Dragon's Past!! Marines & Revolutionaries

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Thoughts on Dragon's past with the Marines and if their was a specific event that led him to leave? Could Ginny actually turn out to be Luffy's mom?
00:00 - INTRO
00:40 - Chapter 1097
04:46 - Dragon The Marine
15:48 - About Ginny...
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@CoffeeBrainzz
@CoffeeBrainzz 9 ай бұрын
I like to think that Dragon was ABOUT to be promoted to Admiral, but the event he was promoted for he felt ashamed by it and when he was asked to present his 'form of justice' is when he came to the full realization that there is 'No Justice' here
@MasquedJustice
@MasquedJustice 8 ай бұрын
"Admiral Dragon. What is your form of justice?" "..." "Admiral Dragon?" "Untainted Justice."
@DanDaMaN95cov
@DanDaMaN95cov 9 ай бұрын
I like the idea of Dragon being on God island. He witnessed firsthand how corrupt the World Noble's are. Maybe some citizens pled for his help, and a noble orders him to step aside. Maybe they shoot a child cowering behind Dragon, and he just snapped.
@raymondwalker3020
@raymondwalker3020 9 ай бұрын
I can see that 👍
@EmmanuelMarin07
@EmmanuelMarin07 9 ай бұрын
How old would he be at that point?
@radaro.9682
@radaro.9682 9 ай бұрын
​​@@EmmanuelMarin0717. 55-38=17
@rakionyellowmind2293
@rakionyellowmind2293 9 ай бұрын
@@EmmanuelMarin07 like 18 or something
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor 9 ай бұрын
@@EmmanuelMarin07 He's 55.
@Waaghlogg
@Waaghlogg 9 ай бұрын
With Koby being our benchmark for what a "garp trained" marine would be like, i.e. captain at 18, vice admiral Dragon would be quite realistic at 25 i would asume
@k2geekd
@k2geekd 9 ай бұрын
dragon probably was a admiral, imagine that 1on1 training but from the jump
@LupineShadowOmega
@LupineShadowOmega 9 ай бұрын
@@k2geekd Depends. Does he get actual training or Luffy style neglected and then actually trained..? lol
@eliaspanayi3465
@eliaspanayi3465 9 ай бұрын
And koby was just a weak deckhand when he started, dragon has garp's genetics too
@boccobadz
@boccobadz 9 ай бұрын
Depends. It seems like Dragon's fruit is op as hell, he might have been close to admiral level.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 9 ай бұрын
Community:dragon was in the marines? Shocking Garp all his life to every male he meets: now you kids will become marines and work to keeping the peace.
@bqw2094
@bqw2094 9 ай бұрын
I always imagined this scene of garp and dragon having a moral debate right before dragon deserts him .
@cassie6146
@cassie6146 9 ай бұрын
Oh lord what if Akainu used to be Dragon's Ryukugyu and then that rabid devotion did an immediate 180 after Dragon defected?
@nathanj3528
@nathanj3528 9 ай бұрын
That adds nothing to Akainu's character nor does one make you go absolute justice by just hating somebody.
@itsjayh
@itsjayh 9 ай бұрын
Gb would still follow akainu even if he defected
@patternz_
@patternz_ 9 ай бұрын
@@nathanj3528 i mean ryuma was revealed to be zoros ancestor but it didnt really do much for zoros character
@benosmith5997
@benosmith5997 9 ай бұрын
They were obviously rivals and akainu was second to him and respected his strength and when he defected like you said whole 180
@dandyman204
@dandyman204 9 ай бұрын
@@itsjayhno, he wouldn’t. He follows the celestial dragons and sees listening to Akainu as a way to get their approval
@yolnkhaliahino6419
@yolnkhaliahino6419 9 ай бұрын
Yeah.... There are multiple panels establishing that Ginny is only interested in Kuma. It seems extremely out of character for her to be head over heels for Kuma, have a child with Dragon in any context, and then be absolutely giddy about seeing Kuma again. That seems extremely absurd even by One Piece standards. That's Akira Toriyama levels of "I need this thing to happen but it's completely out of character for everyone involved, so I'm just gonna force a reason for it to happen anyway"
@cartoonishidealism582
@cartoonishidealism582 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. The chapter HAMMERS THAT POINT HOME. It makes a point of showing Ginny turn down ANYONE who isn’t Kuma.
@dcaslick
@dcaslick 9 ай бұрын
Yep. Ginny is clearly head over heels for Kuma. The idea she’d just give up on him seems incredibly out of character for her.
@kamikaze.33
@kamikaze.33 9 ай бұрын
Oda can be a sick man with how much pain he writes into his character's backstories, but not even Oda would write something THAT ****ed up. Plus, Dragon cares WAY too much about justice and doing what's right for him to betray one of his main nakama like that! Idk why people want this to be Luffy's mom so badly anyway.
@rakionyellowmind2293
@rakionyellowmind2293 9 ай бұрын
I mean, love changes overtime. Yeah sure she was head over heels but is that a forever thing? Usually in fiction it is but in real life, definitely.
