9:10 "watching movie by The Rock is like going to McDonalds, you probably done it 100 times and dont remember it" is a beautiful Drinker quote

If Hollywood knew what they were doing, Henry Cavill would be the next James Bond

Tom Cruise totally gets what people want, the fact he's in a minority is so sad.

Henry Cavil will do what ever it takes to have the physicality required for a role, he is a great actor and by all accounts he is about as sane and kind as a person in narcissistic Hollywood can be yet he gets buried. Yet somehow we can’t get rid of Ezra Miller who is an abusive monster. That says all we need to know about Hollywood.

'Movie Stars' weren't seen as real people, they were brands. Will Smith was Action/comedy, Arnold Schwarzenegger was Action, Tim Allen was comedy, Humphry Bogart was 'Drama'. It was simple and people flocked to them because they knew what type of movie they were going to get. These days it is the total opposite. Actors are exposed now and their personal lives bleed into the movies and the advertising surrounding the movies. The only reason Tom Cruise is still a star is because he follows that formula. He is Action and that's his brand.

Love that comment! "We were looking for a young Tom Cruise? Then Old Tom Cruise said FUCK it i'll do it myself!" It's SO True :)

Keanu Reeves has often lowered his salary on a film to enable another actor he liked to be given a role. He's so authentic and generous to people he respects. No big ego, no selfishness, just a hardworking actor.

Tarantino: "The movie star is dead". Scorcese: "Cinema is dead." (My paraphrasing). They're both right but Scorcese more so. Without good *film* how can you have a good *film star?*

Expectations for SHAZAM 2 antagonists: Black Adam, Mr. Mind and Dr. Sivana. Reality for SHAZAM 2 antagonists: Greek Mythological Grannies.

They say you should never meet your heroes, I say seeing their vapid opinions on social media is even worse. RIP to the movie star, you should have kept your mouth shut

Tom Cruise truly is the last of a dying breed. He still really cares about movies and the process of making them, and he really cares what the audience thinks of his movies. And he always tries to bring a certain level of authenticity to the films he makes. Like, if it can be done practically instead of using CGI, he’s gonna try to do it. I really respect that kind of dedication to your craft. He’s always scaling skyscrapers, jumping off cliffs, and jumping out of planes just to get that perfect shot. He’s not out to make any personal statements or win any awards with his films, he just wants to make enjoyable movies that are fun for people to watch. The Last Samurai is still one of my favorite movies ever made. And Cruise has shown that he possesses the acting chops to be successful in any genre. He was hilarious in Tropic Thunder, he was able to hold his own dramatically with Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men, and he’s obviously been very successful with action films like Top Gun and Mission Impossible, as that genre is his bread and butter. He’s the quintessential movie star. And Tom Cruise doesn’t just shit out movies to add something else to his catalog. He’s at the stage of his career now that if he works on a film, it’s usually something special that caught his eye or something he cares about. You don’t see many actors like him anymore, most of them are too concerned with themselves instead of the quality of the overall product.

Drinker nailed it, 100%. It’s the lack of care for the final product. The apathy for the movie making experience is carrying over into the performances of the actors. They show very little emotion and just seem to be going through the motions of acting instead of really getting in touch with their character and what the character is going through. It’s like Kristen Stewart in Twilight, as in a plank of wood could have emoted better than her. Because the number one rule of movies that the “modern movie-makers” have seem to have forgotten, if the characters don’t care about what they’re going through, why should we? We were there and experiencing terror with the mom in the Shining. Our hearts were ripped out for the death of Artax in the Neverending Story. We felt every brutal second of the execution of John Coffee in the Green Mile. Because we had become invested. Our hearts were carefully led to the place the director wanted it to go because we knew we were not alone. Our pain, our joy, our sorrow was being shared by the other characters. We knew this because we saw it. We became comfortable enough to allow ourselves to feel.

CRUISE is the only Actor that has worked with Coppolla, Kubrick, Scorsese & Spielberg He became the biggest movie star in the world by doing pure Dramas .. especially the first 20 years of his Career He's the GOAT of GOATS

