Drinker's Chasers - Lucasfilm: The Most Mismanaged Studio In Hollywood

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Critical Drinker After Hours

Critical Drinker After Hours

Күн бұрын

Amid the endless rumours and speculation of disastrously mismanaged movies and Kathleen Kennedy stepping down, we ask ourselves a simple question - what on Earth happened to Lucasfilm?

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@lowkeyarki7091
@lowkeyarki7091 Жыл бұрын
10 years ago, we'd all be saying it's impossible not to make 1 billion with any Lucas film IP. Now we're laughing at the idea that any of their IP would make a profit. Kennedy's legacy is running the most profitable franchises to the ground
@enriquecabrera2137
@enriquecabrera2137 Жыл бұрын
Considering how massively as successful anything they make that is even remotely average, there is plenty of evidence for them to know that it's literally a money printing machine but they STILL refuse to make even the most minimal effort in the right direction. They're ACTIVELY trying to fuck everything up.
@StefanoBorini
@StefanoBorini Жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you hire for checkboxes, rather than talent.
@leroyrodgers6089
@leroyrodgers6089 Жыл бұрын
I won't lie, if they make another Rey starwars it will be the first starwars I don't watch
@falcor200
@falcor200 Жыл бұрын
Girrrrllllll Powwwweerrr 😂 she essentially made the NBA of ips into the wnba and now is living off handouts from Disney.
@captainz9
@captainz9 Жыл бұрын
"is running" - I think you used the wrong tense, it's past tense - "has run" it into the ground
@frankbelmont1565
@frankbelmont1565 Жыл бұрын
Disney could have done 10 years of Skywalker extended universe stuff and another 10 years of old republic stuff easily. Yet Kathleen said no content existed and they used their own 'original' ideas to create the most generic protagonist ever "Rey Palpatine" .
@inyourgranmaass3605
@inyourgranmaass3605 Жыл бұрын
What utter garbage they blatantly and purposefully destroyed star wars and every franchise they touch
@colewagner3435
@colewagner3435 Жыл бұрын
I have said this for almost 10 years now. They could have done the Thrawn trilogy, used Timothy Zahns books to write the script, each movie would have made over a billion dollars easily, and everyone would have been happy. It was pure pride on Kathleen Kennedys part that led to the situation Disney is now facing with Star Wars.
@brolohalflemming7042
@brolohalflemming7042 Жыл бұрын
@@colewagner3435 This is what I don't understand. I'm no die-hard SW fan, but remember reading Zahn's Heir to the Empire. That included Mara Jade, who seemed a much more interesting character than the Rey they created. Apparently she was created by Zahn *because* the existing SW lore lacked strong female characters, yet here was one that was prepared earlier. I've no idea what rights issues there are around the extended universe, but as I understand it, anyone writing in that space had to give Lucasfilm pretty extensive rights.
@colewagner3435
@colewagner3435 Жыл бұрын
@@brolohalflemming7042 you hit the nail on the head. Mara Jade was an already established and liked character that would’ve been the ideal addition to the Star Wars universe. She was already involved in the story for the Thrawn trilogy, and she has an amazing character arc across those three books. Not to mention that Disney could’ve also done a whole series around Mara Jade and what she did with the empire. And, since she’s a strong female character, everyone wins on all fronts. It’s astonishing to me that Disney literally has endless amounts of already made material to use in their shows and movies, and chooses to use none of them.
@evernight1405
@evernight1405 Жыл бұрын
​@@colewagner3435 And if they use any of it. It to cherry picke and make a water down versions of it or ruining it and killed it off as fast as possible.
@homelessjesse9453
@homelessjesse9453 Жыл бұрын
We couldn't even get Luke, Leia, and Han in a room together for the sequels. Not even for one scene. That's how inept Disney is. That's how badly they screwed things up.
@brentninedorf6617
@brentninedorf6617 Жыл бұрын
That is the equivalent of missing a lay up in basketball.
@planetdisco4821
@planetdisco4821 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my biggest beef with the sequels. Just one scene with the original cast ffs. Absolute bunch of idiots…
@theshipoffools
@theshipoffools Жыл бұрын
@@brentninedorf6617 ...with a hoop that's 20 ft wide, and only 12 inches off the ground.
@jrus690
@jrus690 Жыл бұрын
Palpatine, Yoda, Anakin, Obi-wan were not in the same room together in the OT. What are you babbling about.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper Жыл бұрын
@@jrus690 take Palpatine out(which is fine cause he's a villain that the younger generation was stuck facing) and you still get Yoda, Obi, and Ani in 1 place together at some point
@davidsummer8631
@davidsummer8631 Жыл бұрын
Star Wars has gone from being a cultural touch stone to something you wouldn't now touch with a barge pole and that does take some doing but Disney managed to do it.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus Жыл бұрын
I dunno, it's still one of the biggest franchises around. Star Wars was already reeling from one massive disappointment before Disney came along anyway.
@primusstovis3704
@primusstovis3704 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even touch it with your barge pole let alone my own one. I have not watched any new star wars since TLJ.
@davidsummer8631
@davidsummer8631 Жыл бұрын
@@primusstovis3704 At least check out Andor which is a Star Wars show for adults
@RichtorLazlo
@RichtorLazlo Жыл бұрын
This is all part of the message (plan) they want to undermine the cultural impact of things like starwars, really need to break our spirit. Trashing these great franchises and cultural heroes that stand up for what’s right, they can’t have people thinking this is how it should work.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower Жыл бұрын
Disney did that to many things.. especially vice and espn
@doctormeatball7618
@doctormeatball7618 Жыл бұрын
Lucasfilm has pissed away more goodwill in the last decade than Drinker on a Toilet Duck bender. Piss, that is...
@arminxvs3372
@arminxvs3372 Жыл бұрын
And still people will suck the IP hard if they bring a somewhat okay-ish movie or series because people still love the franchise and have sooo much benefit of the doubt.
@dariusq8894
@dariusq8894 Жыл бұрын
The decline of Star Wars is absolutely KK's fault. The wokeness was brought in by her and it all comes down to personal insecurity. She put so much emphasis on overwriting Lucas' legacy with her own she completely neglected that the stories you tell need to resonate with the people to be successful, not just yourself.
@kreedence_art266
@kreedence_art266 Жыл бұрын
To be perfectly fair to SW, the downfall is George Lucas's fault.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower Жыл бұрын
That is Disney.. they did it to every single media group they've merged with, especially noticed since their big 2016 loss
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower Жыл бұрын
Disney did that, since 2016.. to espn... starwars... comic book movies now... abc'snews.... i can name them all and most of them have some kind of idealogy they put into it, leaning to... the side of one party
@joelt2002
@joelt2002 Жыл бұрын
I used to think this. But the wokeness is throughout Disney and Bob Igor had plenty of time to correct KK and he chose not to. I think it was a corporate culture in Disney that bled down into Lucasfilm.
@Stakex
@Stakex Жыл бұрын
See, there is plenty of room to criticize Kennedy for her running of LucasFilm but this line of attack is more a "I hate her because she's a woman" attack. Fact is, over the top "wokeness" is a Disney wide problem and it's arguable that Star Wars isn't even close to the worst offender. I mean hell, Andor was pretty much devoid of "wokeness" (there were strong female characters but they weren't over the top girl bosses and were balanced with strong male characters)... when was the last time you could say that about a Marvel production?
@Bow-to-the-absurd
@Bow-to-the-absurd Жыл бұрын
Studios have deliberately reduced the writing pool by going with diversity over quality.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower Жыл бұрын
Studios? You mean a whole political party, brother... it's Disney and they are on what side? Joe's... and not so much Joe as they are in the pocket of Xi
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower Жыл бұрын
Xi and Joe run more than just disney studio now... it's actually at the peak of the military now here 🤐
@Falconlibrary
@Falconlibrary Жыл бұрын
"It's the first film written, directed, and produced by nonbinary people of color! The script? Who cares about that, you racist! You TRANSPHOBE!"
@greggibson33
@greggibson33 Жыл бұрын
Prove it.
