A 21/22 year old college QB is going to have flaws. That shouldn't be an issue. Having good coaches and a proper plan for their growth and development are the issues. I know it was a different time, but Steve McNair (hugely flawed, but talented) sat for 2 1/2 seasons. Became an MVP.

Those former QBs on youtube are wrong enough to show that they don't really have any type of scouting insight that actually translates. Most of them were big JF fans too.

Obviously I am not a scout, but if I had the 1st pick, I would take Maye. I watched a lot of him and of Caleb Williams and I think Maye made way more nfl quality tight window throws. He also is taller, stronger arm and has awesome athleticism also. He reminds me of Justin Herbert.

You guy brought alot of context to the Drake Maye discussion. Thanks for that, with that being said im firmly in the Drake Maye camp and thinks he will be atleast good QB in the NFL

Maye!! Not much experience but tons of potential

hayden it’s the best haircut so far man. proud of you

As a Heels and Panthers fan looks like I’m now a Patriots fan too .. Drakes an absolute baller now need to get him some weapons

Drake Maye is a STUD it's written all over the 2022 film...let's not forget he was in the race for the Heisman at a BASKETBALL school with less overall Talent

Everyone overthinking Drake Maye, just like Herbert and Allen which I think he is a great blend of them; Herbert had better footwork even tho it was robotic and Allen was a little to aggressive and wild and a long strider like Maye, and he is a line drive thrower like Herbert so when he misses he misses by a lot bc it sails but he has that heat heck streak and can pick apart the middle of the field

Very well done! I hope the commanders are either as diligent as you two are. I hope someone sends them your take if they are not! Thanks

Accuracy and footwork are some of my most important qualities. QBs have shown it’s very hard to improve. More QBs have failed to improve mechanics and accuracy than have succeeded.

Can anyone explain the chart at 13 min? @13:05

Really want him on the Vikings especially cuz we couldn’t trade up for AR last year. Would suck to lose out on that type of talent twice in a row. I do feel like though this ‘high potential’ stuff is getting carried with Maye. Yes the elite potential is what ur chasing but also his play right now is still just as good if not better than any of the other QBs in the draft including Caleb. I think beyond the more recent comps he reminds me a lot of John Elway coming out of Stanford.

Why did you guys take down the film study Drake and Colt did of the Syracuse game?

I think in the right system he’ll do well

Would be fun to see Matt Harmon from reception perception on your show.

Someone send this video to Adam Peters, stat!

If the Patriots think hes the guy he can sit a year behind Jacoby. Maybe some spot starts to have game feel. This is a throwaway season of "hopefully" growth for Pats/Commanders.

need the JJ McCarthy video

my biggest question is that his dad was a QB how come he didn't fix his footwork at a young age?

I was an undersized D1 Pocket Passer. My mechanics and intangibles had to be perfect just to be competitive in D1. You can't get away with STEPPING INTO rush lanes in the NFL in a clean pocket, you can't struggle throwing to receivers with 5 yard of separation and you certainly cannot fix his mechanics without YEARs of training, it takes so long to fix those bad habits and the reality is- Maye could be a decent QB, but there's not as many vets to sit behind like 5-8 years ago.. And he WILL be forced to start if drafted top 5 and will have little help around him to fix those shortcoming. Most concerning is he has trouble moving through his progression when there are players he can throw open and if the first read isn't there he'll tuck and scramble even with a clean pocket at times (if you can actually read a defense this is clear). Moving through a progression it's also important to know how to do this on time man v zone. His timing when he tries to move through progression is non-existent BECAUSE of his terrible footwork, hence why his receivers often seem covered when going to the 2nd and 3rd read... or he has a wide open Post and he's already tucked the ball and scrambling (you can see that in one of the clips early in the vid).

drake maye is a taller mobile matt stafford. Easy pick @ #2.

Drake Maye is sneaky athletic.

Guessing 4 or 5 years. Jordan Love is the only starter given time to grow

4:50 problem with the movement is he drifts into rush lanes which in turn strains his already sus o-line. He turns clean throws into pressured throws more than anyone I’ve ever seen.