@sarov7658
@sarov7658 9 ай бұрын
It could be if she is a bimbo which I highly doubt lmao
@liveparkour3888
@liveparkour3888 9 ай бұрын
I have a great idea about the Monkey family. Garp wants justice but he is afraid of the government power so he works under them at the highest position he can while still giving people freedom Dragon wants justice while working outside the marines so he can give people freedom Luffy doesn't care about justice and wants to be free, and in his path gives people freedom By this logic, Garps dad also wanted justice but is willing to go to a higher position than garp even if it means the people don't get their freedom And again by the same logic, luffys son will not even think about justice and be free and not need to give anyone freedom because everyone is already free. Every progressive generation is the monkey family gets further away from the marines and closer to liberating people but all want to liberate people and give freedom
@noot4954
@noot4954 9 ай бұрын
I like it, makes sense, especially for how bloodlines work
@MrE-wr8ws
@MrE-wr8ws 9 ай бұрын
I disagree Garp does not fear the world government he calls the Celestial Dragons scum openly. I think Garp believes that people should be free and that means protecting them from criminals and pirates. Dragon realized that people will never be truly free as long as celestial dragons rule the world. Luffy doesn’t really care about that he just cares about his own freedom and the freedom of his friends.
@liveparkour3888
@liveparkour3888 9 ай бұрын
@@MrE-wr8ws you're right maybe afraid isn't the right word. More like... tolerant?
@mokaljordan
@mokaljordan 9 ай бұрын
Thats a good insight yea it seems that the monkey family are all seeking freedom for others in their own ways, garp fighting for the freedom of the youth, dragon fighting for the freedom from tyrany and luffy wanting to be an example to world of what the worlds freeest man looks like so other ppl can do it too, i wonder if garp's dad wanted to be a celestial dragon at some point as celestial dragons are technically the freest ppl in the world
@LupineShadowOmega
@LupineShadowOmega 9 ай бұрын
@@MrE-wr8ws Garp believes you need order to truly be free, meanwhile Dragon believes that true freedom means throwing off that thin veneer of order for real freedom and justice, no matter how messy or scary that might be for the world.
@semvicious
@semvicious 9 ай бұрын
Well, I highly doubt that Ginny is Luffy's mom, since Oda once said he already drew her somewhere. Also, Oda said that Luffys mom is not important to the story. Ginny was instrumental for the God Valley incident, she got this whole shabang rolling.
@Empress-Angel
@Empress-Angel 9 ай бұрын
This whole time I've just been wondering how Queen Conney fits into all this. We know Bonney was using her identity at Reverie, but the guards still recognized the old woman's appearance as a ruler of the Sorbet Kingdom. Kuma's parents clearly looked nothing like Conney and Ginny wasn't from the kingdom originally, so why does the unrelated queen have a near-identical name and appearance to an elderly Bonney?
@MyNegroAcademia
@MyNegroAcademia 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering this same thing! Lmfao I wonder if Oda forgot Edit: unless Bonney’s just been pretending to be Conney this whole time? But that doesn’t make sense either
@NintendoSegaGuys
@NintendoSegaGuys 9 ай бұрын
Kuma does become king of the Sorbet Kingdom so maybe Ginny ends up surviving the situation she's in next chapter and for some reason needs to change her identity and stay in Sorbet? Ch 1098: Screw your opinion.
@nataliawineland34
@nataliawineland34 9 ай бұрын
Oh this is so true!
@retrohanska4441
@retrohanska4441 9 ай бұрын
@@MyNegroAcademia I don't think Oda would have forgotten that since not only it was quite recent but we also have been returning back to those events quite frequently so whatever notes Oda has regarding Reverie must have been in front of him a lot. If this was some small detail that happened +500 chapters ago I'd maybe buy that but not in these circumtances.
@MyNegroAcademia
@MyNegroAcademia 9 ай бұрын
@@retrohanska4441 fair enough
@JakeMatthews-OnLo
@JakeMatthews-OnLo 9 ай бұрын
Him being a former Marine was an expected reveal, but now I’m wondering if he has any lingering connections with other members, a lot of people have recently pointed out Akainu made it a point to mention dragon during the few times he faced Luffy, rather than his pure belief that any pirates no matter the crime should just be purged, so maybe there’s a connection there. Also yeah the English VA does have a natural deep raspy voice, but I think there’s younger characters with deeper voice like Japanese Choji.
@lilveltheplayer2164
@lilveltheplayer2164 9 ай бұрын
Akainu was also trying to go after Luffy even though Ace was right in front of him
@Mbcwbcuio
@Mbcwbcuio 9 ай бұрын
I thought of another theory while rewatching the series, when Dr Hiriluk was killed 8 years ago, he stated that his experiments had been running for 30 years, and his story about healing the heart of someone (which ended up being himself, a master thief, whereby his heart was healed 30 years ago by cherry blossoms, at which time 30 years ago god valley was occuring). What if god valley has cherry blossom trees, which healed Dr Hiriluk, a slave from his broken heart from being a slave. Then he was sent away from the island to Drum Island and forever was trying to recreate the cherry blossoms which healed his heart 30 years ago (38 now, the year of god valley). Maybe this is why his view of pirates is so positive, as the pirates liberated god valley somewhat.