@emhu2594
@emhu2594 Жыл бұрын
Nepotism hires using ChatGPT rule Hollywood since they destroyed screen writing after the strike
@theoneneo5024
@theoneneo5024 Жыл бұрын
You could argue that Chapek was left holding the bag for a lot of crap that Iger implemented and when it started falling apart Iger got to put on his Superman cape and come back to save the day from his own failures. The Little Platoon is right that Iger was astute enough to setup a patsy and position himself to be the hero who was needed to save Disney. That is SW Emperor 3D level chess.
@zaryalace7475
@zaryalace7475 Жыл бұрын
He did it to his former boss Michael Eisner too. Iger is ruthless.
@sigurdholbarki8268
@sigurdholbarki8268 Жыл бұрын
You could argue that, or you could just state it as a fact!
@deadli-us
@deadli-us Жыл бұрын
Iger is the plumber who clogs the toilet on his way out the door
@glados4765
@glados4765 Жыл бұрын
Kathleen Kennedy: Trashes 30 years of expanded universe content. Also Kathleen Kennedy: It's hard because we are working without any source material.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
"I can't find the damn forrest with all these trees in the way"
@DarthCambot
@DarthCambot Жыл бұрын
Ironically Lucasfilm rips off the eu 24/7
@themalcontent100
@themalcontent100 Жыл бұрын
Blackmailers never stop until they are stopped. I have no idea what dirt she has but it must be worth billions.
@alexfriedman918
@alexfriedman918 Жыл бұрын
Has to be something big! Any dirt on who she had to blow in the 70’s to advance in Lucasfilm with no talent or intelligence … will have aged about as well as she has. She must literally know where bodies are buried!
@b_g_c3281
@b_g_c3281 Жыл бұрын
@themalcontent100 ....Nothing a properly planned, truly well-coordinated "accident" can't _fix_
@themalcontent100
@themalcontent100 Жыл бұрын
@@alexfriedman918 She and Iger are narcissists without doubt. She raised Lucus ans speilburg up in order to rise her own renown. Narcissists are all about legacy. They will never admit fault and it is sad that they chose Disney to leech off.
@1701EarlGrey
@1701EarlGrey Жыл бұрын
nah, I just think that people in charge of Disney are "geniuses" and they think that KK is doing a great job only fans are ungrateful and they can't appreciated creative decisions made by brilliant Katty ! Plus there nothing to replace her. Just look at Paramount; for last 14 years they stubbornly refused to fire Kurtzman, even though he demolished Trek beyond repair and he is still doing this! Studios just refuse to make changes, unless they have knife on their throat - that make you think how bad is situation at Marvel that they decided to fire Victoria Alonzo.
@YouilAushana
@YouilAushana Жыл бұрын
She has got certain folks in compromised positions with certain *_"honeypot agents"._*
@grandmufftwerkin9037
@grandmufftwerkin9037 Жыл бұрын
Lucasfilm can't even successfully sell merchandise anymore! Merchandise! This is what made George absurd amounts of money, and they have managed to mess that up, along with their entertainment ventures. Truly amazing. 🤣
@Ebalosus
@Ebalosus Жыл бұрын
That’s what’s mind boggling about Disney’s handling of the IP: under Lucas it was an absolute money-printing machine, despite the movies. Under Disney it’s a white elephant _because_ of the movies.
@bruhdon4748
@bruhdon4748 Жыл бұрын
I mean who the fuck wants an action figure of budget Ridley from alien.
@zaryalace7475
@zaryalace7475 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ebalosus even if the prequels were bad, at least George didn't disrespect the characters. This key difference is why he was still able to make buttloads of money. I don't know how any executive at Disney or Lucasfilm could release TLJ; the project should have been halted at first draft immediately and then necessary changes be made. Yes, it made $1 billion which caused them to be blind for far too long.
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
@user-xx6vy9ri8p Жыл бұрын
Well Grogu was selling well...
@namelessjedi2242
@namelessjedi2242 Жыл бұрын
Merchandise only sells when people genuinely love the material it’s based on.
@andrewhoult5178
@andrewhoult5178 Жыл бұрын
That photo of K.K. smiling with her all female colleagues whilst wearing t- shirts that said ' the force is female '. That should have told you everything.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
It did. Not a single cent since I walked out of TFA wondering what TF just happened.
@supereliptic
@supereliptic Жыл бұрын
@@samblack5313 Same. TFA was where Star Wars died for me, I didn’t bother with the last one at all and at most I’ve dipped into Mandalorian. Haven’t bothered with the rest.
@CatAtomic99
@CatAtomic99 Жыл бұрын
Kathleen Kennedy is the luckiest secretary in Hollywood-- literally an assistant who was handed a producer credit from Spielberg for doing her job on a movie that turned out to be a mammoth hit, and because of the way Hollywood works, was brought into the orbit of the biggest filmmakers of the 80's and 90's, and had her name associated with all of their work. Her tenure at Lucasfilm paints the picture of a woman who, rather than recognizing just how obscenely lucky she'd been, instead believed she'd never received the recognition she deserved, and bitterly set about killing off all of their classic characters to replace them with avatars of herself. It's comically silly, but that's how it looks to me.
@fredo1070
@fredo1070 Жыл бұрын
Star Wars the jewel in the crown of Disney is now the turd in the potty.
@hotfightinghistory9224
@hotfightinghistory9224 Жыл бұрын
Yep. And one of those big stinky floaters too... not a nice compact and properly dense sinker. This one is only semi solid and still bubbling gas as it enters the pot....
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries Жыл бұрын
@@hotfightinghistory9224 For me, its one of those turds that makes you bleed and is too big to flush. I dont really care about the smell because Im in pain and my bathroom is flooded.
@whenpigsfly8178
@whenpigsfly8178 Жыл бұрын
It's more like the scene from Dumb and Dumber kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKeGgMZ7xp2bgIE.html The toilet is out of order and Rian Johnson just unloaded a mud tsunami
@IncredibleMet
@IncredibleMet Жыл бұрын
Kathleen: Quick, get some glitter. This one needs to be out by December 2025
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely depressing, tbh
@alexfriedman918
@alexfriedman918 Жыл бұрын
There are great writers out there, I’m sure - as always. They just won’t get hired as long as people are picked based on ideology and diversity. That’s why no studio is doing any better…
@Captain_Neckbeard
@Captain_Neckbeard Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@doncarlodivargas5497
@doncarlodivargas5497 Жыл бұрын
It is a flaw with nature that quality and talent do not follow race, sex and mental health, (phobias)
@alanrobertson8626
@alanrobertson8626 Жыл бұрын
Diversity is great as long as it's diversity of thought and perspective rather than shallow tokenism and nepotism towards those in your cadre.
@j-mc5201
@j-mc5201 Жыл бұрын
@@alanrobertson8626 and then it’s worse when they pander a completely different set of ideals towards other national markets. It’s a foundation of pure lies and financial suicide.
@universal3024
@universal3024 Жыл бұрын
@@alanrobertson8626 diversity is great as long as it comes after meritocracy. The problem is diversity is now coming before it, which is why mostly everything out now is shit, for the most part ..
@SR-ob3wn
@SR-ob3wn Жыл бұрын
For the past 25 years, Disney has focused on acquiring successful IPs (Lucasfilm, Marvel)/studios (Pixar) /leveraging their own IP (live action remakes), instead of trying to tell good original stories. This has been a highly successful strategy for a while, but that has now run its course. Their ability to be a real movie studio has completely atrophied, they just don’t have it in them anymore. Hell, they even hollowed out Pixar’s unique synergy that was responsible for so many amazing original stories.
@bruhdon4748
@bruhdon4748 Жыл бұрын
I honestly never thought Pixar would become as awful as it has, it was one of the last good things about Disney & it’s just as shit as the rest of Disney now.
@zaryalace7475
@zaryalace7475 Жыл бұрын
Part of Iger's promotion to CEO in 2006 was to change the energy and culture at Disney. And the only way he saw to do it was to bring outside companies' in, ie. he took all the Pixar executives and put them in charge of Disney creative. Unfortunately, all this consolidation of power eventually broke the fighting spirit of said companies as they perhaps got too comfortable, too corporate, too political.
@matthewgaudet4064
@matthewgaudet4064 Жыл бұрын
The only new film they've made i actually half way enjoyed was toy story 4. Incredibles 2 was a joke.
