Dovetails By Hand - Invisible Gap Repair

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3 жыл бұрын

Dovetails by Hand - Invisible Gap Repair. Rob Cosman, the master of cutting dovetails by hand, shows you how to make invisible repairs to dovetail mistakes. Forget gap fillers and other dovetail repairs, Rob shows you how he does INVISIBLE repairs to his dovetails by hand. A MUST SEE ---------
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@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
How to handcut Through Dovetails: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e56DpatnrciolIU.html How to handcut Half-Blind Dovetails: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qd5gp8Zeuq22iI0.html
@Mr_Rick
@Mr_Rick 3 жыл бұрын
I had a bad dovetail gap that I just tried to fix by what you shared here. It came out fantastic. I really appreciate learning something of real substance. Thanks for sharing all your expertise Rob! Cheers!
@Mr_Rick
@Mr_Rick 3 жыл бұрын
Had me on pins and needles. Whew! Good on ya!
@johnnydingo8680
@johnnydingo8680 3 жыл бұрын
My kind of video, fixing the mistakes. I always make some :)
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@laurencelance586
@laurencelance586 2 жыл бұрын
I got into trouble on the bench dovetails. Rob's excellent advice made the repair all but invisable. You have to know what to look for to find it!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
Laurence you dont make mistakes!!
@honestmentoring
@honestmentoring 3 жыл бұрын
I admire such patience! This has been a joy!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thnaks for watching
@barryomahony4983
@barryomahony4983 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. It's much more helpful when the whole process is shown, rather than just saying "cut a thin wedge and pound it in". Almost all of us make mistakes on dovetail joints. Thanks.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting a while to shoot this one. Really want to post it
@jareddietrich2345
@jareddietrich2345 3 жыл бұрын
Super job, love the attention to detail!
@ottomaselli7762
@ottomaselli7762 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Great detail work. !!! Thanks for the video
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@JamesVanderVeen
@JamesVanderVeen 3 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely have to try this technique. Thanks!
@kevinklaas776
@kevinklaas776 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Amazing repair!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johntailing5283
@johntailing5283 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Shooting nothing more than a slither- it’s another level ! ! !
@davidmatke248
@davidmatke248 3 жыл бұрын
A new video! This is going to be the highlight of my day!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy!
@paulkarch3318
@paulkarch3318 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. He's the master of the woodshop.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dirtyframer
@dirtyframer 3 жыл бұрын
Always great info, thanks for helping us all improve!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@robinmyman
@robinmyman 3 жыл бұрын
Much better than expected...in fact...perfect.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you have to make a mistake it is good to know you can prevent anyone else from finding out. Unless you do a youtube about it and tell the world!
@riskmandel1
@riskmandel1 3 жыл бұрын
this is so helpful. Thank you!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@user-cz5oy6os3z
@user-cz5oy6os3z 3 жыл бұрын
Good lesson, Bob!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@mgoohgoo7664
@mgoohgoo7664 3 жыл бұрын
Man the pro spline. Great ideas. Thanks for this trick.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@mikaelfischer8429
@mikaelfischer8429 3 жыл бұрын
Been hoping you would do another video and here it is. Thank you sir for doing this particular one.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You bet. Thnaks for watching
@Brough_builds
@Brough_builds 3 жыл бұрын
Love these vids and they always seem to co.e when I need them Thanks Rob 👍👍👌👌
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thats because we are clairvoyant
@larrychristensen5917
@larrychristensen5917 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting the video. I could put this information to good use.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@BrianThorstad
@BrianThorstad 3 жыл бұрын
Next level craftsman repair
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what we should have titled it
@kevinparker4160
@kevinparker4160 3 жыл бұрын
Best craftsman and teacher on the internet. Love these videos.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Keep watching and I will keep filming
@1deerndingo
@1deerndingo 3 жыл бұрын
Another value packed video that contains information that has taken a lifetime to collect.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ckutzli
@ckutzli 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent repair, your truly an amazing woodworker. I learn something each video. Thank you Rob
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@gsawoodworking969
@gsawoodworking969 3 жыл бұрын
Great repair thank you
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@wolfman75
@wolfman75 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir!!! Great Info!!! Flawless Repair!!! Well Done!!!🤔👍😎😃
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent technique~! Now, if I can learn to pull that off on my mistakes. Very good demo~! Thanks Rob~!!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@Exodus5K
@Exodus5K 3 жыл бұрын
Re-cutting a kerf so that gap is square! Cutting a miter on the wedges so you can get end grain on both sides! Those 2 tips alone were so helpful. Thank you Rob.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@Mr_Rick
@Mr_Rick 2 жыл бұрын
Rob....I just used your technique to fix one gap on 4 dovetails out of 16 for a box I made. I do alot of dovetails and usually pretty good but like you say once in a while this happens. I have to tell ya.... Your technique worked like a charm! Thank you sir for sharing. The gaps are gone. Cheers!!