@TheUchi1991
@TheUchi1991 9 ай бұрын
While he got cured by something in the west (god valley is in the west blue, so that checks out), i don't recall a specific year. Can you point me to the chapter please?
@thomassmith7020
@thomassmith7020 9 ай бұрын
I would imagine that Garp would adopt Koby as his grandson in a similar way he did with Ace. Sure, Ace didn’t take the last name; but, we saw at Marineford and in Impel Down that Garp knew Ace as his grandson and Luffy’s brother. It wouldn’t be 1-to-1 since Garp probably wouldn’t force Koby to be Luffy’s brother. Although, I can see Luffy just accepting that he is and then Sabo just plays along, but much more regrettable or like a meaner step brother; so, now there are 3 brothers again: a pirate, a revolutionary, and a marine.
@joshclontz1306
@joshclontz1306 9 ай бұрын
I have a hunch that’s dragon was at least a captain or involved in a special program like a CP agent or sword. He is the most wanted man in the world for a reason and I think that is because he knows a fair amount about the inner workings of the world gov. even before leaving.
@gigiperih
@gigiperih 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate how technology is interwoven into this arc. From the beginning, we knew that Kuma was closely linked to cloning technology.
@ZzigZaG00NIN
@ZzigZaG00NIN 9 ай бұрын
Pandaman is really everywhere If he ever has something to do with the story it would be so crazy with everything he got to experience
@agentofsocialmediachaos6712
@agentofsocialmediachaos6712 9 ай бұрын
X Drake was a Rear Admiral before he joined SWORD and started pretending to be a pirate and he's in his early 30s so Dragon being a Rear Admiral or Vice Admiral when he left the Marines is actually a very real possibility
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 9 ай бұрын
Makes no sense for Dragon to be an admiral when even Garp didn't want to be one
@agentofsocialmediachaos6712
@agentofsocialmediachaos6712 9 ай бұрын
@davidortiz3094 Garp was a Vice Admiral which is the rank immediately under Admiral. He didn't want to be promoted from Vice Admiral to Admiral. Rear Admiral is the rank immediately under Vice Admiral. Dragon being the same rank as Garp(Vice Admiral) or the rank immediately below Garp(Rear Admiral) actually does make sense.
@softhaus4485
@softhaus4485 9 ай бұрын
I mean Dragon could powerwise be an admiral since how fast luffy climbed the hierarchy. Although it doesn't really fit in the story that he was an admiral, vice-admiral is really reasonable. Luffy went from captain level to yonko level in 2 years and 6 months. not a problem
@agentofsocialmediachaos6712
@agentofsocialmediachaos6712 9 ай бұрын
@softhaus4485 Yep Dragon could have been a Vice Admiral like Garp or a Rear Admiral like X Drake but he could not have been an Admiral.
@magotheguy173
@magotheguy173 9 ай бұрын
Dragon could have been a vice admiral with Akainu and Kizaru before Aokiji
@seunglee6990
@seunglee6990 7 ай бұрын
Coming from the future, the Ginny section is hilariously sad
@Martin-yh7vi
@Martin-yh7vi 9 ай бұрын
Dragon probably quickly abandoned the idea of going up the ranks to change the marines after talking to Garp kinda like how Garp explained it to Koby in the Live Action. Though Koby is a bit more optimistic while Dragon immediately knew going up don't mean shit specially since his Dad couldn't do anything either knowing at that point Garp could have been higher ranked marine.
@kamikaze.33
@kamikaze.33 9 ай бұрын
As sadistic as Oda can be with his characters, not even Oda would hurt Kuma by having the love of his life and his hero that he idolizes betray him like that! I'm sorry but I can't find it anywhere inside me to believe even a tiny bit that Oda would write Ginny to be such a harlot or to have Dragon betray his friend like that. I think it's a nice theory for the laughs and what-if fanfics, but Oda is not the type to write something as wrong as that..
@earthisadonut7213
@earthisadonut7213 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, Dragon is very calculated and wouldn't even think about it when drunk.
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 9 ай бұрын
Bonny and Luffy being siblings would be wild af
@vitormanuelfernandes5353
@vitormanuelfernandes5353 9 ай бұрын
Ivancok would have known that luffy existed if ginny was his mom, but in canon ivan got surprised so luffys mom is someone else
@sigma723
@sigma723 9 ай бұрын
in all fairness it may not be a matter of betrayal kuma not wanting the buccaneer blood to continue may have given his up most approval of jinny having a partner not wanting her to put her romantic life on hold for him
@Wigbot3000
@Wigbot3000 9 ай бұрын
What if Luffy is "Dragon's" son? Kuma and Ginny could have had two kids. If only Luffy has Buccaneer blood that would be reason enough to keep it from even Ivankov. Then Bonney doesn't have it for some reason so that can just be Kuma's daughter. Not sure why Luffy isn't huge except maybe his devil fruit? It's a reach but they might just be straight up siblings.
