Will there be Cheeky Loopholes in 2022 Formula 1 Cars?

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2 жыл бұрын

So the likelihood of the teams all sticking to the exact meaning of the rules is highly unlikely. F1 engineers are geniuses’ at figuring out cheeky ways to find performance where the rules were supposed to limit it.
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Brawn 2009 with the double-diffuser and genius front wing, Mercedes in 2014 with the split Turbo and Ferrari in the early 2000s.
And all of those came after big rule changes - and we’re about to see one of the biggest rule changes in F1 history - so are we going to see some epic ‘Silver-Bullet’ solutions for massive performance?
Well, we’re got Scarbs back to run through where the teams will be looking to get that ‘Magic Solution’ - Let’s go!
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So Brawn nailed it in 2009, without much money, too! And the story as we know, they were expecting a 50% reduction in downforce due to the new regs, and they managed to gain the majority of that back!
Brawn got lots of things right now we look at the double diffuser as the kind of the key thing but there was another two teams that had that in pre-season testing before 2009 braun got the front wing right rear brake ducts lots of little features they got absolutely right plus they had you know the fantastic mercedes power unit and that just gave them the advantage which lasted um for the majority of the year while everyone caught up
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@raptor1672 2 жыл бұрын

Suspension is going to be the dark art this year which nobody might expect with the new tyres.

@glike2 2 жыл бұрын

A very soft seat suspension would be good for the driver safety and be a moderate double suspension loophole

@Jajeweet 2 жыл бұрын

@@glike2 Seat suspension would really fuck with the drivers feel of the car

@TheNecromancer6666 2 жыл бұрын

@@glike2 And totally Stupid, cause you want to "suspend" the maximum mass not just the driver.

@Srga91 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. The question is gonna be: Pushrod or pullrod? We already know that McLaren and Ferrari are going for a pullrod front suspension, because of its aerodynamic advantages. With the changes in airflow, due to the new front wing designs and the loss of the bardgeboards, we could see some interesting solutions at the front suspension.

@spektrumB 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, can't wait to see Schumacher vs Mazepin. Battle of the century.

@juzzadood4419 2 жыл бұрын

Mazepin was sometimes further behind Schumacher than Schumacher was from Hamilton! So 2022 would be Schumi Jr cruising at the front, while Egghead would be in an epic fight with fellow backmarkers Merc and Red Bull

@lukasmuursepp2267 2 жыл бұрын

Son of a god vs son of a b*tch

@kimi17171 2 жыл бұрын

That would be epic

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 жыл бұрын

@@juzzadood4419 Aye. XD

@cliffswallower98inyourwind14 2 жыл бұрын

Still on about Mazepin? This will never go away like COVID

@Firebolt1729 2 жыл бұрын

Even if any team discovers a loophole, we all know the FIA being the FIA will ban it eventually.

@whothebeast666 2 жыл бұрын

They'll take their time about it tho He said FIA wouldn't be changing rules midseason

@hangingchad_ 2 жыл бұрын

@UC5ejXPzhdiRpUsjyoLbvKeA 🤣totally. It had nothing to do with Mercedes' enormous supply of cash, which in turn allowed them to find loop-holes, like DAS in 2020, brake magic, rear suspension that allowed them to stall the diffuser at speed, and an engine that was able to run in qualy mode for the last few races... It's definitely a conspiracy, and has nothing at all to do with their unstoppable R&D.

@user-wt6ce3hv1t 2 жыл бұрын

Or the team will win by loophole,make race boring

@elliotcowell3139 2 жыл бұрын

loopholes will be banned instantly and branded as cheating unless mercedes find it *traditions*

@ballaking1000 2 жыл бұрын

If FIA stopped banning certain things, then F1 gets more expensive which is the opposite goal it's trying to accomplish which is to become more sustainable. Some new developments can be very profound in performance- but very expensive to produce the physical part and even moreso, the silly amount of man hours and equipment/software usage perfecting said part to be used to its full potential. For us spectators, FIA banning certain things can and usually are a GOOD thing. If FIA stopped banning parts that are extremely complex or too big of an advantage; then very quickly the top teams will make even larger gains of performance to smaller teams and the racing itself becomes more boring. Not saying this is you, but soooo many people cry out for closer racing while under the same breath; wish for FIA to let teams have full-reign over their car developments... INSTANTLY I know they are clueless and it gets a bit annoying when so much of the fanbase don't even know what they're asking for!... But still talk like they got it figured out, had they used a LITTLE brainpower into going below the surface of what they're proposing, they'd see their own contradictory! Again, not saying this is you, but I wouldn't be surprised if this comment could apply to 80% of those who liked your comment as I highly doubt 20% or more are okay with duller races for the sake of development (again I say, they don't actually know what exactly they're asking for).

