I was like "I can't wait for Viviana and Degenbrecher to be playable!" back in the day, and the lamb is raw with one while the fucking kitchen on fire with the other 😂

I hope you never lose your passion for arknights, great video btw

Wait HG outstanding move for giving her Trash module and give Surtr God tier module instead

Her delta module will save her bros trust the plan

poor girl deserved way better stuff but still she will remain a queen

Dont worry about being late, you genuinely make the most highest quality content in the global sphere so its no issue 💯

I would absolutely love if you could put those 6* welfares next time. They aren't "pull" priorities, but for some stacked units like CE she absolutely deserves a review, and impact rating to incentivize people to build her.

At least shes drippy

Fair review! Something you missed I want to point out, but pretty much everyone else missed that too, is the defensive part of her Talent 1. From how I understand it, it's multiplicative and should scale multiplicatively with Sanctuary, so if you use for example Quercus with her, the 16% Sanctuary end up at 30% damage reduction against Elites. Quercus' and her Skill Cycles don't exactly line up and you maybe have to use another healer depending on enemy, but with this interaction her survivability with Abjurer Supports is incredibly good.

Her banner already ended... literal hindsight... (DGJY is busy I know but it's still funny)

Vivi has a really narrow niche. Lane that spews elite enemies at her at intervals that coincide with her skill uptimes. It's not exactly common but i can think of a few possible lanes like that of the top of my head, including some previous contingency contract main stages and some maps in IS#4. You could argue that texas alter can deal with those lanes similarly well or better than her while also offering flexibility of being a fast redeploy and while that's probably true, texas alter is kind of an outlier, or at least she used to be... More and more of the recent ops are just kinda fucked in terms of balance and that just makes many other ops look dogshit in comparison. I don't even want to talk about walter and what her existence is going to do to level and boss design in the future. I like Vivi and will use her and hope for a good module, 3 stacks on shield and some res ignore hopefully, but the current direction with balance is making me a little sad.

7:08 It would be better to put a "cumulative" probability on the right here imo; you probably don't need the individual probabilities at all, though, no harm in putting more info. I think it'd be more handy to see that "Oh, she has a 8.6% chance of not getting the ATK SPD bonus by the 12th attack"

If she had multiple Shields, 3 like Nian and Mudrock, and the Shields gave her either SP or reduced the Res of the enemy that breaks the Shield by 10% to 20% she would be so much better, even with the melee only restriction. I don't get why HG gave her such a bad Shield mechanic, other units get to have multiple layers of Shield with Shield breaks giving some bonus, why can't Viviana have that

Really hope HG pull a Lin move and gives her an amazing module. It's really sad to see long awaited NPC to be as niche as her. And she's not even that unique at her niche.

Always a good day when dragon uploads

Another synergy I can think of is with Quercus's S2 or Saria, who will not only help keep her alive during downtime, but also charge her skill faster.

Astesia powercreep on 2024, if you think about it thats bad, and bosskilling stuff makes her compete with freaking Surtr

I tried using her and give her Roberta's make up machine to simulate "IF" her talent able to block ranged+stacks and it was much more comfortable to use. Couldn't agree more on that 0.5 talent, it's so true Her defensive is picky. Elites ranged are common in any stages and content. She's like 5.5 star. To be frank her kit is half-assed. Still using her tho, it's HG faults not her.

first time on the channel, insanely intricate analysis, if i had to point something i find lacking is the "team role", like, yeah, it is a problem that she has 1 block and that can lead to leaks, but with a tank like shu behind her,things change very drastically, other than that nitpick, insane production value, looking forward to more!

The problem isn’t that she’s bad, just look at lessing. The problem is that she should’ve been better. She’s added onto a list of now 3 ‘non-limited on limited banner’ ops. These kinds of operators, while more common than their limited counterparts, they don’t have rerun rate ups like other operators, and have to share their rate up with said limited op. It takes more effort to get them and you end up with the embodiment of mediocrity. Also like hoolheyak, she was a character people have been looking forward to as they’ve featured in previous events. Unfortunately they’re both mid.

Reminder Vivian+Ifrit still have better dps than Surtr+Ifrit up to 74 res boss/elite. She is not a bad operator, just hard to use.

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Your pull recommendations have been spot on for me. Same with the IS guides. Reed Alter is MVP especially for ending 1 in IS#4.