@nikolausswihart6312
@nikolausswihart6312 9 ай бұрын
I personally think orouge is being saved for when the sky becomes more relevent. The mother flame emerging out of the White Sea will be important later
@sknuchy980
@sknuchy980 9 ай бұрын
Dont the people with ginny in the last chapter before she was captured say something like "kuma won the heart of the girl we all desire" ? So i dont think she is luffys mum based on that. Would be hardbreaking for kuma that her love interest, who also loves him, would conceive a child, which is not his imo.
@diegoaraya6560
@diegoaraya6560 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the old people also stated that before on the chapter, so it would fit that Ginny really doesnt want enyone but Kuma, and i highly doubt she would be able to face him again if there was some kind of betray
@stormstrider1990
@stormstrider1990 9 ай бұрын
The way the Revolutionary Army started as a small group of freedom fighters is very similar to the rebellion in Star Wars. There were many ragtag rebel groups throughout the galaxy, that ultimately joined the Rebel Alliance under Mon Mothma and Bail Organa.
@sGzBugz
@sGzBugz 9 ай бұрын
I think some OP fans being surprised Dragon is revealed to be a former Marine is crazier than this super reach theory of Ginny being Dragon’s and Kuma’s baby momma lol I would believe Bonnie is just Ginny with the Age Age Fruit and no memories that was somehow recused and raised by Kuma more than the multiple baby daddies theory lol
@someboi3085
@someboi3085 9 ай бұрын
I say Bonnie is a clone because she was used to being around Vegapunk as a child and it could explain a reason as to why Kuma gave himself to the government
@NavyBlueSuicune
@NavyBlueSuicune 9 ай бұрын
We definitely need more info on Dragon and Shanks. Dragon becoming disillusioned by the Navy and going his own way makes sense, when you remember that Garp is Dragon's dad.
@Neos4500
@Neos4500 9 ай бұрын
It still doesn'take sense how Ivankov didn't know Luffy is Dragons son. They had newspapers in Newkama Land, so he should've at least read about Enies Lobby and the moment he reads Luffys name, it should've clicked. Unless he didn't know Dragons full name for all these years.
@braydenjones1225
@braydenjones1225 9 ай бұрын
Ivankoov was impel down down for a while waiting for dragon to strike but he never did but Luffy did 😂 I’m guessing he was in jail during time of enies lobby
@animefan77
@animefan77 9 ай бұрын
20:11- I have arguments agains that theory- even if Oda likes to say that she doesn't matter if she shows up because it's more important for Luffy to focus on his adventures than his mom- with Oda having a tendency to troll his fanbase. Besides Ginny is more important to Kuma and Bonney's story- it would be odd that this flashback character would be given added prominence of being Luffy's mom before being killed and the focus is back on Kuma and Bonney- with Luffy's birth being sort of an afterthought. While it's easy to assume that like Roger's situation with Rouge- Ace's mom- at least until we get some more important lore dump that changes our perception of Rouge, she's just some random woman in the East Blue who happened to be a D-Clan member that died in a manner to motivate Dragon even further and entrust the future to Luffy- that would trending on Rouge elements too closely and that would be a bit too easy. Her identity at this point of the series would be something that would be heavily connected to the big mysteries of the world- whether it be another Toki situation somehow with the mother being from the Void Century through Void Century tech shennagains- being the daughter of Joyboy as the big shocker. Being a clone of someone notable in the Void Century to then hook up with Dragon to have Luffy. Or the more likely answer being that she's Xebec's daughter- with Xebec being Joyboy's direct descendant, but has some crazy backstory that would justify Dragon and her meeting up- with no one talking about her. The less likely is Imu (if she's a woman) being Luffy's mom with a whole uncomfortable Ragyo repeat- given that Dragon was as shocked by Imu's existence as Ivankov- if Dragon had previous connections like that, he'd bring it up. Or any kind of World Noble, which he would've brought it up by now.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 9 ай бұрын
I wonder what dragon saw? So many things we see the marines do that could make the list. The pregnant woman hunts. Slavery. The high hold tributes. God valley situations. So many things but I feel he probably saw something worse
@patrickzalatoris3206
@patrickzalatoris3206 9 ай бұрын
Feel it's gotta be something celestial dragon related, no matter what fucked up.shit we see them do every appearance, they just go beyond every single time
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 9 ай бұрын
@@patrickzalatoris3206 can't be imu as dragon didn't know. Probably getting buster call to innocent island. The other races being slain. The list can go on as he did say he saw no justice in the marines
@Jakehatred666
@Jakehatred666 9 ай бұрын
Hed have to surely have been a high enough rank that he dealt with or was in proximity of Celestial Dragons which would lead to his departure and lead him down the Revolutionary Path.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 9 ай бұрын
@@Jakehatred666 my guess is a celestial dragon being dumb and calling for an admiral to destroy an island of innocent people. Can't be something vegapunk made as that's recent stuff.