@olekaarvaag9405 2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of teams might try to make the air coming back of the car dirtier.

@xYoshiLP. 2 жыл бұрын

well maybe because this cars design rules are mainly on making the air behind them cleaner... interesting thing to keep in mind !

@olekaarvaag9405 2 жыл бұрын

@@xYoshiLP. Exactly. It's a kind of dirty trick, no pun intended, but if it works, it works. I think that could potentially be a difficult balance between drag, vortex "placement" and air control on the rest of the car. I can't wait for testing to start man. I just hope there isn't a huge gain from something that looks dumb and phallic.

@nickypoundtown9568 2 жыл бұрын

Packs of gravel taped to the gearbox

@jcf20010 2 жыл бұрын

I think it was Ross Braun that said if they find that is being done the FIA will ban the thing that's doing it.

@olekaarvaag9405 2 жыл бұрын

@@jcf20010 It'll be interesting to see what tactics and what people will try to report to the FIA. I am craving for this season to start so bad. I might even get to see one of the races this year in person!

@retohaner5328 2 жыл бұрын

My expectation is that some loophole will be found that will drive the amount of dirty air back up to 2021 levels

@benfulford3943 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video. I was hoping to see something like this from you guys. A suggestion for a future video is how the new cars are going to handle and how this will affect the way the cars drive and which drivers driving style is likely to suit the new cars the best.

@Euclides287 2 жыл бұрын

Some things we can only find out after *pre season testing* or the first couple of races.

@benfulford3943 2 жыл бұрын

@@Euclides287 just like in this video, we don't know what loop holes there will be they've made intelligent predictions on it. I'm suggesting the same for driving styles. Scott has brilliant insight into the different driving styles so it would be great to see his predictions

@Euclides287 2 жыл бұрын

@@benfulford3943 I agree. The harder it is to follow another car, the more skill is required to win. The 2022 rules may even out the playingfield in more ways than we thought. Who knows..

@michaellavery4899 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant? Really? It was filled with speculation that has been covered in numerous videos, demonstrations of what we already know and recaps of innovations from previous season. Maybe I missed something. Could you tell me what I missed?

@dingus153 2 жыл бұрын

I think it'd be fun if the FIA randomly deleted a paragraph or something from the regs, just to see what teams notice and what wacky things they come up with

@tturi2 2 жыл бұрын

that would be awesome, or just delete one random word from every paragraph

@commenttorv5572 2 жыл бұрын

"the rule book doesn't say that we can't put a machine gun in the cockpit"

@klafsen 2 жыл бұрын

@@commenttorv5572 Max Verstappen turns into Max Damage.

@adrianf5665 2 жыл бұрын

"will there be cheeky loopholes?" Absolutely.

@sebulbathx 2 жыл бұрын

The testing when the Brawn car and the regulations were new was really funny. I mean most or everyone thought the other teams were sandbagging or just ran slower laps with more fuel and things like that since the Brawn car was so damn fast compared to the others. Then the season started and Brawn was still ways ahead of every other car and everyone was shocked. I feel the regulations are tighter with less possibilities to exploit the rules but I really hope someone comes with something cheeky because that is one aspect I really like with F1 the bending and really make the most out the rules.

@Bahamuttiamat 2 жыл бұрын

@sebulbathx They'll find something, 800 engineers at the big teams versus 20 at the FIA. Massive difference in brain power. Mercedes came out with DAS within stable regs, inventing something revolutionary shouldn't be too difficult with such a massive change.

@sebulbathx 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bahamuttiamat Yeah your right. The teams brain power are incredible nowadays especially the bigger teams. But yeah I think at least one team will have something different for good or worse. I hope some team further back will have something innovative to propel them higher up in the field, that would have been really cool. As they said in the video if Haas came up with something and all of a sudden we would have Schumacher and Mazepin fighting for podium. Not likely but a nice twist for the grid if that heppened.😁

@johnj9111 2 жыл бұрын

As long as it’s not a caterham 2014 front wing loophole

@RbNetEngr 2 жыл бұрын

@@sebulbathx Well, Lawrence Stroll has enough $$ that if he sees that a team has developed an advantage, he will just pay them for the design info, like he did for the 2020 car, buying the brake duct info (and who knows what else!) from Mercedes.

@weignerleigner3037 2 жыл бұрын

@@RbNetEngr honestly I hope that happens. One of the best parts of the 2020 season was seeing racing point compete for podiums and wins. Not just merc or Red Bull or Ferrari. I think a lot of us are just tired of seeing the same teams win.