@SR-ob3wn
@SR-ob3wn Жыл бұрын
@@matthewgaudet4064 I thought Onward was pretty good, in spite of the forced lesbian reference. Haven’t any of the films since then. Most of their films seem to be struggling at the BO these days though.
@SR-ob3wn
@SR-ob3wn Жыл бұрын
@@zaryalace7475 Instead of creating they’ve been managing corporate divisions.
@bobsmith5185
@bobsmith5185 Жыл бұрын
If a fry cook at a fast food restaurant managed their fryer a thousand times better than Kennedy has managed LucasFilm, they would have been fired after a day for incompetence.
@pyametra
@pyametra Жыл бұрын
fail upward
@kimrasmussen7188
@kimrasmussen7188 Жыл бұрын
hey, i want 3 cheeseburgers, 10 pancakes and scrumption. please pack it up, im in a hurry..
@blakerackley8874
@blakerackley8874 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that every initial project director (JJ Abrams, Rian Johnson) wants to bring their own script with them, and more often then not there needs to be a well crafted script by a team of writers who know the actual lore. The fact KK didn't think of the creative impact, and only worried about making her artists and shareholders happy (pushing SW Merch), shows she really isn't cut out for managing such an important intellectual property. It's sad that it has taken this long for them (Disney) to figure this out.
@Ebalosus
@Ebalosus Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough she is a monster very much of Disney’s own making, mostly because she was too conciliatory to them and they didn’t push back enough against her. If they had gotten the Harry Potter IP like they really wanted (SW was more of a consolation prize for them), even with Rowling telling them to fuck off and her controversies, they would’ve been making bank because the Wizarding World parks make bank, as do the books and ancillary merchandise. Instead they’re left with an IP that was an even bigger golden goose than Harry Potter and utterly ruined it.
@archstanton9073
@archstanton9073 Жыл бұрын
Nah, she was pushing for diversity before the ink on her contract was dry. One of the first things she did was blast out those "The Force is Female" shirts. One has to wonder what the state of Star Wars would be if they gave the job to Rick McCallum...
@theoneneo5024
@theoneneo5024 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think she ever cared about the shareholders. She only seems to have cared about her ego and pushing modern politics.
@franciscopina2899
@franciscopina2899 Жыл бұрын
Remember Jurassic Park? In the original book by Michael Crichton, Tim is the older brother and the computer nerd, while Lex was the annoying jock. It's Tim who resets the park's systems, but for the movie they switched them to give the female sibling more importance. Also, in the book, after Malcolm says his famous line "God creates the dinosaur, God kills the Dinosaur", yadda yadda, everyone simply contemplates what he just said. Instead, in the movie, Dr. Sattler adds "The dinosaur eats the man. The woman inherits the Earth." Now guess who was one of the executive producers of Jurassic Park... 🙄
@zaryalace7475
@zaryalace7475 Жыл бұрын
​@@franciscopina2899 the seeds of wokeism planted in the 90s.
@nemarsde
@nemarsde Жыл бұрын
Lucasfilm shouldn't be surprised by Star Wars' death. The Rise of Skywalker's story was like a T-800 that went back in time and terminated the franchise before it was born. It made Anakin's journey and redemption meaningless, it made the actions of Han, Luke and Leia meaningless. Lucasfilm put a bullet in their own franchise and now wonder why it's non-responsive!
@jimmaurer8361
@jimmaurer8361 Жыл бұрын
Yes! They ruined established characters because the cant create anything new. Then when they do (like Snook) there's no back story. And who remembers the "story for another time" when Rey was handed Luke's lightsaber?? Never watched beyond TFA, too disappointed to go on
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper Жыл бұрын
That was after Skynet went active in Last Jedi and wiped out most of humanity Of cours, Force Awakens, while the least terrible, did still build Skynet and deserves a share of the blame
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 Жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper Force Awakens sucked just as hard - Han dead, Han and Leia split up, lame story, audience laughed when Kylo first took of the mask in my cinema lol - JJ Abrams hack job supreme. It was a success because it was the first and people have bought into the idea it was somehow ok - it wasnt it was pure suckage
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper Жыл бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 It was not great, but *some* setbacks weren't too crazy and could have been accepted, *if* the story actually went somewhere interesting After all, in the first movie they blew up the super weapon but by the next one they're *still* hiding out in obscure locations with the Empire still going strong. Empire remnants isn't too crazy, but definitely weird that Han not only got the reset button hit with his life and abandoned the love of his life, but he also *somehow* lost his ship and *never* bothered going back for it? That's not as bad as Luke closing himself off from the force and wanting to go die, yet leaves a map behind and doesn't bother to ghost himself until he has *no* reason to.
@LeeONardo
@LeeONardo Жыл бұрын
@@jimmaurer8361 Ah yes "A good question ... FOR ANOTHER TIME!" I HATE when stories use that cliche, like anyone in that situation would say "no, say the basics on the way, I NEED to know". But JJ got to have his pandoras box of mysteries and intrigue ... Garbage.
@michaelhuegel4146
@michaelhuegel4146 Жыл бұрын
Disney has bought my childhood and destroyed it out of spite.
@SamtheBravesFan
@SamtheBravesFan Жыл бұрын
No they didn't. Your childhood is your own memories. The fact that things you watched still exist now in original forms is just a bonus.
@ullopincrate
@ullopincrate Жыл бұрын
Spite. Exactly
@captainiceberg8637
@captainiceberg8637 Жыл бұрын
The downfall of Star Wars is absolutely fascinating. I can't look away.
@ericmatthews8497
@ericmatthews8497 Жыл бұрын
Why do you look at it that way? For me STAR WARS will ALWAYS be the original movie from 1977. Everything that has come since has been a derivative work. There is no DOWNFALL for me. STAR WARS is and always will be one of my favorite films... even more enjoyable than The Empire Strikes back - whose special effects have not held up. The AT-AT attack on Hoth in particular looks very much like models filmed on fake snow.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
It’s depressing but we still have the OT and PT.
@captainiceberg8637
@captainiceberg8637 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtzahringer9750 Definitely will be. There were poor business decisions about when to release, what to release etc, but mostly it's just amazing how the writers consistently disrespected the previous stories EVERY TIME.
@scottf5791
@scottf5791 Жыл бұрын
Same and Disney for that matter.
@Splitter4416
@Splitter4416 Жыл бұрын
The tell-alls and memoirs about iger-era Disney are going to be incredible reads
@twentyfivedegreessouth2199
@twentyfivedegreessouth2199 Жыл бұрын
When Lucas sold the rights to Star Wars he provided treatments of where the story should go. Why the f@$k don’t they dig out these stories?
@cadenadelreino1442
@cadenadelreino1442 Жыл бұрын
There are quite awesome Star Wars books and games out there that have 1000000x better plot than any new Star Wars movie but they just do not care for some reason. They want to use the characters known by the mainstream audience…
@bruhdon4748
@bruhdon4748 Жыл бұрын
@@cadenadelreino1442 but then at the same time they’re cherry picking elements out of the extended universe books & video games. I hate it
@cadenadelreino1442
@cadenadelreino1442 Жыл бұрын
@@bruhdon4748 YES! They are just stupid af
@b_g_c3281
@b_g_c3281 Жыл бұрын
@twentyfivedegeessouth2199 Because::... 1. Kathleen Kennedy is a talentless ((and thusly)) envious, spiteful, hateful bitch 2. Bob Iger is a car salesman who missed his calling (( and an utter dunce when it comes to political philosophy... I don't see him as an ideologue aka a "True Believer" in Neo-Marxism )) 3. And, with the noted exception of Nelson Peltz and Ike Perlmutter, it seems to have shareholders who by-and-large are either out-of-touch, cowards or a little bit of both
@HufflepuffDaddy
@HufflepuffDaddy Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that Disney was scared of a Prequel-like backlash and distanced themselves from the Lucas' treatments. I'm also guessing that hack Jar-Jar Abrams immediately gave them a call after the IP acquisition and they went with him instead. It's still KK's fault.
@-C.S.R
@-C.S.R Жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying Disney's downfall, it's been quite entertaining. Can't wait to see their next catastrophe! Keep it up😅
@ANobodyatall
@ANobodyatall Жыл бұрын
They should do a miniseries.
