Drawing Supplies I Use for Longer Drawings

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Drawing Supplies I Use for Longer Drawings

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Discuss the supplies I use for longer drawings intended to be hung at a gallery or someone's home. These drawings should be done using archival materials. I'll go over a graphite option and a charcoal option.
Supplies Listed:
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GRAPHITE:
Staedtler Mars Technico Lead Holder
Lead Refills - HB, 2B and 4B
Lead Pointer (thats what they call their sharpener)
Strathmore 400 Series Bristol Board
OR Strathmore 500 Series Bristol Board
* paper - look for 'hot press', 'smooth', or 'plate' - they all mean smooth.
kneaded eraser
Charcoal Powder
Brushes - any Flat Bristol and Large Filbert/Round Sable
scrap paper or bridge to rest your hand on
Spray Fixative
CHARCOAL:
Conte 1710 HB, B or 2B Charcoal Pencil
amzn.com/B0028D4LR0
Arches 88 Silk Screen Paper - great alternative to newsprint
kneaded eraser
Charcoal Powder
Brushes - any Flat Bristol and Large Filbert/Round Sable
scrap paper or bridge to rest your hand on
Spray Fixative
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Editing - Stan Prokopenko, Jon Neimeister (andantonius.cghub.com/images)
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Пікірлер: 751

@fireball5540 7 жыл бұрын

2B or not 2B

@MelanieMacDonalDMELSPLAYLISTS 5 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAA 😂 OMG THIS ONE REALLY GOT ME BECAUSE ... A MOMENT AGO I WAS JUST SHARPENING SOME NEW PENCILS FROM AN ART PACK & NOTICED THERE WAS 2 X 2B 🤨 SO I LOOKED @ ONE & BACK TO THE OTHER 🤔👀 & SAID OUT LOUD TO MYSELF ' HMM ... 2B OR NOT 2B ... ??? ' 🤣 CAME STRAIGHT ONTO HERE & ' BOOM ' GREAT MINDS & ALL , CHEERS FOR THAT CHUCKLE I NEEDED IT 🥂 ...

@Chronorust 5 жыл бұрын

That is the art lesson.

@jaimeiscute 5 жыл бұрын

It’s 2B

@lasarith2 5 жыл бұрын

Fireball F

@IAMSOUND99 5 жыл бұрын

@@MelanieMacDonalDMELSPLAYLISTS Melanie.. will you marry me?!

@madman3891 10 жыл бұрын

lol the jokes/puns in this episode are so bad that they're funny.

@fer-ys1lr 5 жыл бұрын

The tips though

@itrains1841 4 жыл бұрын

Put it in the-

@THENEW6 4 жыл бұрын

Dude. I have a 2.0 mm mechanical pencil that I NEVER knew the proper use of. I just realized I had a powerful drawing tool lying around in a random shelf for YEARS without realizing it. Thank you for that.

@GlennGuillorySFO 6 жыл бұрын

You are a very entertaining and clear communicator. I think your humor, yes it is humor, is matched only by your dancing ability! Seriously, I learned watching and will subscribe. I find that I learn from the younger teachers better for some reason, as at 73, well, I just think young artists are more tuned into the frustration of some of the work. I love drawing and painting, and look forward to seeing more of your work. Your clear, concise, and straightforward manner is very refreshing.

10 жыл бұрын

First pro who doesn't use Prismacolor for every line drawn

@badfish1111 10 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? He's using graphite and charcoal. Prismacolor has neither.

10 жыл бұрын

badfish1111 I meant: many "professional" artist in youtube and outside (that I know) have a kind of pathological preference for that brand, almost like if it was a kind of apple... for artists... By the way I have to remark that Stan P. could draw anything with anything and it would look amazing... PD: sorry for the grammatical mistakes, Im not English speaker

@badfish1111 10 жыл бұрын

Israel Pazmiño Grammar? I think there's a misunderstanding. I was saying that Prismacolor doesn't even make graphite or charcoal products. It would be impossible for him to be using anything Prismacolor with the kind of work he's doing. That's all.

