry is wrong... 2 Cu atoms and the product has only 1 copper? However, the video is overall good.
@creative8352
@creative8352 6 жыл бұрын
Can we make copper carbonate by adding calcium carbonate in copper nitrate solution ?
@noname_atall
@noname_atall 5 жыл бұрын
no, calcium carbonate is insoluble, so it wont react. if it is more insoluble than copper carbonate, it will never happen in measurable amounts. if it is less insoluble, it will only occur at elevated temperatures and pressures and in geological timescales.
@Berghiker
@Berghiker 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make potassium carbonate from sodium carbonate and a potassium salt?
@Berghiker
@Berghiker 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you can! Then you can make yellow powder from it.
@jamie91995
@jamie91995 8 жыл бұрын
Atleast this was better than mine...
@lordchickenhawk
@lordchickenhawk 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not quite able to figure out what the difference between "basic" copper carbonate/copper carbonate or "basic" magnesium carbonate/magnesium carbonate. Are basic copper carbonate and basic magnesium carbonate made "basic" by the same underlying principle? How can they be converted into their non basic form? I tried to google this the other day and got lots of highly technical papers refering to basic magnesium carbonate but no explanation as to what it actually is or why it forms instead of straight magnesium carbonate.
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 8 жыл бұрын
+lordchickenhawk Basic here just means anhydrous. When it is not hydrated, it is basic.
@lordchickenhawk
@lordchickenhawk 8 жыл бұрын
Richard Smith So it has nothing to do with it's pH?
@ClownWhisper
@ClownWhisper 8 жыл бұрын
heat it to its oxide state, even better for storing
@williamackerson_chemist
@williamackerson_chemist 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that the compund's formula was Cu2(OH)2CO3 • H2O, or CuCO3 • Cu(OH)2 • H2O.
@RoflCraft96
@RoflCraft96 6 жыл бұрын
it is
@williamackerson_chemist
@williamackerson_chemist 6 жыл бұрын
I actually ran this reaction under controlled conditions and verified this right after. I just used potential yields based on the suspected formulas.
@solarpowered3364
@solarpowered3364 5 жыл бұрын
Got the microwave for 5.99 nice!
@spacecomma4678
@spacecomma4678 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t find one for less than $12.99 😢
@evilservo
@evilservo 2 жыл бұрын
The Theoretical yield should be above 200 grams
@jheadley635
@jheadley635 Жыл бұрын
The formula is actually Cu2(OH)2CO3, you're missing a Cu.
@deepikanarayan6515
@deepikanarayan6515 4 жыл бұрын
I am a 7yo and I did this
@magnuswootton6181
@magnuswootton6181 2 жыл бұрын
I guess magnesium hydra-carbonate comes out similar, but the devil is in the specificity, when it comes to this crazy business.
@ClownWhisper
@ClownWhisper 8 жыл бұрын
make a dehydrator
@alimicrosofter5577
@alimicrosofter5577 8 жыл бұрын
copper acetate is good for do this ?
@somefool6409
@somefool6409 8 жыл бұрын
Definitely worked for me
@alimicrosofter5577
@alimicrosofter5577 8 жыл бұрын
ok i will try ... thanks
@chbrr4638
@chbrr4638 8 жыл бұрын
Formula is wrong, should be Cu2(OH)2CO3
@mistertheguy3073
@mistertheguy3073 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't it Cu2(OH)2CO3?
@danvandertorre9280
@danvandertorre9280 6 жыл бұрын
you were saying its very useful for what ?
@jdm_jord0391
@jdm_jord0391 6 жыл бұрын
dan van der torre it’s used in most basic reactions you can even turn it into thermite
@Zen_Ft5e
@Zen_Ft5e Жыл бұрын
Your equation doesn't balance. Where has the second Cu gone?
@winstonedwards2014
@winstonedwards2014 6 жыл бұрын
Sit tight, while I go do that. (Keep in mind, supposed to be a scientist.) *Puts solution to $6 microwave from Goodwill.* GG Doug.
@jermainerace4156
@jermainerace4156 5 жыл бұрын
Just because someone is a scientist doesn't mean they have a big budget. There's nothing inherently "unscientific" about a heat source.
@chromecrescent
@chromecrescent 8 жыл бұрын
Wrong formula There are two Cu(II) atoms
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