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@poppiarlin5612 3 жыл бұрын
The first mistake is being in California!
@calvinevans8305 3 жыл бұрын
You remind me of JB from Louisiana Cajun Recipes, check out his channel if you want to learn some BBQ techniques.
@4-LOW 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother. California: The Land of Fruits and Nuts
@freedomisntfree5573 3 жыл бұрын
Spell it right. CRAPifornia! Or COMMIfornia!
@AC-fv7kt 3 жыл бұрын
If you can start a private business in California and survive you are doing something right and will survive in any state except maybe New York
@hikdingle2210 3 жыл бұрын
@SEAL CYCLE You didn't move to Texas did you?
@vortechdgt1 4 жыл бұрын
Still blows my mind that you even need a Class B w/ passenger endorsement to drive a 10+ passenger van in California (commercially). But you can go out and buy a 40 foot Motorhome and tow a boat behind it with no prior experience needed...
@lmsendit9531 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that is stupid
@mustangdemon87 3 жыл бұрын
@@lmsendit9531 wait till your stuck behind a bunch if them towing side by sides stacked on the 10fwy doing 35mph across all 5 lanes
@r3ady150 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it’s under 26001
@jacobcarter5923 2 жыл бұрын
That would be confusing if you thought a cdl-b was some sort of actual qualification. Hint: it's not, it's just to tax your business
@PlMPinDlSTRESS 2 жыл бұрын
NY now requires to get a endorsement on your class d license now if you drive RV or motorhome
@elmerbloom9987 4 жыл бұрын
At one time this was a free country now your only free to comply with whatever some badge wearing gun toting individual makes claim to . They all claim the other cop in the other state doesn't know what he's talking about.
@thomasritter3159 4 жыл бұрын
It is about road taxes and protecting the general motorist from ill kept equipment. I've seen some junk taken out of service at weigh stations over the year. In my area we had a problem with half broken down dump trucks for years. It took someone getting T boned and killed at a light by a busted up piece of junk dump truck who had bad brakes to things cleaned up around here.
@Mvp-AngelOfGod 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasritter3159 they don't protect shit stop lying
@AndrewBrowner 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mvp-AngelOfGod save your breathe, they can burn the world in the name of safety..
@dennismcclelland8196 3 жыл бұрын
Slowly but surely, this gets worse with every day that goes by. We are slaves ...and stuff :-(
@mikeratkowski3506 3 жыл бұрын
Lot of sad little boys, your fathers should have spanked your ass so you would act like a man when you were older.
@istvanmeissler2238 3 жыл бұрын
Call D.O.T. and tell them you have a F450 dually and it's only ever used for personal use but you want a DOT # anyway. They will refuse to issue you one. I know. I tried.
@peterbilt63 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a DOT Officer. You are correct Sir. You are subject to the Federal Regulations if you are in commerce (making money, furthering the business (any business)), and registered over 17,000 lbs intrastate or registered over 10,000 lbs interstate. People use "personal use" a lot and we have to determine if they are telling the truth. "Not For Hire" means nothing to me. If I can't 100% determine if you are in commerce I give you the benefit of the doubt. I would definitely stop you with that setup and see if it's personal use. I would question why such a big trailer for personal use but you explained it and are free to go. I would think it is a big setup for personal use but not unheard of. A recent example..... I saw a F-550 towing a large trailer with a large excavator on it. No DOT numbers on the truck. He was interstate and registered over 10,000 lbs. total. I checked the registrations and they came back to an out of state construction company. I spoke to the driver and he owned the company but said he was taking the excavator to his daughters to help her do work at her house. I asked what her address was and he didn't know but said she was about 10 minutes away. I asked him what her name was and he gave me her maiden name not married name. I wanted to cross reference her name in our computer to see if I could find an address for her. Nothing came up and everything was sounding suspicious. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he had his family in the truck and wasn't wearing traditional work clothes. An opposite example.... I stopped a guy in his own personal pickup with a large personal trailer and some kind of machinery/generator on the trailer. Everything combined was registered over 17'000 lbs (intrastate). No DOT numbers or name on the truck. The truck and trailer were registered to him. He said he was taking the generator to be tested for his company and they needed it there quick so he volunteered to use his truck and trailer. He is on the clock for the company and also this would be "in commerce" because he is furthering the company and he needs the company's DOT name and number on the truck and is subject to ALL the Federal Regulations. Some are clear cut and some are not. At least 90% of the citations I write go to the company and not the driver.
@Austin__ 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Bilt - I have a question for you. I will be pulling a 11,500lb skid steer with a few forestry attachments from Dallas to Magalia California to help my mother in law with clearing fire breaks around her property. This setup will surely be a tad over 26000lbs, however everything I’m hauling is my person equipment and i will not be advancing any type of company or profiting on this trip. Would this constitute not needing any of the DOT / FMCSA requirements, or will I need any certifications ? Thanks in advance
@peterbilt63 4 жыл бұрын
Austin V you are NOT subject to the Federal Regulations (DOT numbers/FMCSA, etc) since you are not making any money even though you are registered over 10000 pounds traveling interstate (crossing state lines). However you will most likely need a higher class license for your state. I am in PA and you would need a non-commercial CDL based on weight. I am not familiar with Texas to California state law requirements but I’m guessing you need the higher class non-commercial CDL. We get this a lot with personal RV type vehicles and trailers with drivers not realizing they need a non-commercial CDL based on weight.
@gread25 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Bilt, I am an owner of a company that from time to time might need to transport small forklifts or electric pallet jacks between our warehouse locations. If I'm using a company pickup truck pulling a personal flatbed trailer with a 9,500 lb. GVWR, would this be subject to Federal Regs? The trailer has brakes on all four wheels with breakaway, etc.
@peterbilt63 4 жыл бұрын
Greg Read this will depend on the registered weight of your pickup truck. By what you have said I would determine you are “in commerce”. If you are intrastate (not crossing state lines) I would add the registered weight of the truck to the registered weight of the trailer. If it is over 17,000 pounds total, then YES you are subject to the federal regulations. The trailer registered to you and not the company does not matter because you are in commerce for the business (furthering the business by moving equipment where it needs to be). Let’s say your truck is a half ton which would register around 7000 pounds. 7000 (truck registered weight) plus 9500 (trailer registered weight) is under 17000 so that configuration is under 17000 pounds and NOT subject to federal regulations. I have seen registration weights at exactly 17,000 pounds which is NOT subject to the regulations. Add 1 pound and they would be. AND........ when I get a vehicle or trailer that the weight is under-registered to save money, I pull out the portable scales for overweight violations. Then we go by what the door VIN tag says for weight which is the vehicle weight rating by the manufacturer. I see that every once in a while. Remember if you cross state lines (interstate) the weight drops to 10,000 pounds for the federal regulations.
@Austin__ 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Bilt thank you for all the great information !
@jclaydon3454 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a commercial vehicle/trailer as far as I understand. You don't need them!