@Audiojack_ 2 жыл бұрын

The engineering aspect is one of my favourite things about F1, so I can't wait to see what everyone is bringing to the table. Hopefully it will still be competitive season though, regardless of how much I love unfair advantages.

@marcoscasado8698 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly we will have to wait until March to see some...

@chrisccc22 2 жыл бұрын

Where is Anand?

@SufferingAddict88 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah well, the engineering aspect of F1 is pretty much gone now though. I don't get why they don't just go the Indy-car way completely now. I don't get why they pretend it wasn't that now anyway.

@gdmya 7 ай бұрын

well 2022 proved to be sad and this season is quite boring

@hazikaiyan5903 2 жыл бұрын

Craig starting to become full time at Driver 61 🤣

@chrisccc22 2 жыл бұрын

Yoooo Hoooooo Anand?????

@maxmustermann6612 2 жыл бұрын

I really hope some random team will be far to good this year!

@hangingchad_ 2 жыл бұрын

Alpine.....🙏

@A24karrotplonker 2 жыл бұрын

Hass for championship

@kalpesh_p 2 жыл бұрын

Haas

@the_rush_to_nothing 2 жыл бұрын

*Ford has entered chat*

@mrdude9671 2 жыл бұрын

Alpine and Aston Martin .

@sumerrana6805 2 жыл бұрын

"Invert the cars at turn 3" Mick: understood Nikita: Thank you mick

@GlockGrippa 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think many people realise what a flex it is to have Scarbs appearing in so many videos of this channel. Love it!

@bobyoung1698 2 жыл бұрын

With F1 squeezing teams so hard, I can't help but wonder if we will ever again see significant advancements in design.

@stephencharlton9823 2 жыл бұрын

Even more so with the cost cap they will become ever more inventive in new ways I’d say.

@finnodriscoll7134 2 жыл бұрын

Limitation breeds innovation

@jayb2705 2 жыл бұрын

@@finnodriscoll7134 Or looking at it another way you no longer have the budget to try risky stuff so you play it safe, you also can't fix stuff you've tried as easily during the season

@BiggieTrismegistus 2 жыл бұрын

They want the series to be more spec-like without becoming a full spec series. I'm interested to see how it will work out. I love F1 but I grew up watching Indycars and sometimes the Indycar series is more interesting from a purely racing perspective because the cars are so similar. You don't have one team and/or driver running away with the season.

@mac.fk14 2 жыл бұрын

Well Haas actually has a chance as there chassis is made by dallara and they are wayy experienced with under floor down force

@omadta5798 2 жыл бұрын

and you think the other teams dont have experience? F1 teams have pretty much mastered how to use a floor that is made by the rules to be as ineffectiv as possible very effectiv. now there life is just getting easier in that regard. I doubt dallara has some pseudo advantage. most important thing where they can make differences probably will be elsewhere and espeically in creating dirty air on purpos.

@KangaRooTube 2 жыл бұрын

And they spent all last year developing the 2022 car so they have the best chance of finding a big loop hole in the rules.

@mac.fk14 2 жыл бұрын

@@KangaRooTube true man

@mac.fk14 2 жыл бұрын

@@omadta5798 yeh that's correct too

@mac.fk14 2 жыл бұрын

@@KangaRooTube just imagine Mick Schumacher contesting for championship and Nikita grabbing points finishes

@DANNY-bv7od 2 жыл бұрын

Regs are right up Redbulls street. Adrian will be loving it

@KissTheGreat 2 жыл бұрын

This was a very long video for the word yes, but I enjoyed it anyway

@Firebolt1729 2 жыл бұрын

How were you able to complete a 8 minute video in 2 minutes? This video was uploaded 47 minutes ago and you comment was made 45 minutes ago😂😂😂

@Saxe_AXRL 2 жыл бұрын

@@Firebolt1729 what’s most impressive about this entire video. Is what this man has accomplished

@crazycjk 2 жыл бұрын

@@Firebolt1729 he's the secret technical director at Mercedes and can bend time, also explaining how Hamilton's car was so fast at the end of the season

@hangingchad_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@Firebolt1729 somehow he's able to watch it at 4x playback speed, I guess?😆

@not_riley 2 жыл бұрын

i despise how over controlled and limited f1 car design has become. It’s supposed to be the pinnacle of automotive technology, but they keep adding restrictions to slow the cars down from their true potential limit.