@badfish1111 10 жыл бұрын

Israel Pazmiño By the way. Do you use Prismacolors? At least the colored pencils? Which is the thing artists seem to have a "pathological" preference for. Or do you just like commenting on things you have no experience with? There really isn't anything pathological about it. Artists genrally like the good shit. I would imagine of you had tried them you would certainly know why so many artists prefer them. It's really not too hard to understand.

@bidhrohi12 10 жыл бұрын

badfish1111 Prismacolor does make graphite pencils. Don't know about charcoal. Staedtler is way, way better in graphite though. Prismacolor's colored pencils are affordable and good quality, which is why they're preferred.

@mariachiaraguolo7745 10 жыл бұрын

I am starting now this activity which I have always loved but also neglected... let's hope for the best! Thank you for your tips.

@gattbe5611 8 жыл бұрын

you can teach,,you can draw,,you make great videos,,You are a triple threat..Thank you very much for these videos,they are great to watch and I learn a lot. Very best wishes, a fan and student , Bill

@laryssalbv 8 жыл бұрын

Since I study architecture, I use these staedtler materials a lot on technical drawings, funny I never thought of using them artistically. I'm not sure you are aware of it, but the sharpener has these two holes so you can adjust the height of the lead when sharpening to get different angles. Nice video btw!

@DaroeSeven 10 жыл бұрын

Great video to say the least! Love the BAM lead bit, funny, entertaining and informative. everyone who does drawing should watch your videos

@samdavepollard 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Proko. Nice vid. To anyone getting the Staedtler ‘lead pointer’ - remember there’s a hole in the lid to help you get the lead just the right length before sharpening. You need the lead to be just long enough to touch the bottom of the hole (so to speak). Longer than that and it’s way more likely you’ll snap the lead. Shorter than that and the lead won’t reach the edge of the sharpener. And not to be a dick, but strictly speaking this is not a mechanical pencil, it’s a lead holder. Mechanical pencils are the ones that take the 0.5, or 0.7mm leads. So if you’re asking someone to get you one of these (as a present maybe) don’t ask for a mechanical pencil. You’ll get the wrong thing. And yeah, here in the UK, they’re rubbers. Boy, that takes me back. I remember in school, aged about eight or nine, you might ask someone if they had a rubber you could borrow. Then about the age of 12 or whatever, aware of the other meaning of that word, it would be, ‘er, do you have an eraser I could borrow?’ even though ‘eraser’ sounded ridiculously formal. But of course, there was always one kid who didn’t get it until much later than all the others, still asking someone if they could lend them a rubber, aged like 15. Happy days.

@slurp3194 6 жыл бұрын

lol i spent 40 dollars in a leadholder that takes 5.4 - 5.6 mm lead its only useful for sketching i ran out of lead for my pencil so i tried to use the lead holder for a final piece it took soo much erasing and sharpnigning it was a nightmare

@JTMC93 5 жыл бұрын

Hate to break it to you but Lead Holders are the original design for a Pencil. When wood pencils came about the Lead Holders were termed mechanical pencils and quickly fell out of use in all but the most edge cases, most during that time were more ornamental than anything else, and the term then was used for the more modern designs alongside Lead Holders. The term Lead Holder is a modern term to differentiate between the incremental advancement clutch used more commonly in smaller mechanical pencils and the older style drop clutch used more commonly in larger mechanical pencils. In fact a 0.5mm Pencil is still termed a Lead Holder if it uses a drop clutch.