I think Viviana's kit is not about using the skill asap but rather prolonging the fight for a bit then use her skills when her HP is about critical level. Also Warfarin and Aak too would greatly boost her performance although the application of Aak's S3 is during her shield proc phase than using it as initiation/prior to activating the skills.

hi! i really love your operator hindsight series. thank you for helping us analyze. i really like the section where you explain the synergy of this operator with others, how you lay out the pros and cons of her skills, your rating in comparison with other upcoming banners, and her score on daily and niche. please consider this as a positive feedback on what you do. you are doing great. thank you.

thx as always for the video

11:23 seriously, why does AK *dedicated* ST DMG-Dealers (mostly melee) has lower or at most the same damage potential as multi-target DMG-Dealer *ON A SINGLE TARGET* This is also one of the reason most *dedicated* AoE (especially AoE casters) not that good.

Thank you very much for these hindsight videos, they're extremely informative and interesting!

Highest quality operator hinsight, as always. A big thank you for your hard work!

I like your Hindsight video series very much, Mr. Dragon 😊 thank you ❤

Great analysis as always

I love operator insight 😊

thank you very much for your work on this very good guide !

Bro cooking again🔥🔥🔥🔥

I mean to be fair, she can get better with modules, or not much can change. I will say I was surprised by Ho'oleyak's module making her a very decent support, so who knows maybe Viv will get the arts shred she needs or get the Mudrock treatment and have shields up for everything or potentially will get a small number boost to her passive.

I don't even have Vivialter and I still watched the whole thing. your videos are always top quality

The only beef i have with Vivi's kit is why the hell she has only 20% to create a shield, it isnt reliable at all

my theory is, Her future module would improve her shield like thorn that can be stacked or maybe some sp recovery

Great video as always

Because modules always buff Talents rather than skills, hopefully she can get stacking shields, guaranteed shields, or remove the melee restriction. Best case, they remove the restrictions on talents so she can be easier to use.

My honest issue with Viviana Skill 3 is that it's a design conflict. It's wonderful for dueling. When active. Place Vivi somewhere you can guarantee it being up by then, and you can almost forget her. Outside of needing to activate her Skill, of course. Barring that, you need someone else to cover for her Off-Skill time. With her Priority and extra Range, it becomes extremely tempting to actually place her behind. Having someone behind her instead avoids that obvious problem, sure, but then you need some other way to filter the common enemies that would otherwise take priority while blocked by her. It's a very awkward position for a unit that is plagued by stark differences with or without active skill. But in an ideal environment or possibly even behind another operator and she works well enough. Maybe even amazingly. I just don't know if either are worth the investment. I am still tempted to raise her for S2 alone because she fills the niche of a defensive laneholder with solid enough Arts damage that is absent without a dedicated 6* Arts Defender.

if only they make her S3 infinite like thorns and Typhon she would be significantly way better

I think the single worst thing about her is requiring a warmup cycle for her S3. It's not like it's an infinite duration skill, just let it be good on the first use!

awesome vid, thanksss

Honestly it wouldn't have killed HG to give her s3 infinite duration after 2nd use, preferably with some additional res ignore on top. By today's standards it wouldn't even be that great, but at least she could've become a good and usable unit with clear niche. But instead we got what we got... Well, at least i'm happy that i got Arturia first and not Vivi.

Ohh he finally gave a 10. I didn't know he already gave a 10 to Ines though. That's cool

Thanks you sensei!

Viviana got the same treatment as santalla. When they think shield is too op for a damage dealer that they give a lot of limitation it base on chances on attack, 1 stack and worst of all melee only, I swear if they remove this limitation on her that it has 2 stack higher chances and also block range attack Its not even worth it. Ifthe one that is lacking is her damage. I would rather have Physical and Arts dodge on her 1st talent and Crit attack than Increase attack and less damage taken.

