Dang... Peterson is soooooo persuasive here. I almost believed him... until I read the disclaimer KZfaq put on this video about climate change. That was close.

I'll start worrying about climate change when the elites who are telling me I should care stop flying in private planes to discuss how the rest of the world needs to suffer for the cause.

South Australia has tried to prove to the world a state can run 100% on renewable energy. We have the highest energy prices in the world, we had state wide blackouts for 2 days, we have rolling blackouts in the city every night, rural areas can be without power for days at a time, industry is leaving the state because their energy bills are through the roof. We have an abundance of natural resources that we mine and ship overseas, but no way would we do anything to reduce the prices for the state population. We also buy a lot of our energy from other states. It's gone beyond a joke and is just plain corruption now.

Talk about being out gunned. This is like attacking a battleship with a paintball gun.

KZfaq puts a note prominently under this video, making sure we know what we are "supposed" to think about the topic being discussed.

The real issue here is that Destiny thinks he's about 3x smarter than he really is.

Jordan’s arguments are always precise and compelling!!

I'll start caring about climate change when we stop all the weather manipulation that we are doing on a daily basis all over the country.

"something weird underneath, something weird that isn't oriented well towards humanity"

They are increasing the carbon tax here in Canada by 20% on April 1st. Thats not a joke.

A sin tax is dramatically different than an energy tax… a sin tax is on something you don’t need while an energy tax is on something you need not want but need to live

That point Dr Peterson raised at the end of this clip about faux compassion and elites planning out of "anti dystopian future was beautifully put.

Destiny in trouble with the Principal

I remember being young and joking with friends that one day if they could they would charge us for the air we breath. Well here we are, what a joke this world has become.

The sudden increase in temperature is also massively.impactes by the measurement. There are very few monitoring atations not effected by urban development.

I enjoy Jordan Peterson I will also say that’s a bright young man and these are the kind of discussions that need to happen. Very important

Well, regardless of who "won" im just glad that Jordan is having more black women on his podcast with videos like this one. Great inclusion!

There’s people that know what they know and always know there’s a chance they may be wrong. Then there’s people that believe they know and they can’t possibly be wrong.

I'm truly shocked that there are still people denying the correlation between carbon emissions and rapidly rising temperatures. What year is this??

I`ve never seen this Destiny guy produce a single original thought

What is the point of debating people if their goal is simply to win the debate, and not bring us closer to solving the problem or finding the truth?

I love the KZfaq climate change link under the video. F KZfaq!!!!

A few weeks ago, front page news articles in the UK, reported about the poor skiing conditions in the Alps, due to a lack of adequate snow cover - as a result of man-made climate change of course. But recently after huge snowfalls and fantastic skiing conditions....................... CRICKETS!

One is trying to have a conversation that gets somewhere. One is trying to win an argument.

This is a master class in not letting someone wriggle out of an incorrect position. Here tries to pivot everyone he talks and Jordan won’t let him out

I am in complete and utter shock that destiny is not hosting The View.

Hottest year where? In Australia it's been a very cool year compared to others. No bush fires this summer.

That was awesome. I really hope we get to see more of this from others...

Please keep setting the Climate hysteria crazies straight, Dr. Peterson!!

We are at the top of the 90-year Gleissberg solar cycle! We are having the same hot, dry weather as they had during the last two peaks in 1847 and 1936.

No one 50 years ago could predict the economic impact of what is going on NOW, even in 2000. 40 years ago there were predictions of a new ice age.

so, ignorance of scientific testing, using logical fallacy, falling prey to confirmation bias, and cherry-picking data points are considered "Good Debating" these days? Sad.

And "Destiny" doesn't even care about what Dr. Peterson is saying..... He's not even paying any real attention!

Rationality vs. the Church of Climatology. Let's say that humanity is even partially responsible, the cost to "ameliorate" humanity's supposed involvement in the change is far greater than the cost to acclimate to the change.

What the he'll, they put in a commercial right when JP defines his argument. Wtf!

Okay you got me. I’ll listen to it. I’ve seen so many ads for this debate - and I have never heard of Destiny before lol. So I had to research him a little and I’m absolutely shocked he would be willing to go toe to toe with Peterson on anything.

Hahahah Jordan completely exposed this dude.

One notepad has genius level thought…the other has doodles on it.

"This isn't data, it's guess". Now that's some truth right there.

