Great insight! Also the most informative comment section i seen !
@drive2 ай бұрын
this comment section is now probably the best repository of info on this car on the internet.
@_wallnutz_2 ай бұрын
I love they used B roll of Australian Ford Falcons from the 70s that were never exported. Sweet as. Aussie cars are the best.
@kevinbarry713 ай бұрын
Only General Motors could screw up a manual transmission
@Tracert-mc1hu3 ай бұрын
Subaru has entered the chat
@andrewallen99933 ай бұрын
Opel Monza fwd. 30 minutes or less to change the complete clutch assembly.
@SocialismSucks3 ай бұрын
🤣
@bzilla10903 ай бұрын
@@andrewallen9993it's still kak
@talltom11293 ай бұрын
My 85 bronco had a piece of junk Mazda trans, a 5 speed
@victorsoares69413 ай бұрын
Those vehicles didn't work out in the desert, so VW from Brazil sold thousands of Passats with minimal alterations to Iraq. Saddam paid with petroleum which went straight to Petrobras (Brazilian petroleum company owned by government) that paid VW.
@drive3 ай бұрын
that’s fascinating. money always finds a way
@Interests13 ай бұрын
It’s hard to find an Iraqi whom’s father didn’t own one of those 🙂
@CFtablet3 ай бұрын
@s.a.6444 Around 220,000 Brazilian VW Passat LSE were exported. From those, 170,000 alone to Iraq, in 5 years. In Brazil, they are called Passat Iraque and are loved by collectors, for some reasons: being rarer than most versions, AC from factory, red interior in some cases, better gearbox and the fact that they had four doors while most of the ones sold in Brazil had two doors. Back then, the VW taxis and "corporate" cars used to be 4-door Santana. Some people say the "Iraqi" Passat also had an improved radiator, but I don't know if this is true. It wasn't the most loved or expensive Passat in that era (it was probably the Passat Pointer GTS), but no doubt it is special for collectors nowadays.
@PenskePC173 ай бұрын
They probably made tons of mods and just said they didn’t . Europe insists on being in a competition with America that America has no clue about, but still almost always wins 😂 Iraq just didn’t want to pay as the idea of a euro car being more reliable than an American car is nonsensical
@CFtablet3 ай бұрын
@PenskePC17 It wasn't tons of mods. And even though this specific Passat was a VW with Audi roots, back then, Volkswagen do Brasil (Volkswagen of Brazil - the first VW factory out of Germany is in Brazil) had a lot of independence from Wolfsburg to do whatever they wanted to. The car was released in Europe in 1973 (I think) and started to be made in Brazil, specifically for the domestic market, in '74 or '75. When they started to be exported to Iraq (mid 80s), it had already evolved a lot in Brazil, entirely apart from the European VWs. The proof that the car was effectively "better" than the exported GMs is the fact that they can still be found everywhere in the Middle Eastern country until today. And don't get me wrong: I have nothing against GM, but they were just trying to sell unreliable junk that they were not able to sell domestically to the Iraqi government, with not enough care. There's no Europe in the deal, it was between the governments of Brazil and Iraq. Brazil wanted oil, Iraq wanted cars. The local Passat LSE (with some adequacies, like a different gearbox, a more conservative engine option, the addition of AC from factory, different interior colors...) ended up being the best match for the Iraqi expectations the Brazilian government managed to find. With the recent release of the VW Santana in the South American country, it was certainly a good deal for VW too, since it was probably cannibalizing the older model. And please keep in mind that these GMs were not Corvettes, and these VWs were not Audi Quattros. They were reasonably priced cars, meant to be daily driven by heads of families, government officials, taxi drivers... No intent to start an American vs. "European" (more Brazilian than anything, in fact) automotive schools war, or something like that.
@murrayhill40163 ай бұрын
We called them Iraqi taxis. The standard 3 speed manual transmissions and bell housings had the same bolt patterns as the small block V8s. With body on frame, rear wheel drive configuration, they made great hobby class stock cars in the 90s. I built one. Several buddies did the same.
@MikeAnderson-uj3oo3 ай бұрын
I did a lot of work on these at an independent shop. I could be wrong but I think it had a really low gear in the rear end. Like a 411 or something like that. They were a great car. Sure, the frame rails would rot off the back end. You could buy repair sections right from GM. I couldn't even count the number of those I welded new rails in. They had horrible carburetors on them. That I do remember.
@livinginavwvan2073 ай бұрын
@@MikeAnderson-uj3oo Yeah all the G bodies were bad, the section of frame behind the rear wheels, most would just be holes.
@randyc81713 ай бұрын
@@livinginavwvan207 The frame on mine is like new and not a spec of rust.
@n1umj3 ай бұрын
I remember that, I knew several people who used them for that.
@FrankBullitt3903 ай бұрын
Same bolt pattern because the 3.8 V6 was just a 305 V8 with 2 cylinders cut off. The 4.3L V6 was a 350 V8 with 2 cylinders chopped off. On the opposite end the OG Viper V10 was just a dodge magnum (5.2/5.9) with 2 cylinders added.
@hughjass10443 ай бұрын
I never owned any but some friends did. Amazing how quickly many of them seemed to morph into 5.7L 4 speeds.
@joanfrellburg49013 ай бұрын
Was a bolt in, and would conquer any other cars sold at that time. Everything was junk.
@matthewcaughey88983 ай бұрын
Even the police package cars never got the 5.7. Those all had the god awful 305 or 5.0 V8
@joanfrellburg49013 ай бұрын
@@matthewcaughey8898 The V6 they came with was a decent motor for reliability and fuel economy. But hard to resist a transplant :-)
@FrankBullitt3903 ай бұрын
Almost bought a malibu in the early 90's, it had a 350 and stick that was made by using Iraqi taxi parts, it may have even had the 3 speed. Car was a coupe. It burned oil and had been driven in the winter so I passed
@clarkgriswold-zr5sb2 ай бұрын
Had a '78 with a 305 and 4 speed (from the factory). Kept the 305 and it did just fine. It'd easily break the tires free shifting into second.