@witkr904 3 жыл бұрын
Federal description of a Commercial Vehicle is “Any vehicle over 10k used in the furtherance of a business”
@forgotten320 3 жыл бұрын
In California last I understood all pickups are registered as commercial vehicles and are charged dmv fees based on "toneage" weight ...1/2 ton being cheapest and going up from there. If you put a tonue cover or shell on it you can register as passenger vehicle, but can get in trouble hauling items in it. California loves their fees
@dieselfumes8846 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making great videos! I’ve been stopped at the AG station on the 15 towing my RV trailer back from Vegas. I keep a not for hire on the truck now to keep the DOT mosquitos away.
@baileysconstruction7898 4 жыл бұрын
Idk about comifornia but most states if it’s not being used or owned by a commercial entity there is absolutely no need for any dot numbers or pulling into weight stations
@peep39 4 жыл бұрын
"I just bought this and here is the paper work" solves just about any trouble on the way home
@92powerdiesel61 4 жыл бұрын
@@DieselRamcharger Sadly, I wanted to get myself a flatbed for personal use as it'd be cheaper then replacing my clapped out bed. This has me hesitating to do that, I don't live in CA but I do want to take trips there in that truck as it's my only mode of transportation.
@firefighter0688 4 жыл бұрын
@@92powerdiesel61 I'm fairly certain that if your truck has a flatbed on it and it is registered out of the state of California then I don't think that they can do anything about it.
@machinist7230 4 жыл бұрын
@@92powerdiesel61 CALI isnt the only state that does this - NY wouldnt register my vintage flatbed with regular plates. I had to get historic plates.
@jessebiggsjr5762 4 жыл бұрын
I was owner/operator of big trucks. Hauled sand rock ect. I was NOT FOR HIRE. AS LONG AS YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PRODUCT\/ YOU BY PRODUCT N HAUL ""YOUR"" PRODUCT. IT DOES NOT BECOME OTHER PERSONS PROPERTY TILL I DUMP LOAD ON THEIR PROPERTY THEN U COLLECT YOUR MONEY BACK PROPERTY!!! IF U R NOT FOR HIRE N OPERATE WITHIN 200 MILE RADIOUS OF YOUR HOME BASE U """"DO NOT"""" HAVE TO HAVE YOUR NAME ON DOOR!!!!! OPERATE IN YOUR STATE ONLY, DO NOT HAUL OTJER PEOPLES PROPERTY U DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE USDOT # EITHER!!! USDOT IS FOR FORHIRE IN STATE N APPORTIONED TAGS TO RUN INTERSTATE!!!!! AS LONG AS U BUY ENOUGH WEIGHT TAGS IE= 30,000 # TAGS TO COVER EMPTY WT + LOAD WT WITH SOME EXTRA POUNDAGE TO SPARE GROSS VEHICLE WT TAG INSIDE DOOR JAMB DOSE NOT APPLY TO WHAT YOUR GROSS WT IS WHEN LOADED! DONT FORGET EVEN THOUGH U NOT FOR HIRE U STILL NEED CDL LICENCE IF U OPERATE VEHICLE LICENED (OVER)-26,000#, PERIOD!!!! EVEN UNDER 26,000# U STILL NEED CDL IF YOUR TRUCK HAS AIR BRAKES!!!!! IE:: AIR OVER HYDROLIC, OR STRAIGHT AIR!!!!!! THANK U FOR READING THIS. I HOPE IT HELPS. I WAS OWN/OP FER30 YRS... JUS LETTIN YALL KNOW WHAT IVE LEARNRD DEALING WITH THOSE SHIT FER BRAINS DOT/DMV ASSWIPES HERE IN GPOD OLE NAWTH KACKALACKY!!!!---aka -NORTH CAROLINA. YALL KEEP DA BUGS OFFN YER GLASS N DA BEARS OFFN YER ASS!!! IM GONE!!!!! HIPPIE
@Augiebracerofam 4 жыл бұрын
Great job. I noticed some scales in California have signs that say “No Pick Ups” so you can modify a bed to fit the 5500. The furniture you got from your sister can never ever be sold or it becomes a commercial load. No getting rid of it at a yard sale. Ha! Keep the great videos coming.
@mattehler3431 3 жыл бұрын
I came to this so late lol. If the GVWR of the truck is over 11500 no matter what use its for you are no longer a pickup and need special stickers and have to stop at weigh stations.
@jughead4life 4 жыл бұрын
As far as it goes around here, you're perfectly legal in your personal vehicle. That's how people get away with hauling a 17,000 lb camper without having any special license.
@thomasritter3159 4 жыл бұрын
Or boats. The difference here is the trailer is pulling is normally used for commercial work. He said he does have a class A license all the way to and including airbrakes. Like you said he should have no problems.
@patersonplankrd 3 жыл бұрын
Whihc is absurd. Government logic. Someone can be in a 16 foot box truck or a cargo van with dual rear wheels that has a GVWR of 12k lbs....If those are being used for interstate commerce, or intrastate beyond a 150 air mile radius, these owner/operators must have a USDOT /MC number or lease to a company and operate under their Authority. Meanwhile, the states and federal government allows a septuagenarian with so-so eyesight and the reflexes of a three toed sloth be able to operate a 45 foot long 30k lb Motorcoach RV towing a 5,000lb full sized SUV and the guy in the box truck or cargo van is a menace to society.
@delcasaleexcavating9508 3 жыл бұрын
I was up in New Hampshire in 2016 with my Lance truck camper on the back of my 2012 3500 Dually crew cab 4x4 but have the truck registered commercial through my business and have a class A CDL and medical card.... pulled into a rest stop and right into a D.O.T and State police inspection....so I'm like okay.... waiting my turn and two troopers come up to me and say.... what are you doing in this line ?... I'm like sign says DOT truck inspection.... They said you are exempt because you're carrying a camper and recreational vehicles are exempt...I said but It's a commercially registered company truck which I also use for camping... and I have a class A license and medical card....he says..as long as you have a camper whether it's truck mounted or towing it..you don't need to stop for any scales or inspections.... I'm like okay.. but is that only in New Hampshire ? He says nope that's a federal law so you're good anywhere you go.... He also says. We already ran your plates and license and your all good.... and have a great trip !
@hey_youtubeim_back2159 3 жыл бұрын
RV's are exempt from needing the same endorsement unitl a certain Weight threshold. Zcant remember that number but I believe it is 26k
@rupe53 3 жыл бұрын
@@hey_youtubeim_back2159 ... that's the rule for most cases, but as soon as you have camper or RV plates you are basically exempt from everything, including air brake endorsements. They treat a 40k lb Prevost RV the same as an E-350 camper conversion.
@didntevensmokeityet 4 жыл бұрын
Love all your setups, Sam... learned a lot from your videos and I think you're an asset to people who use KZfaq for tutorials, product reviews, and just general entertainment..
@paulnewkirk7351 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to crossing or passing scales, the dot can treat you however they want. Legal or not. They can always find something to mess with you over. Im glad that you are doing well.