This entire debate in this clip would be remedied by Dr. Zach Bush who would describe the actual reason the temperatures are rising. In short, it's not the carbon in the air. More carbon creates a higher potential for biodiversity and "greening" of the planet. The real problem is our farming methods. The herbicides, pesticides, over-tilling, and mono-cropping has destroyed the soil microbiome. That means all the microbes that were traditionally in the soil to absorb the carbon are dead. The factory farms and our uniform grass lawns are responsible for this. That microbiome served as a crucial part of the food web that helps develop the nutrients that the crops need to grow. Without that microbiome, we have to use all kinds of fertilizers just to get the crops to resemble crops. But even if they look healthy, they do not have the same micronutrient profile that organic, regenerative farming produces. If our food is deficient in micronutrients, then _we_ are deficient in micronutrients, and that is the real cause of the chronic disease epidemic. Beyond that though, micronutrient deficiencies sends us into a scarcity mindset whether we know it or not... basically a fight or flight mode in response to fear of scarcity. This dictates the entire structure of society. Unhealthy, fearful bodies and minds mean unhealthy socioeconomic structures. Instead of feeling safe and secure with a steady stream of income, we decide we need heinous excess to insulate ourselves from the woes of poverty. But that excess causes more scarcity elsewhere in the economy, and eventually the people living with that scarcity blame their problems on someone else. Who? Well, whoever they are led to believe is to blame. Maybe they blame wealthy people. Maybe they blame another nation. Maybe they blame their cultural opposition. All of this finger-pointing leads to a vicious cycle of greed that creates more scarcity, division, war, and fear. We now have entire media conglomerates dependent on fear propagation of their respective cultural or national opposition. But in reality, it all started with the soil! We have disconnected ourselves from the nature we evolved with, and it's destroying our health and infecting our socioeconomic structure. We need to shift the blame to our soil, and every single person has the capacity to help fix the problem. We can treat symptoms or we can treat underlying catalysts. If you had a leak in your roof, you wouldn't fix the drywall before fixing the shingles, right? Why would be meddle around with carbon credits and more fear propagation? Here's what you can do: -Prioritize locally-grown organic food to increase the efficiency of production and drive prices down -Grow a garden -Support regenerative farming practices in any other way you can If you don't have money, here's what you can do: -Prioritize politicians in the voting booth that put the environment first, not via carbon credits, but by *regenerative farming* policy -Literally plant seeds anywhere you can... In parks, along bike trails, etc. You don't need organic seeds, we just needs seeds planted in places without pesticides/herbicides/overtilling. -Spend time in nature... It's not just the food you eat that matters, but everything that goes into your body, including the air you breathe and the things you touch. Polluted concrete jungles, sanitized surfaces, and drywall enclosures don't expose your immune system to the nature you evolved in. -Diversify your sources of information to include the nuanced narratives between the extreme ends of any spectrum. That nuance is akin to micronutrients. The mainstream media narratives are akin to processed food. Those mainstream narratives are effectively processed information created by people eating processed food. There are a lot of macronutrients in processed food but few micronutrients. The micronutrients help your body efficiently process the macronutrients to improve your health, just like the nuanced narratives help the extreme narratives communicate with each other effectively to solve socioeconomic problems. These analogies are more true than you may give them credit for.... Above all though, eat healthier and exercise. You don't have to buy organic food right away if you can't afford it. You don't have to be a body builder or a marathon runner. Find a way to make exercise enjoyable. Make slow changes to your nutrition if adding new foods bothers you. Focus on diversity rather than single "superfoods." Your dinner plate should resemble a rainbow. As you get healthier your mind will literally seek more diverse sources of information and you will leave behind the divisive fear propaganda, and our socioeconomic structures will improve in lockstep with our physical and mental health. "We are what we eat." Give love to the soil, and the soil will love you back in ways you might not be able to imagine.

Why does anyone (including Destiny ) thinks Destiny has anything useful to say? He comes across as a smug narcissist.

All those notes Destiny took… you would think he’d be open to actually learning something.

Usually not a fan of Peterson talking over his guests, but very thankful for it this time!!

Dr. Peterson forgot to mention one key aspect, that Destiny is indeed a girls name

Density.

The Greatest Canadian EVER , J.B.P. How he " suffers fools " is beyond me .

What would we do without having the government and KZfaq warn us to think! LOL

Lol this is the guy on whatever podcast that said his open relationship is perfect and they will never fail. Where is his "wife" now LOL

Destiny thinking, "What does "externalities" mean?"

when youtube tells me “context” i know that it’s important that the truth is whatever the opposite of the youtubes context is

You can give a Canadian a never ending suit wardrobe and they will always find their way back to denim

Been reading 1984. About 3/4 of the way through. I also read the communist manifesto a while back. I also read the most tragic thing i could ever read which is called the anti humans about the prison in pitesti romania under soviot rule in the 40's and 50's. The more I learn, the more frustrated I get with people like destiny about things these subjects. It is true. Ignorance is sometimes bliss. The less I know the less irritated and frustrated I am about these conversations.

This note is a sickening reminder of how far we’ve fallen

Jordan Peterson: "you can't model climate systems or economic systems to the degree these policies require." Destiny: "let's assume you can model climate systems and economic systems to the degree these policies require [so I can make the point I want to make]."

They are both so intelligent they loose each other on specificity.

Density thought that being in the same room as a genius would mean that Density herself is smarter than she actually is.