@MrKemper45
@MrKemper45 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob. I am improving my dovetailing skills using your "new" method. But try as I might I always end up with a few that aren't quite perfect. This will come in handy until I get there. The idea of filling the gaps from each direction on the end grain had not occurred to me on my previous repairs. Another vote for showing the repair to the gap at the baseline.
@thewoodlesworkshop.157
@thewoodlesworkshop.157 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! A very good error correction method. Thank you very much Rob. And take care of yourself there. :)
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Always
@williamshaffer2562
@williamshaffer2562 3 жыл бұрын
Professor Cos another fine tip. Enjoy your attention to detail Sir. This video was very helpful to my "old man" eyes thank you. Semper Fi
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@ttrinneer
@ttrinneer 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Never thought of using 2 pieces to match both sides
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Best way to go for a perfect repair
@shanejohnson800
@shanejohnson800 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing dovetails now for 2 years and always learn something new from rob!! Oh and I want a cosman saw lol
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Now is the best time of year to buy one, we have some great Christmas sales going on
@bryandowdey1779
@bryandowdey1779 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your helpful and professional woodworking tips and tricks and am learning a lot. Thanks Rob!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
What video should we do next?
@bryandowdey1779
@bryandowdey1779 3 жыл бұрын
RobCosman.com I have issues with both chipping of edge cuts and burn when using my table saw despite having a new sharp blade. A video with tips to avoid wood burn and chipping would be very helpful.
@beerymr
@beerymr 3 жыл бұрын
Your patience is incredible. I will benefit greatly from your methods on fixing mistakes. We know they’re going to happen. Now, if I can develop your patience... Thanks, Rob. I would appreciate seeing your methods for fixing the other problems with that joint.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thats for another video
@jimfromri
@jimfromri 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, nerve wracking to make the gap bigger in order to fix it. But it made the final repair nearly invisible. Thanks for the lesson. Great video.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Give it a try
@kenstewart687
@kenstewart687 3 жыл бұрын
Also very good filming. My compliments to the cameraman. I was impressed by the wood working technique of the master and that resolution on the shot of the chisel blade was amazing. Great job, keep up the good work.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Thats my son Jake on the camera
@felipehuibonhoa7338
@felipehuibonhoa7338 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's all I can say. Wow!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@daniellangdon5514
@daniellangdon5514 3 жыл бұрын
Great timing. Making a box for my mom out of some wood from my late grandmas house and I cut on the wrong side of the line last night. Will be using this to fix it
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it turns out. Send me a picture
@bobg8997
@bobg8997 3 жыл бұрын
Rob - I may have missed this, but are you going to demo. fixes for the other numbered flaws? I'm particularly interested in the horizontal gaps where the tails meet the adjoining board.
@adamnott3062
@adamnott3062 3 жыл бұрын
Also interested in seeing how to repair a gap into the baseline!
@davegodson3039
@davegodson3039 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamnott3062 me too!
@joehirschegger7723
@joehirschegger7723 3 жыл бұрын
I concur! Would love to see that repair. I make this mistake a lot due to gorilla chisling
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
This video got a bit long so we stopped where we were. Will do another one on the baseline gap if this video does well
@timblaney4664
@timblaney4664 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking A video on fixing the one labeled #2 would be really helpful.
@tykerthereto9041
@tykerthereto9041 3 жыл бұрын
You make it look easy Rob. Thanks. I too can do dovetails but not straight off the saw. I'm a framer so not much time left after work to practice. Thanks for your being.😀
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
just do good practice and you will get it
@mgoohgoo7664
@mgoohgoo7664 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking decently
@Gotmovezlikejagga
@Gotmovezlikejagga 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rob, learned so much from this, the information will be put to good use. We appreciate real life practical videos.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
What video should i do next?
@ckutzli
@ckutzli 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking what about small repairs with glue and sawdust or whatever trick you use to cover small fixes
@Gotmovezlikejagga
@Gotmovezlikejagga 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I've noticed you notch the horizontal board when inserting it into a dado, using a stopped dado. I believe you do this to ensure a crisp intersection. This avoids visible marking knife lines, saw cut marks of chipped edges from the router plane. Perhaps you could demo your process. I believe it is an improvement over running the dado to the end of the board, but it still requires precise layout, cuts and care.