The Rock is at an interesting point in his career as an actor. His rise as an A-list megastar in the 2010s really cemented his "brand" as well as his on screen persona. However, he doesn't really have a defining role as an actor. As Drinker pointed out he kinda just plays The Rock in every movie. Arnold is the Terminator, but he's also had a string of iconic and influential movies like Predator, Total Recall, and hell even True Lies. Stallone has Rocky and Rambo but has also had times in his career where he showed that he is an extremely capable actor. He's an academy award nominee and the first Rocky won Best Picture. Bruce Willis is John McClane but has starred in alot of big influential films like Arnold (Pulp Fiction, 12 Monkeys) while also showing he's a capable actor (Sixth Sense). Keanu for all the flak he's gotten for his percieved acting limitations has so many iconic roles and movies that have kept him working into his late 50s. Bill and Ted, Point Break, Speed, the Matrix films, and of course, John Wick. The Rock is The Rock for all that's worth. And if he wants the 2020s and beyond to be as lucrative as the previous decade, he needs to start taking more risks as an actor. He doesn't have to completely shy away from his generically charming action star schtick. But he does have to show that he's capable of more than just wrecking dudes and smiling on screen. He has to show that he has range and is willing to compromise his invincible onscreen persona for roles that will take him out his comfort zone. Oscar bait films are not the answer, but I think we would all like to see him do something that requires him to do more than just flex his muscles and throw out cheesy jokes. It's getting stale and I hope he realizes it before it's too late

Brendan Fraser did an incredible job in Gods and Monsters, Crash, and Extraordinary Measures, but most people haven't watched those movies, or don't even know about them. One of the issues is most people only remember him for genre films and don't realize he has done roles beyond those. I think it's why people are so shocked when they saw him in The Whale--they had no idea it was in him, and it always has been.

Thinking about the great films Henry Cavil could now be doing if Hollywood was still how it used to be makes me hate Hollywood even more

Critical Drinker and The Boys: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?" The Rock: *"I AM THE HYPE!!!!"*

Clint Eastwood's son Scott would have been a big movie star if his career had started in the early 90s.

*Dwayne Johnson’s failed takeover at DC leads him back to Fast and Furious* and already he’s got his own spin off movie in that franchise coming out… it’s literally all about him.

Drinker is 100% right i love old movies like 1930s -2005 , movie stars used to make a horrible low budget set and silly writing into classics just by being there!

The Rock is crumbling because of his mountain-level ego and narcissistic view of priding himself to be the pigeonholed Big Tough Guy who never loses and can never accept any roles that don't let him do that. A one trick pony.

Henry cavil deserves so much, and the fact he’s willing to call out writers is something we need so much more of

Jeremy called The Rock a 'manufactured movie star,' but that wasn't always a bad thing. You can say a lot of things about the 30s, 40s and 50's Studio system, but they knew exactly how to manufacture stars. But it was because the people they chose had charisma, screen presence and could actually act.

My problem with The Rock is he plays the same character in EVERY movie. He's always the comedy goofy character that makes jokes to break tension and it's usually in some crazy over the top action film. He desperately needs a movie where he's serious 100% through it AND has a good plot.

The Rock is a literal ROCK in the movie industry.

Because nowadays it's not about the money, it's about sending the message.

Tom Cruise Retrospective: The Teen Heartthrob Era - 1983-1988 The Serious Actor Era - 1989-1999 The Jackie Chan Era - 2000-Present

I can’t remember the last time I was excited to see a movie because of its cast.. except for jack black in Mario

Gotta love someone like Keanu Reeves. He puts everything in his performance and actually contributed his money to make his movies better and to get extra actors into movies he makes. Sure, he had 3 movie franchises that he's going to be remembered for but you see in his work and what he does behind the scenes that he's actually interested in making some good movies that draw audiences.

The Rock during the Attitude Era was a pretty great villain. I remember being excited to see him in The Rundown. Now, seeing "Johnny Dicklez and the Nutless Squirrel starring the Rock" is almost a meme at this point....

TOM CRUISE skipping the Oscars was such a Boss move ! What a LEGEND 😂

I agree with Drinker, Alan Ritchson should be a big star. He was hilarious in Blue Mountain State, and what I saw of Reacher he acquitted himself very well. And he's got presence. Not just his imposing physique, but his personality and natural charisma.

Imagine that Ian McKellen was sitting alone in a green-room while filming The Hobbit and the dude started crying while murmuring "This is not why I became an actor." It just shows there are still actors who care for their craft.

The Rock has the range of a rock.

Plot twist: Uncle Phil set up Will with Jada as long term revenge

Rocks fellow wrestling friend, Dave Batista. Just check his work , he really tries to find serious filmmakers and perform role/turn into character. I got loads of respect for him because of that. His Blade Runner 2049 part is better than anything Rock did

The Rock isn't actually easy to work with, though. Didn't he demand Black Adam wouldn't be a villain, ruining Shazam 2?

Henry Cavill is someone I always remember from The Man from UNCLE. His passion for The Witcher made him a pariah within Hollywood because god forbid he cares about what he is making. Hopefully, with Warhammer, Henry Cavill can show how he deserves to be a movie star.