@BeyondDreamTime 4 жыл бұрын

@JTMC93 -- Why did you 'hate' telling the other person that bit of completely optional and relatively irrelevant information? Was it because of the tone and attitude, the pedantic know-it-all, palpable but unnecessary antagonism towards a comment posted 3-4 years before yours? (What? My reply is crispy-fresh compared to that. :p) Pollard was (and still is) essentially correct though, as far as general use and terminology needed by someone new to art supplies (in other words, people to whom this video is addressed) are concerned. Of course, things could be added, such as: 0.2, 0.3, 0.9, 1.1 mm leads and some others also exist in addition to 0.5 and 0.7 mm,. And that those 2.0 mm leads presented in this video can also be used in actual _mechanical pencils_ (with controlled and automatic incremental lead-advance clutch system commonly used in the 0.2 to 1.1 mm mechanical pencil range and beyond), which, albeit less common, do exist. In contrast, your etymology lecture using archaic terminology is not only arguably irrelevant, unless the subject is 'History of the Pencil,' or metal-point pencils, but mixing terminology across ages and aeons might confuse many people to whom this instructional video is addressed, i.e., people new to art supplies. Anyway, art supplies can be fun, as is experimenting with them, so we could leave it at that -- but someone new to them might want and need *basic and precise information* about *basic* supplies they might care to buy and use to begin with, and for them, Pollard's original comment is actually good and useful in more than one way . The original commenter, Pollard, even mentioned an actually very useful detail, the lead-length calibration hole used prior to sharpening the lead in the lead pointer in order to minimise the chances of breaking the lead (something the uploader, Proko, ignored, didn't mention, in favour of doing a silly dance, cringy jokes, and suggestive antics) -- which is a useful bit of information needed not only by newbies, but apparently by the self-appointed expert, instructor, and uploader himself, Proko. :)

@melcasipit 9 жыл бұрын

Hello from the Philippines, just want to say, I love your videos! It helps me a lot. I've watched a lot of tutorial videos on the web but yours is one of the most entertaining once and high quality too! Great job and looking forward for more videos from you in the future.

@kazuha3351 5 жыл бұрын

obvious naman

@lilsock2319 5 жыл бұрын

From the Philippines too😊😊 Skl

@nikovertus1738 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahatdog

@rajkishorebehera1154 4 жыл бұрын

Eerz

@rajkishorebehera1154 4 жыл бұрын

Mel Casipit

@Upscent 10 жыл бұрын

I replayed the moment with the rubbers till I fell off the chair :D You are insanely cute! And I do follow most of your instructions. You really have taught me a lot, Mr. Proko :)

@badfish1111 10 жыл бұрын

Great video. I like your way of explaining things. And it's awesome you actually reply to questions on here. Thanks.

@Jengayo 6 жыл бұрын

man, your tipps are super useful, but i didnt expect to crack up while watching videos like these. keep it up!

@NAILgasmTV 8 жыл бұрын

One of the most helpful videos I've seen on drawing. Thanks for sharing. Will definitely be checking out a few of these products.

@ProkoTV 8 жыл бұрын

+NAILgasmTV thanks for watching.

@Sorasnoctis 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for always going into detail, a lot of youtubers just say "get graphite. This video helped me a lot, thank you!!

@jennyrabern-hollifield9616 10 жыл бұрын

i'm in love with your videos. you are so good at explaining and helpful. Also you are highly entertaining and adorable! thanks for making these and I have suggested them to many of my friends.

@WilliamParmley 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm very much looking forward to working through this video series. My 2mm lead holder has been lost for ages, so a couple of days ago I went out and bought a Staedtler Mars 780, a lead pointer, and an eraser. Glad to see that is what you recommend! All the store had was 2H lead, so I have some 2B and 4B and more erasers on the way from Amazon. Again, looks like I made a good choice (although I guess I will need some HB also).

@sonja_rademacher 4 жыл бұрын

To pronounce "Staedtler" start with a "sh" like in "shut". Then try to say "steady" but beginning with the "sh". Then just say "stead" beginning with the "sh". Add the " ler" and you're good to go.

@LegoLock-and-Load 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks germany

@raspy-44m 3 жыл бұрын

I like Germany

@phooolramyadav3347 3 жыл бұрын

So you are telling Shadler but I pronounce it stadler

@sonja_rademacher 3 жыл бұрын

@@phooolramyadav3347 Of course you pronounce the "t". It's "sh" like in "shadow". Then the "t". Then the "a" as in "bad". Then the rest of it.

@r.mercado9737 4 жыл бұрын

You have answered most of my questions! Also, I enjoyed your presentation! Thank you!

@ragemoure5542 5 жыл бұрын

I love you Proko. Thanks for sharing with us.