@j-mc5201
@j-mc5201 Жыл бұрын
From infinity War…. To infinite Flaw
@theinitiate110
@theinitiate110 Жыл бұрын
It’s just crazy the shift in businesses, not just Disney, not wanting to make the best products possible for their customers so they can make the most money possible.
@chucksenhowzen9740
@chucksenhowzen9740 Жыл бұрын
You mean “keep it down” 😉
@1701EarlGrey
@1701EarlGrey Жыл бұрын
Same here - I'm pointing at Disney and say ; HA, HA ! 😂
@alexfriedman918
@alexfriedman918 Жыл бұрын
I really don’t want any more Disney Star Wars movies - the more garbage they make, the harder it would be to fix!
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 Жыл бұрын
Maybe not. Some of us cut out early of the sequel trilogy. Most of the garbage they’ve been putting out becomes easily forgettable, pretty damn quick.
@schrodingerscat1863
@schrodingerscat1863 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemontgomery2654 I watched half of the first movie in sequel trilogy and that was enough for me to know it was garbage, it obviously went off a cliff after that. I watched Rogue One and found that to be half decent but not until it had been out for a while and had past the smell test with trusted critics. Haven't watched any of the made for TV stuff because it all looks bland and uninteresting. They would have been better off just doing live action remakes of the cartoons, at leat then the stories would have been decent, though I wouldn't put it past Disney to totally screw that up.
@matthewmagda4971
@matthewmagda4971 Жыл бұрын
Facts. No one trusts the brand anymore.
@donaldjrtrumpy8511
@donaldjrtrumpy8511 Жыл бұрын
true I don't care if they spend billions on a movie I am not going to theater to watch a new star wars.
@namelessjedi2242
@namelessjedi2242 Жыл бұрын
It cannot be fixed. Carrie is dead.
@peterd788
@peterd788 Жыл бұрын
In the case of this latest rumour about KK the word is it comes from the woman herself. She was, apparently, so angry about the meeting that she came back to her office fuming at everyone about it.
@sancocho1718
@sancocho1718 Жыл бұрын
The moment she said, "We don't have a lot of material to work with". After ejecting the entire Star Wars legends, and expanded universe material. I knew there was no going back.
@7thwheel
@7thwheel Жыл бұрын
I actually agreed with the decision to not adapt from the books. If they stuck to the books they would have been locked in to telling a story that a lot of fans already knew. The blunder was that they didn't have an established outline for the new trilogy. They didn't know what was going to happen in episodes 8&9 before they started shooting episode 7. They had the easiest touchdown in movie history and they fumbled the ball.
@Falconlibrary
@Falconlibrary Жыл бұрын
I'm late to the party, but I just watched Top Gun: Maverick. Imagine this: a film in which the white male hero is not a fumbling doofus, is seen by everyone around him as extremely capable, courageous, and the man you turn to when things get tough. And the film made a lot of money and is thoroughly entertaining from start to finish. Contrast that with what the woke Hollywood crowd did to Han Solo (he didn't know how to repair the Millennium Falcon but a girl did) and Luke Skywalker (turned from a hero who inspired hope to a sad, bitter old man who'd come to despise the ways of the Jedi). Let's just face it: the age of heroes is gone from cinema, except for a few rare films that will dodge the butcher knives here and there. We still have the classic films from decades past to watch, but Hollywood has no future, just a glorious past and a miserable present.
@danjonmills
@danjonmills Жыл бұрын
Now add to that Keanu and John Wick.
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu Жыл бұрын
And yet they STILL manage to make Maverick flawed (in a healthy way) - his love life is a mess, he's still haunted by the ghost of his dead friend (and his dead friend's wife, who asked him to fuck up his dead friend's son's career and keep the reason a secret from the boy, therefore giving him even more guilt to carry). And then the only other person he can trust dies, leaving him with a huge burden to carry (major props to Val Kilmer, who should have got a supporting actor Oscar, and to the way they chose to write Ice out). He's got a shitload of baggage on his plate; but damn, the man can still fly a plane.
@jrus690
@jrus690 Жыл бұрын
Top Gun: Maverick starred man who jumped on Opera's couch 15 years ago/practitioner of Scientology but nobody cares anymore because its a man. Obi-Wan went from being man who was a Jedi/trainer/chopped Darth Vader's legs off to hermit guy who Luke has not seen a while.
@Nonamearisto
@Nonamearisto Жыл бұрын
Season 3 was sabotaged. Grogu wasn't supposed to be there, but Kennedy got marketing to demand his return, claiming that toys wouldn't sell if Grogu were absent. The result was a premature return in the BoBF Mandalorian episodes, followed by Grogu becoming a superfluous character in a season where he isn't needed. Also, Bo-Katan seems to be stealing much of Din Djarin's screen time, leading to the possibility that Kennedy is interfering with the plot too.
@geeked-outbasketball765
@geeked-outbasketball765 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to you guys break down Kathleen Kennedy's incompetence all day.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Жыл бұрын
The fastest money printer machine ever, and those bonobos wrecked it.
@josiahanderson9328
@josiahanderson9328 Жыл бұрын
Don’t insult the poor Bonobo. He doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the pack of idiots at Disney and Lucasfilm.
@baldieman64
@baldieman64 Жыл бұрын
I still recall the 10 minutes of denial followed by white-hot anger as the credits rolled on The Last Jedi. I said there and then that I would never pay to watch Star Wars again -- and I haven't.
@HeyApples
@HeyApples Жыл бұрын
The common thread between Star Trek and Wars dereliction and decline is JJ Abrams. He needs to be properly recognized as the killer of franchises and the hack writer that he is. I don't know how he has escaped criticism when he is at the tip of the spear for two monumental downfalls.
@7thwheel
@7thwheel Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you are watching Picard season 3 but it's amazing. No need to watch season 1 and 2 which I hear were terrible.
@davidsummer8631
@davidsummer8631 Жыл бұрын
The worse thing about all this is knowing where we could now be if Disney and Lucasfilm had done Star Wars how it should have been done
@bwill887
@bwill887 Жыл бұрын
And the lost opportunities they had. We can now no longer have Lea, Luke, and Hans together on screen without the digital resurrection. All the goodwill they had, the potentially infinite amount of material they could build on, the potential of the franchise, all wasted to churn the continuous stream of content needed. Even ideas that they may have taken from the extended universe (Palpatine returns) didn't work or have rhe same impact. Say what you will in hindsight, but people were pretty excited after the Force Awakens and Rouge One, if they had even continued down the same path we wouldn't be talking about a dead franchise. At this point, Star Wars may need to disavow the sequel trilogy to move forward. Or hire Lucas, give him full creative license and a big check and see what happens.
@davidsummer8631
@davidsummer8631 Жыл бұрын
@@bwill887 For me Force Awakens was OK but Rogue One got me thinking that if they can make a film like that then that shows they are thinking out of the box but after that it just went down hill and Im not even going to mention that it was because of the message its also due to bad writers not understanding the franchise and also being bad writers in general and also KK constantly falling out with directors and a sense of them not knowing what they are doing The Book of Boba Fett became The Mandalorian show and now The Mandalorian is becoming the Bo Katan show with Andor I saw that as them coming to their senses but that show didn't stand a chance due to how terrible the two previous shows where
@bwill887
@bwill887 Жыл бұрын
@@davidsummer8631 I am thinking it is a combination of changes in the writing room, studio interference, and not understanding the source material or backgrounds (warping a space ship at Palpatine's planet would likely destroy everything, why not do that). I am not entirely sure where the Mandalorian was going for season 3, but given the ending of season 2, this isn't it and it is hard to say what a writer with a clear path will do if the studio doesn'tallow him to tell his story. The change in writers is what I blame for the broken plot threads in the sequel trilogy (Rey's parents being importnat at first, then not at all, then a key driver of the plot). The message is problematic but for a different reason, it has created characters with no real character, either being paragon of virtues that never struggle and always win, mustache twirling villains with no good in them, or a bunch of side characters that range massively from incompetent pieces that need saving to geniuses based on what the plot demands at that time. Weirdly, Ren was the most interesting character in the sequels but he never won against Rey or forced her to withdraw, an interesting character bud a bad villain and the films suffered as a result. Factor in the lack of consistency where no one ever grows and you have a problem. Good franchises get this, the characters have to grow, be humbled, become better (or worse if it's a villain) otherwise the story is just static. I am with you, Rouge One was great. Obvious issue is that you couldn't really build on it and a prequel show, especially after the bad content put out, and it doesn’t have a chance. Andor showed that, despite being a pretty good show in all honesty.