Amazing content

dont worry about being 'late', it doesnt have to be on such a tight schedule, i dont think viewers have to get these guides ASAP or anything

Boy, I need justice for Candle Knight-chan 😭😭 please make good module for her

Here is one possible synergy: Viviana + Degenbrecher, the disarm skill makes enemies attack very slowly, giving Viviana time to refresh her shield.

but Words fail to describe her beauty

Great, clear and well presented info. Where would the Reed alter rerun rank in pull priority? Thanks for the video👍

Poor Viviana... her kit has too many restrictions and her skills also somehow have counter synergy with her talent. from the video we got: 1. She only gain bonus from talent 1 when against boss 2. She only gain shield if she hits boss 3. The shield cannot be stacked 4. The shield only blocks melee attack 5. S2 gain increased block count makes her shield wear down easily against multiple mob enemies who can unintentionally got blocked by her. 6. S2 need some hit to gain full aspd 7. S3 needs 2nd activation to be potent 8. S3 increases her attack interval somehow even though she needs attack speed to activate her talent. 9. Low skill duration. 10. Lacking any resistance shredding makes her damage fall against high resistance enemies (more than 16). Sadly the bosses that she is trying to duel usually has this high resistance stats. tell me another operator that has this many restrictions. i bet its only her. Even Amiya doesn't have this many restrictions on her.... conclusion: She is trying to be good offensively and defensively like any other art guards but becomes not good at both because of all the restrictions she has.

Logos being 8 and 8 feels much more deserved than the rating in earlier video. Logos is really busted.

OH GOD OH GOD AMBASING

Hitting the nail on the head with this one.

It feels like they were way too afraid of releasing a 2nd Surtr and gave her a bunch of restrictions that do not make much sense. 1. S3 is good on 2nd activation but still nothing overpowered. So why then don't we just get it immediately? Why do we need 2 activations? Random restriction 2. Talent 1 can only fully activate against elite/bosses. Why not for normal mobs too? Is it overpowered to have it be good against mobs too? Aren't mobs supposed to be weaker anyway? Random restriction 3. Why make the shield melee only when there are elite/bosses that don't even have a melee attack? 4. Why make S2 chance based and also cap the ASPD steal to proc only 1 time? You would think only 1 of the 2 restrictions would be necessary to balance this skill, not both.

aight, hear me out... :'v - Talent 1 ModX : All Elafia Ops deals +12%/13% and takes -12%/13% Physical and Arts damage. Double the effect on self if there is an elite or boss enemy on the field. - Talent 2 ModY : When attacking elite or boss enemy, has a 23%/25% chance to gain a Shield that only blocks melee attacks (max 3 stacks). When a Shield is destroyed, deal % Arts explosion to the surrounding 4 tiles, if a Shield is destroyed when she has 3 stacks, consume all stacks and deal ++% Arts explosion in a diamond shape tiles surrounding her instead. *p.s. 5* Ritualist Gitano that makes Elafia ops deals elemental damage :copium:

Let's be real chat, she's more selling if being 1st Gen operator operator

After watching this video I realised it's kind of stupid to NOT compare her with surtr because not only are they of the same archetype, 1.5 talent of Viviana are designed for dueling elite and boss enemies which surtr also specialises in Ah wait surtr specialises in killing boss enemies while Viviana specialises in dueling them so I guess that's the difference 😂 Honestly though it's kind of sad that even though surtr exixted HG still decided to give Viviana a elite specialised kit and they didn't even do much with her second talent like seriously only one shield and the shield doesn't even give Viviana anything on breaking like maybe a 5sec atkspd increase or something and she doesn't even have any res ignore so her damage becomes very weak against high res enemies I got her from a free pull in this event so I want to build her specially because I really like her e2 art Hope HG gives her a great module and makes her good atleast in general content

Problem is with her great survivability on skill, her damage is still quite lacking As seen in the video she can barely kill the hammer bro, let alone deal with the monsters in CC with 2819829192 debuffs and buffs

It breaks my heart, I don't know why the artists spend so much time making these amazing looking characters that are abysmal to play.

Viviana what can you do? I can stall? I have some certain DPS?... Are you sure you aren't from other games? Viviana: Yabai desu ne 😊

Nice release date :okaychamp:

Sure, not solo lane holding, but if there is a choke point where all lane meet, surtr can clear the whole stages with her medics harem.

If i was making a arknights tier list for channels, yours is EX tier

To all the doomsayers: She's better than any of my 5* arts guards. In terms of skills I like Viviana's S2 more because it's exactly long enough to kill two of the defenders on h7-2. It also scales with Heidi's S2 while S3 really relies on that second activation to become worth using

She's all I got in 121 pulls with a Dorothy dupe. Kinda depressed but she is aesthetically pleasing.