@mohammedtariq60473 ай бұрын
I am Iraqi and we previously owned two of thes cars.. and even some says that Saddam executed some of the people responsible for this deal.
@carltonkeys62053 ай бұрын
So
@WorshipSAY103 ай бұрын
@@carltonkeys6205 The “so” is that you’re an unworldly, ignorant person.
@tannertolson3 ай бұрын
80s gm cars were shit. As a American I don't blame him. I'm non biased on the topic. Don't stand behind shit made cars
@PhilLesh693 ай бұрын
Reagan made the army buy tens or hundreds of thousands of Chrysler K cars. They were all over the place, and they were pieces of junk. They even had a warning sticker on the rear bumper to not park over leaves or other combustible materials due to risk of fire. They were too cheap to bolt a heat shield over the catalytic converter.
@CableWrestler3 ай бұрын
Genuine question: How would you say your country has changed since Saddam? Thank you 😊
@kennymay90363 ай бұрын
l knew one of the GM mechanics who went to lraq for a year to help keep these cars running.The biggest issue was sand clogging air filters,Unfortunately,the lraqis would pull clogged filters out,dropped to the ground,and off they drove with no filters.So sand ruined the cyl bores in days.They also pulled off the bellhousing dust covers,ruining clutch discs.
@drive3 ай бұрын
bet he had some stories!
@klj23823 ай бұрын
Sounds like some real jackasses
@buzzwaldron61952 ай бұрын
Thanks for that info. Complicating this GM cars problem is the CarterFlation presidency of 1977 - 1981 when new car prices TRIPLED over only a 4 year period! These basic Malibus in USA were prolly priced about $4K in late 1976 and about $12K in 1981 !!! So no wonder Americans wanted this NEW CAR at $6.5K in 1981 !
@BlackPill-pu4vi2 ай бұрын
It also shows they were not very intelligent. They were not far removed from the days of camels and camels didn't need air filters.
@user-ut9ln4vd5m2 ай бұрын
When you think things are idiot proof, along comes a bigger idiot
@molives73 ай бұрын
Ford and GM need some modern version of this affordable, stick, reliable. But I’m dreaming
@neilbrown823 ай бұрын
Tell that to the government.....to much mandated Nanny safety features due to idiots
@richardlea8183 ай бұрын
@@neilbrown82yep! The more sensors, computers, and airbags they add, the more the price goes up! And all these 8+ speed transmissions they’re having to build to meet epa standards! Crazy
@Yophillips32723 ай бұрын
Chevy spark but it's a little clown car. 🤷♂️
@TheSaltyExplorer3 ай бұрын
@@neilbrown82the politicians have to protect their income source
@neilbrown823 ай бұрын
@@TheSaltyExplorer yup greasy bastards
@gordturnbull48353 ай бұрын
I owned one for a year, bought in 82 for $6120.00 This was the 1st new car I bought and was pissed when I found out there was a $700.00 tax from the feds on the A/C [never have seen better A/C]. Put on 20,000 Km or so and hated the 3 speed. If you shift slowly it works fine. If you pushed the car in anyway it was annoying; the gearing of the 3 speed and the power band of the V6 made for a very pokey car. Sold it after a year for $6100.00. Best deal on a car ever!
@drive3 ай бұрын
so the heavy duty AC did make a difference!
@perryelyod48703 ай бұрын
@@drive Even Rolls Royce used AC Delco air conditioners from GM.
@marklittle88053 ай бұрын
The AC worked real well. The rest of the car was rugged but uninspiring
@aaronshipley55943 ай бұрын
GM really did and does have the best AC they were an early investor in and then owner of Frigidaire. To this day, GM has the institutional knowledge of that company to make AC that blows so cold your nipples will cut glass.
@drive3 ай бұрын
@@aaronshipley5594 true. nothing freezes you like a GM
@lylehart37443 ай бұрын
GM sold lemons to almost everyone who has bought a vehicle from them. Not just Saddam
@lambo89613 ай бұрын
and still does to this very day
@scrappy75713 ай бұрын
@@lambo8961 More now today than ever before.
@joanfrellburg49013 ай бұрын
The Ford Pinto was so much better.
@Youralwayswhining43673 ай бұрын
Gm, ford and dodge all had crap and still sell crap
@SME57243 ай бұрын
lol true
@jwltiger33573 ай бұрын
If this happened today, and a manufacturer sold a car for 16k, every dealer in the country would mark it up to 45k and ruin any hype associated with “value” and it wouldn’t have sold out or become a cult favorite. First politician who runs on removing laws set up to protect dealers wins my vote! May have to wait another 37 years though, if ever haha
@TrashMutt2 ай бұрын
My car was 34,000 in 1997 or 66,000 in today's money. This is due to inflation not due to the company itself. If anyone's to blame it's the poor leadership we've had in the western world for recent decades 😢
@SpaceCoffee7002 ай бұрын
@@TrashMutt not true you can find new trucks etc by ford starting at 89k thats not inflation entirely companies have gotten used to just jackin up prices at first whim when panic mark ups happen during inflation spikes
@docdildonica75152 ай бұрын
You can get a brand new 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage, or a ‘24 Nissan Versa for $16k
@oi32df2 ай бұрын
@@docdildonica7515 A Mirage should not sell for more than 13k which would be a fair price not a penny more
@ragdolltrucking3 ай бұрын
I worked at the shipping port in Nova Scotia there's so many stories there that would suit this channel, just about every major automotive event in North America went through that port, vw dieselgate the lesser known Mercedes dieselgate (at one point there were so many sprinter vans they just gave up on shipping them and had them crushed) a ship filled with 800 Audi and VW's once hit rough sea's and totalled every car onboard, when Lada went out of business hundreds of cars got left in limbo at the port, they weren't allowed to be scrapped so the port just buried them and paved over it 😂
@GustavoEBarriga2 ай бұрын
Man, that's freaking interesting! A road with Ladas underneath lol.
@conedweller200326 күн бұрын
And the 20 or so Volvo carcasses at the bottom of the Bedford basin.