@davidsummer8631
@davidsummer8631 Жыл бұрын
@@bwill887 The Mandalorian should have ended at the end of season 2 why they have continued is because they want to connect the show to the sequel films which have already been pretty much disowned by enough people already so that doesn't make any sense to me and they never had the key points of all the sequel films worked out before they started to shot so how can you build a character in one film when you dont know how they are going to be used in the next film.
@namelessjedi2242
@namelessjedi2242 Жыл бұрын
They had all the resources and ingredients, they just couldn’t do anything with them due to inept leadership.
@beefsuprem0241
@beefsuprem0241 Жыл бұрын
The criminal thing with Star Wars is it doesn't look like there was ever a plan, an arc for the movies and shows. There's been no quality control or pride in what they shat out either...Kenobi and Boba Fett. They've had this hubris that they can do whatever and it will just sell because it's Star Wars. Well Joe public has "woke" up and realised it's garbage mostly and walked away.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper Жыл бұрын
Fett is weird because it involved some of the same people behind Mandalorian and they couldn't even remember that Bob had no reason to futz with the Sarlac pit because he *knew* where his damn armor was by that point. I get wanting the spectacle, so just have him go there and blowing it up because *he wanted to* rather than *he is a moron*
@genreonlinenet
@genreonlinenet Жыл бұрын
The business model at Lucasfilm revolved around the fact Lucas owned all the merchandising rights. That is how they made money hand over fist without new films. The company was profitable and independent, but no one is infallible and I think it showed toward the end of Lucas’ reign. Now the mystique is lost because they keep resurrecting and changing old characters to the point where death is meaningless because we all know they can just retcon it and suddenly Vader is back. Sometimes less is more. I wish it stayed independent, but things change. It is best to let it go and remember the good times rather than endlessly quibbling and lamenting how things have turned out.
@frednone
@frednone Жыл бұрын
The creative staff at Lucasfilms went into the sequal trilogy with the mistaken belief that the fans were unsaphistifcated morons, they believed that as long they called it Star Wars, had spaceships, aliens, lightsaber fights and pretty explosions that the fans would happily buy tickets and merchandize and happilly drool in front of the screens. When the fans turned out to be a little more sophisticated than they thought, their egos would not let them admit they made a mistake and they have been trying to prove the fans wrong and themselves right ever since. Yhe most ironic thing I think is they are chasing a fan base that has never really gone in for sci-fi.
@r.blakehole932
@r.blakehole932 Жыл бұрын
A huge inter connected universe with closely plotted timelines and a bible to keep things straight to tell stories from? Hmmm...It appears that I have an outline of that in the first few pages of Star Wars: The New Jedi Order Force Heretic II Refugee by Sean Williams and Shane Dix copyright by Lucasfilm Ltd in 2003 which is a book pulled at random from my bookshelf. Kathleen Kennedy? "No, throw all that garbage in the toilet and flush it." Movies from the Expanded Universe of Star Wars would have had a built in book fanbase as well as the original Star Wars fanbase. No, throw all those Older fans in the toilet as well.....
@captainz9
@captainz9 Жыл бұрын
They are focused on generating their next fortune to grab the broke woke feminist LGBTQIA2S4KTV+ fan base.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
Older fans are useless.. what, you get 20-30 years out of them before they die? You need to target newborns for 70+ years of wallet milking potential.
@michaelkeegan9260
@michaelkeegan9260 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen rings of power. Even when using the source material these arrogant artists are such sycophants to their own egos that they will try to improve the stories with modern morals and thereby ruin all of their beauty until they blend into the amorphous grey mass called "content".
@Dreamfox-df6bg
@Dreamfox-df6bg Жыл бұрын
Older fans, that have kids and grandchildren themselves. Guess what those older fans are not going to show them? Or buy merchandise from?
@Moray2023
@Moray2023 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure anyone else is an F1 fan, but I feel like the Kathleen Kennedy rumour is like the endless rumour of Porsche joining F1. It's always next year they'll announce something and it's now I'll just believe it when I see it.
@doublep1980
@doublep1980 Жыл бұрын
''K. Kennedy being fired soon'' is like GRRM saying that he's making progress, finishing Winds of Winter...
@Willie_Pete_Was_Here
@Willie_Pete_Was_Here Жыл бұрын
F1 has been trying to get Audi and Porsche to join since 2014, they’re so desperate for new engine manufacturers. Context: F1 switched to hybrid engines in 2014 in an effort to attract manufacturers but all this resulted in was Honda joining.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
F1? Never heard of her.
@Nickle_King
@Nickle_King Жыл бұрын
I agree with Platoon when he says that we’ve been hearing KK’s getting fired rumors since The Last Jedi. I won’t believe it until it happens at this point. It is a very nice rumor each time though. That being said, why hasn’t Disney fired her yet is the real question. She is costing them money by the truckload and evaporated good will with the efficiency of a supernova. What is she doing for the company? What dirt does she have?
@pfmcdermott1
@pfmcdermott1 Жыл бұрын
I hope the worst thing that happens to me is I get forced out of my job with enough money to enjoy spending the rest of my life doing whatever I want to.
@tallerwarrior1256
@tallerwarrior1256 Жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for John Favreau because he was originally hired to just work on one show, which he was even hesitant to do at first before they hired Dave Filoni as co show runner. Now he has to be in charge of basically a broken franchise where it started off great with the end of season 2 perfectly setting up a bright future with Boba Fett getting his own show, Gina Carano’s Cara Dune getting her show, Ahsoka getting her own show, and Mando going on to do his own things separate from Baby Yoda. There was also a ton of separate Star Wars content like other spin off shows, animated content, and films. However everything changed when Disney fired Gina Carano and cancelled Rangers, then Boba Fett was an absolute disaster of a show with the studio freaking out and trying to turn it into the most bland accessible television series that needed to set up Mando season 3 for some reason even though Mando season 3 could’ve just had that set up in season 3. This led to Boba Fett being a rushed critical failure. One bright thing however that is going on in the Disney Star Wars galaxy is Ahsoka which seems to be going strong except for one small problem which is Dave Filoni. This series has taken that man’s full attention which hasn’t allowed him to take the time to equally work on other Star Wars content except for maybe Bad Batch. Boba Fett, Mando, and most importantly Kenobi (which was the biggest screw up Disney has made since the sequels) have all started to fall apart because clearly that creative spark is missing. It’s not Jon Favreau that has made these series and characters work, it’s Dave Filoni and Ahsoka has taken that man’s full attention. Anyways most of the announced Star Wars films have been cancelled and Mando season 3 is currently directionless. Season 3 honestly feels like we’re all just beating the left over side quests after completing the main story missions of the series. So yeah bright future ahead of Star Wars!
@TheQuadLaunchers
@TheQuadLaunchers Жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize it until reading your comment, but yeah, Ahsoka is about the only show I’m holding out hope for. I’ll keep watching Mando and Bad Batch unless it takes an Areoverse nosedive..but yeah. I guess I’m just kinda done. And as good as Andor was, I still forget it exists.
@SkintSNIPER262
@SkintSNIPER262 Жыл бұрын
Filoni and Favro have done their own share of ruining the lore
@straightjacket308
@straightjacket308 Жыл бұрын
I said this a while ago on one of Doomcock's Star wars videos a while ago and I'll say it here as well: seeing Disney possessing the brand of Star wars in both their physical appearances at the parks and in the form of movies and TV shows like I'm looking at a bunch of dolphins and Shamu at SeaWorld being restricted of their freedom in the open ocean. It's almost cruel to see how Disney has completely robbed this amazing franchise of that sensation that you would have when you found out that a new Star wars movie was coming out. Remember the excitement that you felt when you first saw those laser swords beaming from those little flashlight looking things, then when you found out that the movies were going to explain Darth Vader's origin almost 15 years later? Well unfortunately we'll never get that sensation with this franchise again. In the same goes with the Marvel franchise, and even the DC franchise. I remember people being so excited for Batman begins that people left and right were wearing some sort of Batman paraphernalia in preparation. Now the magic truly has gone.
