Dram also effects your write speed specially if the cache ends up being bad too

Also if you need to install really big files, like AAA games that are well over 50gb of disk space, DRAM less takes forever to install.

@@pedinhuh16 It's good I don't play "AAA" games too often then.

​@@pedinhuh16is dram less good for os?

@@mr.abdullahyt7882nop It’s better u use SSD with dram as your boot drive and use dramless ssd as additional storage

This might be a dumb question but how would i make a separate dedicated sata drive to store the "page file "?

When old rig retired, transferred sata 2 HDD to new rig that can house 3 nvme with 1 pcie 4. Set page files write to hdd

Alternatively, install 2x as much RAM as you think you'll need and disable the page file. While you're doing that, turn off hibernation as the hiberfil.sys file will eat your SSD lifespan.

Does this slowly kill your ssd?

Since the price is only 20% higher at 65 cent per GB, there's no reason to get DRAM-less. The wear resistance and performance is worth it

I have a feeling: grandma (who still has hdd) isn't watching this. Benchmarks of SSD's are heavily skewed: meaning they are not true, day to day tasks you need dram like you need ram. Spend the extra money, and get a good nvme, they last a while.

What do you use for the OS?!!

SATA SSDs run around 550MB/s and M.2 NVMe SSDs without DRAM can do triple those numbers meaning faster transfers and copying data, plus some workflows need higher speeds than 550MB/s as the data rates can be higher than this. Also when building a PC, it can be much easier and cleaner to install an M.2 NVMe than a SATA SSD. Of course we recommend if you can get an SSD with DRAM like our Sabrent Rocket which is very affordable, then we would recommend that as you will get better longevity and speeds but some setups like in laptops for example it may not be an option

@@SabrentUSAOfficial Thank you very much.

No problem 😊

NO. Sata's are not the bottleneck. Day to day use, you want dram.

And what's that now?! 🥴

Absolutely, no brainer at that price, even at $80 it would still be good.

dram makes negligible difference to games, capacity is worth more. once you get just about any ssd loading times are mostly bottlenecked by cpu and memory performance

​@@lt3880 What do you mean capacity is worth more? that its better to get more storage in the extra 20 euro's? cuz im in the same situation

Too late for that now @@Eric-rl3jl

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@@SabrentUSAOfficial didn't answer the question

no point asking a company what they recommend. they'll either say their product because they believe it's the best or they'll say their product because they'll get in trouble for saying anything different.

samsung 980 are better tier,,, if you want to choose kingston pick their KC3000,,,

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hello sir, idk if this might be useful for you now. But here the spreadsheet with tons of ssd model with their specs. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

@@kafka5187 thanks for this, I dont understand why companies are so coy about what should be a selling point

​​​@@kafka5187 thanks for sharing this. I'm currently looking for the best value (price per gb) PCIE 4.0 M.2 that has DRAM (Not dram-less). Figuring out out which ones have DRAM has been a huge pain. If PCPartPicker had filters for dram/dramless and read / write speeds that would be awesome.

What happened is there are no real tangible difference that average users can feel using gen3 or gen4. So people went for gen3 for the cheaper price driving up the demand. Higher demand drove up the prices, leaving low demand for the gen4's. Which made me able to buy a 2tb WD770 for just 80 bucks.

DRAM SSDs are extremely necessary if you choose it as a main drive to boot your OS. Without DRAM, it could potentially take a bit longer. Here in India, SSDs with DRAM cost only about 3-4 dollars more than DRAM less drives. That's the reason I never looked at DRAM less drives. Even if yo only want to store games or media, I still recommend you choose the better option. It just unleashes the full potential of using an SSD.

I have no idea what you just asked

@@djnohands3632 new ram is dram and pre installed ram is not dram? Will this combo work fast for processing

is 50gb typical? I would be surprised if that was an average write load for a computer not doing much. However, they do have many ssds with endurance of about 600tb. That would take quite a long time to use of even with 50gb per day, or 100 gb per day.

