I really doubt it.

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I've tried this, and the motor spins for a little more than 2 rotations and then stops. Seems like 4s is the min voltage.

when yuou find answers , please inform me

The brushless DC electronic speed controllers are located on the main board of the hoverboard. Theoretically it is possible to parse them out of the circuit and use for your own purposes, but I can't tell how to do it. It would take some reverse engineering skills including PCB re-tracing to understand the schematic and to figure how to re-use just the ESCs. I wouldn't do it. I would use some stand alone ESC that is properly rated for the job. In general the hoverboard motors are rated as 36V 10A. That is a 10 cell lipo battery. Find an ESC that matches or exceeds these values. There are plenty of ESCs available on the market today. Some are designed for RC models (drones/planes/cars) some for emerging electric bikes, scooters and hover boards. Anything from the latter category should suit your needs. Keep in mind that in order to get all the power rated for the motors (usually about 350Wt each) you will also need a proper battery. Wish you luck! Let me know whether you have more questions...

@@karacupa kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9h4a7F_y6mRhXk.html

No

There are some chinese controllers that can even make use of the hall effect sensors (runs better at low rpm), mine are still on their way so I can't tell you if they are any good. They aren't compatible with servo signals, though, they are controlled by a potentiometer (or any analogue voltage between 0 and 5V).

@@CatNolara on our chanel we have build some vehicles with this kind of controller, works perfekt :D

@@arbusa_productions you have nothing on your channel about using an esc! All it is,is you looking like a tool with crap music riding a stupid scooter.

@@Aussiem8e Says the adult who plays with toy cars :D

All hoverboard motors are delta. Never seen one in star winding.

Conecté un motor a 125 de la luz de casa y tremenda velocidad , si tocas la rueda te quema de la velocidad , alcanzó,los 145/k

The voltage should match your battery. As for the amperage, it depends on the power that you are going to need to drive your board. The heavier the board the more power you will need. You will need power not only to move the wight of the board working against the friction. You will need much more power to balance the board, in the words, applying significant pulses of torque in one or the other direction. Once you figure the power you can tell the amperage rating of your ESC: amps = power / battery voltage

hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking-40a-esc-4a-ubec.html This is the ESC we are using. We have tried it with other motors and it works, we just cannot make it work with the hoverboard motor

I can't really recommend you anything specific. In my tests I was using a 4 cell ESC that I found in my stuff. It was strong enough to turn the wheel nothing more...

You’d have to buy a motor controller with a Hall effect sensor, which is just a sensor that tells where the rotor position is and it should be able to go over potholes then

posibil here ..de.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20170220114103&SearchText=esc+30a

you need ESC that can handle your 36V and about 30A of current. Check the parts for electro-bikes. Here is one example: www.electricscooterparts.com/hookup/SPD-36500.htm

I am trying to do the same thing, but with 4 segway wheels. Can I just wire the reciever to the throttle wires of the e bike speed controller ? And do I need 4 e bike speed controllers or can I connect all of the wheels to one?

You can connect all to one if you want them to function the same on command. But different channels u can operate each motor independently.

ive found escs similar to these on ebay and they are so cheap i almost dont believe they'd work

@@auden_builds would you like to inform me about the result,

This esc is a smoke machine at 42V

You don't have to program ESC. Make sure that your battery is charged, check continuity between all three leads of the motor, don't forget to engage your ESC. Most ESCs have built-in safety feature which disables the motor until you completely throttle it down.

How would I check the continuity between leads? This is the ESC I bought. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UL3O2BO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's an Optic so I don't know if that has to do with anything... I have the same exact servo tester but when I connect the three leads and connect the esc to the battery the Servo tester has no lights turn on like in yours...

I meant the continuity between the motor' leads :) Your ESC should work fine..

Haha I'm still not entirely sure what that means lol. I've worked with ESCs but it's almost always been through a flight controller. I checked the batteries and they had juice... but the servo controller still would not turn on. I check the the part that plugs into the Servo Tester and it was not putting out 5v like it should... right? Maybe I got a bad ESC... In your experience is there anything I need to do to the ESC to allow the 5v to actually work? I don't know man you made it look so simple haha...