@s.d774 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for all your wonderful videos. Hands down my favorite instructional art video channel. Learn so much, fun to watch, professional quality. What more could you want :)

@ukpaul9221 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a really useful video - it was not only useful but it made me smile. Not all videos do that!

@thesolitairegambit2556 8 жыл бұрын

Your tutorials are very helpful! I'm so glad I subscribed to your channel.

@MightyJetters 9 жыл бұрын

I lost it at "eraser poop", hahahah. Also, I am a huge fan of you and your videos! I've learned a lot and I always love watching talented artist share their secrets and explain how to do things with step by step demonstrations and everything! Please keep doing what you do, you're an inspiration to rookie artists such as myself! ^^

@The_grassmaster 10 жыл бұрын

i appreciate the info along with the info. thanks proko

@nastyalebedeva4909 9 жыл бұрын

your drawings which you've shown in the video are really outstanding!

@michelleschiavi4779 10 жыл бұрын

Your video's are so understanding explaining as u go l have really enjoy watching them and will practice and watch them over again and again thanks so much km glad I found proko as km new to watching these drawing videos 😉

@ilinaeternity 10 жыл бұрын

You remain one of the best art teachers on KZfaq. Thanks so much, Stan :), your videos are hugely appreciated. Your hard work really shows off, both in your art capabilities and your video-making skills.

@ProkoTV 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

@OniEdItS- Жыл бұрын

@@ProkoTV hey proko there many options for conte charcoal pencils does it matter if i get conte a paris charcoal or does it need to be specific

@latination2013 8 жыл бұрын

you're a blast to watch, always the best

@parrishriddle7945 10 жыл бұрын

Good info. Love your sense of humor during the lessons!

@thanhnguyenhouc1106 Жыл бұрын

I favourite brand is Staedtler too, thank for sharing this information.

@Ian-mq6bg 10 жыл бұрын

Many thanks. Very thorough and professional 10/10.

@bambam10years 8 жыл бұрын

Really well done video! Very helpful, content-rich advice & you keep it interesting & engaging (great for us ADHD peeps!!) 👍🏽

@shinobitokobot 10 жыл бұрын

You are my hero, I had never heard of charcoal powder, i always just ended up shading large areas with charcoal pencils. I will definitely need to invest in some powder now

@NKingTotoro 9 жыл бұрын

The cool thing about those lead holders is that they have sharpeners on the bottom cap thing. So even if you forget to take your sharpener with you, you can still keep a relatively sharp point. Lead holders are the best.

@IntersexGamer 4 жыл бұрын

I just wanted to say thank you for this video. It definitely helps a lot. Also not sure if you have tried them but 5.6mm lead holders are handy as well. They are a really good replacement for those easy to break pencils like sanguine, sepia, and charcoal. I can sharpen them in a regular pencil sharpener too because they are so thick and not have to worry about breaking the tip. Im not saying you didn't know just getting pencils in the softer easier to break mediums ive lost quite a few pencils just trying to get a point on one and it was driving me crazy so hopefully this helps.

@RonSwansonIsMyGod 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those Staedtlers are game changers. I'll never use any other kind of graphite pencil again. And for charcoal, those Conte 1710s are beyond smooth. Truly a pleasure to use.

@Rime23525 10 жыл бұрын

You're the coolest drawing teacher on the youtube.. :D I love how informational yet simple your videos are.. :)

@hafizharbi5764 10 жыл бұрын

and funny too xD

@newcop2866 7 жыл бұрын

Rime23525 ...I just wish I could have found this guy sooner. great video

@reginavaquero2783 5 жыл бұрын

Rubber he meant condoms, I am not English either but I have been living in the UK 17 years and they call erasers not rubbers and they call condoms...so I don't why this guy is talking about.

@abizarrebazaar3814 5 жыл бұрын

@@reginavaquero2783 my husband lives in Southampton UK and everyone from there says rubbers PLUS almost every other professional artist I know from lots of Europe. So I'm pretty sure he's not the idiot.

@abizarrebazaar3814 5 жыл бұрын

@@reginavaquero2783 also clearly you don't know how to structure a sentence or spell one or the other, either way you might wanna lay off the person doing society a favor.