@7thwheel
@7thwheel Жыл бұрын
They used to be sacred. People would wait on line for them for days. Can you imagine anyone caring about the next set of Star Wars movies enough to camp out overnight?
@michaelmoore2679
@michaelmoore2679 Жыл бұрын
9_9 Doomcock has been predicting KK’s firing every week for like 8 years now. More likely she’ll retire peacefully. And then he’ll still claim he was right somehow.
@kronozord8346
@kronozord8346 Жыл бұрын
Im surprised that the drinker quotes anything that guy says, even the little platton roasted doomcock.
@DarthTrader707
@DarthTrader707 Жыл бұрын
How do you make a trilogy without a story arc? If you submitted that as a project idea at USC film school, you'd receive a big fat F. "I'm going to make a trilogy, but I'm only going to write the first part, film it, and then bring in brand new writer to decide what to do in part, three. Then, I'll wrap up the trilogy by having someone else write the third part, deciding what they want the third act to be."
@9VENDETTA
@9VENDETTA Жыл бұрын
That shade towards DoomCock... *_oof._*
@Wonderboywonderings
@Wonderboywonderings Жыл бұрын
My theory: Doomcock is controlled opposition and his secret "inside source" is Kathleen Kennedy herself.
@9VENDETTA
@9VENDETTA Жыл бұрын
@@Wonderboywonderings Lol. That would be a genius grift, to be fair; if it was true.
@Wonderboywonderings
@Wonderboywonderings Жыл бұрын
@darthrevan1281 learn how controlled opposition works, and why.
@evilemperorzurg9615
@evilemperorzurg9615 Жыл бұрын
I’m firmly of the opinion that KK has dirt on a lot of big players in Hollywood. I mean she was Steven Spielbergs assistant for years and we all know how Hollywood is. I think they haven’t fired her because she may even have dirt on Bon Iger.
@MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle
@MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle Жыл бұрын
The Rain Johnson coming in at the 11th hour to "save" Lucasfilm is so funny.
@firstlast9846
@firstlast9846 Жыл бұрын
*Feels weird that STAR WARS* is a television universe now - instead of a cinematic “must see” event in theatres
@rbowdenscipio3408
@rbowdenscipio3408 Жыл бұрын
And it's not even must-see TV.
@firstlast9846
@firstlast9846 Жыл бұрын
@@rbowdenscipio3408 damn that's even worse
@nilesrodriguez4343
@nilesrodriguez4343 Жыл бұрын
I'm tempted to write a star wars script. It can't be that hard to outwrite the current star wars productions being put out right now
@captainz9
@captainz9 Жыл бұрын
As long as you have at least one strong empowered Mary Sue that can do no wrong, a white man who is a laughably incompetent bumbling fool, and several token minorities including a transsexual robot, I'm sure they'll accept your script right away.
@leakyboat224
@leakyboat224 Жыл бұрын
Go for it. Even if it's something that no one else sees. If you redraft once then you'll be doing better than Rian Johnson, and he writes "professionally." Maybe you'll find that you really like writing :)
@budabnett2382
@budabnett2382 Жыл бұрын
I'd honestly like to see drinker write the script for an Old Republic Trilogy
@ALeCoq112
@ALeCoq112 Жыл бұрын
he probably needs to play knights of the old republic games and that Old republic MMO to bring himself up to speed with the existing Lore.
@genyatus
@genyatus Жыл бұрын
​@@ALeCoq112He probably should ignore the MMO
@ALeCoq112
@ALeCoq112 Жыл бұрын
@@genyatus Possibly. I know nothing about it's story, so can't really give an opinion on it. I have played the knights a lot though. Great games and story.
@genyatus
@genyatus Жыл бұрын
@@ALeCoq112 Certain parts of SWTOR really retcons or ruins the Kotors, especially Kotor 2 and the Exile. There are high points here and there, but the MMO is indicative of BioWare's issues with good writing.
@ALeCoq112
@ALeCoq112 Жыл бұрын
@@genyatus Damn, I liked kotor 2 more than the first one and hearing that is infuriating.
@masteronionnorth2341
@masteronionnorth2341 Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest unsolved mysteries of the modern age, will be how the frack did Kennedy manage to keep her job, despite literally running Star Wars into the ground.
@rhob2422
@rhob2422 Жыл бұрын
They just really screwed up by attacking, alienating, and gaslighting fans. Customers and what they want drive business, you don't get to tell them what they will like. Its simple really, but not for Disney for whatever reason.
@dj1NM3
@dj1NM3 Жыл бұрын
What really has to be kept in mind is that Disney paid a total of $4billion for Lucasfilm, so it already had a massive financial hole to dig itself out of before there is much chance of profits.
@matejerdos8878
@matejerdos8878 Жыл бұрын
Maybe George could buy back LF for a discount at 1 Billion, cancel all new stuff and make new movies? :)
@homewardboundphotos
@homewardboundphotos Жыл бұрын
Disney executed the most masterfully conceived plan to find a way to make star wars and marvel fans hate star wars and marvel movies. not just, not be that interested in, like actively hate. taking an audience that is primed with everything inside them to WANT to like your product and making them all hate you is an amazing achievement. I didn't think it was possible, but they did it.
@matejerdos8878
@matejerdos8878 Жыл бұрын
They did even better than that. I came to the point I don't really care. Probably will never watch anything new from star wars, currently I am more interested in reviews about how bad it is, it is much more entertaining than TFA and TLJ. Since TLJ I am not interested in watching any SW.
@homewardboundphotos
@homewardboundphotos Жыл бұрын
@@matejerdos8878 disney has become the soulless embodiment of the machine. its almost comical how much of a trope they are.
@GreatFox42
@GreatFox42 Жыл бұрын
@@matejerdos8878 Even "better" they've retroactively killed my interest in everything that came before. _I_ didn't think that was possible, not for me anyway, but here we are. Now everytime I look at Star Wars I just get sad. I was a big EU nerd in my teens; like I was practically a historian for a galaxy far far away. The quality was up and down, sure, but really that's every major media franchise (it's why I didn't buy for a moment that the "new" EU would have better quality control. From _Disney._ yeah okay). Losing 30 years of collaborative history, a _consistent_ history (which again wasn't always perfect, but even works penned by a single author can sometimes have continuity flubs. I think the hierarchy system that was put in place was the best way to go, because errors are inevitable and the hierarchy accounted for that, rather than relying on the naive belief that every error will be caught if you try hard enough), that _really_ killed a lot of my interest. The idea that 99% of every piece of the franchise you consumed, from the movies to a level in a game, actually "happened" insofar as the greater canon. You can't make up for 30 of history like that (Especially not with the new EU basically ripping off the old EU except worse). And even the movies are less enjoyable for me now. Sure, the original six films were all made free from the shackles of the EU (notably breaking it at one point and leading to the Ruusan reformation retcon), and I could easily enjoy them separate from the rest of the EU, and often did. But I won't pretend it wasn't cool seeing every background character, knowing their name, species, origin, and favorite color. Still, I could live without it. But even with that removed, it's just...I don't know. It's hard to explain. But going back to the original six, even my absolute favorites (E3 and E6 represent!), the sense of heroic optimism the films presented, or the setup for the endgame in the prequels... It just feels pointless and hopeless, now. Maybe it's because the disney trilogy rendered it that way, and I'm for some reason unable to separate the original six from them, or maybe I just mourn the loss of George Lucas' touch. He wasn't perfect, but the Star Wars saga was his and nobody else's. No one else could have made Star Wars like he did, for better and for worse. Seeing the spearhead(s) of any series or project leave always stings, at least for me. Even if it can sometimes be for the better, it still always feels like that personal touch is lost. i dunno why i decided to reply to a month-old comment with this rant
@JarinXeno
@JarinXeno Жыл бұрын
This is why you don't make a glorified secretary head of your studio.
@MarklovesAngels
@MarklovesAngels Жыл бұрын
bingo
@scubadaddy3217
@scubadaddy3217 Жыл бұрын
Part of the reason the newer Star Wars movies from Disney did alright was because most of the average fans didn't know about "The Message" and went in rather naïve and blind to the agenda. Once peoples eyes began to be open, they simply can't un-see "The Message" in all these movies! I told a friend about "The Message" a while back and he watched the newest Doctor Strange and he said, "The entire time I was thinking, yep, he's right, it's a M-SHE-U and girl bosses movie!" Because men suck and women are awesome don't you know!