@Thatissojordy777
@Thatissojordy777 9 ай бұрын
Gotta be Celestial related but also Nakama related. Ive always wondered what it would take for luffy to be more edgy like dragon and i think losing the strawhats early on but deciding to keep going would do it. Something tragic like that
@TheWish80
@TheWish80 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! I always enjoy watching your videos! This was fun to watch!
@rosariocervo8646
@rosariocervo8646 9 ай бұрын
It seems that Tekking is prepared to die on that hill for his ideas, hope Ginny won't face the same fate
@monkeydgarp9663
@monkeydgarp9663 9 ай бұрын
Bonnie is probably a clone of Ginny, and she’s a lot younger than she appears to be. When they rescued her from the ocean she was a child, and vegapunk keeps referring to her as if she’s a small child.
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 8 ай бұрын
Well you were right but so wrong
@monkeydgarp9663
@monkeydgarp9663 8 ай бұрын
@@eavyeavy2864 yeah I was, I never could have imagined that Ginny would have been taken by the celestial dragons and forced to be one of their wives. But oda is the master of foreshadowing, he set this up all the way back in sabaody when Bonney stopped Zoro from killing the celestial dragon
@keepwishin99
@keepwishin99 9 ай бұрын
the way i was just looking for a new vid to watch while i eat but there werent any and now you posted when ive already finished 😂
@haydonali4169
@haydonali4169 9 ай бұрын
your stuff always slaps Tekko, keep it comin boss :)
@johnnypollack3243
@johnnypollack3243 9 ай бұрын
Keep up the awesome work and videos tekking love the video
@Demongunner7
@Demongunner7 9 ай бұрын
If it means anything, I suggested that Ginny could be Luffy and Bonney's mother back when Tekking did his chapter review. But yeah, something is up with Bonney as she never mentioned her mother ever. Her being a clone is a strong possibility.
@codymorgan2791
@codymorgan2791 9 ай бұрын
Personally I think she's not Bonnie's mom, she is Bonnie. Kuma raised her after she was regressed in age after whatever happened in this incident and that's when Kuma becomes the tyrant
@yohampeguero3834
@yohampeguero3834 9 ай бұрын
I think Ginny died and Bonnie is a clone that’s why she remembers being on Egghead when she was young. Maybe Vegapunk had Kuma bring her back for checkups or something.
@HayYah56
@HayYah56 9 ай бұрын
So really, Bonnie is Luffys mom
@yohampeguero3834
@yohampeguero3834 9 ай бұрын
@@HayYah56 I don’t think so, she is head over heels for kuma. It makes no sense for her to be Luffy’s mom, at least to me.
@eliaspanayi3465
@eliaspanayi3465 9 ай бұрын
​@timtim3443 that would be insane
@timdoe8895
@timdoe8895 9 ай бұрын
​@@HayYah56Thats dumb as hell
@ishmel11
@ishmel11 9 ай бұрын
Here's the thing everybody do be forgetting. Bonney was a kid in the sea water and only after they made it back out of the sea water did she end up being an adult again. The flashback has most likely not gotten to her being born yet, since she's theoretically still a kid.
@An0mvly
@An0mvly 9 ай бұрын
Whenever I see a trekking video that isn't around 50 mins at least my soul cries 😢
@KingdomH342
@KingdomH342 9 ай бұрын
I'm surprised no one has brought this up, immediately jumping to the outlandish like clones or night of passion between Ginny and Dragon, but i think theirs a much simpler solution, Bonney was NOT born till AFTER Ginny was rescued by Kuma (is there any doubt its going to happen) and has been using her Devil fruit to appear as a young adult. That is what i thought of when i first read the chapter, and if you think about it it still fits. Bonney remembers her father as a king, which clearly has not happened during any point in the flashback, back when she was a little girl. Add to the fact that it hasn't been directly stated how long Vegapunk had been managing Egghead (i checked) and the events still line up. Granted this would make her younger than the entire active cast, but that also fits when you consider that everyone who knows of Bonney before she was a pirate calls her a little girl and things just line up. Now I could be wrong, but until the next chapter comes out theirs no way to tell for sure. And for anyone who would say theirs not enough drama or what not in this line of thinking msy i remind you BONNEY WOULD HAVE BEEN 12-14 WHEN SHE LOST HER FATHER if this idea is true. Just getting my thoughts out their.
@naviro6672
@naviro6672 9 ай бұрын
And in addition to all of this... Bonny appears as a litteral child and not an adult when she is rescued out of the water...