I still feel there’s some out there, Cruise, Crow, Bale…but they are a dying breed

I think one of the simplest reasons movie stars are dying out is because they need good movies to back them up. If someone only appears in mid to bad movies, why should anyone get excited for what's to come? Part of the reason Tom Cruise and Christ Pratt have prominence is because they're in movies people actually like.

I'm going to say it again. Henry Cavill is awesome.

Im surprised the panel didn't discuss leo di capreo. He started out as a teen heart throb but he avoided being type cast, picked his scripts well, took on difficult roles, won an Oscar and his name is a draw.

The modern Era of the 2020s have killed the movie star. Entertainment, with a few exception of actual good films and shows that exist to entertain, are dead.

I would still include Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt as modern movie stars. Especially DiCaprio who’s still starring in quality films.

The Rock's best movie was "The Rundown"......from twenty years ago

I can understand the need of therapist on set. What I can't figure out for the life of me is the need of one for a fight scene where you are swinging a larp sword against a greenscreen.

Tom Hardy is about the only movie/tv actor that I'll watch something just because he's in it.

“You know that they are looking in a mirror; absolutely in a mirror…and it’s the beginning of a lifelong romance.” 😍 -Christopher Lee (in an interview)

Tom Cruise made movies like collateral, Interview with a Vampire, Tropic Thunder and A Few Good Men he's really an actor first and you don't see that much anymore

I've had enough of watching modern movies, so last night I decided to watch one that came out 53 years ago and it was brilliant. Richard Harris and Alec Guinness in Cromwell. Amazing acting, fantastic script and not one purple haired loon in sight.

Another great example of an intense performance is Noomi Rapace as Lisbeth Salander in Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Each film is very close to the books, and to follow her story, character arc up to the court case in the final film had me totally sold on her performance.

Whenever a movie has the Rock in it, I know I won't be watching it. I just don't like microwaved food enough to pay so much for it.

I could envisage John Wayne becoming a house hold name again when the Western revival replaces the slop that Marvel churns out once Disney's done with the licence.

"I'm one of the five people on the planet that likes terminator salvation." *Immediately cuts to black screen*

Taylor Kitsch was just in "The Terminal List" with Chris Pratt, and Taylor was great. I hope he gets the credit he deserves as a much better actor than biography would claim. And yes, "John Carter" was better than it's reputation, too!

Just wanted to say I loved watching the drinker seems so calm and chill this stream. Especially during 16:20, kinda warmed my heart seeing him make such an innocent joke with his mates.

Vin Diesel also did "Find Me Guilty" amazing underrated, The only thing I remember of The Rock was Scorpion King and Doom lol

The grand irony is the audience now has a better idea of what the world is actually like, but the film industry only exists in fantasy

The Rock’s most memorable movies were his earlier efforts. For me, the Rundown is his best film, and his supporting role in Be Cool was one of the highlights of the film!

Jai Courtney got a HUGE push from like 2012 to 2016 before he disappeared off the face of the earth

The days of macho film making are over. Think Lawrence of Arabia or Apocalypse Now. Christ, Martin Sheen had a heart attack in the middle of the jungle, recovered and went back to finish the movie. Just imagine what the Ride of the Valkyries scene would look like today. CGI rubbish, that was shot over 40 years ago. Having said that Tom Cruise is keeping the spirit alive.

People who watched blue mountain state knew how good of an actor alan was. Thad was a hilarious character

Thinking about Nic Gage, Liam Neeson, Hugh Jackman and to a smaller extent Keanu Reeves as well only getting good roles every now and then.

Vin Diesel is so memorable in Riddick and Chronicles of Riddick. plot sucked, cgi was real 2000'sy, but Diesel's performance stole the show for me. Granted, the character didnt have too much depth, but Diesel can really play the "unstoppable force" role

The Rock is basically like Stallone if Stallone was only famous for Rhinestone and F.I.S.T.

Ryan Reynolds is more of a star than Chris Pratt. Deadpool was not an easy thing to do, and you could see him paying his dues to pull it off in the worst wolverine movie and the worst blade movie. That guy deserves the world.

The way Henry Cavill has been screwed over so many times is heartbreaking!

Taylor Kitsch nailed it in Terminal List Jeremy, he's a great actor. Also, I like Terminator Salvation too, that makes 6 of us!

Small note: I love Terminator Salvation. I liked it at the time of release, and it's aged like wine after the release of Genesis and Dark Fate. It had a decent cast who could actually act and actually tried to expand on previous entries instead of just crapping on them.