@jb24453 ай бұрын
we bought one new. 3 speed manual. only option was a/c. was amazing reliable car and lasted forever. zero issues
@ruk2023--3 ай бұрын
It was a 1980's GM product. I'm calling BS.
@2steaksandwiches6653 ай бұрын
The c10 pickups are were good
@blaydCA3 ай бұрын
You got a DEFECTIVE car! I hope they broke it for you under warranty.
@1991tommygun3 ай бұрын
Dude these Gbodys are STILL on the road. Lots of 80s gm stuff is actually. Look at all the Fbodys@@ruk2023--
@nodak813 ай бұрын
In the desert, A/C isn't an option it's basic safety equipment.
@NewfieOn2Wheels3 ай бұрын
I live in Halifax, I've seen one or two of them still clinging to life
@Interests13 ай бұрын
I’m Iraqi. The front bumper of this vehicle is a legend back home. It’s so spacious as well.
@drive3 ай бұрын
why is the bumper legendary?
@Interests13 ай бұрын
@@driveThe Malibu would get into an accident and absolutely destroy the other car. While the Malibu driver would simply pull the bumper back away from the body and his car would be almost damage free.
@MrHemi4spd3 ай бұрын
@@drivethe iraqi taxis had bumperettes. The domestic model malibus had smooth bumpers
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski3 ай бұрын
When I was deployed to Saudi Arabia in August of 90 for Operation Desert Shield, later becoming Operation Desert Storm which I participated in by invading Southern Iraq with the 1st Brigade, 24th Infantry Division, Mechanized (Heavy) I saw something that surprised me. There were basically 3 motor vehicles that were literally everywhere you looked and almost without exception they were the only ones we saw in everyday use, the Toyota Hilux 4wd pickup for people who had a need for off road capability, Chevrolet 1/2 ton two wheel drive pickup trucks for on road hauling, and Chevrolet Caprice/Caprice Classic 4 door sedans. In the 2 days I spent in Damam (the port city where our military equipment and vehicles were unloaded off ships) there was a bit more variety but even there these were the most common by far. Out of those 3 the Caprice (late 70s to mid 80s models) was by far the most common. There were so many of them that when I got a chance to speak to a Saudi national I asked him why they were so common. His answer, "They are comfortable to drive at whatever speed you want to go, even 120 KPH all day long, the air conditioning works great, they will run with little care or maintenance for over 150k Kilometers, they can carry a couple wives and children, and they are cheap enough that when they do finally quit you just walk away and go buy another." Later on I noticed the same vehicle preferences seemed to be common in Iraq. Years after coming home when reading some books about the Italian Mafia I learned another detail about these cars in the middle east. Many of them, if not most of them were stolen from cities all up and down the east coast. It was a huge ring of car thieves, many stolen by Mafia crews, many more sold to the Mafia guys (Roy Demeo was a big part of this racket) and the Italians were selling multiple shipping containers at a time filled with Caprices to brokers in a number of middle eastern nations. Also, a side note, when I was in Iraq, (Feb 91) they had a lot of really nice roads and some nice modern hiways, at least until we wrre finished with them.
@TheKing-id8gr3 ай бұрын
ستحاسبون امام الله لانكم دمرتم البلاد
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski3 ай бұрын
@@TheKing-id8gr unfortunately there is no Translate to English option to click on so my curiosity about what your reply says is going to drive me crazy.
@Matt-yn8dv3 ай бұрын
@@oldhillbillybuckkowalski He said, "You will be held accountable before God because you destroyed the country". Don't shoot the messenger I'm just letting you know what he said.
@oldhillbillybuckkowalski3 ай бұрын
@@Matt-yn8dv Thanks for being my "Terp". I could see where someone might think that but in Desert Storm we mostly concentrated on destroying Tanks, other assorted armored vehicles, artillery, military attack helicopters, jet fighters scud missile systems, and munitions stockpiles, all the stuff that might keep Sadam Hussein from invading his neighbors again... like when he sent his Army to rape, rob, pillage, and slaughter thousands of Kuwaitis all to try and get out of paying back loans he got to fight a genocidal war against Iran for 8 years of what was one of the highest cost in human lives of any war in the middle east all to gain nothing. Of course while we were destroying that equipment and weaponry there were Iraqi soldiers who chose to ignore the leaflets telling them we were coming and the could live if they surrendered and those that chose to fight chose to die. Not ideal but that's how it be sometimes. But we didn't launch Spuds at Israel, we didn't send in an Armored Division to Kanji signaling they wished to surrender and then at close range begin an attack, and we did not set the Rumalia Oil Fields on fire and start pumping oil from off shore rigs into the Persian Gulf in a temper tantrum over loosing, to create an environmental disaster that took decades to complete the cleanup thus really destroying the country. If I will have to answer for what I did in Desert Storm I'm ok with that, but if so I'll be in line to do it behind all the brutal middle eastern dictators that slaughter people for fun and all the terrorists, the largest industry in the middle east that doesn't involve the petroleum industry. Now if I knew how to translate this into squiggle I'd be all set.
@8587tarik2 ай бұрын
المحاسبين بالدرجة الاولى ابناء البلد من الخونة والطغاة ولحد يومنا هذا @@TheKing-id8gr
@DSishere3 ай бұрын
The nickname in Canada was actually ‘Iraqi Pace Cars’. My neighbour in Toronto was one of the GM engineers sent over to see what the hell was going on with these cars. What he found was zero maintenance and stupid driving. There was no concept of understanding you require oil changes - plus they tried to drive these 3 speeds as if they were Russian army trucks. It wasn’t the throw out bearing at fault - it was riding the clutch pedal mainly. He told me they ran out of pressure plates at one point and most of the flywheels they pulled out were glazed over and had friction damage. If you’ve ever seen videos of their driving in that era you’ll understand why they even broke Russian T-54 tanks! Most of these cars that were removed from Halifax went on to years of good service in Canada and were hell of a good grocery getter or 2nd car. Many had the 3 speed replaced with a 4 and later 5 speed gearbox. Drivability really improved with the better gearbox. The only reason GM put the 3 speed in was the theory of fewer shifts would be less wear. Wrong! The traffic jams were legendary in Baghdad so the lack of torque from the engine and stop and go traffic (and sand) just wore them out three times as fast. In hindsight they should have gone with a 3 speed auto. The idea that Saddam ran out of funds is probably correct as he ended up spending over $600B on the eight year war with Iran from 1980 to 1988. The deal for these 25000 cars was negotiated just as the war started and he had anticipated a quick win over Iran. Then lunch bag let down - the war is lasting too long. I know, let’s screw the Canadian’s. It ended up ok, GM sold the remaining cars at a slight profit. 🤷♂️
@johnwayne39043 ай бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me, honestly. Thanks for your input, DS.