P.S. I appreciate the help;)

You do need some sort of brushless DC controller, alternatively you can run these motors using a source of three phase AC of the appropriate voltage (about 50V)

Your assumptions are totally wrong, the three leads connect all to the ends of a three phase coil system, the sensors are just for sensing the position of the magnets so that the right coils can get turned on or off, although most modern ESCs can work sensorless. Just connecting the motor wires to ground would make the motor lock in one position and heat it up very quickly (might even get damaged).

The original battery was chosen to meet the specs of the motor in terms of the voltage and current.

going off this what ESC should he use

You can run it forward and backwards in your, adjust some movement settings in your transmitter,

Probably not and it won’t me see sores either

Did you try that?

It all depends on the battery you are using. Make sure that its voltage and peak current don't exceed the motor's ratings.

Hello i finally got my Wheels in and i got a speed controller on it. I'm using a arduino to controller the Speed controller I here beeping once a second but when i go to program the arduino i get nothing from it and it still is beeping once a second. Not sure what to do i do not have one of them PWM controllers like you have. But i can use a arduino to do the same thing. Just not sure what is going on?

I don't think I can help you with it. But I can give you two tips. 1 - learn your ESC. Most of them have some sort of startup sequence designed to avoid injuries related to sudden motor starts at high RPM. 2 - I know that Arduino may produce very low quality PWM due to timing issues caused by interrupts. Make sure that for your purposes of controlling ESC you selected a pin that can produce hardware driven PWM. I hope it helps.

Hello I'm learning it i finally got it up and running. It took me a while to figure out how to get it started. But from what I'm learning the speed that i have will not be enough it is only half of what is required to get the Full speed and power of the motor. I'm buying a new speed controller that fits the Hub motor correctly But i have a question the Humming coming from the motor is that normal on Low speed?

make sure you have enough voltage. these motor wheels need at least 30V

Yes it would go significantly faster and have way more torque at low rpms

12V is too low. These motors need something about 50V. In this video I was using 15V.

to run the motor at the full power you will need about 40-50 V battery and a speed controller that can handle this voltage and enough current to meet your needs. check the comments to this vid somebody posted here links on suitable ESCs..

well , i do not want it to run full power , i want it to run slow , i will use , 30A esc with same battery of the hoverboard , what you think ? is it enough ?

Compiler X 30a should more than enough. Make sure your esc can handle the voltage..

Why would you say that ? Because of the low rpm ?

I assume you understand that each motor will need its own ESC. 36V 350W gives us about 10A of current. To make it save choose ESC that can handle 15A or more..

Alexander Kolomietz ok, but every time I ask the sellers of ESC answer me that they are not good, there is a line for the 36 volt one ??? would you be so kind to put me an ebay link ?? :)

something like this might work for you www.ebay.com/itm/24-36V-Dual-Motors-Electric-Skateboard-Longbaord-Controller-w-Remote-ESC/232603736744?hash=item3628435aa8:g:eGIAAOSwvD5aOMXT

Alexander Kolomietz tnx :)

@@karacupa can a different controller be used with it?

just buy dc controller 350 watts 36 volts it is 100% match with hooverboard motor

These motors can run any direction just like they do in the original application (hoverboard). Some ESC can drive the motor in both directions, otherwise just swap any two wires to reverse the rotation.

The average hoverboard motor has power of 350 Wt @ 350 rpm. This online calculator planetcalc.com/1908/ gives the torque of about 10 Nm. I can't say what the drill' tongue is. It depends.

@@karacupa is that per wheel

yes, the knob he is turning is basically replicating the pwm that a radio control would send to a receiver.

If it is a brushless DC motor ESC it should have three outputs. Just connect them to your motor's leads. Swapping any two wires will change the rotation direction.

you need more voltage! try at least four cells lipo

thank you!! I will try when I get my 4cell battery

make sure that your ESC can handle the voltage!