@thecordlesscarpenter7956 2 жыл бұрын
Love your style, and in CA too lol. I've struggled with getting a CDL but decided not to. My CVWR is 44,000 lbs (F550 with 20+5 dual tandem), I haul heavy loads, from bulldozers, loaders, even yesterday I hauled a 20' container BUT everything I haul is MINE, I own it and it is NEVER used in a commercial enterprise to make money. Every CDL manual for the states I've had to drive in or through has the exemption for the personal and or recreational vehicles, this is what makes me comfortable with my decision. Thanks for the video Sam!
@projectmayhembronco5457 Жыл бұрын
If you are a California resident they have a non-commercial class A and B license that is required for anything over 26k GCVWR or a trailer over 10k.
@renzorenzo9736 Жыл бұрын
So you haul all of your equipment with a regular driver’s license?
@renzorenzo9736 Жыл бұрын
@@projectmayhembronco5457 So is this guy just driving with regular drivers license?
@thecordlesscarpenter7956 Жыл бұрын
@@renzorenzo9736 Yes, and have never gotten a ticket.
@thecordlesscarpenter7956 Жыл бұрын
@@renzorenzo9736 I've been pulled over by a few state troopers and they all want to know why I blew through their weigh station. I simply tell them I am non-commercial and show proof of ownership of truck, trailer, and goods on the trailer and they all give me a stink eye smirk and let me go on about my business.
@jcdahippie 3 жыл бұрын
Different states have different requirements. Difference between your enclosed trailer and your open trailer as far as the bug station, they can see what you're hauling on the trailer. DOT regulations are for commerce. You can drive a semi as personal use. You need "Not for hire" signs visible and you're not under DOT regulations.
@Military-Museum-LP 4 жыл бұрын
The more your channel grows the more critics you will hear from. You will have people determined to ruin and do as much damage as possible. The true followers who appreciate your work and your efforts to share your life will continue to follow and as always the thumbs up. From your fan in Italia.
@VBELTandSON 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@4rember 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked how you explain everything about DOT NOT FOR HIRED
@paulrollinsjr.1845 4 жыл бұрын
Full support of you and the channel. You dot your I's and cross your T's always very calculated and within your capability. Hell even if you were an outlaw trucker I'd still be proud to roll with you
@73cjproject 4 жыл бұрын
I know I took my set up (3500 srw diesel with a 40 ft 20k lb trailer) with pictures to the dmv office here in Florida and explained it was to haul my mudding toys to events and they called the state office in Tallahassee and said I did not need a cdl or dot numbers of any kind. Same scenario as a 45 ft class A diesel pusher motorhome with a 30 ft enclosed trailer behind it. No special licensing needed.
@rupe53 3 жыл бұрын
73cjproject ... you can thank the RV industry for that. You can drive a 40k pound Prevost RV with a big trailer without a CDL as long as it's privately owned.... and no age limit (retired people) or medical card needed.
@brentmunro3062 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of two complete rigs,if you have a bunch of equipment to haul you could load both trailers the night before and save some time
@salvadorewilliams8957 2 жыл бұрын
its absolutely legal. I'm from Texas and I'm working in Minnesota currently. Pulled my 40' gooseneck all the way here and will be pulling it back next month. I always drive 5mph or more over the speed limit. I never stop at scales, no DOT #'s and have never had any problems. I have Class A CDL with all endorsements and DOT #'s on my SEMI. I haul anything i want on my gooseneck because everything i do is personal use.
@blacksheep9734 4 жыл бұрын
“My grocery getter that happens to be a 3500” 😂😂😂 Lmfao
@hopeandbranden 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is I use my f350 as my daily so what's your point?
@blacksheep9734 4 жыл бұрын
hopeandbranden 🤦🏻♂️ its just funny guy no need to get pussy hurt, i don’t care what you drive. I have a 3500 dually thats a flatbed that I use to daily drive too... I bought a gas saver because a dually isn’t practical for doing 150+ miles a day.
@hopeandbranden 4 жыл бұрын
@@blacksheep9734 ask what your point was. You act like your better then anyone else. News flash nobody cares. Some folks will only drive fullsize diesel trucks as a daily and some drive mini vans.
@blacksheep9734 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Struble exactly 😂 i just thought him saying that was funny i dont get this guys problem.
@blacksheep9734 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Struble i was thinking he was trying to sound like mr. Big dick bragging that he drives a f350, guess what nobody cares lol
@quagmiredavis4117 3 жыл бұрын
I move my farm equipment back and forth Texas to Tennessee for our family farms no numbers or bs no issues
@mackwoodcock7484 3 жыл бұрын
If youre a farmer its not against the law to do so. I think you have up to 75 miles radius from your home that its allowed (depends on your state)
@quagmiredavis4117 3 жыл бұрын
@@mackwoodcock7484 I ignore that BS its a communist rule ... if I need equipment I have driven 1000 miles one way . I'll go To hell with hiway nazis.
@kevinanthony2724 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Place in Michigan and Farm in Kentucky Farm plated F250 and same trailer. No stickers nothing F Kalifornia I ride through Ohio weekly never bothered.
@steventucker6422 3 жыл бұрын
If you move farm equipment and it’s over 26,001 lbs you better have a class A CDL, and if you go over 150 air miles you better be running a log book.
@dennismcclelland8196 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't studied this for awhile, but I believe there are two entities that we are capable of engaging others as: 1. We conduct commerce as a public citizen, with other public entities, and 2. We can contract as private entities with any other private entity, and that our right to contract without restriction is protected by constitution. So, as far as I know, that means that you can even "earn" in some situations in whatever vehicle you choose. Or as you say, "personal use", because, for example, earning a wage to eat and survive is a right protected by the 9th amendment, etc.
@sprucegoose1016 4 жыл бұрын
Your grocery getter is all good. I totally agree with you 😎👍 Great video as always 👌
@genek121973 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus people, he DOES NOT NEED DOT OR MC Authority! A CDL is all that is needed for personal use vehicles over 26k gvwr.
@VBELTandSON 4 жыл бұрын
Gene Fugatt haha thank you! Had fun making this video never the less Thanks for watching
@genek121973 4 жыл бұрын
@@VBELTandSON no worries. Keep the great content coming.
@jclaydon3454 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I understand. You can run anything even a Semi (80k) without USDOT#s as long as it's not a Commercial load. (Not For Hire")
@billjohnson9343 4 жыл бұрын
J Claydon, thats the way I understand it also, hence these gigantic motor homes that don’t require CDL...
@mattphillips1910 4 жыл бұрын
@@jclaydon3454 Correct. I haul a 40' 5th wheel RV with a Pete 330. I have a Class A, but not DOT, CA, or any other numbers required on that rig.
@David_Mash 3 жыл бұрын
In the Drone world, if you make a KZfaq video with the drone and get money from it, that flight is commercial. So if the FAA was running the DOT, you might technically get a lengthy warning letter lol. But my Cummins has passenger plates too so I feel ya! Fun video.