He’s a future Minnesota Viking!

You never know 100% but this feels more like the Herbert nitpicking then genuine concern.

welcome to the New England Patriots Drake 🤩

I cannot wait till my patriots draft him. As long as Washington does their job and takes Jaden. Jaden and I are both going to be amazing so Washington and patriots are both winning.

Is he gonna be another Josh Rozen or Josh Allen?

Scouts love Maye because they’re all about projection. People who simply watch what you currently are don’t care for Maye

Some of these young quaterbacks need to be sat down. Ignore the fans and let the veteran qb play.

Im still taking him 1.02 in dynasty superflex leagues but im so scared he will bust

Go Heels

It makes no sense to sit maye. If he has flaws then he needs to play so those flaws can be captured at the nfl level and then you can figure out how to refine him to become better. Him not playing will never allow the opportunity for his team to see what needs to be fixed. Im also interested to know if evaluators are looking at only his junior season or his sophmore season as well.

I've watched a decent amount of his play at this point, and I'm still not impressed, and it has less to do with his knowledge or his intangibles. Like even watching the video package you have of him in this video, he doesn't have to throw balls in tight windows, his guys are often open, the defenders are out of position, guys aren't making plays on the ball they're falling down or trying to tackle the receiver before the ball is even entirely there. The defenses he played against were bad both years, he didn't play a lot of good schools, he didn't get tested with his throws nearly as often as other QBs. I watched some film on Jayden Daniels from I want to say this last year, I saw a throw where he was on the run under pressure and he threw the ball into the tightest window I've ever seen a ball go through and he did it on the run, I also want to say he did it on his back foot or doing a jump pass but I could be confusing plays. And I see that up and down Daniel's film, so many of his throws are contested, through tight windows, placed so perfectly it's just a beautiful work of art. When I watch Maye play it's like watching a kid with a crayon. I have nothing against Maye I hope he succeeds. But I just don't know why people who are breaking down his game tape all over the place seem to overlook the fact that most of his good plays are a result of his guy being open or not being contested. I mean good that he can make those plays and great that he can put the ball where it's gotta be for them, but how often do you really get that in the NFL?

I think tools wise, hes very similar to Herbert and Josh Allen. But i think that mechanical, he might be a bit closer to Zach Wilson, which i think gives him a very boom or bust feel. I also think you guys overblowing how bad his situation is. Walker is a great receiver. Probably better that anything Caleb Williams had. And i think theyre offensive lines were similar. And yet Drake maye was no where near as good

Patriot

We really have to stop comparing this guy to Josh Allen... Setting a lot of people up to be disappointed

Drifting into pressure is not a good thing lmao 😂

What I have seen in the highlights are receivers waiting on passes, also bad foot work.

I trust Merill Hodge, and I think this was a big mistake. The accuracy isn't anywhere close to what it needs to be, and you see it all over his tape. The processing is even worse, and rarely improves much. Penix and Nix both evaluate better. The worst part is that it seemed like a complete FOMO pick by the new front office. If they really thought this was "their guy" they wouldn't have been seriously considering trades while on the clock. Had Jayden Daniels been there at #3, they wouldn't have even answered the phone. Instead it seemed like the trade offers made them worry that they'd be making a mistake by not taking him.

what if the Bears took him on 1 overall? dont think so, hope the Pats get him at 3.

12:56 what is this figure? Got to put a title on your figure. I can speculate without a title

I cannot agree. There is not a playcalling problem, if you misses wide open short throws. That are mechanics. And that was very often. And he wants to get drafted Top 5. Then you do not get a lot of help, you are in bad team. So for me he is a 2nd Rounder, and I think Chris Simms is absolut right in this point. Sit him develop him.