Hello Alexander, I have tried to make it run with my new battery, but I still run in to strange behavior. Can you watch my uploaded video an offer me more suggestions? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bceeppybp9qxlY0.html

I think you still need more voltage. Try to connect to lipos in series. Make sure your ESC can handle the total voltage.

Just a battery, ESC and servo tester.

@@saadtiwana Thanks! I can finally complete my project after three years.

@@drewmileham202 Good luck with that. Btw do you have any numbers on the amount of torque your motor can produce? Thinking of using one of those on a project requiring higher torques.

Вам не хватает напряжения. Нужно, как минимум 14В. Попробуйте четыре банки аккумулятора. Не забудьте проверить, что Ваш ESC рассчитан на такое напряжение.

Alexander Kolomietz Thanks, I'll try this

Unfortunately, no. Brushless DC does require a special electronic controller (ESC). I will not run being connected straight to a battery.

@@karacupa I just want one of it in only one direction unregulated

@@hejter7503 no way

@@karacupa and can I use motherboard from that hoverboard to control?

20/h

el motor en vacio gasta unos 10 watts 4 celdas son 4x4,2 =unos 16 volt

@1:39 the wheel starts and stops because it is driven by a servo tester - a small blue box that has two modes of operation: one mode is when I manually adjust the speed by turning the knob, the second mode is when the tester rump up and down the speed automatically. I can't say what is wrong with your hoverboard. If both wheels are dead most likely the problem is in the main controller or power circuit. If it is just one wheel, check its speed controller, motors windings and hall sensors. Wish you luck.

im driving mine off of an R/C controller, i can get it to turn at high speeds but for slower speeds mine does a start and stop thing like yours does. your video is very helpful though and youve given me some troubleshooting steps. thank you very much

i am pretty sure you just need few extra cells of lypo. it sounds like your setup doesn't have enough voltage. if you switch to a bigger battery, make sure you are using the properly rated ESC.

i'm usind a 60A 10 cell esc though ive only been brave enough to hook up 8 18650's to it so far haha. im hoping to use it to power a fighting robot

8 x 3.7 V is more than enough, so the voltage is not an issue. check your ESC. many of them are programmable with some automatic cut off settings..

Something tells me you are applying not enough voltage. What is your battery? You need 4 cells minimum just to barely turn that thing.

​@@karacupa I am using a 6s Lipo battery so approx 22.4V. However, I do not need the max power of the wheels and should be ok with 22.4V. I initially thought so myself, so I used a VESC instead of my ESC, and programmed it to draw 20V and 17A, and the wheels did manage to rotate.

@@georgepapasotiriou1708, Oh, 6S should be more than enough for that application. The next thing to check is your ESC then. May be it waits for some sort of safe initiation sequence. Try to run some other brushless motor with that ESC.

@@karacupa I believe I am initializing it correctly, I am following the standard procedure stated by the manufacturer. Do you think it could be the arduino that creates an error?

@@georgepapasotiriou1708 it is quite possible that the problem is in the Arduino. Try to replace it with a servo tester or RC receiver. Controlling servos/ESC with Arduino may be tricky. Make sure you are using the Arduino pins that handle PWM.

What are the alternative options?

You will see three wires from the motor and few (may be six) from the hall sensors. If you want just to run the motor you can ignore the hall sensors. So use three wires from the motor and connect it to any of the three output terminals of the ESC. When you switch any two wires the motor changes the direction.

ok! thanks man

Which one one the wires is a ? B ? And C ?

​@@stevenlim6157i think it doesnt care

I think this is 36 volt 650 watt motor

Base*Radius This is a brashness DC

Okay great.. so with your setup, are you using the inputs from the hall effect sensors .. or is just driving the motor? How does it time the coil energizing?

In this setup I am not readying from the hall sensors, I am just turning the motor...

and it works without needing to read the hall sensors it seems.. pretty cool.. I'm going to try this .. good job dude :)

What ESC? This motor will easily handle 5S. It can handle 10S. Check your ESC ratings.

Yes you can. Just make sure your ESC can handle this voltage.

Enes Celebi its because you ride so long

Thats normal

RC car ESCs have reverse.