@Appletank8 2 жыл бұрын

that's because the true limit results in 1) people dying 2) nobody is able to overtake without a massive horsepower advantage or the leading car screwing up. 3) teams giving up from running out of money 4) suppliers leaving because racing is also a tech development center, and suppliers need to justify how spending money on F1 will improve their commercial product. F1 doesn't exist in a vacuum. 5) Did i mention that humans' limit is a lot lower than cars' limit? This kills people; unless you're fine with driverless racing, this is always going to be a problem.

@connorclinton7650 2 жыл бұрын

Adrian Newey came up with RedBull X2010, but they can't produce it because it would literally kill the driver while driving lol

@jtfoto1 2 жыл бұрын

Agree. I would love to see them go back to the V12 era with none of this green hybrid rubbish.

@juli7xxxxx 2 жыл бұрын

@@jtfoto1 You want slower, less reliable cars?

@jtfoto1 2 жыл бұрын

@@juli7xxxxx Slower maybe, less reliable I don't think so. Certainly sound better and cheaper to make as well.

@ihateeveryoneofyou 2 жыл бұрын

I love how he says "they got the power unit right" when talking about merc, ignoring the massive lobbying they'd been doing in advance of the rules being announced/changed

@MahatmaWinkler 2 жыл бұрын

Pls explain

@bestfootball8335 2 жыл бұрын

@@MahatmaWinkler in 2011 brawn had been lobbying while being at mercedes

@robh9577 2 жыл бұрын

@@MahatmaWinkler merc had a 4cyl 1.6 hybrid running in +/- 2010 with an MGUh system in advance of the rules, of which they sat on the FIA board in charge of making the rules. Renault and Ferrari asked for V6 engines, and merc begrudgingly voted for it, but demanded on the MGUh which Merc parent had already spent several hundred million dollars developing. They had the v6 developed by 2011. And all the other manufacturers had to start that V6/MGUh project from scratch, after the rules were finalized at the very tail end of 2012.

@OmDahake 2 жыл бұрын

Great Explanation

@nikolaosskordoulis632 2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, the engineers proof-reading and cross-checking the new regulations: - Do you think the wording "any" here could result in a loophole? - Naaah, it's pretty obvious that in this context, it means "every".....

@mindtricky 2 жыл бұрын

Dude telling F1 secret history in 2022@160p...

@rudedog302 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, you talked about the changes, and not about the end of last season. Thanks.

@almord9357 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video; thanks!

@nurnberg1561 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t wait to see the cars, hopefully clean in design and visually appealing. I don't worry about Speed, because it's the pinnacle of motorsport

@samghost13 2 жыл бұрын

DUDE!!! Can't wait to have a look at TESTING!!

@DChrls 2 жыл бұрын

I'm dying for the release of team photos of the 2022 cars!!!

@TStizzle19 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't been keeping up at all with the channel because I don't recognize Callum! Great video though, props

@motorsportarmchairexperts3642 2 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for Scarbs to pick up some drum sticks and sing, 'In the air tonight'

@KayJblue 2 жыл бұрын

1:28 I’m beginning to think everyone forgot about the SF70h. It was faster at a considerable amount of circuits (mainly hot ones) Singapore and a few other late races makes it look worse on the stat sheets than it really was.

@Panda-xx4hs 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's the point, they got outdeveloped by Mercedes that's why it looked worse in the later races, because it was

@KayJblue 2 жыл бұрын

@@Panda-xx4hs Obviously yes. But to say that Red Bull were the only ones to catch Mercedes at all is false. Vettel ended up finishing less than 50 points behind. He lost 25 in Singapore from the crash. And a further 25 in Japan. This was the fault of Vettel underperforming. But the car had the pace to win the World Drivers championship at the very least.

@kaitoanderson2845 2 жыл бұрын

@@KayJblue no I disagree, Japan was reliability, faulty sparkplug, again in Malaysia qualifying and then Raikkonen not even being able to start in Malaysia. Singapore was a race incident, no one can see anything in the spray and covering off your opponent is a normal and acceptable manoeuvre. And then at tracks in the second half of the season, the mercedes was just plain faster, abu dhabi, USA, Italy, Belgium. Vettel outperformed the SF70, he did his best, but reliability and development was not good enough by ferrari.

@ia303 2 жыл бұрын

@@kaitoanderson2845 you can’t outperform a car. It’s all about extracting the highest potential of a car by adjusting driving style and just being plain good. Don’t get me wrong, Vettel drove amazingly in 2017, and would have been just as deserving as Lewis for the WDC. But, you cannot outperform a car, and people need to stop pretending like you can

@kaitoanderson2845 2 жыл бұрын

@@ia303 my Lord, forgive me for my insolence. May my souls be cleansed by your touch and everlasting Love Amen.