@Joe_Maysky 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this Stan! I'm thinking of investing in the graphite/charcoal powder now as I've also seen it used in mixed media work with color which i also enjoy doing in addition to what you teach monochromatically.

@Triposoma 10 жыл бұрын

I love your videos! Are very useful and inspiring!

@DB-zo5ng 8 жыл бұрын

Did not know about the charcoal powder....my life just got so much easier. Thank you.

@salvatorelocicero7069 10 жыл бұрын

Molte grazie Proko,sei bravissimo.

@Ositored1 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing Proko

@alexgourdine4895 4 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy, your vidz are really informative. Thanks a lot !

@fjoo 10 жыл бұрын

Watching the videos for the lessons and information, re-watching them for the bloopers. :P

@shriramshastrakar9018 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the list!

@Chricosci 7 жыл бұрын

Proko thank you very much for the tutorials.help me a lot with my tattoing journey

@sifphon 3 жыл бұрын

best art channel ever

@homefreylf 10 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful (and humorous). Now I really want to go buy art supplies!

@silvanocece1365 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks very useful for me as I have only just started drawing in the last month

@gringoamigo8146 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I use 300 series Bristol boards, mechanical pencils as well as wooden pencils(Derwent brand), ink, and Prismacolor color markers. That Technico lead holder thingy looks really interesting, I might look into that.

@rebekahcrossman4690 Жыл бұрын

I AMSOLD! Thanks for the laughs - I only hope with practice I can dance this well too. And the supplies explanations were helpful too.

@ingeborgmikkelsen9078 10 жыл бұрын

Those charcoal pencils are nowhere here at home, so the link is super helpful. And also the paper! I just bought drawing paper pads and was happy, but then I got newsprint paper in school, and it revolutionized my sketches. Now I only use bumpy, rough paper for my water colour paintings.

@pbrooks9 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your videos. Not only do I learn a ton of stuff, but you make me laugh. What a personable guy you are! :-)

@Kitisuneh 10 жыл бұрын

This is very helpeful, thank you!!

@daletinafloyd8284 6 жыл бұрын

So awesome and clear, thank you.

@cuppa72 8 жыл бұрын

Would you buy one leadholder mechanical pencil and swap the leads as required, or buy three leadholders for each of the HB 2B and 4B?

@dujava 10 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to that shading video!

@flatlanders 10 жыл бұрын

I nearly squealed in joy loud enough to wake up my sleeping spouse when you recommended Arches. (Yes, happy enough to totally overlook that you say it to rhyme with Marches instead of Marshes. YOU LIKE GOOD PAPER WHO CARES HOW IT'S SAID)

@flatlanders 10 жыл бұрын

***** Is it really? Man, I need to find some way to tell my old art instructor that, then. (Not being sarcastic here, btw. Pronouncing the final s in a French name didn't make much sense, but I assumed he knew something I didn't because he's an experienced gallery artist and I was just a student.)

@icisne7315 10 жыл бұрын

Yay I have staedtler pencils too. I think they're wonderful and have good build quality.

@katomiysan 9 жыл бұрын

i seen someone who uses the lead left over from using the lead pointer to fill in the background instead of charcoal powder,... but this video helped cause i had a lead pointer thing... and i didnt know how to use it!!

@nujuumarts6307 9 жыл бұрын

proko is my favorite art class its like if iam standing infront of my favorite teacher

@aneita 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm looking for materials for my father 🥰

@AluVixapede 9 жыл бұрын

I live relatively close to a university that has a lot of art classes; thusly their book store, also has a lot of fine art supplies. (They have extremely good prices too, even compared to the internet ~ I'm not a student either so, it's actually my go-to place for consumables) I like lead holders as well! Though, I actually like the "Kum Long Point Pencil Sharpener with Pointer" ~ It's a pretty good all-rounder. handles both wood case pencils, but also has 2 different sized lead pointers. Uni makes a neat one too :3

@kayhandford3854 4 жыл бұрын

love you, your expression is awesome , the tinkly piano, the jokes, what a guy. Kay in Harpenden England.