@SamerMahroos3 ай бұрын
I call bs with due respect, first your call on Iraqis not maintaining their cars the about the Toyota's and the VW Passat from the very same era still around in Baghdad now? If the car was so good howcome the ones stays in Canada had to replace their gearbox anyway? Despite Canada having a colder weather than Iraq. The gearbox was shit and you have to admit it. Second you have no idea how much is a $600b. Iraq had a surplus or 30b in 1980 and by the end of the war was in debt of 30b, if the number spent is around another 30b (though it might be much much lesser with all the limited export of oil due to the blokade of the gulf of Basrah) then it'll add to up 90b, not 600b if Iraq had 600b (or the ability to obtain 600b in 1980) iraq whould have bought iran cash-on-table
@livinginavwvan2073 ай бұрын
You would think the TH350 3-spd auto would have been the better choice
@FrankBullitt3903 ай бұрын
Canadian here and have never once heard them called that. Iraqi Taxi is what they are
@___-dj2dw3 ай бұрын
much better explanation than that degenerate video
@FlyingTigersKMT3 ай бұрын
GM? Shoddy quality? You don't say....😅😅😅
@SocialismSucks3 ай бұрын
😂
@dalesmith5613 ай бұрын
Look at Ford's recent recall record.
@OG-BIG-SHEPHERD.3 ай бұрын
GMC= Generally Made Crappy!
@barfy47513 ай бұрын
@@dalesmith561just look at their old records
@MrHeem943 ай бұрын
Truth.
@randolfo12653 ай бұрын
I knew guys who built them here in Oshawa (home of the Camaro for a few years). The story I heard was that quality problems were caused by Iraqis removing the air filters to improve performance (bad idea in the desert). I also saw tons of them in the Toronto area. I seem to recall that some of them were three on the tree shifters, anybody remember that? Great story, thanks for that!
@ronaldkovacs70803 ай бұрын
IIRC they were floor shifters. But this is 40 years ago. Lol
@skyhawk4703 ай бұрын
still one down the street from me used as a daily driver mint shape still too! (cobourg area)
@timothyirwin89743 ай бұрын
Sister bought one new in Toronto. Three on the floor but the shifting was more like that found in a pick up truck than a car. You moved it slowly to give it a chance to engage. Bare, bare bones interior. Great budget car for it's size.
@markerichannelly3 ай бұрын
"the smallest engine" still 4x the size of a European engine lol
@elias711013 ай бұрын
but only 20 hp more lol
@rsyalom3 ай бұрын
ANd still 110 BHP?
@Texassince18363 ай бұрын
Don't compare modern European engines to 80s smog engines.
@elias711013 ай бұрын
@@Texassince1836 an 80's european 1.8 liter, 4 banger was pushing easily 90 hp
@barfy47513 ай бұрын
@@elias71101lot more torque though
@SteveLowtwait3 ай бұрын
I'd never heard of these cars or this story. Fascinating.
@nodak813 ай бұрын
Same here
@BlueGoat6823 ай бұрын
@@nodak81 ditto
@johnrunciman26543 ай бұрын
My best friend in high school owned one of these cars. He got a great deal on it, and it was one of the better cars we had access to at the time. We had a great time with that thing and the car's back story was always a source of humour. Eventually it was destroyed when hit by a large truck in a parking lot. Memories!
@TWX11383 ай бұрын
A car with an engine physically smaller than what the chassis was designed to accommodate is almost always easy to maintain compared to cars that received the biggest engines they were designed for. I was helping a friend revive a 3rd gen F-body Camaro with the 5.7 EFI engine, it was an '87 equippes with a smog pump and those aspirator tubes into each individual exhaust runner. It was clear that the F-body was designed for nothing larger than a small block, it was so tight that we did not even bother with plugs. In contrast, my '95 Impala's basic chassis goes all of the way back to 1977, and the platform makes extensive use of the parts-bin on the former mid-sized cars (1970s Chevelle, mid-70s Camaro) along with outer dimensions similar to those older mid-size cars, which were designed to hold big-blocks. There's so much more room to work in the Impala's engine bay compared to that 3rd gen Camaro. The small V6 (comparatively speaking) and simple drivetrain in these Iraqi Malibus made them a lot easier to service regardless of training, so something that was beneficial to export to a country without a dealer network to fall back on for service also made them beneficial to consumers that might normally not be able to afford new cars and likely couldn't afford to pay for repairs after the laughably short warranties expired. Sure they were underpowered compared to even the mainstream vehicles of the late malaise era, but for buyers that just wanted something to get around in that wasn't already rusting away or expensive to repair this might not have been that big of a deal.
@TheStreethack3 ай бұрын
My family owned one of these in the early 80's to 90's. Didn't need a new car for a few years, so it was garage stored until another car headed off to the wreckers. My frugal Accountant Dad regretted not having bought two at the time, hindsight being 20/20. I learned to drive using it, as well as manual transmission. It took PLENTY of abuse from the two teenage drivers in the family in the latter '80s. It towed trailers for long distances with hobby tree-farm stuff on a regular basis. I don't think the clutch was ever replaced. As far as my memory goes - that car was mechanically/reliability trouble free - it was deer-wrecked x2, rebuilt x2, and sold off with high miles. My Dad was overweight, and as such the HD suspension came in handy. It got replaced by my Grandpa's hand-me-down Chevy Caprice of the same year. Performance was relative in the late '70's to late '80s.. we didn't really know much better, at the time. We also owned a mid '80s Camaro powered by the same engine. Anemic today, was normal yesterday. Iraq's loss, was our family's 1980's gain. This stuff makes me feel old.