@gav2759
@gav2759 3 жыл бұрын
Not that I ever make mistakes, but if I did this is how I'd fix them. By this time I should have ceased to be surprised by the number of KZfaq "experts" advocating the old "rubbing in sawdust and glue" hack. Moreover, they demonstrate it as a matter of course and not just for the odd slip of the saw.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of folks who have very little real experience or training out there on YuoTube. There are also some great guys. Problem is trying to sort them all out
@Cactustone
@Cactustone 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding lesson. Thank you. It's nice to see you are working with your standard saw (resin handle). For those of us that take your advice seriously (perhaps to a fault), it can sometimes be tempting to buy the highest-end option available, especially since you advocate "buying your tools once." Great advice, but sometime dangerous, too. :)
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I think the good advice ourweighs the danger
@dukeengine1339
@dukeengine1339 3 жыл бұрын
This will be useful, even if it shouldn't if I do things right as you teach us... Lol! Thanks Rob!
@norm_olsen
@norm_olsen 3 жыл бұрын
The thing I walk away learning from this video is that you are capable of making mistakes like the rest of us 😉 In all seriousness though, I've seen videos of people mixing sawdust with glue and rubbing it in the gaps, but seeing you deliberating widening the gap in question with a saw and making and inserting a miniature shims simply works! Awesome video, Rob!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thnaks for watching and commenting Norman
@chrisjcichocki
@chrisjcichocki 3 жыл бұрын
My initial thought was to make a "shelf" in the replacement wood by sawing down into the end grain, then meet that point with a cut across from the side to make an "L". Then pare a slice of wood off with a chisel. But you pull off cutting .025" wedges like it's a piece of cake! Then you plane the chips down and are still able to walk away with the tips of your fingers in tact! :) Beautiful result, Rob. Even Jake's fine camera work can't find the repair.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks , with good hand tools its pretty easy
@androidgameplays4every13
@androidgameplays4every13 3 жыл бұрын
Gaps in dovetails are unavoidable for me and for this reason this is one the most useful videos, thank you very much! unfortunately gap #2 is also extremely familiar .
@saundersd1962
@saundersd1962 3 жыл бұрын
You can also use veneer strips in the same way to pack a bad joint so it’s invisible. Thanks for a very clear and excellent video lesson on dovetail repair
@gbwildlifeuk8269
@gbwildlifeuk8269 3 жыл бұрын
Only if you've got veneer strips! But you'd certainly have off cuts of the wood you used.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Thats essentially what you are making - a piece of veneer...but out of the same wood so it blends
@chrisc4527
@chrisc4527 3 жыл бұрын
PERFECT TIMING!!! Beginner making my third box, a Christmas gift, all hand planed from rough sawn. Late last night I plunge routed a groove on the wrong face of one pin board 😱😖. Only fix I can see is flipping the tail board and mismatching pins and tails, which will open all sorts of gaps. Thank you for putting all this out there.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Send us some pics of your boxes and we will post them to our site
@chrisc4527
@chrisc4527 3 жыл бұрын
😳 thank you, but for full disclosure I have not yet figured out assembling your wood hinge yet and am cheating and using brass hinges on these first boxes. Wood hinges are scheduled for box number six or seven 😄.
@poolbuilder27
@poolbuilder27 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob. This has been very helpful. On a side note, I recently saw a post on Reddit that had interesting joinery. Its an old Turkish built cabin. The corners have something called a Swallow-Tail joint. Wish I could post a pic. Any chance at making a video to show how to make it? At first I thought they were slid together like a dovetail, but upon looking closer at the pic you can just barely see they are stacked. They look like fancy tenons. But I have no clue how to cut the tails. Would love if you could help.
@juancamore05
@juancamore05 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob for a great video!! My suggestion for another video like this one would be how to fix a wooden hinge box if the hinge breaks.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Did that happen to you?
@juancamore05
@juancamore05 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I’m afraid it did. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I miscalculated how close the pivot of the hinge was to the back face. When I planed the dowel to be flush with the back and opened the lid after glue up, the walls of the dowel became too thin so they broke and the pins popped out. What kills me is that the dovetails on this box we pretty close to be spot on! I hope I can save this box! 😅
@setdown2
@setdown2 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job as always...One question...that bench vise you were using,does it sometimes get in the way as you have to reach over it to get to your work...is it a inconvenience at times ??? Stay safe...
@stevebosun7410
@stevebosun7410 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, what happens when you apply finish? Does it highlight the repairs?