@asgharali3320 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks proko for helping out :)

@noblesavage627 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. Just got my paycheck and ready to go do some shopping for supplies ;)

@vunghuynh747 5 жыл бұрын

The staedler cost about 11.99$ and the sharpner cost about 10.99$ and the lead idea about 7.99$ or 8.99$ hope you find this helpful

@rileyaxelrod5994 9 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@AzizSImlan 7 жыл бұрын

Great vid! I love how you explain! Btw this vid is funny!

@3kids2left 8 жыл бұрын

I have learning a lot with this video's thank you.

@savrohn121 8 жыл бұрын

Oh my god ive never heard such a pleasuring sound like this multiple pencil drop sound xO

@tobialexander502 7 жыл бұрын

love your videos, quick question, how 2 sharpen wolf carbon pencil? like the conte 1710 or reg pencil? tried it conte way, it didn't go so well.

@rocketfallen 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for providing online shop links! As someone outside of the US it's always frustrating when people only talk about their local stores.

@prettyme721 7 жыл бұрын

you are awesome!!!Very detailed help!Thanx.xoxo

@Lexivo753 5 жыл бұрын

For the mars technico pencil, the two holes beside the foam are for getting the precise amount of lead length so you dont waste any rather than pulling it out a few centimeters

@senorfernandez 5 жыл бұрын

Very enjoyable !

@MesserCreations 4 жыл бұрын

This video was great, thank you :)

@2phalanges 6 жыл бұрын

love your reviews. i only have 3 friends. but they all know about this now.

@geoffroy9659 10 жыл бұрын

Excellent! merci pour toutes ces explications :)

@Arambarry 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you, as usual, very helpful and funny:)

@plekang1 4 жыл бұрын

Great info - and FUN presentation. You're a funny guy ... haha!

@musicianscientific1067 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative, thanks

@maheshnandade4334 7 жыл бұрын

very helpful ,thanks.

@zzzz9455 5 жыл бұрын

Your vids are so fun and funny😂

@joelq.tabuena4469 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! watching from the philippines Godbless!

@mlouhar 10 жыл бұрын

You are so much fun! Love your approach to teaching. I tell all my artsy friends to watch your videos and they have told me they love them! Keep up the great work. You are very much appreciated, especially in my small community where there are few truly knowledgeable teachers in the fine art of drawing.

@ProkoTV 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

@pkay1111 8 жыл бұрын

thank you. love your review.

@lunagirl8555 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Very useful.

@edwinmunoz3642 9 жыл бұрын

like this very much......so these are exactly the things i needed to have.

@jojocell2237 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.. very helpful

@preetiartist01 8 жыл бұрын

Stan you are superb.

@olunivibhashivibhashi772 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you proko......👍👍👍

@Shafiq600 9 жыл бұрын

thank you for ur great information

@MrMantastico 10 жыл бұрын

Again, hilarious and informative, I love these videos, oh and I'm English so I use rubbers!

@sabretooth717 5 жыл бұрын

DUDE...UR GENEROSITY N SKILLS ARE AMAZING...THE HEAVENLY FATHER HATH TOUCHED UR HAND N HEART MAN...IM TELLN U.!!!!😇😇😇😇💪💪💪💪💪🤑✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍✍

@richardzapatero3209 7 жыл бұрын

I only use the tip and I don't use a rubber :)

@artistjohnwoolley 7 жыл бұрын

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@eliwallace3825 7 жыл бұрын

OH GOD DAMMIT. Just take your like and leave...

@jjangpyong1953 5 жыл бұрын

That sucks.....well..I usually get new rubbers and don’t use the rubber on the top of the pencils at all!

@terimiller6730 5 жыл бұрын

(>___

@cliffoswald 4 жыл бұрын

Let me guess; you live in the Ozarks and had three kids, besides the other twelve, with your sister...

@eliwallace3825 7 жыл бұрын

I used the Staedtler drafting pencil for a while, until I switched to the Pentel GraphGear 600. I noticed that the huge leads were too thick for my field (manga inspired graphic novels). I found that using just 0.7 blue leads is perfect for me. Now I'm interested in the Rotring 800!