The only thing worse is not Fung himself, but the mindless robots in the comments who take what he says even further with some of the most ignorant stuff you will ever hear.

Guess I imagined losing 120+ lbs over the last year or so while having 50 - 65% carb intake every day.

I lost 80lbs over the last year, eating carbs the whole time, and I'll Larsen Press more than Fung's entire lineage can deadlift.

Jason Fung taught me how to fast. I never gave up carbs, just fasted and ate whole real foods. Fasting really was a life changer for me. Take what makes sense to you leave the rest.

fat loss didn't exist before keto

HUMAN RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS!

Shoot. Somebody better tell the 40 lbs of fat I lost while eating 250g of carbs everyday.

I’d like to meet him and introduce him to my food journals and weight tracker over the last 5 years while I lost 100lbs and have been maintaining my loss, eating lots of carbs the WHOLE way! Sometimes I even ate lots of cookies cuz cookies are life!

Unfortunately, years ago, Fung was my first introduction to weight loss books. I spent far too long trying to reconcile his BS with reality, and I couldn't understand why every other nutrition, fitness, and diet book/source I read afterwards stated the complete opposite of Fung's "Obesity Code." Once I finally started searching around for arguments that directly countered Fung, everything made sense for me and I was able to use actual information to improve all aspects of my health (especially my diet and eating habits). To put that anti-carb brainworm to rest, I did the "potato hack" for a week, eating 2.5 kilos of gold potatoes per day (over 400gm carbs per day), and I ended the week about 3kg lighter. I've now been doing weighted calisthenics and eating low-fat, high-carb, high-fiber for years now, and I am satisfied with my understanding of resistance training and healthy eating. On the scale, I am currently back at the weight I was desperate to lose many years ago when I first found Fung's book, except that I had lost 12kg and then gained it all back as muscle through resistance training and eating the diet I mentioned. No thanks at all to Jason Fung, of course. Never trust a dude that tells you legumes will make you fat.

Layne I just wanna say I really appreciate what you do and I think it’s very commendable. The past few years for me have honestly been hell lol from having an emergency surgery and being diagnosed w dysautonomia to developing an eating disorder, so much of that I believe was directly caused by listening to the nutrition bs that’s out there. Had I come across your content earlier I probably could’ve avoided it all together. It’s sickening how people try to scare and manipulate people into food rules and dogma. There needs to be more people like you calling it out. Keep doing what you’re doing!

A long time ago in highschool, i met a girl that went on the chocolate diet, meaning for lunch and diner she only ate a bar of chocolate, and she lost so much weight and a a fast pace. Why? Because she was a caloric déficit!

Hold my Pop Tart and watch me!

I was following Fung for a while desperate to lose weight. Fasting for 24-48 hours at a time while training for a marathon and they’d keep telling me it’s fine your getting fat adapted your body has lots of fat stored as fuel - well I’m not dead and it didn’t kill me but my performance sucked and I felt like absolute crap and like I was going to die!

Dr Berry said that too (on a live stream) and tons of people agreed. So annoying.

Lost 22 pounds in 6 months eating rice and rice based foods ( I am South Indian ) three times a day . I was satiated and didn’t feel like I am starving . I walked 8 kms a day and did 45 mins hitt ( cardio plus weight training alternate days ) . I used to take Fung seriously sometime back .

Thank you so much for calling out all of this crazy nonsense a lot of these people speak. Also for speaking on the lumen device I've always wanted to hear a professional opinion on it.

Great video 🎉

Funny how I’ve lost 20lb so far in this cut while eating probably 35-40% of my diet as carbs. I must be crazy and mistaken though.

First video I’ve ever watched of yours and I like you already 🤩

Thank you for always clarifying & putting reliable information out there. These “gimmicky“ people drive me crazy😑 with all the confusion & false information they’re feeding people, especially those who don’t have the exercise science background knowledge 🤦🏽‍♀️

I can't stop watching your videos. Science, science, I love the science!

