My bet is Uni was turned into a Nightmare >:)

No I’m not hyped, WotC will probably screw things up.

This is exciting and a long time coming. Nostalgia is a huge seller.

A couple of pics of named heroes is not the return of the setting.

I wanted the dragonlance tv show they decided to cancel.

I got hit with this as a kid. After reading the Chronicles, I grabbed some of the non MW/TH books, without even looking at the author. I was wondering why it was so awful, then caught that they weren't written by MW/TH. At that time, being a kid, I didn't even know that franchises were allowed to do that. I thought if it was Dragonlance, it would have to be MW/TH. I then found the Legends trilogy, and was like DL is back!

Not going to lie...that would actually be pretty sick

I support this

In 10 tp 15 years we will hear a whole story about whatever hell went behind the scenes of Spelljammer book

They already screwed DL up with the adventure supplement. Each setting touched 5E has had a big, gooey steamer dropped on it. Why did we have to buy what...9 books for Forgotten Realms lore and half baked adventures, when we could have had one big setting book and 9 fully thought out and well written campaigns? The 50/50 approach to the books was absolutely a bad call. The one setting shown any real respect was Ravenloft, which don't get me wrong I thought the book was a good effort, but for real? The only setting? Spelljammer and Planescape were half hearted at best and particularly Planescape was a pale shadow compared to the 2E boxed set.

They already screwed up Dragonlance.

Yeah, this concept of bringing back in all these past heroes, settings, and lore we can really get behind!

Yeah, having more feats seems like a win

Tbh imo Fighter should just be a empty chassis that gets combat feats every 2 levels.

So pathfinder 2e?

The adventure continues on 😢

Actually Chris Perkins snuck it into the DMG as an example setting, its the only way he could update the setting, there are just too few Greyhawk fans left for a setting without an obvious gimmick like Spelljammer, Planescape, Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms, Radiant Citadel, Witchlight, and Eberron has.

As much as I wanna believe different. History is teaching me not to be surprised. The settings will probably become generic so that they can sell more ideas

It is a certainty.

If WoTC is involved, then they will ruin it.

Probably? They most certainly will mess it up.

I will use my old Greyhawk set.

Greyhawk is mostly just a chapter in the DMG, enough you to allow Greyhawk as a setting for dmsguild. Also a few adventures already visit Greyhawk.

@@gyorgyor7765 Still doesn't change the fact that it is stylistically mismatched with 5e or 5.5e etc etc. If they needed a setting for the DMG, spelljammer, planescape, or Eberron would have been far better choices to match the tone and style of the games we play. And all these have 5e sourcebooks.

@@schemage2210 eberron got no love whatsoever and has the greatest potential.....

@@spockjenkins365 damn straight.

​@@spockjenkins365 Rising From the Last War is still on the Beyond front page years after release. A shame Exploring Eberron and and Chronicles of Eberron published independently by Keith Baker aren't canon.

Hmmm...you should watch our interview with Damien Haas tomorrow...

@@TheCharacterSheet is thst the guy who wrote the original show?

Gotta appease the algoirthm gods somehow!

It's been 10 years and there is a lot learned over that time. They are selling the core books for $10 less than the new PF2 Remastered books and the new books will have substantially more pages and content. Nothing will keep you from playing the 2014 5e at your table - unless you use DDB, where I think the 2014 books will become legacy content and harder to use over time.

And WOTC never published Shadowrun.

Oh and was another reason to do these new core books, to fuck over the owners of D&D Beyond and give them a choice, either sell D&D Beyond to WotC or watch as the new Core Books make everything you licienced from WotC obsolete. Saying no would have wrecked D&D Beyond and its value, selling it to WotC get the formers owners a big check and Beyond survives and recieves investments.

There will be no separate half-elves or half-orcs as distinct species/races. You will be able to make a half whatever, but you will take the characteristics of one species.

@@quillogist2875 That's not true, the rules are essentially, pick a human, elf, or orc, and then pretend you're a half-orc or half-elf, there are no rules for actually mixing them besides just playing a half-race in name only. So yeah, race mixing is still racist to WOTC.

​@@duckmanguy8575 It's as quillogist said, cut the crap. A bunch of upcoming and older rpgs do things this way. Also half-elf was beyond broken with the changes to ASIs post TCE, there's no reason to do it if you can simply choose which of your ancestries is more prevalent. Pick and choosing racial traits would also be cool, but it tends to create a bunch of min maxing tendencies in the game

@@victorl.4795 Half elves were never broken, they arent doing it for balancing, nobody has ever had a problem with half-elves except WOTC people and maybe you, theyre doing it because they dont like the idea of race mixing, they have retconed a half-elf character into a drow because they dont want half-elves to exist.