Ed Norton getting fired from the hulk makes a lot more sense now.

What are you guys talking about, The Rock is awesome! Directed by Michael Bay, starring Nick Cage, Sean Connery and Ed Harris and music by Hans Zimmer, what's not to like?

0:52 Sean bean in LOTR didn’t like the helicopter ride up the mountain, so he’d set of super early, in full characters outfit and bike the f-ing mountain, then did his scene, of which was them, CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN! So it definitely came across in his performance.

John Carpenter made his actors work on freezing sets for the The Thing 1982 and it really shows. The actors were also freaked out by the practical effects. One of the best horror movies ever.

You have to go to the very artsy, smaller, original movies and shows to attain the level of quality that most films had before the current era of Hollywood. Shows like Atlanta, The Bear, Beef, Euphoria and most A24 movies like Good Time, Uncut Gems, Funny Pages, The Lighthouse, The Witch, Hereditary, and The Whale all were most likely made with 100% effort and sacrifice of the entire cast and crew and it definitely shows. You definitely won’t find the same level of quality control in a corporate product which is what most franchise films are.

I worked as a camera flyer at Perris Valley skydiving in Perris CA. They used have had a LOT of actors come there to learn to jump, typically for films: Tom Cruise (not sure the film); Patrick Swayze for Point break, etc. I worked there in the early 2000's for a season, and those guys had been there years before me. I was talking with someone a couple years ago that had been there, and was the stunt man for a lot of things (Austin Powers in the opening scene of 2; one of the bands members of Wilco for a video). He told me they used to have people from Hollywood there regularly, it was just something you got used to after a period. He was there for a couple years before Covid, and said that the only actors or musicians that he's seen come there by that point were the ones who are skydivers themselves and just jump for fun. You could make a justifiable argument that CGI has made it unnecessary for them to do it anymore, but I think that's a different thing all together. That's more of a statement of "practical vs CGI." I'm looking at it more in the context of films that were done with real people doing the stunts, and the fact that none of the actors today even fight to do their own stunts. I understand the whole insurance and liability argument, but there are still actors doing their own stunts in spite of that, and there are a lot of actors who constantly fight to do their own stunts in spite of the fact that they might not win. I think the younger generation of actors DO care about the work, it's just that their priorities are completely different from what they were in decades past. It does seem more about "them." Most actors have some narcissism to them to one degree or another, it's just one of those professions that attract that type, politicians are another. I don't really have an issue with self promotion, but it seems like the younger batch have gone to a whole nother (is that even a word? Google voice says it is) level. Now it's about self-idealization. It's like the films or shows are merely vehicles, a means to an end, at opposed to the ends themselves.

Keanu Reeves another one I think that’s a big bankable household name. He actually cares about making movies like Tom Cruise does. Keanu was big in the 90s with action films like Point Break, Speed, and The Matrix, and then he had a career resurgence of sorts in 2014 with the first John Wick film, then that franchise took off and became one of the biggest action franchises ever. I just think it’s cool how an actor that was big 30 years ago and was already known for iconic roles like Neo can come back in his 50s with another character and franchise that becomes even bigger than what he was known for before. John Wick as a character now is iconic, everyone knows who he is. It’s a rarity to get an original character like that nowadays that becomes iconic, since everything is comic book movies and remakes. John Wick is the only one I can think of in recent years.

It started with the studios, then the 'stars' came to the forefront, next came the directors. Now we're in the age of the IP, which effectively brings us back full circle to the studios since they own the IPs.

Back in the day, James Cameron was legendary for having brutally difficult sets. In the Abyss, he drove many of his actors to tears shooting that film. He had similar grueling shoots for his Terminator movies. Not sure about his later movies though.

Recently rewatched the bourne identity. It may not be entirely believable, but the amnesiac character still had more emotional pull and internal consistency than anything I've seen in the last few years

I think a lot of her earlier films were really good. The Rundown was good. he had a lot of charisma along with general strength vibe, but after a while he did just kind of become a meme.

Actors used to go through stuff. In the scene where Malcolm McDowell is being reprogrammed in A Clockwork Orange, apparently, those eye clamps were scraping Malcoms eyeballs, damaging his corneas and led to temporary blindness Could you imagine modern actors going through agony for their art? Hell, didn't they have to give Morfydd Clark counciling to deal with PTSD after the fight scenes in Rangs of Power?

In a commercial kitchen, we don't hold back with criticism, for the sake of good food and a great customer experience. I think the same holds true for entertainment. You have to be able to speak your mind if something tastes or smells like shit.