@rockys201
@rockys201 Жыл бұрын
Kathleen Kennedy should go down in the Guinness Book Of Records as the worst movie manager in history
@rockys201
@rockys201 Жыл бұрын
@Darth Revan at least Tommy Wiseau created a movie that people actually like, and like him as well
@magma_fire_bagwan
@magma_fire_bagwan Жыл бұрын
I pray that KK gets booted out once Indy 5 doesn't make money. If KK doesn't get booted out now, she won't ever leave :/ Her ghost will be presiding over the entirety of Lucasfilm until the sun expands and swallows the earth.
@theresearcher253
@theresearcher253 Жыл бұрын
Surely The Rise of Skywalker killed Star Wars? They turned The Force from this esoteric, mystical power that you could tap into given training into magic healing, magic telepathy, magic projection - basically, the Force does anything the plot wants it to do. Every superpower must have at least one limiting factor. Superman isn't Superman without Kryptonite.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
They gave Rey the Paladin ability 'Lay Hands'.. just walking around healing people like Lothar. "that's not how the force works"
@johnnhoj6749
@johnnhoj6749 Жыл бұрын
It's an indication of how bloated, indecisive and full of bureaucracy these productions have become that a deadline of over 18 months is considered impossible. This despite all the technology which SHOULD be making the process a lot quicker than it was in the days of shooting and completing on film. The writing isn't even starting from a blank sheet of paper. The world is all there and populated with a multitude of existing characters. A competent TV writer of the 1960s would have had a decent outline in a few days and a better draft script than any of recent memory in a couple of weeks. Of course it would then require the production to more or less stick to that script and not frig around with ever-changing CGI and reshoots lasting longer than many great films got in total. Produce a good, solid sci-fi action adventure which just works and fans and not-particularly fans will embrace it with relief.
@JasonRasmussen
@JasonRasmussen Жыл бұрын
10:33 In Iger's book he said Force Awakens was bashed together and shot on almost a draft.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
That one was a real turd floater.
@TwiceTheBitsGames
@TwiceTheBitsGames Жыл бұрын
The parallels between Lucasfilm and 343 Industries is incredible. Both taken over by incompetent managers when the original visionaries left. Both Halo and Star Wars suffer from a lack of vision
@solidus0079
@solidus0079 Жыл бұрын
They fired Carano, which tanked the Rangers of the New Republic show - requiring them to absorb the plot elements from that show into The Mandalorian to keep their intended story plans. I'm pretty certain the Doctor Pershing episode for example, would have been told in the Rangers show. Then there's the "bring Grogu back immediately" thing, which I think is a clear case of Studio Meddling. That led to the jarring Book of Boba Fett stuff and recaps and retreads in the Mandalorian that would have not been needed if Grogu returned later (which I assume was the original plan).
@gunkulator1
@gunkulator1 Жыл бұрын
Carano did Disney a favor by giving them an (admittedly feeble) excuse to fire her. She's an absolutely terrible actress, stiff and completely wooden. Brie Larson expresses more emotion. Friggin' Bill Burr acted circles around her. Any series centered around her would have been a disaster.
@mcameron6031
@mcameron6031 Жыл бұрын
I love how people call carano a terrible actress while not acknowledging Pascal...dude is a literal block of wood....
@Real_Deal
@Real_Deal Жыл бұрын
The Critical Drinker and The Little Platoon are the dream team of movie critique. These guys are great to listen to.
@gravelrash4870
@gravelrash4870 Жыл бұрын
I've worked as an Associate Producer etc, sure you organize a lot but the producer is the creative element, not the associate. Had a show dropped on me and it is way harder than it looks, I eventually declined as knew I couldn't do it properly. Kennedy and others like her are glorified secretaries, they havened earned the right to be creators, their egos fail to acknowledge what the audience can see, they are inept and have no creative talent.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone is an artist. Not many people, if we're honest. I've never met a genuine artist that can be creative from 9-5 daily, that is not how inspiration works. A true artist will find passion in something and become completely consumed by it, this isn't a 9-5 process. Kurt Cobain was an artist, he wrote in bursts of inspiration, not emerging for weeks on end, finally emerging unshowered, looking like a homeless man, with a piece of art that he had just obsessed to the point the rest of the world vanished while he created it, as did he. His creative genius didn't happen at the office after his scheduled morning routine. "ok, now is the scheduled time to be inspired and creative"
@fr2331
@fr2331 Жыл бұрын
I was not prepared for the most horrifying jump scare I've ever seen at the end.
@ProtonCannon
@ProtonCannon Жыл бұрын
2:47 EXACTLY THIS. We have been hearing that "Cathleen Kennedy is done" "Cathleen Kennedy will be gone soon" etc for years and YEARS and yet she is still around. What are the odds that she will be gone this time huh?
@sigurdholbarki8268
@sigurdholbarki8268 Жыл бұрын
Two pretty big scalps gone in the last fortnight, and the economic conditions are right. Lucas Films haven't released anything in cinemas since Solo, so I can well believe she will "retire" if Indiana Jones bombs, or being set up for a fail if they don't get a Star Wars Movie out by 2025
@Moray2023
@Moray2023 Жыл бұрын
Just watch them repurpose The Acolyte into a Film for 2025.
@ValkyrissaGaming
@ValkyrissaGaming Жыл бұрын
Lucasfilm isn’t dying - it’s being Kathleen Kennedy’d
@simonhandy962
@simonhandy962 Жыл бұрын
It's running on zombie-fuel now..... basically an un-killable abomnination.....
@AkitoVR
@AkitoVR Жыл бұрын
If Andor was before Rogue One and we had a movie about the others of the cast. You'd have a pretty good set up and completion of the Rogue one team
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
The fan edit of that movie is much better, if you torrent, I suggest grabbing it. I believe it is called 'Rise of the Rebellion'.
@johnbuffo1870
@johnbuffo1870 Жыл бұрын
Disney's greatest crime, is not reuniting Han, Luke, and Leia. RIP
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu Жыл бұрын
See, I don't agree with you there. Great stories need an element of tragedy, and Luke finding out to his horror that Han died while he was in exile felt fitting to me. Granted, there were so many things I agree they did terribly wrong with the sequel trilogy, but they did hit a few good notes. The major problem as I see it is that Episode 8 was permitted to derail elements that 7 had put in place and 9's problem was that too much of the first half had to be cobbled out of unused footage because Carrie Fisher had died and they could no longer make major changes that required reshoots. 9 raised a middle finger to much of 8's fuckery, but again it had to spend too much of the runtime doing it.
@7thwheel
@7thwheel Жыл бұрын
It was the movie equivalent of getting all the Beatles back together and then deciding to have them play separate venues.
@zer0sinder
@zer0sinder Жыл бұрын
That cheeky bastard platoon not only dropping hate on Doomcock but Americans dying quicker... 🤨
@dub2459
@dub2459 Жыл бұрын
The problem in Hollywood is more than just Disney unfortunately, I already saw an article about John Wick doesn’t need Keanu…get ready for relatable assassins
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
Damn toxic Keanu.. worst dude out! They need to cast that critical race theory moron from the woman kAng, and go all in on slavery.... for a change.
@calvinjohnstone2664
@calvinjohnstone2664 Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the Further Adventures of Rose Tico. That'll be dynamite.
@Bow-to-the-absurd
@Bow-to-the-absurd Жыл бұрын
A new star wars film will take at least 2 years to make. No way a movie will be ready by end of 2025
@zaryalace7475
@zaryalace7475 Жыл бұрын
The problem with Lucasfilm is they didn't correct course at TLJ. Assuming their box office peformance to represent the quality of their turd. And now they've dug a hole too deep for them to get out of.
@Ryan-vl2nn
@Ryan-vl2nn Жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely mind-boggling that Kennedy’s still, STILL employed after her treatment/mistreatment of Lucasfilm and it’s several IP’s.
@rijoenpial
@rijoenpial Жыл бұрын
I think Disney actually gave Kennedy a lifeline because if their demand to her was to just make a SW movie with no other demands, she can just make a movie, ANY type of SW movie, and keep her job... This is like Sony just having to get a Spiderman movie out from time to time to keep the Spiderman movie rights...