@thomasholt7939 4 жыл бұрын
I was just pulled over twice in the last 6 months. I was hauling my little tractor not for hire as well. They both told me one cop a dot and one cop chp. They both told me the same thing 26k with a single vehicle if u add a trailer anything over 10k for personal not for hire needs a none commercial cdl no dot numbers needed. If making money with it need cdl mc and dot . I still have the tickets if interested in what they wrote me up for.
@dfballou 4 жыл бұрын
under your circumstances you do not need a MC Number,DOT or CA Number unless you are 10k pounds or above combined weight and are registering as a commercial vehicle...If not a commercial registered unit then no none are needed,not even a not for hire sign. Read up on the FMCSA rules and Calif. rules and double check for yourself,if you have not done so yet. clears up alot.
@jayg479 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I dont run DOT just CA number. Go into oregon all the time no problem. Also says trucks with 20k gvw must enter good thing were at 19.5 lol
@wildcatcowboy6591 4 жыл бұрын
I make short runs with my personal dually and 35ft goose neck. I cross state lines and the loads belong to a commercial company but I have no numbers or any of that crap. California is screwed up!
@crbconservation4449 3 жыл бұрын
We operate in the South, headquartered out of Mississippi, we run 550s and 36' goosenecks, and we don't worry about any numbers in our commercial pickups, we only run DOT numbers on our tractor trailers and have no issues
@deweyosborne928 2 жыл бұрын
True ; it's a not for hire set up , for personal use. However , at any point you can be pulled over a given a road side inspection on any vehicle personal or for hire.
@jonathanhuggins3010 4 жыл бұрын
Man I love the content, been watching your channel for years. Just don’t pay the super truckers no mind. It doesn’t matter if you are over loaded all the damn time or not. It’s non of anyone’s business. I feel sure they don’t abide by the laws all the time. You have to get the job done either way. Regardless you have covered everything just fine man. Keep it up!
@luvdady 3 жыл бұрын
yeah till its your people killed on the hi-way then its all a different story. or your new cars totaled and you lose thousands , in claims.
@jonathanhuggins3010 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa there buddy calm down..there is a difference between over loaded by 10lbs vs 10,000. just like with anything in life you have to use common sense.
@bobvincent4841 4 жыл бұрын
3:20 i hadn't watched the rest of the video and, yep, ur right, totally legally. Done writing the comment at...4:23 now enjoying rest of video!
@tonychilds884 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You are 100% fine. Not being paid? Don't need DOT or MC number. You own the cargo? Same Your neighbors cargo? Same, not necessary unless you are being paid to haul your neighbors stuff. CDL class A might be needed though (I know you have yours) if your combined GVWR exceeds 26,000 pounds (and at the same time hooked to a trailer with a GVWR that exceeds 10,000 pounds) or hazmat or hauling around 16 people. There are one or two states that are screwy and say if "you have a GVWR combined over 26,000 pounds OR hooked to a trailer with a GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds"!! Here's the other 48 states/FMCSA definition: Any combination of vehicles which has a gross combination weight rating or gross combination weight of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) whichever is greater, inclusive of a towed unit(s) with a gross vehicle weight rating or gross vehicle weight of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds) whichever is greater. That's straight from FMCSA website. No CDL needed when my 9,000 GVWR truck is pulling my 14,000 GVWR trailer because they don't exceed 26,000 pounds combined.
@stevenward8167 4 жыл бұрын
I live in SW Wisconsin and only a 15 minute drive from both Iowa and Illinois. I have talk to all three states DOT about this same thing and they have all told me as long as I'm not making money that I don't have to worry about DOT number. And just because your buddy is paying you 20 bucks to take his lawnmower across town that doesn't count as making money.
@larrymuniz4115 4 жыл бұрын
All legal, before I watched the video! Keep rolling Sam.
@peep39 4 жыл бұрын
The back of my tilt car trailer hangs out past the rear axles like that. Makes turning at intersections a little hairy if you are squeezed into lanes with other people next to you
@davidfulkerson1187 3 жыл бұрын
I have been a tractor trailer driver since 1996. I have a class A cdl. As long as you're using your pickup and trailer totally for personal use you are not a commercial vehicle and you are not required to have all the markings on your pickup. With that said you can also use your work truck that does have all the MC numbers and use it as a personal vehicle and be legal to use it as a personal vehicle as well. As long as you're not engaging in any for hire commerce
@richardrice3137 3 жыл бұрын
you DO NOT need any commercial markings if a vehicle is NOT used for business. you have your vehicles correctly marked as NOT for hire as required which exempts the requirement for all the markings. the same applies to class A vehicles not used for commerce. I do the same thing up and down the east coast and have not been challenged anywhere. any DOT official may stop any vehicle on the roads and do an inspection.
@drich6816 4 жыл бұрын
It makes a difference on who paid for it and how it will be registered. If the business is tied to it in any way now it is commercial now.
@VBELTandSON 4 жыл бұрын
Dan what business? No business here
@sstein49 4 жыл бұрын
Dan not in Texas USA I have no idea about crazy California
@drich6816 4 жыл бұрын
@@VBELTandSON How does the title read for it? Is it in your personal name and your personal insurance or is your business paying for the tags and insurance? That is what defines the difference between commercial and personal. As you will be using that trailer for work at times. It a gray area. Be safe, great videos
@drich6816 4 жыл бұрын
@@VBELTandSON Just going from past experience . I guy from work borrowed the big trailer from work. He got in to a bad accident while towing it. The D.O.T took the trailer to go over the load and check the chains, brakes the whole 9 yards.The lawyers ended up taking the company to court and won as the had bigger pockets to drain. I'm sure legal wise your fine to tow it as you did but liability wise it goes off who's name is on the trailer.
@VBELTandSON 4 жыл бұрын
Dan it will be paid for with my personal money. No business money paying for it. Personal name on title
@afluffypinecone3577 4 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, if your GCWR is above 21,000 pounds or if the vehicle has air brakes, you should need a CDL. The only time you'd need a DOT/MC number is if you are engaged in inter/intrastate commerce, otherwise a "not-for-hire" sign should be posted.
@rockingkvideos3160 4 жыл бұрын
All good information. Your not the only one with an out of the box disappointment. A few months back, I bought a PJ dump trailer, got a deal🙄. Brakes out of adjustment, two of four wheels loose and missing 4 lug nuts, hydraulic reservoir over filled and blew all over the place, back doors were out of alignment and needed to be worked. Happy now though😃. Enjoy your new set up and thanks for sharing👍👍👍🇺🇸
@southerndirt9589 4 жыл бұрын
Tractor time with Tim did a KZfaq video with a dot officer explaining everything
@bndwoodlands775 3 жыл бұрын
Dirt Perfect did as well except without all the hand and arm movements! Officer Hoover was the guy in both videos.
@richardmccay7943 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t need if not hauling for hire . Can run personal with a cdl
@Youhaverights6 3 жыл бұрын
It's private not personal. The people are not persons. Persons are employed. People have no duties. Using the legal name and date of birth incorporated you into the corporation as a citizen. Never call yourself citizen or resident unless you fully comprehend and you want to. This is not a joke.