I really appreciate what you do!!!!! 😀😀😀😀😀😀

I lose fat for competition levels in 18 weeks. For the first time in 2021 my diet was between 55% to 60% of carbs EVERY DAYS...NO depletion ... My best pre contest ever in 9 years... And i have the best conditioning on the stage in the 4 shows... Low carb never...

Thank you once again for being my only lifeline to nutritional sanity while I once again went down a nutritional cult rabbit hole with these quacks for 9 months.

If I understood correctly the correlation in that graph could be as simple as people that eat too many calories, also eat higher ratio of carbs because they drink for example soda or the kind of extra calories people usually drop first when they go on a diet. It's not the carbs that is the actual problem, but the ratio happens to be higher with people typically over eating.

Does anyone think Ken Berry is the worst with his all you can eat beef, bacon, butter and eggs diet? It just blows my mind

Fung and Berry have set a lot of people back. Decades or forever. They will never lose an ounce and always wonder why.

I don't know what carbs are, I guess. I thought I was eating 200-300g a day while I was losing weight...but I guess I wasn't.

Good stuff

Great content! Could you do an episode on your experience with statins? I've also been taking one for a while and I wanna switch to pcsk9 inhibitors since they may be more effective. I'm not asking for medical advice just for your take and personal experience with lipid lowering therapies.

Great content

I followed the meat centric high fat no or low-carb diet (keto, whatever). It does work to a point in that food heavy in saturated fat is satiating so lower calorie intake..but when I had my cholesterol checked and it was 535, my Dr told me to knock it off. I know these people say that blood cholesterol doesn't matter, but my Dr does, and I just have to take his word for it. Ever since I went back to basic CICO with carbs, I continue to lose, feel much better, skin cleared up, and realize that diet fads are nothing new.

Welcome back Dr. Fung

“If you’re constantly burning carbs…” Which would be really hard to do if you expend more than you consume.

I am 59, carry less than 9% body fat, am not yet on any HRT (will when I am told I need to), and eat tons of carbs that I log into MyFitnessPal (free version) every day. It's all about that EB, yo! BTW, brown is your color, my friend. Earth tones for the win!

A Lumen ad played immediately after this video for me...what timing.

I lost 100 pounds of weight by ensuring a calorie deficit and a strict exercise regime. I consumed chicken, broccoli, carrots, beef, bacon, bread, and gin and tonic. My diet had lots of fat, protein and some carbs. Most people don't need to fast or go keto or carnivore. There will be some people that need very restricted diets, but not many

I cannot believe I did not find this channel until now. Came here from Andrew Huberman BTW. This is kind of information I need after going thru hell with Carnivore and Keto diets in the past few weeks.

I tried Lumen and returned it because it was completely worthless for me. I did an RMR test (as well as a VO2 and DEXA Scan) and it was so much more revealing. I was undereating by about 500 calories so I'm glad I now have that data plus the Carbon Diet Coach to help me lose the last little bit of fat over the next few months.

I lost 20 pounds after college while eating 250 grams of non veggie carbs a day... Went from 210 to 190

People are overweight due to years of eating too much. But why are they eating too much. Dr Fung has changed my life by learning about fasting and what I was eating and when and focusing on the why.

How do people believe an obese person about losing fat I don’t get it

How does he explain all the countries that eat like 90% of. There calories from carbs or the lack of obesity in japan

Luman is an expensive joke .. I looked into too and your right !!

Whoever claims calories don't matter has no common sense and also skipped school when we were learning about the laws of thermodynamics.

I love when Lumen ads are before these lmao

Can you put a link to the video that you explain "can't lose fat because you're eating carbs" thing?

I’m quite active, so even dieting my calories are pretty high. Tail end of my last fat loss phase I was on 375g carbs a day 😂

Lumen advertisement right after your show lol

in 2023 I still get people forwarding me his shit!! They think he's some holy guru saviour. The carb - insulin model is so outdated and debunked.