@paulscanter55623 ай бұрын
I had an '82 Malibu with the 3.8L V6 (231CID) and auto trans. Surprisingly very reliable.
@timothyirwin89743 ай бұрын
Two tone?
@JimmyJamesJ3 ай бұрын
I'm from Canada and I owned one in the late 90's. It still is one of my favourite cars I ever owned. It was built like a tank. Of course I threw out that crappy V6 and swapped that for a 305 very early on.
@edmoores3 ай бұрын
I owned one of these. Silver exterior and dark blue interior. I swapped out the 3.8 and installed a 350 in it with the 3 speed gearbox . It was a lot of fun. Great memories
@livinginavwvan2073 ай бұрын
In late 90's I worked at a factory with a retired GM worker from Oshawa where these were built, they did really long runs of them being all the same color, he worked on the paint line and made note of that "can't we change the damn color!" Most were light blue from my recollection
@MrJayrock6203 ай бұрын
I heard a lot of these had a ridiculous axle ratio too, like a 2.55 or something. It was ok for flat highways but hills were a challenge
@mtut3 ай бұрын
For as popular as these cars were, GM had some funny problems selling them. Another story is about the Pontiac LeMans (basically same car from 78-81). Pontiac sold a bunch of them to a car rental company but someone had made the mistake of not ordering them with air conditioning. And they were supposed to be used in Arizona. Eventually the cars ended up being dressed up as police cars - and of course, mostly destroyed - at the end of Smokey and the Bandit II.
@ScarabChris3 ай бұрын
Ha...you're right! I'm 50 years old and I have watch all the Bandit movies a bunch of times. I remember thinking it must have cost a fortune to make this movie with them destroying so many cars. It was the desert scene where Bandit drover over all the rigs like a bridge right? And the Bandit movies certainly had some deal with Pontiac as nearly every car was a Pontiac.
@big59443 ай бұрын
Wow that was a great video, hope to see more like it on your channel. My relatives up in Canada actually had one of these said Malibus. Back in the day they were looking to buy a new car and stumbled onto a Chevy dealer's lot in the greater Toronto aera where these cars were sold for a really low price, the dealer did state that these cars were part of shipment to some "place" in the middle east that fell through...lol. You talked about shoddy workmanship, but my relatives kept that car for almost ten years with no problems that's until the rust finally got a hold of it.🙂
@drive3 ай бұрын
that’s hilarious. and thanks for watching! lot more to come
@RustyyCannon3 ай бұрын
My grand father bought one new and later sold it to my parents, my mom learned to drive stick with it and my dad said it would struggle to go up a hill. Still find them at car shows here in canada
@Channelscruf3 ай бұрын
Emissions are the #1 issue for governments…until governments have to pay for it.
@henrybourdon67123 ай бұрын
As a Canadian i loved finding these more doors in junk yards and remove all of the parts for a clutch conversion of any auto trans G. body to a manual car. I still own a 400 with 350 Vortec heads 4 speed 2 door Malibu Landau with a flipped around T/A shaker as a ram air scoop painted gold with crab claw flames and black interior and a more door station wagon 4 headlight front end . I always heard the term Iraqi taxi but the term Iraq-a-bu is a new one for me.
@daltonhanleyjr41423 ай бұрын
They should have gave them 4 speeds and 305 V8 packages.
@drive3 ай бұрын
now yer talkin
@tannertolson3 ай бұрын
That's about the only way
@aaronshipley55943 ай бұрын
I never could figure out why a petroleum-rich country worried about fuel economy of anything. Spec those cars with the 350 (if available at that time) and 4-speed autos.
@off_mah_lawn20743 ай бұрын
305 or 350 esp the carb’d ones run hot
@jinnygaatjenietaan3063 ай бұрын
@@aaronshipley5594 The cooling problems. The used an underpowered engine with required less cooling capacity. Because, with the big engine the cooling problems where only bigger....
@nabahmadi50123 ай бұрын
jokes on them, these people are extremely resourceful and with chevy parts available in Kuwait...well..it was all a 2 day engine swap.
@arnaholland86163 ай бұрын
Wow didn’t Kuwait very long that’s great
@SamerMahroos3 ай бұрын
Iraq had its own American car culture heck it almost started to assemble Oldsmobiles in the late 80s, if it wasn't for the Kuwait issue Iraq would have been a greater market for US than it is now
@tywebb3553 ай бұрын
I remember the poll taken in 1985. 85% of GM owners said they would never buy another one.
@williamhelms99423 ай бұрын
The cars should've been ordered as police cars and then they would be taxi cabs after they're retired from service! lol! 🤣
@Colorado_Native3 ай бұрын
When I was stationed at Lackland Air Force Base, San Antonio, TX, in the 80s a local Chevy dealer got about 12 short wheelbase Chevy pickups originally meant for Brazil. A friend got one. It was a nice truck, the only downside was the three-on-the-tree transmission.
@shadowopsairman15833 ай бұрын
Which was easy to swap to a 4 speed auto, change the starter, did this in a 76 5/8 ton C10 with 350
@spurgear43 ай бұрын
I grew up in Nova Scotia and remember these cars being parked at the docks in Halifax for ages until they were sold off. Standard Malibu, Kinda cool.
@w.a.l52023 ай бұрын
I live in Halifax, Nova Scotia. These things were incredibly popular. A 3-speed, taxi-built mid size American sedan really spoke to the market here at that time. Add in a low price, and there you have it. Worthy of note, the lot where these cars were stored still exists today, it's called Autoport in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, and massive vessels from Europe drop their cars here for shipment all across North America by rail.
@TheBBodyBuilder3 ай бұрын
My Grandfather worked for GM at this time and purchased 2 of the Iraqi Taxis off the port of Halifax and they were trouble free for many many years. Awesome little machines.