@supermanclarkkentsr4667 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youhaverights6 thanks
@Daveate1ate 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youhaverights6 be a little more clear?
@crazyDIYguy 3 ай бұрын
I bought a dump truck, single axle, gvwr 16k lbs. The state made me get commercial plates because im over 10,000lbs. My insurance forced me to use a business so i used my DBA as an electrician. 🤷♂️ Other than that it's strictly for personal use, always has been. If i get stopped i have no idea what's going to happen. I just transport building materials i get for free to my land to build my house. The truck was $1400. 😬
@karlmurphy290 3 жыл бұрын
I am a fully licensed carrier. We haul boats nationwide. The rules are very simple, for any who wish to interject their stupidity. If you are being paid to haul ANYTHING across state lines a federal DOT# is required. Also, you will have to be associated with an active MC#. This also can be applied to cattle and race cars, if you are racing in paid competitions. As a personal vehicle, GVWR or GCVWR does make a difference. Technically, if your weight is over the states regulated weight you will need to cross the scale at a weigh station, but NO states enforce this on a personal level. Generally, that number is 10,000 lbs, some states are 20,000 lbs. Some states are commercial vehicles only in the weigh station. Most have signs before every station that will tell you what you are required to do. California is easy. If you are not a semi, do NOT enter the weigh station no matter what. They actually get upset, like you are wasting their time. I pull oversize boats through California with a RAM regularly, and never go into the weigh stations. All other states you must go into the station if open, unless you are given a bypass with the electric sign that some have. For the purposes of this video in California, it doesn't matter if you're commercial or not. Do not enter the weigh station. As far as personal vehicles and trailers, just keep on moving, unless you're being paid to move your load. Campers are interesting. They are being manufactured heavier all the time. Remember, your actual weight is NOT what they go by. Officers do not give tickets or any problems to individuals moving their personal campers, even though they are over the 26,001 lb threshold. If your GCVWR is 26,001 lb and over, you ARE required to have a CDL, even with your personal vehicles. That being said, it is not enforced... But, it is something they can charge you with if they want to. So, be nice to the officers, drive safely, and all will be just fine.
@BackfromthePastHAHA 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on your video. I think you are hitting the nail on the head.
@wconstructionco 4 жыл бұрын
No wonder it's such a PIA the move freight in an out of CA. So much so, I try to never sell anything to anyone in CA.
@gearjam1933 3 жыл бұрын
The key to commercial or private is making money or getting paid. If you are not for hire and you were in a class 8 truck with a 53 foot trailer loaded with lumber for you to build a personal house you are not commercial
@JR-oo3pt 3 жыл бұрын
In Ca all of our personal pick ups are registered commercial. the give away is the one letter on the plate in lieu of 3 for a personal non commercial truck or car(truck with a shell) can be registered non commercial
@MrTechElite 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine how mind blown the haters would get when they find out you can buy a tractor and full size trailer and still not need a CDL while not for hire.
@karlmurphy290 3 жыл бұрын
This is not true. You need a CDL at 26,001 lbs and over on the GCVWR. It doesn't matter if it's personal or not. The question is if officers are going to enforce it or not. Generally, they leave people alone on personal vehicles, but you are definitely subject to the law, whether you are for hire or not.
@tico9861 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlmurphy290 farm here up to 80k non cdl
@karlmurphy290 3 жыл бұрын
You got me there. Each state has a whole different set of rules under the farm classification.
@stevenjones618 2 жыл бұрын
@@tico9861 well there are exemptions Jesus h... lets split hairs.. ok 90 percent are not farners....
@ChallisVenstra 4 жыл бұрын
I got the William Painter sunglasses ad before the video. It’s the same pitch man as the Dr Squatch soap ad. I ask you, is he the new Billy Mays? Here’s hoping.
@tombsycles 2 жыл бұрын
I roll in Atlantic Canada. Run an F800 with 2 trailers I own, all 3 registered in my name. Have a CDL, and paid the registration fees for the DMV's weight-rated haulers. Even paid a new additional fee to become an NSC operator. I haul my own items only. Not commercially plated either, as such is not required... but paying for weight is O.K. The mandatory-minimum of $2M insurance is hefty / annually. Every time I'm close to a weigh scale, I pull into the right lane. If my trailer is empty, the lights after the camera's say "Truck pass scale". If anything is loaded on my trailer... "Truck report to scale". No issues yet, but given the times of today, safely guess it won't be long until the needless hassle begins. In Canada, "NOT FOR HIRE" decals are like an automatic target. I also do not have decals that state :Fire extinguisher inside", nor "First Aid Kit on board". Respects to you. Love your videos. Tom.
@axysdnyd 3 жыл бұрын
Just because you have a large trailer with a 3500 or other pickup truck doesn't mean you need to have a CDL and/or DOT #. You only need to have that stuff if you are running for-profit freight. Hauling for personal use doesn't require anything more than a regular license and vehicle plates, registration and personal insurance. The state would have to prove you were using said vehicle and trailer as for-hire purposes to require getting them licensed as commercial vehicles.
@kadenprickett5826 4 жыл бұрын
I took a Chevy 3500 dually with a 30’ gooseneck, put a 3500 duramax on the gooseneck hauled it from Minnesota to South Carolina for personal use. Never hit a scale never was stopped. Talked to a state trooper when I was filling up the truck. It’s a non issue.
@m.weston7114 5 ай бұрын
It is an issue, you just havent been caught yet. I guess it's not illegal until you get caught. Commercial DOT cops are different than regular cops. Regular cops are clueless in commercial FMCSA rules, because they hand out parking tickets and know nothing else.
@geraldkoth654 4 жыл бұрын
When I spent the winter in Cali, I observed the 55 speed limit. Lost 1 mpg because my truck is happiest at 62 mph
@VBELTandSON 4 жыл бұрын
Gerald Koth right?! 100% believe that.
@rctjacksonville 3 жыл бұрын
As long as your below 26K they cannot give you a ticket if your carrying your own stuff. We own a card dealership and we can haul a car or 2 as long as we dont go over 26K. We have to have proof we own the vehicle on the trailer. We cant use dealer plates on any of the vehicles, they have to be registered and insured except for the vehicle we just bought. We also cannot deliver vehicles we have sold with the truck and trailer. We are in Florida but have been to other states.
@randyretired8443 Жыл бұрын
I use a class 8 truck to pull my 5th wheel and occasionally my backhoe and skid steer on a flat bed. The equipment is only used on my mountain property never commercial. No CDL or DOT#. No problem
@Military-Museum-LP 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Valid points you made. I think if it's titled in your name and not a company your considered private.
@m.weston7114 5 ай бұрын
Valid points made from opinion, are not facts, just uneducated opinions and rationalizing.
@1slow5point0 4 жыл бұрын
Good to go here in Texas, we do the exact same thing basically.