@kamikaze.33
@kamikaze.33 9 ай бұрын
@@naviro6672 to add to this, I'm surprised no one mentions the same thing happened in the movie Stampede too! Like, everyone talks about when we first meet her in the whirlpool or whatever right before Egghead, but in the movie Stampede, when the floating island gets destroyed and everyone falls in the water, when they show her getting rescued out of the water, she's also a little girl in that scene too! And I know One Piece movies aren't considered canon usually. But Stampede is kind of special. For one, we know Oda was heavily involved in that movie. And two, it's actually when we first learned the true name of the final island was Laugh Tale and not Raftel, which was a very significant thing to add in a movie before putting that in the anime. Also of note, that movie came out in 2019, so well before the Egghead arc ever started, but not so long ago that Oda wouldn't have had a solid idea for how the final saga would go. I'm sure the director of Stampede was given details on how each of the characters were to be portrayed in that movie and I'm willing to bet a lot that Oda told them specifically to draw Bonney as a child when she emerges from the water!
@kerwinhinds
@kerwinhinds 9 ай бұрын
This is the first time I get to post a msg on tekking videos as the 1st person . Great vid as always
@michaelestival9875
@michaelestival9875 9 ай бұрын
Timeline-wise, I guess the Ginny is Luffy's mom theory makes some sense. But, I just don't see Oda doing that. Oda doesn't write a lot about romance or motherhood in general. But when he does those women are usually pretty devoted. And almost unnaturally pure. I just don't see Ginny ending up with a secret child that she's hiding from her childhood love. That's just a little too much of the drama that Oda tends to avoid. I mean, I GUESS Big Mom got around. But, she's also a villain. And she's still a actually pretty devoted mom, even if she is insane. For this to really work, Ginny would have to basically abandon Luffy. Ginny would have to be a worse mother than Big Mom, let that sink in. Mind, that's IF she hid Luffy while she was raising Bonney with Kuma and she wasn't dead and/or de-aged to a child and became Bonney, but...yeah, I don't think that scenario is going to play out. Plus, I'm not sure what Luffy ending up with a sister actually adds to the story. I mean...it could be anything, I guess. But, it would be...weird, to say the least. I can't say it's impossible, but I don't think it's likely.
@vitormanuelfernandes5353
@vitormanuelfernandes5353 9 ай бұрын
Ivancok would have known that luffy existed if ginny was his mom, but in canon ivan got surprised so luffys mom is someone else
@drnemo4820
@drnemo4820 9 ай бұрын
My headcanon is Luffys mom was a part of the navy with dragon and Akinu and something terrible happened to her because of the world government which lead dragon to becoming a revolutionary. Bonney was probably born offscreen and her placement will be shown next chapter.
@michaelchampagne3364
@michaelchampagne3364 8 ай бұрын
Bahaha you are the best, tekking. That outro had me rolling.
@rimuru2343
@rimuru2343 9 ай бұрын
7 seconds and tekking already had 2.9k likes. LETS GOO!
@adolforamos9518
@adolforamos9518 9 ай бұрын
i think tekking has put so much in his mind the idea that bonney is 20 something years old that he is willingly ignoring every single clue given that she is actually way younger than she let anyone see
@expresso8428
@expresso8428 9 ай бұрын
Gotta love the late night tekking uploads
@Tyrian3k
@Tyrian3k 9 ай бұрын
One character to consider for Bonney's identity is also the queen dowager she impersonated during the reverie. Who exactly is that? Kuma and Ginny don't have relatives in Sorbet, right?
@dneennen
@dneennen 9 ай бұрын
We need to look back at cover stories that may actually be Extremly important...like "Gedatsu's Accidental Blue-Sea Life!"
@ProjectIceman
@ProjectIceman 9 ай бұрын
Bonny might be a Edward Weevil situation. Artificially made between the DNA of Kuma and Ginny
@jalengaskin8450
@jalengaskin8450 9 ай бұрын
16:47 Freckin’ Egg head is making everyone skeptical about cloning. It’s madness
@ikhlasulamal8067
@ikhlasulamal8067 9 ай бұрын
I don't think oda Will hurt kuma even more with his his love to be taken by his best friend.i don't think dragon betrays kuma his best friend. And iam sorry i can't see oda writes Ginny to be that kind of woman,even in the flashback she Still loves kuma and want to see him
@thecrazycapmaster
@thecrazycapmaster 9 ай бұрын
25:25 to expand on this idea, perhaps after Ginny knew she was having a baby, Dragon could’ve decided to move her to the East Blue- the “weakest” ocean, where she could keep contributing to the Revolutionaries (who are obviously too under-staffed to allow for proper maternity leave 😅), but would be much less likely to encounter a major threat she couldn’t handle. He may have also been aware of Garp’s presence there and believed that he’d look after her (which he might’ve done until after Luffy’s birth, at which point Dragon decided to leave her there for the time being as she wasn’t critically needed elsewhere).