@PhilLesh693 ай бұрын
In 1985 my father was a base commander of an Army logistics depot. There were 300 tan, white and drab colored Chrysler K cars scattered around the base. As the commanding officer my father was driven around in a tan one with unit flags and the colonel eagle insignia on the bumpers. As some part of some taxpayer bailoyt, Reagan forced the Pentagon and a bunch of other large federal agencies to buy them. On the bumper there was a warning sticker about not parking over leaves or other combustible materials due to risk of fire. The catalytic converter didn't even have a heat shield, so it was apparently a common thing for someone to park a I car over some dried leaves or trash and come back later to a burned out charred steel frame where their car used to be. (I believe one of the car rental companies rediscovered this when parking a bunch of excess unused cars in a field near Tampa or Miami airport during the covid lockdown, too.)
@Interests13 ай бұрын
The way we pronounce it in Iraq is “Maleebo” 😂 .. good times!
@jeep47523 ай бұрын
The problem was that GM showed Iraq loaded Malibu Classics, then shipped them stripped basic Malibus. The clutch issue was that the input shaft for the transmission didn't get any grease on them at the factory, hence hard to shift. My dad owned one and worked on many at the dealership he works at. They were good cars.
@IamTedV3 ай бұрын
My scout leader (a Metro Toronto cop) bought one to drive in and out of Toronto. The car was solid!
@Iowa5993 ай бұрын
$100,000,000 / 25,000 cars = $4,000 per Malibu... i wouldn't pay that much!
@Iowa5993 ай бұрын
*at the $ value in 1980, or now
@user-ox5ok4bf2d3 ай бұрын
No rolling rear windows! 😂😂😂
@JoshuaLivingstone-kr9nt3 ай бұрын
The Australian ford falcons as taxis at the start was funny.
@kari533 ай бұрын
I owned one of these cars. To date was my favourite of the GM's I did own. That 3 speed was bulletproof. It was desired by many dirt oval racers. In fact, many times, guys would swap you a Muncie 4 speed for free just to get the 3 speed. We swapped in V8's many times, but for myself, I built a V6 monster of a motor that rivaled any small block at the time.
@Thunderrolls873 ай бұрын
Poor craftsmanship? I have owned a few late 70s early 80s GM vehicles i do not think they were low quality at all. They held up well and lasted into the 250 plus thousand miles.
@frankdeboer13473 ай бұрын
As long as you didn't buy one of those "new-fangled" X-cars.
@Thunderrolls873 ай бұрын
@@frankdeboer1347 i had a 77 Olds Ninety Eight and a 85 half ton Chevy pickup. I cant say anything bad about either. And if i had something bad to say i would.
@Yophillips32723 ай бұрын
Back then people junked cars because something simple like the distributor went out or a new model came out. I mean people still do but a lot of people have gotten wise to that.
@Thunderrolls873 ай бұрын
@@Yophillips3272 For sure. Alot of people wrote a car off as dead ehen it was something simple.
@nodak813 ай бұрын
I've talked with people like you. Later it always comes out that "held up well" actually means only having to rebuild the engine once or twice and that it's on its third transmission. Same with Mopar fan boys. Some people seem to think "reliable" and "easy to work on" mean the same thing.
@bobl17693 ай бұрын
My uncle bought one of these cars here in Canada. He had it for years and years with no problems. I drove it many times and there wasn’t much difference between it and my from it 1978 Pontiac, not considering the three on the floor. We understood these cars were supposed to be gifted to the families of dead and severely wounded veterans of the Iran-Iraq war, but for that to be true, they would have needed a lot more cars.
@drive3 ай бұрын
we didn’t cover it in the video, but you’re right that some were given to war widows
@edb86893 ай бұрын
My grandmother had 1980 Malibu 4 door, but the late 70’s style. She had it for most of our child hood but my dad put plenty of work into it through the years but it was as a SOLID car. The most annoying thing about the car was the back windows didn’t not roll down only the little windows that opened on a slant in the rear were not enough for air on hot summer days if anyone remembers that?!🌻
@shaheenal-asadi3 ай бұрын
First time hearing about the "IraqiBu" aka the Malibu destined for Iraq. I like the simple no fuss design of the Malibu, simple and easy to work on, as long as the transmission would work reliability. I wish more car companies would create "pure base model spec" trimmed vehicles that cost an inflation adjusted $16,000 these days. Great story, thanks for sharing :)
@chickenburgerfan883 ай бұрын
The thought of buying a new car for $16,000 makes me physically ill. Where did the times go man
@BruinHerr-bj7uk3 ай бұрын
I know. In 1993 I special ordered a Ford Ranger extended cab 4x4. It was $15,800. 4.0, manual transfer case, manual 5 speed, manual hubs, block heater, no a/c, no power windows, no power mirrors, no cruise control, no tilt steering window. Cayman green color. When I ordered it ford said 4-6 weeks, it took 12 weeks. I just rebuilt the engine last fall & still drive it today although it’s not my primary vehicle. Had cracked cylinder heads & lots of oil leaks. No rust since I live in MT where they don’t salt the roads and low humidity.
@googleusergp3 ай бұрын
They were actually still A bodies in 1981. They didn’t become G bodies until the 1982 model year.
@grabasandwich3 ай бұрын
Nice to see you here!
@rambo4war3 ай бұрын
Loved our 80s Malibu….zero issues with it, 1985 we traded it off for a new F150, while the truck was useful I did miss that car for a time
@matthewowen40373 ай бұрын
My family bought one and used it as our primary car for 15 years. Great car.
@robertmacdonald45183 ай бұрын
All this hate for GM at this time is a joke the G body Malibu is desired today . We had GM family cars all went over 200k miles , and then we owned taxis Caprice's and some went 500k miles. And in those days government regulations and coming out of the 70's emissions standard regulations they weren't perfect at all but for the time are not as bad as people now go on about.
@Onlythetruth883 ай бұрын
I have the same feelings.
@repoman65083 ай бұрын
I had a couple these back in the day. We called them iraqi taxis. The most basic car you ever seen. Mine where fairly reliable though.
@drive3 ай бұрын
umm... you had multiple?