@ronm5848 4 жыл бұрын
My DOT buddy in Ohio told me to never put a "not for hire" on the truck he said those are the first he targets because so many people try and use that to hide behind. He also said around these parts if I was pulled over in my 5500 dump w 2 ton of stone and I am going to my house then I am personal, however if I say I am taking one ton to my house and one ton to my buddies that I could be subject to fines since it's not all for my personal use. Worst part of any of this is you can get pulled over by 5 different officers and I'll get at least 4 different interpretation, and same when I called the federal DOT office . I am all for safety, I know of an accident a friend was in where lives were lost, so now I try and go over kill on trucks and trailers, but man this has sure caused me a bunch of grief with DOT stuff, I've had a CDL for 25 years but always seems like I am missing something when pulled over, and I know of several guys hauling skid steer a on over loaded 10k trailers w pick up trucks because of all this, which works for them, until it doesn't...... My .02 is we force people to do dumb stuff because there is no middle ground, not everyone needs a CDL just to tow a skid steer, there should be something in the middle.
@gearjammer4779 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a trucker for 40 years. My father also owned a trucking company he started in 1966 in California. Most of the truck drivers out there have no business making comments because they’re full of shit and don’t know anything. Pay no attention to them because you practically have to hire a D.O.T. attorney to decipher all of California’s ridiculous rules. Most truckers out there under 50 years old don’t know what they’re talking about . A lot of CHP Officers don’t even know what they’re talking about. I once got pulled over near Oxnard in my brand new Ford dually back in 2000 because I had tinted windows. I had just got back from Oklahoma and tagged it there. I own property there but I lived in Lake Elsinore, CA at the time. This stupid officer became beligerent and told me my dually pickup was illegally licensed because I didn’t have a California tag. I had a California Class A license so he said the truck had to be tagged in California. I told him it wasn’t illegal to own property in different states but it WAS illegal to have 2 drivers licenses. He was very rude. I went to court in Ventura and brought the deed to my little house in Seminole, OK to prove to the judge that I owned property there. I had the window tint removed before I went to court so that citation cost me $10 and the judge threw out the illegal registration citation. I had the window tint put back on the next day. California can bite my Bakersfield born butt. I’ve been in Oklahoma for many years now and I don’t regret it. All you truck “drivers” out there that don’t know the laws need to shut up and leave this young man alone. 😏
@1978caterpillar 4 жыл бұрын
Gearjammer agree 100% best I have ever heard it put with the attorney deal and is totally true that’s why some law firms as well as specialty companies exist just to get people / companies legal because it’s a nightmare that no single person can possibly explain especially cops who for some reason people believe “know” , they know SHOW ME THE MONEY!
@5150cash 4 жыл бұрын
@19:53 you can see what it is if you look closely at the logo. LoL but ya I'm a gear jammer and I don't run anything that small. So you do you and i do me. Don't know why everyone hate to hate on everyone else.
@bomberdude17m 4 жыл бұрын
cash5150 I was going to say the same thing haha
@tiptoplandsolutions1421 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a boot for the Bob Barker's 🥾...lol and a button 🖲️ to push ,cause there fun to push....Have a great weekend ya'll..!
@vid1fl Жыл бұрын
Your personal vehicle doesn’t need to be registered period. If you decide to put it in service then you register it. I have an F250 it’s been a grocery getter. Eventually it’ll go into service and I’ll get my DOT and MC numbers at that time. Great video man
@claudiofagundes9502 2 жыл бұрын
Well I'm not in or from California. But to answer your question. I believe for ( personal ) use no numbers needed but you said it's a back up to the work rig so in the event your using it as a back up doing what ever the work truck normally does then you would need the lettering at those moment's to be compliant. On a further note where I live if I'm off duty of my business but doing something for the business I need to log it as business related becouse it's a tax right off on milage or fuel. Also if tou work in construction at a site but are hauling your acquirement to the site that's a work activity so you are on the clock the moment you start driving. At least that's how it is in my state of Massachusetts
@13eckerlosmuerte 4 жыл бұрын
That's what california wants you to think, they want your money as soon as possible because it's a taxable item
@thomashannahjr1983 4 жыл бұрын
" Everyone needs a little inspiration from time to time " Thanks Sam #V-BELTandSON
@williambuehler2533 3 жыл бұрын
The part where you're correct is its personal not for money. You hold a class A cdl so you have the license for the weight if the dot does stop you. However that is not necessarily a requirement. Most states have an alternative either endorsement ie "recreational" or a non commercial class A.. I think alot of it comes down to the mood of the officer that stops you, as to how hard he wants to try to prove or make you prove whether or not you're making money with it. That includes if a 3rd party is paying for your fuel. What gets me is that according to TX troopers that I have spoken with its perfectly legal to drive a 350/3500 which have ratings over 10,001lbs on a class C.. but they stop you for looking commercial (ie large trailer) or even hauling an rv. Because your rating is high enough to require..... Several years ago there was an incident: So empty trailer 40' goose and a 3500 a guy was stopped and shut down. Turns out that he was driving his sons truck back to the house after something happened causing the son to stay with the other vehicle (wife got sick or something) Son did do hotshot but I do not recall much from it I don't recall there being dot numbers ect. But the trooper said the design (gvwr) of the combination and length required a CDL A. The son took to Facebook looking for someone to finish the drive and they would be given a ride back where ever they needed along with some cash. (It was more specific about pay) so between this incident and my talks with TX dot it really depends on the officer to decide if he wants to look at the vehicle as possible commercial violation. Another tidbit I heard was that those who put the "not for hire" stickers drew more attention as alot of hotshot companies were doing that at least at that time..
@dcarr5533 2 жыл бұрын
Oklahoma 24k requires DOT unless Farmed tag. Quad tandem usually is that and dually truck puts your combine over that. That is why used quad tandem trailer are usually cheaper in OK.
@donskelly120 4 жыл бұрын
Okay to begin with you said your trucks up forwards going to make you money you do your own homework and double-check it just to cover your butt and stay within your legal limits don't worry or be concerned about what all these other wannabes say out here I was a driver for 31 years and I drove on and off military bases doing high-security loads and otherwise I was considered just a common carrier to the public I made some very sweet money and I don't care who said what I did all of that with a college education I made more money driving a truck grew up around the business and just stay with your legal limits on what you need to do it doesn't matter what the other guy thinks they're just a bunch of bucket mouse anyway that's all so just wish double-check do your homework and it's a money make you a money maker keep it plain and simple stick with the basics in life and I do mean the basics and you will go far you take care of Ella and have a good time Trucking out there there's nothing wrong with it I made a good living with it for many years
@killer2600 4 жыл бұрын
I can't remember the last time I read so many words without a single period, comma, or semi-colon.
@fullretardcustomguns837 4 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@djhoftender4793 4 жыл бұрын
Love learning about thingd i never knew
@philthelawnman 3 жыл бұрын
2.5 million miles as a trucker here. You may get pulled but should always be able to drive away no tickets. Just keep it between the ditches shiny side up rubber side down. Now the DMV is saying if you have brakes on a trailer you must have no cdl class a. Your golden drive on. Transportation or Apportioned is when you are hauling paid cargo. Not shit you are buying and selling or doing construction with. To many know nothing know I alls out there. Not For hire is in the CDL manual. Also RV use.