@@jacobnunya808 600 TBW is just the warranty numbers the manufacturer promise, its not real, my SSD has 800TBW rating but HWinfo tell me that its drive life remaining is 44% after just 90TB write. If Hwinfo is accurate then this drive will die in the next 2 years which by then already exceed 5 years warranty. I have another older SSD which is a true MLC? it also had DRAM and the DRAM write is over 150 TB but the SSD host write is only 35TB and HWinfo shows 99% life remaining See how big the difference? 50GB write into the SSD by OS seems typical, my other PC with the MLC SSD just only using as HTPC had 150GB+ written in 2 days but it mostly goes into the DRAM cache so no problem my current PC have 200GB written in 40 hours, not doing anything special apart from gaming and downloading to HDDs i advise download the latest HWinfo and check for yourself, older version could not see the DRAM writes it always only show 7GB or something, people that own a SSD with DRAM will only see about 5GB write per day before this because everything goes into DRAM.

@@loucipher7782 I think you got unlucky with your first drive if it is being accurate. Every tbw test I have seen shows the drives exceeding if not matching the tbw rating. None of the ssds that I have used have had issues with bad blocks even after after several years. I don't think there are aging affects that could cause cells to start dying after a few years, but I could be wrong.

@@loucipher7782 percentage life is not reliable enough

Bear in mind guys that the bigger the storage the more TBW cycles an SSD has since the more space allows the SSD to put data in different parts and reuse the same parts more rarely. Also with an SSD is really bad filling it. The less free space you leave the less the life span since it has to move around so much data and when it is full is has to move around everything and use everything. So when you buy an SSD always give your self some extra space and assume you are buying a smaller capacity than what it says on the box. For example i bought a 2TB SSD. I really wanted 1TB but i bought 2TB just for that since this is gonna be the SSD hosting my OS and i want it to last long. If i ever feel the need to store more i'll only go as much 1.5TB at most so i can leave it some space.

that model doesn't have DRAM as the controller doesn't support it

@@seibertron500 thank you. I already bought it for exclusively for gaming

Thank you!

Tlc is bettr with dram or dramless doesn't matter

qlc is slower but has larger capacities. this is why its rare to find nvme ssd larger than 2TB they usually use TLC

​@@lt3880And even then, TLC memory is bound to break in a few months if you use it to load the OS.

Yes

​@@SabrentUSAOfficialis dram less ssd god for os and storing game like forza horizon 5 COD?

We are everywhere 😉👽

@@SabrentUSAOfficial Sounds creepy!

Yep, exactly, it should be more common now. Heck my 2020 PC has an NVME with DRAM.

I mean for stuff like game storage on a sata ssd dramless is fine

Braindead take

Huh

fr it costs them just a couple dollars at most

Lmao ikr

If you are buying it because it gives you more space cheaper then isn't it also about space? 🤔

Thanks 🙏

I have just watched this video and its not at all, these videos are different and I also mention points Linus didn't. Yes the information at point are similar but you do realise this is the same topic right? It's like watching a video about full frame vs APS-C from a bunch of creators and saying they are all saying the same thing haha well of course the differences are the same. Also same sequence of talking points? You mean explain/ history, explain each type, talk about differences and then conclusion...... just like every comparison video out there on any topic. All my comparison videos are identical in structure, its how I like to explain things 👍

Where does it index it? On a slower memory. Dram is a one in all in house solution. Sure your neighbor has sugar, but which is faster, you taking out your sugar package or going to the neighbor asking for one?

@@wow1371 > Where does it index it? I assume Windows indexes it to main memory. I see what your saying with the sugar analogy but it's just difficult to imagine that with main memory to SSD transfer speeds that it could make a significant difference. However, I guess there is something inherently inefficient (with regard to SSDs) in the way Windows indexes drives because I recently found out about HMB which, on the surface, sounds like Windows indexing but must be different in some way.