Maye passed for 4,321 yards in 2022. His “elite” wr Josh Downs only accounted for 1059 yds. Ok he lost him. Who did the other 3,262 yds go to if he didn’t have any other talent to throw to? Because they didn’t all leave UNC. Suddenly they were Walmart workers and Bishop Sycamore players huh? It’s not easy to just walk on at a D1 school. You have to be good. Maye was throwing to both 3 and 4 star players at UNC the same as JD5 was throwing to his 4 star talents Nabors and BT. They literally weren’t shit until JD5 arrived. Check their 2021 stats and then check their 2022 stats when JD5 got there. Difference is Drake Maye got worse and failed to elevate his level of play and the players around him while JD5 and his cast got better. He didn’t inherit ELITE wr’s. They all grew simultaneously together. That’s the difference.

It’ll be such a bad day if Washington passes on Maye..

No team has 4-5 years for a qb to be good lmaoooo wtf

Jayden Daniels will be the gem of this class imo.

Hide this vid. Maye needs to fall to the Giants. Was falls in love with Daniels, Minn wants McCarthy and NE wants to trade down. Easy

Future commander

Ever notice how the QB that sucked in the pros are the ones critiquing the kids coming out of college ?

I dont think you get rid of those kind of bad habits that cause inaccuracy in a few months, and I feel like the time to solve those problems would have been in college, not while trying to adjust to being a starting QB in the NFL. Thats like trying to refine your swimming technique, while drowning. It's under all that extra cognitive load where those bad habits really start to rear their head. If he's going to have to sit and develop, I'd hope he's able to do so for much longer than just a few months.

Drake Maye is terrible, Vikings should trade up for JJ, Let Drake fall to the Giants. 😏

Lots of film of him throwing to wide open "windows". That does not happen in the NFL.

In your mind , not in mine ! Welcome to Washington 🎉

It’s so bizarre seeing teams talk themselves into flawed qb prospects at the top of the draft. There are amazing non-qb prospects that they should draft but because the media discourse has shifted towards glorifying QBs, they feel the need to draft flawed QBs…

When you play Football at a basketball school.... I wont hold your de- commitment from Alabama 4 years ago against you Forever..... Karma was ironically served last night at the Tournament.......following your pro day.......Ah, the circle of Life

I don't think he will be heard from 3 years from now. Just more draft hype, we see this every year.

1st Unlike Drake

Might be Trey Lance 2.0

bust. next question

You just demonstrated the disconnect that exists between draft analysts and actual NFL coaches and GMs when evaluating Drake Maye. Who has enough job security to wait the 2-3 years that could be required to fix Maye's mechanics and turn it into musle memory? Years that should've been spent in college instead of years losing NFL games. Instead, he chose to leave 2 years early, and now the team that drafts him will be forced to take the early hit while he figures it out. Former NFL QBs are lower on Maye because they know that fixing mechanics and footwork isn't as easy as draft analysts say that it is. Josh Allen did it by year 3. Sure, who else you got?

Mitch Trubiski 2.0

It's the Great White Hype Syndrome, it happens every year around this time. Sam Darnold, Mac Jones, Josh Rosen, Daniel Jones, Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, they all went before better QBs and turned out to be below avg at best and the same will happen with Drake and JJ. Not looking at skin tone but actual production. Penix was NCAA passing leader, Daniels won the Heisman and yet some putting these guys ahead of them. It's Groundhog Day, all over again.

You don't draft a QB top 5 if you think he needs to sit

New tackling rules will change football. QB consistency is in and erratic/big play QBs are out. That's why Maye's draft stock is falling and those of McCarthy, Nix, Penix and Rattler are rising. Maye is, by far, the most erratic QB of the bunch. He makes bad decisions and he's lousy in the pocket. Lots more running, short passing game, and protecting the football in 2024-25.

Drake Maye is going to be the best quarterback coming out of this draft I hope that whoever picks him works on his mechanics and I would bet my house that he will be the best quarterback at the end of this upcoming season. Ryan Poles I hope gets fired because of him not being a great scout he is gonna be influenced by all the talk about CW and after 2 years CW might be out of the NFL sounds crazy right? CW will lead the entire NFL in turnovers I’m gonna take a screenshot of my comment so at the end of the year I can show the whole KZfaq nation.