@rondacus 3 жыл бұрын
25 year California CDL (Class A) holder chiming in. "Personal" [Not for Hire] means personal. "Commercial" [For Hire] means commercial. No jurisdiction for personal vehicles (to my knowledge). In 25 years of trucking, I've never known it to be different.
@cumminschevy5275 4 жыл бұрын
So what do I need for a personal flatbed tow truck.
@noworriesmate8287 4 жыл бұрын
Cummins Chevy No of your business!
@cumminschevy5275 4 жыл бұрын
@@noworriesmate8287 dam troll
@cumminschevy5275 4 жыл бұрын
@@dixiemae5042 yeah he has some nice ones.
@mikestrucks 4 жыл бұрын
Dixie Mae hahaha...
@mikestrucks 4 жыл бұрын
Cummins Chevy thank you 😉
@Big_Papi_78 4 жыл бұрын
V-BELT and SON - now you see why I recommended that Brand of trailer. Can't wait to upgrade to them as well 👍👍👍
@markrugman1435 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does if you are polling Gooseneck trailers because they are work trailers not personal use trailers. Your breaking the law end of story
@Big_Papi_78 3 жыл бұрын
@@markrugman1435 What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with my comment
@jeffcourtney8101 3 жыл бұрын
Just because its a gooseneck trailer does NOT mean that it is used for COMMERCE. Lots of people own gooseneck trailers and use them personally to haul atv's/utv's like he said. I've used mine to haul tractor/brush hog to land I owned at the time while when we were building our home. I haul firewood to family members. I use it for lots of things. The part people don't/can't seem to understand is that if your not using it in a way that generates revenue/income then it's considered PERSONAL USE. PERIOD, END OF STORY!
@jeffcourtney8101 3 жыл бұрын
@@markrugman1435 Wrong! Being a gooseneck has nothing to do with the way a trailer is being used. If its not being used in a manner that supports/generates revenue/income then its considered personal use. Hauling furniture, automobiles, motorcycles/atv's, gravel, brush, dirt, or anything else possible. If it's being used for COMMERCE (either intrastate or interstate) only then is it required to have DOT #'s, Gross weight rating, etc. etc.
@WH6FQE 4 жыл бұрын
You are not required to register and get DOT numbers for personal vehicles that are not for hire. I have a retired Peterbilt that I have converted to an RV, and I have no markings at all on it anymore, and I do not stop at scales.
@williamsanders2808 3 жыл бұрын
In Colorado, if you are driving any company owned truck and trailer with a GCWR of over 26000 lbs you must display a DOT Number, and company name. This is regardless of weather you own the company or not. If the vehicle is registered to the company, it needs the stickers. If registered to just you, and it's your cargo, no stickers needed. We do not need the weight stickers in Colorado. f using a pickup, and trailer, you only need the DOT Number on one of the two. My company put the DOT numbers on the trailer, as we only needed it when pulling the trailer. If the vehicle is registered to the company, you will need the appropriate CDL for the weight ratings. If it's private property, and not company registered, no special licensing needed, up to certain weight restrictions, (Not sure what those restrictions are) where you will need a Private Carrier Permit, and a CDL. This is all based on Colorado. Other States have their own regulations. And of course Federal Law covers Commercial vehicles, as well. In the end, do your research, based on your State (or Country, this is an international venue), and follow the local laws. Stay safe, and keep the underside down.
@brianherron5400 4 жыл бұрын
That's a Diamond C trailer, great trailer 👍🏻.
@jayg479 4 жыл бұрын
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@timon0x31 4 жыл бұрын
There are no issues in CA about needing CA or DOT numbers when it’s your personal vehicle and trailer as long as you aren’t using it or have it register to a business. This is done all the time with people who have large 5th wheels. Having a personal gooseneck trailer normally used by businesses as a personal trailer although legal for personal use it’s going to draw attention. Hauling equipment used in your business with you personal truck and or trailer is a no no and will get you in trouble. I’ve had this discussion with the CHP when I was looking at getting a 5th wheel RV.
@nicholashosslogan3444 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a class a heavy hauler semi/hotshot/dump truck driver, laid off right now, but ohio is supposedly changing it to where most people will have to have a class a non cdl . We have large cattle trailers/dump trailer/flatbed trailer (goose neck) for the inlaws farm. So told my inlaws just to call me of they are going to want anything heavy towed. I mentioned this stuff about what ohio dot is doing to my father in law and nephew, now whether they go down that route or not is on them. But i know also in ohio if only for agriculture they will grant you so many miles and can make your regular license into a class b .
@jetfleet5 2 жыл бұрын
A single vehicle with a GVW capacity of 10k or more in many states is considered a commercial vehicle regardless of whether it generates revenue. Regulation of such vehicles depends on the State. I am only speaking with regards to the weight of the vehicle and nothing else.
@johnestrada7357 8 ай бұрын
In not entirely sure the ag station is a dot scale it may be a combination of the two but ag station just keep moving trucks and boats from bringing invasive species into ca. Fire wood is a big no no and fruits and house plants.
@DDM502001 Жыл бұрын
So long as NOT for compensation requires NO DOT Number, in MO once cross 32,000 license must have name, vIn and home town on sides, DOT still not required.
@PrevostJoe 3 жыл бұрын
NO reason to pull into scales in the first place. All you do by doing that is open a can of worms. Private trucks have no responsability to pull into the weigh station
@chrissamuels8021 4 жыл бұрын
In any state you do not need a dot or mc or any kind of cdl as long as its your personal use i drive an 08 3500 with 26,000 or less pounds and they cant do anything about it bc its personal use they have never messed with me when i get pulled over they just check the breaks and lights to make sure im running safe. Its all legal as long as your not making any money
@chrissamuels8021 4 жыл бұрын
Also you dont need a not for higher sticker.
@dantheman6931 4 жыл бұрын
In California, no DOT# needed for personal use but you would need a class A to pull that trailer. The truck with the flat bed would never be considered for personal use. The 55 speed limit was enacted to save fuel, not for safety but safety is a positive side effect of that law.
@VBELTandSON 4 жыл бұрын
dan theman I forget did I mention I have my class a Cdl in this video? Honestly can’t remember
@d.brownjr.4845 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it's no one's business what you haul or not. Believe you me IF the DOT has any questions they'll ask. Just have the right answers to stay out of trouble. I'd rather have it not need it than need it not have it. Amen!
@tycloud4601 4 жыл бұрын
There are videos floating around that to pull a personal fifth wheel camper with a 3500 dully you need a certain class CDL. ( I can not remember what class was talked about in the video)Or for that matter any trailer. I haul my New Holland TC33d compact tractor in my 12,000 lb dump trailer with my 03 Dodge 2500 a lot of the summer. I have never been stopped by the DOT. Your video is great information! Thank you
@williameggleson424 3 жыл бұрын
I run Not for hire and personal use only stickers on all my trailers in Washington. But my truck is licensed for 32000 witch makes it so I need my CDL. In Washington it states any trailer gvw over 10000 lbs is required to have a CDL. But they are just now starting to in force the laws. Love your videos. Im a retired trucker 2 million miles on the road . Now I just play with my tractor's
@robertbullcarmichael9856 2 жыл бұрын
Personal use is exempt! If used for COMMERCIAL PURPOSES then it is required. Non commercial, personal use is exempt. Great video.