I am super fit and i eat 400gr of carba daily. It fits in my total calories so no issues there and carbs are insulin releasing so very muscle building and muscle sparing and start MPS with mtor

If you undereat the amount of calories your body requires to function on you will loose weight, no matter what diet. But quality of food does matter, as does physical activity.

Me getting a lumen ad prior to the video 💀

Lost about 30kgs...have kept it off since 9 years...Never went a day without carbs...

Wait so where are are these doctors getting their degrees?

Anybody knows the study Layne refers to that shows less than 2% of CH being converted to fat? Thanks

I lost 80 plus pounds while eating sufficient carbs. Fung is out to lunch.

The type of people that tends to agree with these approach are also the kind of people who struggles the most losing fat... I wonder why

People can't lose fat eating carbs...except for the millions of people that do.

I'll never understand why those colleges don't strip those quacks of their doctor titles.

I got a lumen ad lol

He just wants to keep selling books based on his nonsense. Thank again for keeping us truly informed…guys like Dr. F and the others will keep people so confused

Hi Dr. Layne!

I honestly think an educational video or series explaining and connecting respiratory quotient, C02, doubly labeled water, fat oxidation, and weight loss is going to be extremely beneficial for this community. These concepts appear in countless studies and it seems no one, including possibly Dr. Jason Fung and commenters of this video, has any idea how to properly put these into context. Someone make the move and give the general population the knowledge they deserve.

Calories in calories out. Eat whatever you want it won’t change the equation

I trust that dr layne is telling the truth. Something that bothers me is that people like Jason fungus is trying to convince us that eating low carb which is almost impossible to stick to is the answer. I agree that people like me tend to eat carbs that are full of sugar which is messing us up. But eating nutritious food that is prepared in a delicious way will help us lose weight

That's funny because I've been this bodyfat for over 23 years, even back in 2008 when I was doing the typical bodybuilding diet and eating over 300g of carbs per day. I've also been my fattest by only eating meat, when the amount of meat I was consuming was more than the amount of meat that my body required. It's almost as though you can lose fat by eating carbs in a deficit and gain fat by eating meat in a surplus...

They even asked him about his asian ancestry consuming mostly starches like rice and noodles.

I love that I’m watching you say that Lumen is essentially pointless and there’s an ad for Lumen underneath the player. It’s like they know their product is shit and don’t give a fuck.

Lol ironically I managed to lose 25lb following Jason Fung's OMAD and carb thing in 2021.... Then I decided I wanted to be a bodybuilder in late 2021.. and I realized that a good portion of the "weight" I lost was actually (to my horror) muscle. Yeahhhh.

I have spent a lot of time in both camps to end up with essentially the belief that high carb, low fat is best for most athletes. You also gain the advantage of a "buffer" on high carb low fat in the form of muscle glycogen. My understanding is that low carb people store less glucose in the muscles (due to demand driven concept of gluconeogenesis) so you are almost always running on a "just barely sufficient level of glycogen" in the liver and the muscles. It is also my understanding that no one completely ceases to burn fat. So if fat intake is low enough, any net fat gain would have to be a result from the conversion of lipolysis from the excess carbs, whatever those may be. I definitely believe in CICO, ultimately, but I do think at least for me, that eating high carb and low fat allows me not feel like a zombie. Same caloric intake, I perform much better on high carb. I can actually push weights and make PRs. On low carb, I can barely get out of bed. It is a night and day difference. I also think if you exercise a lot, high carb is superior as well due to the carbohydrate sink. Fat oxidation from body fat stores seemingly hits 90% of its output at low intensity, but if you up the intensity, the glucose gets added to the fuel mixture. That said, there was one study that indicated fat oxidation goes down slightly when super high intensity work is done, but it isn't that much (90% vs 75%). So those extra carbs from hard exercise (if not laced with fat) will refill glycogen and not lead to fat gain, which will also allow you to power your next session with proper itensity. Again, I used to buy into the LCHF type stuff, but after going 3+ months MULTIPLE TIMES (I have 15 years, and thus about 15 cycles of both of these "diets"), that I finally came to the conclusion that life is simply not worth living on LCHF. You can't really hit exercise that hard or if you do hit it hard it cannot be done very often, very long, or both. If you like to move and be outside (with more than low intensity), don't go low carb, IMO. If you want to sit in your house in the winter and watch netflix, sure go LCHF and keep calories in check. You will be fine.