Level Up Advanced 5e solved this issue years ago.

It had an adventure, but that was it. And I don't think you could run a dragonlance game from that adventure.

To be fair there are really only 10 feats. The other 65 should never be taken because they are inferior.

Well… let’s look at what was offered: 1. Grey hawk…. Nice call back, but not really necessary. 2. Uni dead?…. WTF WoTC, NO! No no no Naha nope, wrong. Do not accept. 3. Valors call…. Meh! 4. The twins…. Loved original Dragonlance setting, was disgusted at what they (WOTC) released recently. 5. 75 feats….. ok… if they are all different AND good, and offer customisation of your character like they did in 3/3.5 I’m all for it. 6. Grey red dragons…. What? More importantly.. why? Camouflage makes sense if they are hiding from something, or want to ambush something. But this is a MF red dragon. They are not subtle. Whites yes, greens and blacks maybe, blues unlikely. Reds never. 7. New spines…. Just go ahead and admit it…. It’s 6th edition. 8. Bastions….. ok that’s actually a nice new idea. A way to keep adventures low key and local for the DMs. Also useful for filler one shots for when half the group don’t turn up for the session. 9. New monster….. if they are interesting… great… if not, well. Wasted pages. 10. aasimar…. ABOUT F’ING TIME!…. Plane touched???… not half angels?

Or not.

I mean, you gotta have hope that things can improve! And bringing back some Dragonlance lore seems like a great start if nothing else!

Why would we do that? The updated rules are overall pretty solid if the Playtests were anything to go by.

@@TheCharacterSheet Rules seem good. Bringing back characters but changing the color of skin seems bad. And it appears there is a very good portion of people who have no clue who any of these characters are so they just come off as randoms rather than cool throw backs.

But if you aren't familiar with these settings, it's all new to you, right? So does it really matter? WotC has LOTS of settings for you to choose from, including several MtG worlds. The Radiant Citadel sketched some new worlds. I'm sure they'll do some more new stuff before long. But this is the 50th anniversary! Yes, they're going hard at nostalgia. But every edition has dug into the game's history to put new spins on classic adventures, artifacts, and characters. Grabs long-time fans and hopefully some new ones, too. You may be surprised and see something you'll like.

But you can say the same about the Lord of the rings. Those were old books. But Peter Jackson told the stories in movies for everyone, including new generations. Perhaps the old cartoon is not for you, that is fine. But maybe the new stories can be for you. Look at baldurs gate 3. You don't need to play the previous games to enjoy it.

​@@chuckwilson980 I know myself and I've been playing this game and observing the community for close to 8 years now. I straight up do not care about any of this old material. I was aware of some of these things, like Dragonlance either through osmosis or simply because these things happen to be IP's in spheres of my general media interests. Just like back then I do not care for them. I even tried Wild Beyond the Witchlight and Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen and the parts I did not like were directly related to this old material. I simply do not enjoy old D&D and I do not particularly care for the old heads who eat up that material either because they don't give space for new things.

​@@misterfevillord1588 While I enjoyed the LotR movies, I do not view them as peak fiction like many fans do. I read the books as an assignment back in school and found them dry and wordy. It doesn't matter what decade or era the material comes from, if I do not like the material and the elements involved I will not like it no matter how you remix it. The 80's cartoon did not appeal to me then it will not appeal to me now. While I enjoyed BG3, my experience is soured by the fact I do not like the Forgotten Realms setting, especially the Sword's Coast. The same applies to the old games too. Have I played in that setting? Many times at this point. I know a fair bit of it's lore out of necessity as a player and a GM and that knowledge makes me dislike it more. THAT'S why I want new material that isn't tied to D&D's history or settings introduced in previous editions. New material means that writers and designers actually have the freedom to explore new ideas without the chains of previous lore holding them back and they don't HAVE to appeal to older fans. Even if that new thing doesn't directly appeal to me I would appreciate the fact that it exists.

@@nojusticenetwork9309 Fair enough. I worried you were just dismissing things BECAUSE they were old without at least trying them. But if you've sampled and don't care for them, that's a different story. Everyone's taste is different; that doesn't make you wrong. The good news is that new materials are coming out all the time from companies like Kobold Press, Monte Cook Games, MCDM, and Ghostfire Gaming; I hope you find some things that hit your sweet spot. Peace out!