@Cloudhead0
@Cloudhead0 9 ай бұрын
WOW! No! I find it hard to beleive that Ginny and Dragon would stab Kuma in the back like that! Hell no! but I do agree that not mentionning Bonny's birth at all in the flash back would be so so weird, so my guess is either she is a clone (likely), or Bonny is Ginny, or maybe Ginny is pregnant with her when she was abducted (depends on how long her and Kuma were separated, but it's one peice!) or maybe Bonny is so much younger than we expected and the flash back isn't finished yet! Also, a question that resurfaced when talking about Luffy's mom is : why did Dragon leave Luffy with Garp in the first place!? did Garp know who she was? The fact that Luffy was left with Garp suggests that something happened with her!
@Frosty_McFrost05
@Frosty_McFrost05 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah she's defiantly dead
@undecidedopinions1188
@undecidedopinions1188 9 ай бұрын
Damn it’s rare to get a tekking video so late 😂
@stereokuuji
@stereokuuji 9 ай бұрын
0:01 Rare footage of Tekking plotting to bamboozle us for the next 29 minutes 😂
@credibility2869
@credibility2869 9 ай бұрын
Kuma could have asked Dragon to give Ginny babies because he couldnt be responsible for giving her babies and having them hunted by the World Government It could be an even crazier twist where Bonney and Luffy are twins and to prevent them from being hunted, Dragon pretended to be Luffys dad and just gave Luffy to Garp to protect him, that would also explan why Garp „slipped“ up mentioning Luffys dad, because he wanted witnesses to him saying it so no one would question it eventually That would also enhance the whole D thing if Luffy didnt have the will of D by blood but simply because thats who he is, also explaining why the Nika devil fruit chose him
@matthewbeniamin4834
@matthewbeniamin4834 9 ай бұрын
Thats makes a lot of sense
@SwedishDuckey
@SwedishDuckey 9 ай бұрын
Man's really want Ginny to be Luffys mom to an extent it's kinda amusing. Definitely one of the hills to die on of all time
@kura4674
@kura4674 9 ай бұрын
Phew. I just got home from Six Flags and I have a tekking video to wind down with? Epic.
@weedomqq2136
@weedomqq2136 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video :)
@crimsonweeb
@crimsonweeb 9 ай бұрын
Was just thinking about needing a Tekking Video
@AnyMEmdq
@AnyMEmdq 9 ай бұрын
23:43 I will say it again, if Ginny is Bonney's mom, how TF does Connie, clearly blood related to Bonney, end up as Queen Dowager of Sorbet Kingdom, and where is she. Is she Ginny's mother? Would make sense, but how did she end up in Sorbet?
@spencer5175
@spencer5175 9 ай бұрын
When you do subtitles, it always transcribes GARP in all caps and I wouldn't want it any other way.
@blablableep6811
@blablableep6811 9 ай бұрын
Seem appropriate ngl
@gabrielmarval2380
@gabrielmarval2380 9 ай бұрын
1:15 monologue should be a short, it is so hilarious
@max60richy
@max60richy 8 ай бұрын
This did not age well with the knowledge I have now
@bellicomedy
@bellicomedy 9 ай бұрын
this video is exactly why i am subscribed.
@jamiahpayton498
@jamiahpayton498 9 ай бұрын
Keep doing your thing been a fan since the first sbs review
@nick5839
@nick5839 9 ай бұрын
Tekking, another possibility is that Ginny could be in fact the same person as Bonney. What if Ginny ate the age age fruit at one point in time, somehow mastered it/awakened it, and then she and kuma encountered something so traumatic that kuma took out Ginny’s memories using his devil fruit abilities.
@DirtCheapFU
@DirtCheapFU 9 ай бұрын
1:30 Kuma, "Whose playing the ominous music?". Ivankov, "That's just his devil fruit ability". Kuma, "Oh. Like the King Engine".
@Zendae._
@Zendae._ 8 ай бұрын
bro was NOT cookin lmao
@yannisdekonoha
@yannisdekonoha 8 ай бұрын
"Ginny is luffy's mom!" Well, that didn't aged well
@makepr
@makepr 9 ай бұрын
Thing came to my mind. Bonnie cannot be ginny because we saw her bare back. There was no celestial hoof. Ofc ivankov couldve possibly fixed it but. Theres no scars at all in bonnies back that would indicate hoof of the dragon was fixed.
@Captain_Magikarp
@Captain_Magikarp 9 ай бұрын
That would make coby a monkeys uncle.
@weathermangohanssj4
@weathermangohanssj4 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty sure Bonney is Ginny's clone because Kuma is from the special people not her.
@picklecat2330
@picklecat2330 9 ай бұрын
How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man!