@arjundodanari4307 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for using Williams as the thumbnail. We Williams fans are hoping for a Brawn moment next season. 😭

@evog35viii 2 жыл бұрын

3 mini diffusers inside the 2 diffusers inside the left diffuser.

@johnj9111 2 жыл бұрын

Enzo would’ve hated Ferrari in the early 2000s, all that bloody aerodynamics

@Marco-xz7rf 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine some teams build their car specially rigid, so when wheelbanging they have a better chance of getting away with less damage while having a higher chance to damage the other car. woah, that would be weird haha. But protecting your venturi tunnel entrances will be really important for not loosing loads of downforce!

@glike2 2 жыл бұрын

Rigid will be more likely to break without adding extra material and weight, so that strategy would have the opposite of the intention.

@Marco-xz7rf 2 жыл бұрын

@@glike2 yeah i didn't meant ridgit, english is not my native tounge haha. I meant robust i guess? ^^

@myhomie94 2 жыл бұрын

No need to do that if you’re Mercedes… Hamiltons aim towards the rear wheel of an opponents car is flawless overall 🌚 just joking guys

@Marco-xz7rf 2 жыл бұрын

@@myhomie94 especially albon 😂 poor guy. I just watched season reviews from 2014 - 2020. A lot things happend diffrently as i remember. Hamilton just gets luckier and luckier, but probably because he puts himself in these positions where he can maximise this. How long it has been he was spun or crashed without his fault? I think raikönen silverstone and vettel in mexico 🤔 Thats not much.

@myhomie94 2 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-xz7rf yeah i'd say it's more tactic driving and skill of HAM to put himself in these positions in the first place. Well I guess one shouldn't include an incident at the start of a race into these situations, because he can't control what the other 20 guys behind him do at the first corner. So there are even less incidents, where he got taken out like this ;) but speaking of luck: remember Hungary '21 where literally everyone 2 meters behind him got taken out by stroll and bottas :D

@Chuck59ish 2 жыл бұрын

THis will be a very interesting year as the teams jockey to find the perfect car for their drivers.

@kelliebrooks9094 2 жыл бұрын

The interesting thing an I think u guy brought this up is the ground effects cars are something they the teams are familiar with....so that should help its application

@duffers95 2 жыл бұрын

Amazes me how clever these engineers are.

@hammidfunsho6315 2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis. Serious question: what is the brand of the sweater you're wearing?

@padraigfox3227 2 жыл бұрын

In the upcoming livery releases, will teams be showing their actual new car, or just the new livery in the generic 2022 car model?

@brucelong2075 2 жыл бұрын

Actual. But as it draw closer to race 1 in Australia especially after pre season there will definitely be changes to the body work/shape.

@andrewthomas8370 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as usual, not really taken by the look of these new cars tho paired with the hybrid engine (please bring back the V10's). However if it brings more teams into be competitive it has to be a good thing

@supergrizzidentity 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t the FIA want to leave room for interpretation in the rules? Unique cars are what sets F1 apart from Indycar and other series

@v4skunk739 2 жыл бұрын

I think the FIA will relax the rules if there is a backlash because all the cars are the same.

@SilentKillerPrince 2 жыл бұрын

There is already A LOT of room for intepretation, I mean the cars look similar at first glance but they really are not, otherwise there wouldn't be dominance of one team

@roymcdre9180 2 жыл бұрын

*Ferrari fuel flow* Are you sure they want to

@igormitt 2 жыл бұрын

Driver61 says: Mazepin, Schumacher Auto Subtitle: "i think he said Vazopin Chewbacca"

@ghostsracepix9622 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, if Haas had the fastest car they'd still struggle with hitting the top 3 consistently just based on Nakita and Mick's current experience compared to the others around them which are all gunning for top 3 finishes. That being said I would love to see all the teams within half a second

@aeneum6724 2 жыл бұрын

Most drivers struggle to hit top 3 consistently, regardless of how much experience they have. I doubt Mick would have many issues getting points positions if they had actually competitive cars

@ghostsracepix9622 2 жыл бұрын

@@aeneum6724 Merc and Red Bull close enough that's Max and Lewis with a consistent top 3 fight but other teams close as well that's a lot of drivers who would bring the fight to them, Not saying Mick or Nakita are terrible and Mick is definitely the better of the two at the moment but I think a front row fight constantly after 1 season in a terrible car is a hard jump but who knows maybe these cars could favour a certain style.