@partshoard723 ай бұрын
@@drive many of us did, they were cheap here in Saskatchewan.. My friend and I put a 350 in mine with a Muncie 4 speed and embarrassed a few 5 liter Mustangs
@wheressteve3 ай бұрын
@@driveI knew of several here in Calgary as well, Iraqi Taxis weren't rare here either.
@bobhill39413 ай бұрын
My dad and stepdad remembered these at the Oshawa plant when they worked their.
@repoman65083 ай бұрын
@@drive yes i had two. Not at the same time but two in a row here in central Ontario in the 90's. I think they where both the same ugly brown. No options i don't even think they had carpet. Noisy and dusty as hell inside on the back roads
@jeffer09873 ай бұрын
that 3.8 is one the best engines offer
@lelandlewis72073 ай бұрын
I drove one of these on a 2500-mile trip and it worked quite well. It was a typical 6-cylinder, G-body of the day. The only issue was the gearing, which was set up for the flat roads of Iraq, but once changed, they worked well.
@margiemouse16603 ай бұрын
I had an Iraqibu, changed out the V-6 for a 350 4bbl and put a 4 speed into it. It was reliable and I never had anything go wrong with it and found it was as good as anything else Gm made. Yes it also moved and handled well, but rust the ever enemy of all GM cars caught up with it otherwise I would have kept it.
@JeffreyRust-oq7rw3 ай бұрын
Yes the engine swap.put a 855 Cummins in mine run like hell l and got 60 miles to the gallon 😅
@seandoherty22343 ай бұрын
Yep. Family bought one. We're Canadian, in Brampton specifically, and the thing lasted for many, many years with no real problem. Other than the fact that it wasn't made for Canadian winters.
@EditNorthern3 ай бұрын
My dad bought one new for $5000 CAD, it made it to 275,000kms, still started...drove it to the wrecking yard. My family and all of our teenage friends learned to drive standard on this. Never replaced a clutch, never needed major repairs, although most gasket surfaces were leaking oil by the end. What finally killed the car was piston wobble which eventual wore the cylinder and coolant leaked into the engine...We replaced it with a Corsica, what a piece a junk that was!
@darwinskeeper4213 ай бұрын
I'm happy to see a video on the Iraqibu. I used to own a 1980 El Camino with the same drivetrain, and enjoyed driving it. The 229 V6 wasn't powerful, but it was reasonably peppy, and it worked well with the 3 speed manual transmission. It was finally sold so that I could fit my 1979 Malibu wagon in the garage. An Iraqibu would have been a nice car to have had.
@urbanstrencan3 ай бұрын
What an awesome story, great work ❤❤
@unclemarksdiyauto3 ай бұрын
As a teenager in the 1980s in Winnipeg, yes these cars were around. I never got to drive one, but I remember them and parts of their story. The way I remember the story, they were sent without air conditioning to Iraq. (That would make sense they not wanting them.) I guess my memory has been corrected. I think we can learn a lesson here about having cheap cars to sell. It seems all the manufacturers want to sell us an over the top of the line SUV, b7t I think there still is a market for brand new cheap basic transportation.
@glennnickerson83253 ай бұрын
GM quality--whether you are a dictator or a blue collar worker, everyone gets hosed!😆
@nos4me3 ай бұрын
Lol according to everyone who owned one they were actually great quality
@BlueShankPEI3 ай бұрын
Two of my cousins owned one of these, they drove it for almost 20 years. Simple, basic and cheap, theirs turned out to be very reliable, but rust finally did it in.
@nismo370z43 ай бұрын
1981 it was still an "A" body. 1982 GM came out with the front wheel drive cars - Chevy Celebrity, Olds Cutlass Cierra, Pontiac 6000, Buick Century - these were designated "A" body. The Malibu, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Regal, and Cutlass rear wheel drive then became the "G" body - they had been the "A" body from 1973 thru 1981. Also the first "G" body was the 1969 Grand Prix - then 1970 Monte Carlo, both up thru 1972.
@IowaBudgetRCBashers3 ай бұрын
Saginaw 3 speeds were one of the best transmissions gm ever made. Guaranteed it was the sand wearing out the bushings
@thisisanfield70852 ай бұрын
' They fitted the smallest engine... a 3.8L ' LMAO 😃
@markchapman25853 ай бұрын
As a Canadian i never heard of this. Thanks for the great video. Cheers from Canada 🍻
@lewispaine45893 ай бұрын
I remember looking at one of these at a used car lot here on Vancouver Island about 1990, never saw another one again.
@greganderson45473 ай бұрын
Was it around 1994? I might have ended up with that car via a wholesaler
@gary14773 ай бұрын
I worked in the Middle East in 1991. Even before the first Gulf War was won, Ford and GM had freighters packed with new cars ready to be shipped to Kuwait. They knew that the Iraqis had looted Kuwait of cars. Kuwaitis were anxious to replace their stolen cars. Never stand between a Detroit factory and a Kuwaiti Dinar.
@cameronlovesevolve3 ай бұрын
Checking in from Nova Scotia - ive had the pleasure of going for a ride in one of these back in the day.. can confirm the A/C was really really really good lol. Every time i see an old G Body Malibu i try to get up close to see if it has the 3 speed on the floor.
@325xitgrocgetter3 ай бұрын
I went to college in North Dakota...close to the Canadian border. I recall seeing one of these Malibus parked by the student union. I thought it was a former police car but it certainly looked like one of these Malibus...because of the 3 speed on the floor and the tweed interior.
@drive3 ай бұрын
PSA: Carisma will be back next week! Going forward we'll be alternating weeks with that and these new storytelling episodes. I hope you like it-and if not, let me know how we can make better videos for you. -- KC
@stevanjakovljevic83903 ай бұрын
Its funny , Sadam is dictator and usa is country of Hitler descendents, basicly dictatorial regime of uniparty which bmis brainwashing it citizents
@paulsz61943 ай бұрын
@The Drive, Why do you show AUSTRALIAN Chrysler Valiants and Ford (XC) Falcons when talking about selling GM cars to Iraq for use as Taxis ??? 🤔 Is there really no other footage of a GM period- correct vehicle being used as a Taxi out on the internet??