Did you know that The Rock voiced Cliffjumper in Transformers Prime animated show and he had his character killed off because he is not the main lead instead of Peter Cullen being Optimus Prime?

Love how the video just randomly ends at "I'm one of the 5 people who liked Terminator: Salvation". Poor guy doesn't even get a chance to justify himself.

Jaquien Phoenix had an incredible portrayl in joker. A lot of scenes had Phoenix improvising. I.e. the scene where he climbs in the fridge and there's a long drawn out shot of him just sitting in there. It makes for such a great scene and immersion experience having a cast member really embrace their character

Two things about movie starts that are essential are presence and mystery. A movie star doesn't need to be a great actor to command our attention. Social media, of course, has destroyed the mystery element. Before, we hardly knew anything about movie stars, yet we looked up to them and even related to them at times.

I bought The Blue Dahlia on DVD a few weeks ago and it was made in 1942 and it’s still a firm classic from the Golden Age of Hollywood and Alan Ladd, Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart & Cary Grant drew people to the cinemas with their ability, their looks, charm and suave demeanour but most importantly they knew their audiences & they played a multitude of different characters with the same qualities their respective audiences loved.

Idris Elba is another true movie star. Everything I've seen him in he's been excellent. Everywhere from the father in Beast, to Heimdall in the MCU and he was even great as Knuckles in Sonic 2!

The best performance of Dwayne Johnson is voicing Maui in "Moana" :P I am not a fan of Tom Cruise, but damn, he's the best thing in Tropic Thunder. Haven't seen that film in ages, need to rewatch it xd Taylor Kitsch appeared with Chris Pratt in The Terminal List.

Vin Diesel is excellent and very believable in Find Me Guilty. You'd be surprised how funny he can be.

the test for a movie star is: "would you still watch it if they cast someone else?" for the rock the answer is yes, you would. because you dont go to see it because he is in it, they could easily cast someone else but hes a nice safe play, and hes a friendly face for diverse casting so it plays into politics well, whereas caville is a white man and must therefore be avoided at all costs. we still call the rock "the rock" and that was his wrestling name...even now that is what he is most remembered for. he is not a movie star, he is safe way for corporations to tick the diversity box. thats all.

Sam Worthington has the charisma of a doorknob agreed. Michael Fassbender, despite having done some crap movies, is actually a phenomenal actor and one of the best working today. Taylor Kitsch is talented, very good in Friday Night Lights, but not really big movie star material in my opinion.

My favorite actor to watch of all time was Daniel Day Lewis. Man was able to make you believe the character was a real person.

I bought in to mainstreams media's smears on Tom Cruise 25 years ago, so I thought he was a jerk off even though I grew up to his movies, then I saw were that guy squirted water in his face at some premiere, and the way Cruise handled it completely changed my mind, first he called off his monster bodyguard who was about to hand the guy his ass and he had a hold on the guy's hand and just calmly asked the guy why would he do such a thing, he gained massive respect from me from that moment on, and I realized what a bunch of scumbags the media was... and here we are.

This is why Batista also does not like being compared to The Rock. He's stated before that he transitioned to ACTING so he wants and is looking for roles that will push his acting where he can learn and grow as an ACTOR not just a Rock big muscelly guy. I really like that. If you're becoming an actor, jump in, don't just put you toes in to be safe. Just go for it.

I remember a crazy video behind the scenes with Harrison Ford on the set of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" talking about losing his hat and Ford just taking a stapler to his head.. It was probably a joke but on some level it wouldn't surprise me either. Another great out take with "Rumble in the Bronx" showing Jackie Chan pulling a rubber mask that looked like a tennis shoe to cover a cast on his damn ankle and he's back to shooting... I don't see that in film today. Tom Cruise I think literally is the LAST movie star.

It's becoming a cliche, but we've reached the point where everyone under 35 was raised in "participation trophy" culture. Emotions like sadness, anger, disappointment, etc. are supposed to be dealt with to make our minds stronger. They're the equivalent of weights, running, etc. that make our bodies stronger. Instead of overcoming and moving past things, people wallow in misery or worse expect the world to change to suit them.

I was in the other room listening with my wireless headset and I burst laughing when Jeremy said "I'm one of the 5 people that likes Terminator Salvation" and then complete silence.... to realize the video had ended.

“People are hungry for movie stars”… well there’s our problem 🤦‍♂️

Ryan , Taylor K was great in recent show that everyone liked. Show about marine with Chris Pratt! He was his friend , CIA guy who lived on a boat. He was literally almost in every episode 😁