@keithrobinson5752
@keithrobinson5752 Жыл бұрын
The lesson hear is don't put the person whose job was to fetch the coffee in charge of your most viable and valuable asset and expect them to do a good job in using it.
@iratecynic6745
@iratecynic6745 Жыл бұрын
Little Platoon being savage isn't what I expected
@archstanton9073
@archstanton9073 Жыл бұрын
You didn't?
@sigurdholbarki8268
@sigurdholbarki8268 Жыл бұрын
Sarcasm? I thought savage was Platoon's default setting
@iratecynic6745
@iratecynic6745 Жыл бұрын
@@sigurdholbarki8268 Wasn't being sarky. His bit about waiting for Kathleen Kennedy's age to intersect with the national average lifespan made me choke on my drink.
@b.chaline4394
@b.chaline4394 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to Jon Favreau, I keep thinking of that promotional interview for BoBF with Temuera Morrison and Ming Na-Wen, in which Temuera says that he (righly) found that Boba "talked too much" and took upon himself to call Favreau about it... and Favreau was in a plane, seemingly having other things on his plate and replying "yeah yeah, whatever". Surely that's not how a property like BoBF, and SW at large, should be handled. But whether it's Favreau, Rian Johnson, Taika Waititi or JJ Abrams, all Lucasfilm seems to do is to rely on "flavor of the month" directors who never fully commit themselves to the franchise; the only two exceptions being Tony Gilroy and Dave Filoni, but the former is a self-confessed "non Star Wars fan" who uses the SW universe as a background for this political thriller stuff while the latter is an animated series exec who has no business doing live action products. Is there really no one in Hollywood who wants to be fully in charge of Star Wars, who wants to become the real heir of George Lucas like Berman was for Roddenberry? I find that hard to believe.
@Garek_George
@Garek_George Жыл бұрын
Berman got ahead of himself and screwed the pooch with a series of mediocre ST films that put TNG into its death spiral. BUT … no ST movie series is worse than JJ’s.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
All these directors are pretty mediocre. My faith in Jon Faverau has definitely declined and depleted immensely
@7thwheel
@7thwheel Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why Rick McCallum wasn't contacted about running Star Wars. He would have been a much better choice.
@Retrofun69
@Retrofun69 Жыл бұрын
I miss Cannon films
@justinmiller3883
@justinmiller3883 Жыл бұрын
If its true that Iger said that to Kennedy I will gladly boycott the Indiana Jones movie to get that woman fired. Not that I was going to watch it anyway, i avoided the last one like the plague as the series had a great finish with Last Crusade, no need to ruin it after that but they did anyway.
@jasonmussett2129
@jasonmussett2129 Жыл бұрын
Why do we need Indy 5? The last one was bad enough🤔
@insertoyouroemail
@insertoyouroemail Жыл бұрын
I am just following this stuff as a study in brand destruction.
@scatton61
@scatton61 Жыл бұрын
The Farce is female
@whenpigsfly8178
@whenpigsfly8178 Жыл бұрын
The Farts
@skylx0812
@skylx0812 Жыл бұрын
A woman driver at the helm.
@wantutosigh1117
@wantutosigh1117 Жыл бұрын
Kathleen Kennedy has ruined all of Lucasfilm's IP's. After Indy, Lucasfilm has nothing. Kathleen Kennedy is absolutely responsible.
@JimmyMFP
@JimmyMFP Жыл бұрын
Yes, 8:30, a classic mistake I see companies make time and time again.. “this is where we are making the most income, so this is where we need to focus our efforts,” without considering the influencing factors in other areas; oftentimes these areas are big for revenue because they’re built on something bigger, rather than simply being the sole attraction of customers.
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 Жыл бұрын
There's just too many qualified experts at Disney. When I heard Disney proudly boasting about their tight hiring process, I knew that was the problem. You can't measure imagination and creativity with a test. Walt Disney himself would have never got his foot in the door.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
Kurt Cobain would have been laughed at. No degree, no formal music training, couldn't hold down a 9-5. Real artists don't create art from 9-5 in an office as part of a committee.
@Wonderboywonderings
@Wonderboywonderings Жыл бұрын
How do you make a multimillion dollar franchise? You sell a multibillion dollar franchise to Disney.
@pftburchell5197
@pftburchell5197 Жыл бұрын
Without the Asoka show resetting the timeline, Star Wars is doomed.
@therealryan1329
@therealryan1329 Жыл бұрын
Stop hiring people who don't know or care about the IP. Fairly simple fix.
@diegojimenez6087
@diegojimenez6087 Жыл бұрын
This is where you end up when you hire people who don’t like the IP, and don’t like the IPs existing audience or that they’d have to produce something said audience would enjoy. Maybe if they built half the writers/producers/directors salary into the financial success of projects, there would be incentive.
@rhys5958
@rhys5958 Жыл бұрын
Disney need to come out and renew their promise to consumers, and commit to providing them with high quality content above all else, and anyone within the company that doesn’t align with these necessary values from then on will be shown the door.
@barnabusdoyle4930
@barnabusdoyle4930 Жыл бұрын
The only way Disney could pull that off would be to ditch Disney+
@machinech183
@machinech183 Жыл бұрын
Pure pipe dream. Disney is done because they've destroyed their reputation. Disney married themselves to woke, rainbow, and reduction of parental rights. As sentiment continues to turn against that it'll only get worse for Disney. Florida was the only thing keeping them afloat in the theme park industry and the financial benefits there just got nuked. My guess is they'll decline until their only existence is merchandise, movies, and an online presence. I expect the parks will be gone without a real miracle. Good riddance to them. Walt would be livid.
@matthewmagda4971
@matthewmagda4971 Жыл бұрын
They did that before The Force Awakens. That commitment lasted for 1.5 movies.
@ITSAHARDNUGLIFE
@ITSAHARDNUGLIFE Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't believe any promises of theirs. That trust is long gone for a lot of us.
@samblack5313
@samblack5313 Жыл бұрын
You can't fire 1 activist without a full blown war, look at alonso... imagine trying to fire them all. You can't fix it, and I don't care if you do. Go get money off the new audience you spat in my face for, it will never come from me again.
@Aikurisu
@Aikurisu Жыл бұрын
I grew up with Star Wars. Favourite franchise in the world. Loved practically everything that came out for it. The toys, games, films, you name it. Now? I sigh when I walk past the toy line at my local store because nothing is selling. I don't even feel compelled to pick up anything for myself because the spark just isn't there anymore. Andor was the last thing I genuinely enjoyed and I haven't touched anything since. I don't even care for the animated shows anymore. The Scribbles of Fredo Fett was the last straw for me.
@rbowdenscipio3408
@rbowdenscipio3408 Жыл бұрын
I went to a local comics and collectibles store and all of the Star Wars toys were at the front. I figured he didn't particularly care if they got stolen.
@stevejohnson6248
@stevejohnson6248 Жыл бұрын
I like the Mandalorian theory that season 1 was primarily taken from the scrapped Boba Fet movie and that's why the writing has steadily gone down hill. Kind of like when the ran out of GoT material.
@austinbevis4266
@austinbevis4266 Жыл бұрын
Her only successes were caused by the return of Star Wars because that’s basically a major cultural moment, whether the movies were good or not
@DemmieG4
@DemmieG4 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the "The force is female" t-shirts I knew it was going down hill eventually. So said, so done.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower Жыл бұрын
Disney does it to literally every media group they have got the last nine years.
@noylj1
@noylj1 Жыл бұрын
Nine years? Try about 30 years. They bought a lot of great cartoons and turned them into boring and "safe."
@undead9999
@undead9999 Жыл бұрын
Remember the time in which people would say "star wars is just too big of an IP to fail"? well, that didn't age well...
@andrewj1754
@andrewj1754 Жыл бұрын
He needed a droid as a companion because he was supposed to have no Grogu. It needed to be an Astromech so it could fly back to Bo Katan and get her to help when he got captured on Mandalore. Studio notes meant Grogu returned in Book of Boba Fett, and they tried to pigeon hole Grogu back into Mando's story without changing much. Its why Grogu doesn't have much to do during the story.
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