Robert Greene, I tried the same thing with esc as you said, it didn`t work. Then i bought a 5-36v bldc controller (sensored) it worked quite well. Highly recommended

Onur Dokmetas I finally ended up using a fsesc skateboard controller. Took me about two hours to program it the way I wanted it but it works really well.

Probably would have been cheaper to get a hoverboard mainboard and use the hacked firmware to control the motors through it

deejayantz the FSESC is $72 and it’s awesome. Worth the money.

@@dokmetasonur could you please reply the full name of the esc you used and from where did you buy it? Regards

I used a smaller battery because my ESC was rated for 4 cells only

thx

Alexander Kolomietz oh that makes sense

Christian Wang I am trying to build a longboard with these wheels, but I don't know if I should use the original battery or not. Why choose for the original battery?

i am trying the same thing and wondering what esc i should use with the original battery, could u help!

did you ever do that, i had that idea the other day.

Wow your hover board is so special it uses an engine?

these wheels should work fine in your application

do you know a good cheap place to buy them?

eBay?

Did you find a esc?

Me too man!!! That's my next project...have you started this project yet?

Привет. Для подключения необходим специальный контроллер. Он отключается двумя способами. Или звездой. Или треугольника.

@@karacupa, то есть эти три провода - три фазы?

580 no load

It tells the controller the exact angular position of the wheel

@@karacupa is it really needed if just using on a scooter or bike of some kind?

Diy in the Ghetto, as long as you are not going to to build a self balancing board, you don’t need the Hall effect sensors

@@karacupa thank you.

You need higher voltage! Go for 6 cell lipo and you'll be fine.

You have 4cell li-po and you have high speed i have 3 cell but my wheel very very very slow. My wheel is like yours.

You need higher voltage. Go for 6 cell lipo. Make sure your ESC can handle it.

merhaba emre motoru sürebildinmi bende şuan aynı sıkıntııy yaşıyorum

I can't say. I dint try the torque.

One car battery is not enough to drive these motors. You need at least two, better yet, three such batteries connected in series to achieve the required voltage. Make sure your ESC can handle the voltage. Wish you luck

Alexander Kolomietz Thanks! Im probably gonna use a self built 6s lipo.

Alexander Kolomietz and one more thing. Do i need some special cells or can i use 4 UltraFire 18650 cells?

I would recommend to bump it up to 10 cells. It will give your about 33V. These motors are rated about 350Wt so your expected current will be just a little bit more than 10A. Make sure that your cells can handle that current.

Alexander Kolomietz oh ok!

you can't control two motors with one esc

The wheel-motor has two hall sensors installed. These are small black plastic components with three leads each glued into the body of the motor. For simple applications where you don't care about precise positioning of the motor, you can ignore them, don't connect to anything, leave the leads opened. They are not needed to drive the motor. Connect three thick wires from the motor' windings to the output of your ESC. That is all you need. Swap any two wires to change the spin direction.

Not true if your ESC can read back emf like on a drone.

Not true.

It all depends on the ESC. The controller is this vid is not reversible.

Alexander Kolomietz so its the controller that is only 1 way. also that esc looks a tad small for that motor. my math on a 3s is about 30a draw? is there a lot of heat. I'm building a robomower and these might fit the bill perfectly

I used whatever ESC was around just for the purpose of demonstration. For sure it is too small to drive this motor at full power.

Alexander Kolomietz thank you. I never thought of the hoverboard motors till I saw this vdeo

Hoverboards are manufactured in such quantities, that its components are probably the most cost effective on the market..

мотор без нагрузки много тока не возьмет. кроме того у регулятора есть ограничение тока.

Alexander Kolomietz конечно без нагрузки не возьмет, речь идет о нагрузке...мотор 36 вольт 10 ампер, 350 Вт максимум. Регулятор на 30 ампер легко вкачает и 25.

Это наспех слепленное демо из подручных компонентов, а не просчитанный дизайн функционального устройства ) Нагрузка не предполагалась..

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one video for electric skateboard hub motor conntected this system