@kelliebrooks9094 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I was think is the under body ground affect cars are going to have to keep them off curbs and high curbs at speeds where there are counting on the suction of the floor boards...so that should make for smoother an safer driving....more cautious car placement on a line choice

@Bahamuttiamat 2 жыл бұрын

@Kellie Brooks Your comment is a reaccuring theme that holds no merit in reality. All previous f1 cars are in fact ground effect cars and they do not lose chucks of downforce over curbs. So it's fair to say the 22' spec cars won't be adversely affected by curbs either. In fact, I'd argue it would be ever easier.

@Adrian_Nel 2 жыл бұрын

Floor pan damage in the area just ahead of the rears is going to be a huge deal, this year.

@MrReese 2 жыл бұрын

1:36 the way the guy describes how Mercedes got the advantage compared to Brawn GP is very wrong because Brawn GP did it the same way Mercedes did in 2014. In 2008 Honda stopped the development of the 2008 car very early and had the full focus on the 2009 car as soon as May 2008, with Alex Wurz as their test and development driver. This eventually lead to a superb 2009 car which Honda was not able to capitalize on because they withdrew from F1 after the 2008 season in light of of the global financial crisis and sold the team to its management, which rebranded it to Brawn GP.

@williamcoleman8731 2 жыл бұрын

Aaaaand that's exactly what Haas did in 2021.... MSC WDC 2022

@MrReese 2 жыл бұрын

@@williamcoleman8731 At the very least I certainly hope that Haas will be more competitive in 2022 because that 2021 car was a joke.

@Bahamuttiamat 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrReese Actually, Honda began working on the 09 car in 07. They spent close to a billion in RnD.

@MrReese 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bahamuttiamat I never said they didn't, just that they stopped work on the 2008 car very early in the season to focus solely on the 2009 car :). That being said, do you have a source for when they actually started work on the 2009 car?

@Bahamuttiamat 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrReese Ross Brawn and the brackley boys. Check the f1 podcast "brackley boys". It's the same people that head of mercedes' trackside operation. They began work in 07.

@DaniMacYo 2 жыл бұрын

I have to say with certainty YES. There always is. Heck every year they seem to find something lol.

@RbNetEngr 2 жыл бұрын

The loophole can be an aero setup that does NOT result in cleaner air behind the car, thus making it more difficult to follow closely. Since the FIA said they will not make rule changes mid-season, this intentional aero ‘flaw’ can last throughout the entire season, and get regulated out for the 2023 season. Definitely a loophole!

@joeblack4026 2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what im expecting tbh :)

@americanpride9733 2 жыл бұрын

I love this in depth stuff

@kenmasters2231 2 жыл бұрын

got a feeling Redbull has managed to disguise a rocket by putting wheels on it.

@Cafferssss 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda want there to be so we get more opportunities for a constructor order shuffle

@snack711 2 жыл бұрын

to my knowledge ferrari had to keep the wider nose because they spent their development tokens on other regions of the car

@stunimbus1543 2 жыл бұрын

I would be delighted to see Mick Schumacer on the podium.

@tamerhafez3160 2 жыл бұрын

I can bet they would be looking at how to deliberately create vortices at the tip of the diffuser to make it hard for cars behind to follow. I also think the venture tunnel entry will be the "new barge boards"

@Appletank8 2 жыл бұрын

i think it was said that the fia will be on the look out for anything that deliberately tries to generate more dirty air

@tamerhafez3160 2 жыл бұрын

@@Appletank8 I think that might prove hard to govern, unless there are specific metrics for the air coming out of the diffuser

@Appletank8 2 жыл бұрын

@@tamerhafez3160 Considering teams have regularly caught and reported teams for cheating, real or not, a disgruntled team might be able to start an investigation over it, and force the accused team to show CFD results. Hell, Red bull figured out how Ferrari was likely superboosting their engine that one time.

@rositaortiz9438 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Daniboi971 2 жыл бұрын

Very tight regulations this time though

@shahir1395 2 жыл бұрын

juice your lemons like this channel is juicing the zoom call with Craig. :)

@MPal24 2 жыл бұрын

Even if Haas somehow did come up with the best concept, Haas being Haas would somehow find a way of fucking it up

@Javadamutt 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think the design will matter as much as the car setup at each venue. From the early sound bites it feels that even with the same design, there could be large variation from one track to the next performance wise. I guess certain designs will help define performance Windows but getting the car in the right part of the window could be what separates the teams at the end of the season