Are you gonna make video like this for lessing?

tbh s2 shouuld be her breadand butter if the aspd cap is 80 instead of 40

Viviana is the first operator that truly was a let down to me. She's not only underwhelming but also retained NOTHING unique about her boss form in her kit, she's just boring. (Not her art though, thats S tier)

I wasn't pulling for Viviana, but I kept getting her. Didn't pull Virtuosa.

I dont have problem with her except her is her lack of SP and arts res which im hoping HG just gave her a module that restore 1sp when attacking enemy and ignore no. arts res I love her and i used her now on my daily S2m3 S3m3 180%+ trust

I got her with pot 5. Dont really want to build her since hg remove her nuke, one of the thing that i love about her, more over i already have aestesia as laneholder art guard. Great video tho. Vivi kit felt like a year 1 operator

i was so pissed when i got Viviana twice in 85 roles and no other 6 stars showed up >:0 literally only repeated 5 stars and that was it!

Vivianers in shambles when someone goes deep into her weaknesses

Hoo boy, can't wait for me to cry on viviana pot 5 with no virtuosa

Still mad that she doesn't have the cool af aoe attack like cmon that made her interesting besides her design now playable version doesn't even have good effects to look at. extremely lackluster unit, i'll still raise her but man

Character-wise, Viviana is my favourite in the game. It's really sad how she received such a weak kit in a year of incredibly powerful operators. The S1 is a huge disappointment as well; even Guard Amiya performs better, and that's a free 5* 😮‍💨. Really good analysis, as always, on the flaws of her kit! For highlights, CC5 max risk was done on a private server with Viviana in the squad to tank the Hammer boss.

I didn't know her shields capped at 1. That makes her significantly weaker than I thought... Also, why the fuck doesn't S3's multi-hits avoid overkill? Is there any chance this is an oversight that might be patched?

If she got 4 stacks on her shield, would that have made her viable??

A comment for the algorithm

Wonder if her lane could be a spotting game like ifrit&fartooth lane Needs -One elite at a time -Melee elite

Vivi is actually a solid is4 pick since many of the stages have a "slow elite lane" there. Not that useful against any bosses there but still a great option

They gave wisadel Viviana’s skill…. This girl could have been her and it’d make more sense to me. Since wide range artillery seems like what this girl should’ve done.

oh Logos same tier as Degenbrecher.. and lol, Viviana has extemely poor marks hahah (guess I raised her for fun then)

Look either give her 3 in general content or pump Hoe-man to 5. You already did the man dirty but to put them on same tier is ridiculous. By ease-of-use he's miles ahead and with support from other ops (wich both of them usually need) most of the time he is better at everything, from laneholding to killing elites or bosses.

I'll use her anyway but her kit design is so poor. Can use 0.5 talents outside of her niche and her double effect on 1st talent only work in her atk range Duelist without outstanding skill. skill 1 bruh skill 2 somewhat decent but too low dps skill 3 need 2nd activate to be good for no reason. Maybe HG want to make her different from surtr but come on duelist that need 47s to be good after deploy ??

New idea for vivi's mod: kroc duelist talent(negate all damage except from who she's blocking) Please please please please please

Why use stats on 0 trust when comparing archetypes?

What font did you use in the thumbnail?

Lets hope her module gives her ability to nuke

Her module better increase her first Talent at least into 36%/40% at Lv.3

Waiting HG to drop a patch revealing a revamp for her 3rd skill that changed it so something like explosion. Maybe like mudrock third skill kinda thing

Put her next to Skalter and Ifrit, and it feels like she's a permanent Surtr.

waiting for Swimsuit VIviana 😂

JORKIN MY PEANITS TO THIS VIDEO

My beeg-brain speculation on her module Might jumble around 1. -X RES of enemy(ies) attacked Arts dmg, Arts and Phy reduction +8/+10/+12 probably even higher Elite and Boss within range prerequisite is removed 2. 110% dmg against blocked enemies or in attack range 18%/21%/24% (or higher) proc chance on shield Shield layer 1/2/3 blocks ANY attacks or instead of more layers it's going to be Sanctuary at 50% hp Man if it's going to be like this I don't know what to do 🤣

Viviana skill is too poorly design,, they should just made her s1 have extra range without needing to charge, s2 infinite duration and s3 only prioritize blocking elite/boss enemies or even better, become unlimited duration after second activation.