@chinthakawickramasinghe4879
@chinthakawickramasinghe4879 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me your sawing and chiseling lessons, if practiced sawing more often wouldn’t we have such difficulty in filling gap, would we? , Anyway I admire your patience and tips and tricks in closing gaps which are inevitable in reaching towards expected perfection. Thanks in millions
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
You are a woodworking philosopher!!!!
@chinthakawickramasinghe4879
@chinthakawickramasinghe4879 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks,You are the sole mentor of what I am in dovetails. Expect to see more
@jeffdutton1910
@jeffdutton1910 3 жыл бұрын
As we are all human, we are all apt to err. The difference between a master of his craft (whatever it may be) and everyone else, is the ability to accommodate an error in a way that is invisible to the observer.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@alecreid9983
@alecreid9983 3 жыл бұрын
Working on an hourly rate of $100 that makes that job worth at least another $50, that will teach you not to make many mistakes if nothing does but you can't let a job go out like that anyway, well demonstrared,
@colinwinterburn6136
@colinwinterburn6136 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Rob, did your wheel wrights gauge come with a flat side or did you do it yourself. Mine rolled off the table but I was lucky it hit my broken toe so the tool was fine. Colin Winterburn
@bmedicky
@bmedicky 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Is it possible the shims are a bit dark from wetting by the glue, and that they'll lighten up after the moisture in the glue evaporates?
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@storylineamerica4108
@storylineamerica4108 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, did you ever get a chance to try the Narex Richter chisels?
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Coming up, no spoilers though!
@storylineamerica4108
@storylineamerica4108 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Do you have a date set?
@joehirschegger7723
@joehirschegger7723 3 жыл бұрын
Seen some great reviews of these chisels...would love to hear Rob's take on them
@sisyphushappyband
@sisyphushappyband 3 жыл бұрын
When he was moving toward the shooting board with that teenie little wedge, I said, "That's crazy!" Then Rob said, "This is crazy, but I'm going to shoot this." Great video, Rob!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
That was crazy
@Littlefoot377
@Littlefoot377 3 жыл бұрын
That brain chip is working really good
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
I think so
@christianestrada5362
@christianestrada5362 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a point when you decide it would be better to just redo the joint?
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes...If its not worth the effort of repair, if I was just at the start verses the end of a project, lots of considerations
@dorsetdumpling5387
@dorsetdumpling5387 3 ай бұрын
Aw heck! - all I wanted to know was the best way to mix glue and sawdust……
@tombaker3794
@tombaker3794 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great tutorial, but it occurs to me that ( in my nonprofessional opinion ) the procedures called for with the first fix herein require a level of craftsmanship and detail work two steps above those necessary for the cutting of the dovetails. If I tried to recut the side of a tail, that I couldn't cut straight the first time around, I'm going to end up with the Mariana Trench on the side of my project. For me, the best fix would be to cut a small end grain wedge to pound into the original error, and rely on the wood to compress if needed.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Just a little sawing practice is all you need. Getting more confident with you saw gives you super powers
@johnhannon
@johnhannon 3 жыл бұрын
When I have dovetail gaps, it always seems to be the half dovetails on the ends for some reason.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a baseline issue
@johnhannon
@johnhannon 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thanks Rob, I have to practice more.
@mgoohgoo7664
@mgoohgoo7664 3 жыл бұрын
How sharp your dam plane that your handplanes for trimming peace this thin.
@barryomahony4983
@barryomahony4983 3 жыл бұрын
He's got plenty of other videos on that. :) I imagine he finished it on a 16,000 grit Shapton stone
@mgoohgoo7664
@mgoohgoo7664 3 жыл бұрын
@@barryomahony4983 Now this. And Oslo now his videos about sharpening videos. Bit did you see how tiny this peace was and he you see a plane that is heavy as a wooden jointed and housed for flattening boards. That's incredible.
@thwwoodcraft1449
@thwwoodcraft1449 3 жыл бұрын
So first here!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you are!.. 5 stars for you
@thwwoodcraft1449
@thwwoodcraft1449 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking and here I thought my life was for naught
@danielszemborski
@danielszemborski 3 жыл бұрын
Rob Cosman is to dovetails as a dentist is to teeth.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
But no novicane
@vnvet2282
@vnvet2282 3 ай бұрын
excuse #1: gaps show my dovetails are hand, not machine, made. excuse #2: gaps provide ventilation (I tell my wife).
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 3 ай бұрын
#1 that’s exactly why I don’t want gaps. I want someone to think it was machine made, but that a machine couldn’t possibly make them with pins that small.
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