@ChallisVenstra 4 жыл бұрын
According to Utah state law, all livestock must stop at the scale house. Ask me if I’ve ever stopped. “A nation of scofflaws.” 🇺🇸
@JeffGoldSr 3 жыл бұрын
I used to drive an f350 wrecker with no name, numbers and no “not for hire” sticker as my personal vehicle. DOT pulled me over once and once I told him it was my daily driver and I didn’t use it for making money, he said have a nice day.
@erikd3843 Ай бұрын
I have a ram 5500 rollback registered interest in New York with a GVW of 19,500 that I’ll be using to relocate to Florida towing my wife’s car and I don’t believe FMCSA laws apply. According to FMCSA law 390.3, section f- 3 : (3) The occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation and not in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise ARE EXEMPT !
@texgarcia1958 4 жыл бұрын
OK so a couple things. The 1st one would be your truck having a not for higher sticker on it. You are technically not for hire if you are transporting your own equipment. Many super truckers miss understand what not for hire means. If you are for hire it means you are transporting someone else's equipment or product. Not for higher means you transport your own product and/or goods regardless to whether you are making money or not. Examples would be and equipment rental business such as I owned in the past. Another example would be rock quarries or building material house. As for the DOT number, California did start requiring that a few years ago. There's really nothing to it. Basically you fill out the paperwork and you have a dot number. Now we are not talking about a motor Carrier authority. That would be something different. But again you only need a DOT number because you are technically not for hire. Btw, Congrats on the new trailer purchase. 👍
@1978caterpillar 4 жыл бұрын
Tex Garcia hey Tex, man we have had much different experiences! I own a rental company and was stopped in 2017 towing absolutely nothing but a cat 277, no attachments at all just the machine and the guy was set up at an abandoned gas station about a 1/4 mile from the off ramp where I got on this particular road and in this distance I was going idk maybe 40-45mph and this “officer steps out from behind a sign right in front of me and I am telling you it was a matter of feet with me standing on the brakes to keep from hitting him, if I would have been blinking when this guy stepped out I would be in prison right now for running over this guy it scared me to death lol. Says to me “can you get this thing in this parking lot here”? Yes sir I say and pull into the rather small parking lot where I see his cruiser and spot the grey van tucked on the other side, now I can tell you from head on this guy had no idea if I was sporting all the legal stuff or not or for that matter what I was pulling but he was clearly going to check it out either way. After I got parked guy walks right up as I’m rolling the window down drops the tool on my window as it’s in motion to check for tint which I did have at the time and was under the legal limit in my state btw,..then asked for my paper work while stating “I would appreciate it if you could put a move on it’s quitting time” , hand this guy the normal stuff immediately, License, registration and proof of insurance...while he was checking that out I was getting my binder with all the other stuff that is neatly organized in there when 5 seconds later I hear “ahh ha”! To shorten this up I was there for about an hour and a half and had the entire deck of this 35’ trailer “that I owned” covered with paperwork, when it was all said and done I left there or “attempted” to leave there with $3800 in fines including tint, lack of IFTA, over weight and something else I can’t remember. In this particular combo of my personal truck which was registered for 13580 (roughly) and gooseneck which was registered commercially at 20000 I weighed 27 something all up on portable scales and was given a citation for being 17 something over (whatever the difference over the personal truck was registered for). I was cordial as possible with these guys until the end, keep in mind I cordially explained after being asked that I owned all of this stuff...they don’t care as one guy sat in the back of the van and referenced books as I asked questions at the end. I was red tagged and had to break the combo up and retrieve trailer and skid steer later with “appropriately registered truck” in order to leave there...I was 20 minutes from my destination and 7 hours from home too when I was told “this can’t stay here this is private property and we don’t know who’s it is” , I say so help me understand this you are telling me I can’t leave here he says “correct” and you are also telling me I can’t stay here he says “correct”... I then ask ok what do you recommend that I do? "sir I cannot give you legal advice”...guy walks to his cruiser as the other guy is buttoning up the van and I suppose out of pure shame the guy walks back and says I can tell you this...in the entire state 2 dot officers are currently on patrol duty and we are going that way when we pull out have a nice evening. This was with all personally owned, late model stuff that was nice and shiny with enough paperwork to start a library. My luck I guess, I have other stories that are far crazier, some are actually funny looking back on them. Steven King couldn’t make this stuff up. I can say that until I started venturing out past about an hour radius of my hometown I never had a single issue ever. I don’t know others experiences and can’t speak to them but it seems to me from what I have gathered over the years that it boils down to luck of the draw as to what is legal and what is not legal and that’s why I have said in previous comments on the topic that it makes no difference who you ask or what anyone says really it just seems to matter who stops you and how the quota looks that day I guess. I should probably say that I do a lot of driving (I don’t want to but have to) shuttling around various compact equipment and specialty items to my different sites all over and therefore probably have a greater chance of being caught for something than most I don’t know. It also seems that rigs like Sams make easy targets for these guys as I have sat after being flagged into inspections while I watch them wave old junk freightliners thru with coat hangers and duct tape holding parts on and then spend an hour with a fine tooth comb going over my stuff. I know there is a lot of good law enforcement officers out there and I don’t envy the job at all but it sure seems that “To protect and serve” has turned into “collect and suffer” at least on this front. Have a good one Tex.
@MrRShoaf 4 жыл бұрын
@@1978caterpillar Transporting a rental piece of equipment to or from a customer of a rental company does sould like commercial use.
@1978caterpillar 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, however if I am the customer that day....the water just gets muddied so fast.
@texgarcia1958 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrRShoaf yes, commercial use. But not for hire none the less. The rental company is transporting its own property. Aka a private carrier.
@garyleeadams6211 3 жыл бұрын
I think people should commend you on your videos and maybe take some lessons on you doing your due diligence and investigating all the proper laws and permits you should be commended not shunned good job great video and I drove truck for 35 years
@VBELTandSON 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I appreciate that! Have a good day 👍🏻
@jesseadams9149 3 жыл бұрын
Your fine. Personal use=NO need to add all the money and BS to that truck and trailer. People are just gonna hate. Keep the videos coming!
@aarongoode3524 Жыл бұрын
From what I have looked into if any vehicle and trailer is cable if caring over 26k pounds then you have to have at least the lowest class of cdl. When you have a cdl and the vehicle and trailer are not intended to be in use at your business then you don’t have to have dot and all the other stuff. Just a cdl of any class
@richard_w51 4 жыл бұрын
Im in so cal and I work at a feed store and I can’t tell you how many people have dually pick up trucks. They all have them for personal use. Never seen dot #. And some are up there in Weight. But seem to do just fine. I think you are ok with the grocery getter.
@mrmotofy 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of people speed, but doesn't make it legal
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