@toyota420xp3 ай бұрын
Now a 3.8 v6bwould be atleast 275hp
@buzzwaldron61952 ай бұрын
Complicating this GM cars problem is the CarterFlation presidency of 1977 - 1981 when new car prices TRIPLED over only a 4 year period! These basic Malibus in USA were prolly priced about $4K in late 1976 and about $12K in 1981 !!! So no wonder Americans wanted this NEW CAR at $6.5K in 1981 !
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@ryisthisguy2 ай бұрын
I live in Canada. My dad had one of these Malibus when I was a kid. It was known as the Iraqi Malibu. The 3 speed manual was finicky and made the cars distinctive.
@eldoradomanchuria3 ай бұрын
I like this. I enjoy these short format, informative, deep dives. Good stuff, I will continue to watch!
@drive3 ай бұрын
thanks for watching! lots more to come
@marathonlogistics99433 ай бұрын
Not even gonna talk about how SH worked for CIA
@claytonburke55113 ай бұрын
These vehicles have a complete GM engineered manual transmission clutch assembly & all small parts necessary to swap a monty- Carlo . Cutlass , Grand-Prix. All in one neat package. Clutch linkage ,pedal, driveshaft shifter mount for floor Camaro 4 speed in a cutlass anyone ? They are getting harder to find as complete cars look carefully before buying
@marshallforeman20513 ай бұрын
Boy if Saddam Hussein had brought a GM product today he would really know what a lemon is
@anthonymcnatt37992 ай бұрын
Them: My hellcat overheats in the desert! Me: Tell me more!😂
@gpo7463 ай бұрын
"The Middle east didn't have a car industry" Iran did , they built the Paykan , millions of them !
@martinappold92913 ай бұрын
That's correct... BUT. Did you ever hear of the Iran-Iraq war (1980-1988)? Saddam ordering Paykan cars in these days would be like buying cars fromm, let's say, North Korea, or Cuba. As an US guy 😅
@coreyhollett91183 ай бұрын
This is before my time. I currently work at the Halifax facility where these were stored and shipped from. In the 90's, there was also a export program for Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciara and Chevy S10 pickups. They provided good work for us at the port.
@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes3 ай бұрын
We should have sent him 25,000 Ford Pintos (AKA the original “Chariot of Fire”) instead!
@gordonborsboom74603 ай бұрын
Every one I saw was green. And a 4 speed manual
@atticus65723 ай бұрын
Cool story, weird set.
@drive3 ай бұрын
Thanks, good feedback.
@dusi1253 ай бұрын
"Smallest engine" still like 2.5x of my car's engine xD
@thatsmrharley2u22 ай бұрын
My father in law worked at Borg Warner and bought one of these straight from work...cheap too. I was impressed by the power and speed of these V6 motors with the floor mounted 3 speed. The car was VERY dependable! I have some great memories of this Malibu!
@israelcano3 ай бұрын
GM does this today in Mexico. They send over all there Lemons to Mexico. Here in Mexico 2023 Yukon Denali I got the engine seized not even 500 Kms on it.
@morstyrannis19513 ай бұрын
There’s quite a few reports here on KZfaq about GM engines grenading with less than 5K miles on them. Definitely not a MX only problem.
@israelcano3 ай бұрын
@@morstyrannis1951 in the USA they offer like up to 100,000 mile warranty. Here in Mexico they offer 1 year of free on star.
@Yophillips32723 ай бұрын
@morstyrannis1951 No, they definitely do I've worked for a different manufacturer and it's part of the procedure and kind of a running joke to send out the junk.
@jeffhazlehurst36743 ай бұрын
Over the years, I've owned 3 of these cars. Cheap, yes, but I found them to be reliable. Eventually they're overcome by rust.
@grabasandwich3 ай бұрын
I remember seeing so many GM cars up here with bumpers being held on with ropes, bungee cords, etc. Those rear frame rails didn't last long eh? 😖
@AZM1952 ай бұрын
Hay everyone, I'm from Baghdad and I remember this car very well as 2 of my uncles had one. It was not a bad vehicle after they worked out the bugs. We actually liked it. Iraqi people and all people in the gulf countries in general loved gm cars, especially the 1960 to the 1990. I'm surprised you called them Iraqi taxi as they were never used as a taxi. They were sold by the government to the public (specially veterans) with very affordable price. They were subsidies by the government like every thing else. The competition from Japan is what ended the deal. Toyota sent a team to study the streets in Baghdad. They designed what called crown with ac freezer cold and a bench seat in the front like a sofa. That car was a huge success and extremely reliable. It was the official taxi in Iraq for many years. Love the Malibu 1980...so many memories.
@davebaker4893 ай бұрын
I'm old and clearly remember when they rejected the Iraqi taxis. I personally remember friends buying them. They were mostly trouble free most going hundreds of thousands of miles. Several were modified and drag raced. But lemons... Hardly.
@briandreggors91783 ай бұрын
You guys do understand that the truth of the matter is that the cars were largely fine. Saddam just did not have the money to pay for the rest of the order.
@safwandestiny65623 ай бұрын
Come on the man is dead leave him alone I have one with 3 speed manual still in orginal paint
@drive3 ай бұрын
whoa, really? what do you think of it?
@safwandestiny65623 ай бұрын
@@drive its a nice car until now sell for a good price in iraq it's sells between 6000$ to 10000 $
@super-gerald2 ай бұрын
The best part of this video for me was to see that clip of Knowlton Nash. Now there's a flashback. Makes me remember simpler times.
@CheapCheerful3 ай бұрын
Great story dude. I love simple machines or objects that just do the job, nothing fancy.
@user-fi1xu1pp7p3 ай бұрын
That's why I only buy Toyota in United States. Because Toyota doesn't pull bullshit like this. Every manufacturer plays politics like lgbt, diversity etc ... However, Toyota never play politics when it comes to "building a car" ...
@user-oe6sz1bk9y3 ай бұрын
Lol Toyota was in bed with GM in the 1980's
@TheCarHornMaster3 ай бұрын
A true american has at least 1 american car in their garage.