@SiVlog1989 2 жыл бұрын

When the precursor to the FIA, FISA, tried to ban the initial breed of Ground Effect aerodynamics in the 1980's, it brought a bigger effort from the teams to find a way round it. For example, when they mandated the side skirts be a set distance between the bottom of the car and the track, Gordon Murray of Brabham found a loophole in seeing that it was measured when the car was stationary and not when it was out on track. So, he fitted a device to lower the skirts when sessions and races started

@gogo_diabeto8279 2 жыл бұрын

With how important the floors are going to be this year a simple shove off the track can cause a driver to damage the floor thus ending their race

@onthatbombsh3ll890 2 жыл бұрын

Did RedBull(rb6) ever use the F-duct if so where did they locate theirs

@MrBurgerphone1014 2 жыл бұрын

I think that the sidepods will be key, the old ground effects era both in F1, le mans, imsa & in indycar lead to primarily flat-topped bodywork.

@aberamagold7509 2 жыл бұрын

I'm doing/taking the "Driver 61 - technical regulations course for the new F1 2022 cars" remotly via youtube video. My made up course needs a better name, but the point is I'm watching all of his video's on the new cars technical changes and regulations, what they mean and how the teams will try to deal with them all.

@Bozza36 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if they are able to use golf ball like dimples in aero parts?

@AhmadEjaz 2 жыл бұрын

what I find missing in all these analysis is what's the difference under rainy conditions especially in case of standing water and heavy rain conditions that were acceptable with earlier chassis.

@drnerd 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love those cheeky 'solutions'! 😊👍

@alsa4real 2 жыл бұрын

Your thumbnail game is very strong.

@ratticusmaximusiii7172 2 жыл бұрын

You’d have to put your money in the aerodynamic king Adrian newey to absolutely nail this seasons regulations

@garybarbati 2 жыл бұрын

I'd be interest to see what goes into constructing a wind tunnel. The timelines we hear about seem quite lengthy. There's no doubt about the importance of a wind tunnel in relation to aerodynamics, but what makes it so costly and why does it take so long to build one? Cheers from the US!

@RbNetEngr 2 жыл бұрын

Well, it really doesn’t matter if a team builds their own wind tunnel, or buys wind tunnel time from someone else, because the number of hours of wind tunnel testing for the actual vehicle are limited by the FIA. I think that they can do unlimited wind tunnel of test scale models of their cars, but not for the actual race cars.

@garybarbati 2 жыл бұрын

@@RbNetEngr Cool, yeah thats makes sense. Does that mean testing a scale model doesn't correlate effectively enough to warrent additional time?

@sean1650 2 жыл бұрын

His hairstyle lol...!!!!!! I can't stop laughing

@hexgraphica 2 жыл бұрын

That at the end should be the one approach for banning solutions in Motorsport. If it's not potentially or immediately dangerous or unsportsmanlike, ban it at the end of the current or following year, so competitors will have the chance to catch up

@kelliebrooks9094 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@sgsuper1150 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe tyres and suspension will keep breaking, imagine slamming low profile tyres over curbs at high speed.

@v4skunk739 2 жыл бұрын

The cars now have proper suspension though.

@leo1fun 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the picture I have of a very restricted car with little areas that have freedom is only one: Bargeboard arms race 2.0 with something else.

@grim-upnorth 2 жыл бұрын

With the engines being effectively frozen till 2026, the only place that the new rules/regs can even attempt to "bunch up the field" is in the aero department. But there will still be teams that have much more powerful engines, such as Mercedes and Red Bull's "not a honda honest guv" powertrain. So I wouldn't expect to see the field be bunched up as much as the FIA would like. But all it takes is for one of the midfield teams to come up with something spicy, within the aero regs, and things could get super interesting, super quick. But about 3-4 races into the season, anything externally spicy will be studied and then implemented by other teams.

@Alf763 2 жыл бұрын

Just saying Honda are staying on till 2026 officially

@Pandamasque 2 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to have a "reverse S-duct" in the nose that channels air from above a wide nose, through the nose down and towards the sides. That could divert air towards the tunnels and, as a bonus, relieve pressure in front of the windscreen and helmet.

@thevictoryoverhimself7298 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t like how a big theme of the rule changes is “how can we limit teams ability to be creative and gain an advantage”. F1 becomes more and more of a spec series every year and there is going to come a point where I don’t care anymore and will just watch indycar, because it’s at least not dominated by corporate board rooms posing as teams manipulating the rules. (We can’t have small cars you can easily pass with because it’s too expensive to ship refueling gear to each race, yet each team showing up to each race with a club and dance hall that takes 6 articulated trucks to transport is perfectly ok, despite adding nothing to the sport itself)

@henrygrey285 2 жыл бұрын

Aston coming in with a double T tray... already the first hole discovered...