Lost 2 lbs in a week eating bread, fruits, milk, legumes, basically the same stuff as always just less, lol.

Im diabetic… for me… it is very hard for me to stick to a high carb n super low fat diet… so i am on low carb high protein now… easier for me to lower weight n maintain lower weight… Ps i respect both Layne n Jason. I acknowledge both of their contributions to nutrition…

Layne wins this argument again! After the point said about rice diet🎤 drop.

Can someone give url to this studies about 2% of carbs turns into body fat?

You can burn both in the same day. Otherwise it would mean every physique athlete would only do Keto. Can Jason even bench 135 for 2?

I've eaten low carb, keto, and even carnivore for a short time. It's hard to over consume meat. It's easy to over consume fake foods. Not all carbs are fake food. Fat is ok and carbs are ok. The take away for me was to eat real food and to not over consume. Lastly, it is more complicated than calories in/calories out. However, if exercise does not increase calorie burn, then how is it that just sitting all day tends to lead to weight gain??

In 2007, I lost 40 lbs. the entire time, I kept these macros: 60% carbs, 26% protein, 15% carbs. I kept my calories between 1400-1800 per day. I ran 5x a week (2-6 miles each time) and strength trained 3-4x a week.

This reminds me of bo Sandoval and metabolic flexibility training. There is something of value here but maybe not presented in the best way by doctor fung

😂😂😂 my Dr. might need to run some more test on me then and explain how I’ve lost 170lbs …. Because English muffins with scrambled eggs or protein oats are my breakfast 90% of the time so that can’t be it 😂

I seemed to lose weight just fine in 10th grade when I decided to eat nothing but a mountain dew all day & a bowl of vegetables for dinner for 9 months! all carbs 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Its like Dr. Phil writing his Diet Books and marriage books .....lol

But if you use that machine and it reports that you never “breathe out fat”, isn’t that an indicator that you’re not in a deficit?

Layne, if less than 2% of what i eat as carbohydrate winds up as addipose tissue fat, and it is mostly fat that lands there, that would mean if I ate 5000 kcal more than i burn per day and only eat pure sugar, or starch I only gain 100 kcal in bodyfat stores per day right? So since a kg of bodyfat is estimated to be around 7000 kcal of energy roughly it would take me 2 whole month to accrue 1 KG of additional body fat. Are you sure this is how it works? I mean if this is the science I guess overeating by massive amounts is hardly a problem as long as you go pure carb then...asking for a friend here.

What shirts do you wear?

@ErikTheElectric would blow his mind

Well, the point is when you use more fat in your diet, it brings more satiety thereby eating less, which is the opposite site of a high-carb diet!

Jason Fungus have brought to diets what Dr. Phil has brought to therapy. 😂

I often wonder how people like fung ever made it through medical school

Jason taking half the truth. This KZfaqr taking all the truth because he knows everything. Eating carb and loose fat is total malnutrition with severe garbage addiction.

Would you post the citation? TIA!

The ad preceding the video was for lumen.

I've said it before but I swear to God, the people that peddle this BS and the ones that believe it have clearly never known even a lean high school athlete in their lives... Certainly not followed them around while they eat. When I was the leanest I've ever been and you could trace veins All through my stomach and obliques, I ate over 400 g of carbs a day. Hardly unique in that way

Hi.

Ahhh I can hear the fungites stirring....

Lost 60 lbs so far while eating a shit ton of carbs. I just bike a lot.

For last five years all i eat was almost f**g carbs. U know what, i lost weight consistently and i find it difficult to gain any weight.

💯

I lost 62lbs this past yr eating at least 200 grams of carbs a day. Closer to 300.