@azeragaming
@azeragaming 9 ай бұрын
Ginny and Dragon dosent strike me of the '' lets get married cuz koma rejected you "", they might've tried to make koma on ease with his past more than get it togther and having luffy
@bonegaming6760
@bonegaming6760 9 ай бұрын
was not ready for the heart shaped guy and laughed for far too long at his face xD
@zaczane
@zaczane 9 ай бұрын
Gives a lot more context to why smoker didn’t even try to fight back in Lougtown
@sirrogerjalbert
@sirrogerjalbert 9 ай бұрын
Garp eats a lot too. I also don't think oda would do that to kuma. I think ginny dies before bonny is born and vegapunk makes a clone of her Edit: oda did our boy dirty
@Marpaws
@Marpaws 9 ай бұрын
great video
@Archer_-dw8xp
@Archer_-dw8xp 9 ай бұрын
The one thing that made me think that maybe the whole Ginny Kuma situation might be a way to misleading us is that Ginny had a shirt on that had „sister“ written on it which would be a very subtle way to hint at Kuma and Ginny’s relationship to become more of a sibling type situation. Then again that could also just be a reference to like the „sisters“ in church since kuma was a pastor at the time.
@neroalexander4680
@neroalexander4680 9 ай бұрын
The guy in the picture right above dobberman and next to the guy who was " mariens" inked over is lower jaw looks like dragon.
@RidKain
@RidKain 9 ай бұрын
Now that I'm thinking about it, when she showed up as "The queen dowager of the Sorbet kingdom" that title could have been just a total lie that she used to get passed the guards
@Nik-GW2
@Nik-GW2 9 ай бұрын
What if Bonney and Luffy are both of Dragon and Ginnys childs ? Than some Star Wars Luke and Leya shit happend, Kuma took Bonny ( like Bale Leya) and Luffy ( Luke ) got dumped somewhere in the montains ( desert) . Kuma probably took Bonney cause she reminded her of Ginny ( which should be dead at this point ?). Luffy and Bonny being siblings would also fit well for her being one of the persons that luffy remembers the name of.
@mtk064
@mtk064 9 ай бұрын
If the pain rejected from the paw fruit must return to the original person if left unchecked. one would think that would also eventually happen with the rejected memories. But I guess the room they locked in must have been sea stone lined.
@vianabdullah2837
@vianabdullah2837 9 ай бұрын
You didn't have to do Kuma dirty like that. I think Dragon would respect one of his best friend's girl
@patriciocarrasco7641
@patriciocarrasco7641 9 ай бұрын
You had the perfect chance to call Ace the Prince of the pirates man
@bledekdicky1202
@bledekdicky1202 8 ай бұрын
Kuzan (49) became Vice Admiral at the age of 27 and maybe even younger, Robin's flashback 22 years ago
@williamfletcher7623
@williamfletcher7623 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I think you may be right about the potential Bonney and Luffy situation, if I remember correctly Bonney said that her dad is a special race and not something like "me and my dad are of a special race". so she could be luffys half sister or a clone of his mom, if that is Ginny. Also if dragon and Ginny did do it and have luffy dragon could have just said that he knows a special place to keep the new-born Luffy safe which is with his dad and Dadan in the east blue. But then a question arises of why would this be important? would this be a way of keeping Bonney relevant post egghead? (hope it does) I couldn't see Oda doing all this just for some sort of gag moment where Luffy and Bonney's and everyone else's eyes pop out of their head in surprise if this is what Oda's doing. the potential is really interesting!
@Frosty_McFrost05
@Frosty_McFrost05 9 ай бұрын
I doubt that's the case. Ginny has stated that she is only interested in Kuma. I highly doubt that she's betray Kuma like that. Same goes for Dragon. He doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would sleep with his friend's love interest.
@doronrosstuvia3489
@doronrosstuvia3489 9 ай бұрын
One of the reasons I love making Bonney a half-sister of Luffy is because Oda does tend to use his movies as blueprints for future stories and Bonnie could be a sort of parallel to Uta.
@mateja7281
@mateja7281 3 ай бұрын
Love ur Dragon imppretion!!!!
@firefistluffy4607
@firefistluffy4607 9 ай бұрын
Maybe dragon left the marines when he read about garp the hero knowing that wasn’t what really happened and saw that the world government hid god valley and made garp a “Hero”
@TheoMos22
@TheoMos22 4 ай бұрын
Nice video even tho we learned what happened, still I love how your mind works and your ideas
@matthewneufeld8854
@matthewneufeld8854 9 ай бұрын
Never actually understood why you'd think Luffy being a marine if you dump him on a island with ace. Of course he's going to be a pirate.
@ButtercoreFTW
@ButtercoreFTW 9 ай бұрын
im pretty sure that oda mentioned in an sbs that he drew luffies mom already in the manga, waaay before ginny ever shows up
@jorgitosilva
@jorgitosilva 9 ай бұрын
Don chinjao, vegapunk and strawberry had changed their head shapes so... it is not implausible...
@projectembrace
@projectembrace 9 ай бұрын
I could see where GARP ideas left an impression of Justice on dragon and where dragon might have joined the Marines in order to pursue that Justice only to realize how corrupt it was
@liamkelly1156
@liamkelly1156 9 ай бұрын
Akainu seemed almost depressed at ohara maybe it was because he felt betrayed by dragon
@thethiccwarrior6675
@thethiccwarrior6675 9 ай бұрын
It’s so strange, seeing a video, and without an animal fact, after years of it
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