@WaVe54556 Жыл бұрын

If a loophole is found the other teams will either copy it or with appeal it with the fia so the original team will probably only have an advantage for a few taces

@redbovine 2 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling there won’t be silver bullets but silver arrows.

@ev17dan 2 жыл бұрын

Komrade Mazapin WORLD CHAMP BABY!

@ParallexDj 2 жыл бұрын

Scarbs wearing a rich energy polo? 👀😂

@dariusleoncavallo2803 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and overview of the new rules. I still think that the FIA is going in the wrong direction with these new rules over the past few years, it's killing what used to be a beautiful sport for the benefit of entertainment.

@hannahmillington5781 2 жыл бұрын

How many minutes into the season before Karen Horner starts complaining about something on someone else's car?

@KendoSwordsman 2 жыл бұрын

So it's literally the nose, front wing and the floor itself that are open to development with the leading edge of the floor and diffuser more tightly regulated? Is that all they can develop on the cars aside from suspension and presumably limited braking solutions? Just trying to make sure I understand that correctly. What about the coke bottle area and the side pod inlet areas? Are they completely locked out of those or are they just severely limited in those area? Presumably no flick ups and winglets but I'm thinking just in terms of general shaping or contouring.

@Bahamuttiamat 2 жыл бұрын

@The Swordsman teams can develop in all areas but some are very prescriptive meaning the difference across teams is minimal. As ever in f1, it's the details that make the difference.

@haasteam9497 2 жыл бұрын

We already did!

@Stigismo 2 жыл бұрын

Brits just can't make a single video or speech without roasting Mazepin. I hope both he and Mick will get a decent car to drive and I also hope for somebody crasching into russel at every GP

@irishRocker1 2 жыл бұрын

I think it is much harder these days to find a silver bullet that nobody else has found because of sims. Teams can run sims to find results before putting the car into development.

@Appletank8 2 жыл бұрын

didn't they say sim time is also limited?

@dick_tree 2 жыл бұрын

First year of new rules = loophole city baby

@RicardoRodriguez-mh7my 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know Phil Collins was so knowledgeable in F1 history

@Will-kt5jk 2 жыл бұрын

Scarbs can feel it coming in the aero-fight (oh lo-ord)

@MostViewedTop40 2 жыл бұрын

Just had a thought by watching this. I seem to remember that in 2009 1 of the teams that had the double diffuser had it because of movement between employees of the teams. I think I am remembering that right, although I might not be. Because the pandemic caused this delay, there should have been more movement of personnel, so potentially could that mean that there is less chance of only one team having this magic idea, that the other teams haven't heard about?

@robh9577 2 жыл бұрын

3 teams independently developed the double diffuser. Williams Toyota and Brawn (old Honda team)

@ffvgaming3735 2 жыл бұрын

Good point on covid actually, i think haven't red bull bought out some merc engineers over the last year? I think they have to go on gardening leave so won't be able to share info until after that.

@tomvdz6370 2 жыл бұрын

Since wind tunnel time and cfd simulations are limited, what if they want to design some kind of component and by testing it they find out it is useless, will they get that time back since they are not using the component? Like in the last season with the cost cap, where materials for the car that weren't used, didn't have to be calculated into the cap.

@persey4542 2 жыл бұрын

What is that purpley-pink object over Scarbs right shoulder..? Lol

@LnDSuv 2 жыл бұрын

How do they control wind tunnel development? What stops a loaded team, like merc, from building another chassis, testing it in their private headquarters and claiming that they got all those ideas from official testing?

@v4skunk739 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly mate. And this 100% happens with the bigger teams.

@spac18 2 жыл бұрын

I hope so

@titancheat 2 жыл бұрын

Endurance racing has been more free overall to innovative imo. F1 just has the most intelligent aerodynamics.

@Unamatrix01 2 жыл бұрын

I am quite looking forward to the implementation of the revised suspension systems, do deal with the 18-inch wheels and lower profile tires. The new wheels and tires and requisite suspension systems are a massive deviation from the previous systems that relied more on tire sidewall deflection than vertical suspension travel. The data acquisition for this season will be at record levels. The kinematics of the of new modified suspension systems will be completely new for all the teams, as the historical data will no longer have a direct correlate.

@marcoscasado8698 2 жыл бұрын

Will be very similar to the 82 and 83 suspension.

@Bahamuttiamat 2 жыл бұрын

@Jason Joseph From a suspension POV the new tires are easy to map aerodynamically. They deform less making their modelling much much simpler.