Why no mention of ice core samples?? Temps have been MUCH higher and MUCH lower multiple times over the past 100k+ years. Simple. We can all agree pollution is bad, and THAT should be the focus. NOT "climate change"

Why are people giving this dude a platform... a grown man who calls himself destiny and loves Biden 🤡🤡🤡🤡

When the politicians talked about the environment people got better at recycling, the economy was ok and things were fine and dandy. When they replaced the word with "climate" and tried to control it thats when everything started going to hell

What do you think destiny is drawing when he swipes his pen on that pad so abruptly ? Haha😂

It's clear to me after watching this interview, that Destiny has his mind set on a lot of this and he will not stray from what he's told by the mainstream. Thinking for himself is what he apparently does, so I'm quite confused.

According to Noah, a seven day weather forecast is inaccurate 20% of the time. A 10 day forecast is an inaccurate 50% of the time. How many times have you personally experienced an inaccurate weather report the next day? How can they claim to predict whether 100 years from now and people actually believe that?

JP has a very good point on the frightening attitude of elites - which is one of our critical problems atm.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="651">10:51</a> He admits (confidently) that he starts the temperature-mesuring time frame with the beginning of industrial age... to prove that industrial age activities caused it. That means, "we don't want any control group data whatsoever." Guess he never heard of "correlation is not causation." The possibility that this 100-year industrial age is just part of the long-term fluctuation from ice age to warm age never comes to his mind.

Good grief! The planet is 4.5 billion years old........we are a mere speck in time.

I heard an actual climate expert claim that historically, the increased level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has lagged the higher temperatures, not the other way around. Is there any truth to that?

There is no cheap energy. It seemed cheap for a while. We thought in our collective stupidity or our willful ignorance so to say ;) we can internalize profits from it, while externalizing costs to the environment. But it turned out that we can't, not in a long run at this scale. We've reached planetary boundaries.

This guy trying to debate Jordan is like a child attempting to debate the parent on the reasoning he/she believes having cupcakes for dinner is reasonable.

JP won hands down. The other guy was all over the place with his 'argument'.

It's all about power and money. None of it is about climate and poverty. Those in true control want more for themselves.

Every one of the last ten months has set a temperature record. Almost every year for the past ten years has set a temperature record. It is becoming just plain absurd to pretend this is just a coincidence!

Few people can take on Jordan, but this guy is definitely not equipped.

Canada produces around 1% of the world’s carbon emissions and we are being hit hard by the carbon tax. They don’t measure how much the carbon tax has made a difference. It’s crazy!

Fuck am I supposed to give my money to the homeless, discard the environment or buy gold? Its too confusing

Gotta love how this is the 4th thing that pops us when you search for this.. below a doordash advertisement

"Hottest years on record" are a modelling and measurement error. Urban expansion into static measurement locations are showing the temperature increase related to the geographic growth and expansion of cities over the past century.

Wiped the floor with his smug ass. 😂

Destiny sounds like an Adderall philosopher

Thank you Mr. Peterson!

CO2 has reached its "saturation point", meaning that any more of it cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton Prof William Happer on this

One of the problems with his statement about record high temps the last 5 years is they are cherry picking the high temps, and ignoring the low temps! You must have a disinterested third party examining the highs and lows and not cherry picking to reinforce a narrative that they want to manipulate for their political power!

Such a great conversation

The intelectual equivalent of prime Mike Tyson vs. Joe Schmoe in a boxing match.

People still pay 27$ a pack for cigarettes, the tax does nothkng to stop addiction 😅😂

Destiny?! His name is destiny??!! Lol

My husband forecasts for a huge consumer healthcare company each seasons sales/in stocks etc and they never get it 110% right. Margin of error is an important factor these people never consider. Insane to sacrifice the poor.

Can anyone explain to me how CO2 is considered a pollutant, when all plant life is dependent upon it?

Jordon is on an entirely different level than this guy. I am surprised this took place.

I can't even fathom people are this delusional... I am so grateful for JP, a great mind we desperately need in these clownish times

As a electrician and HVAC business owner i could school both Jordan Peterson and Destiny Both. They are so smart their stupid on the subject. Its like arguing macro vs micro and not being on the same page. Or quantum physics vs regular physics. They are discussing completely moronic points that are quite minor compared to the true meat of the subject. Power creation, distribution, storage and infrastructure. I could break it down very easily in about 10 min.

"We've just had another hottest year on record" - Has anyone actually verified this i.e. how the data is collected, how temperatures are compared, and where these temperatures are being recorded?

Destiny dresses sloppy to match his arguments 😂

This part was so good, was so satisfying to see somebody finally pin Destiny down where he usually manages to wiggle free

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="760">12:40</a> true, many of the measurement devices are placed in inopportune places such as by parking lots (reflecting much heat in summertime).

Has anyone asked the poor how they feel about this?

God bless you Dr. Peterson!

I remember Obama running for office and he was very much on the side of worrying about climate change, now he has multiple mansions worth close to 50 million just for the houses right on the beach. Clearly he is not worried about sea levels raising and until that changes I'm not either.

It's good to see a voice of reason being applied to the subject

We can’t even predict next weeks interest rates

Green Energy? In what world are solar and wind power green energy? The machines that harness solar and wind produce barely enough useful energy return on energy invested to produce any energy at all.