2023 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid AWD Off-Road Test Disaster!

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Things go horribly wrong when testing the off-road capability of the new 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid with All-Wheel Drive on our Peninsula Off-Road Test Course.
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@gschweiger
@gschweiger Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you showing your frustration, mistakes and realizations. It makes for a very honest review.
@fixedwing1
@fixedwing1 Жыл бұрын
My impulse comment is basically the same so I agree. Reality vs "instagram moments". Ryan is keeping it real.
@aprilweimer1979
@aprilweimer1979 Жыл бұрын
This … The ground clearance is only around 5 - 6 inches I wouldn’t be trying to crawl over any kind of trails like that without at least 8 inches of ground clearance. I really wonder how this would perform in snow or sand which is primarily what I’m interested in for this vehicle. It also comes with a 19 inch tires and I wonder if it would perform a little better if it had an off roading tire.
@Flying-Fox19
@Flying-Fox19 11 ай бұрын
Ground clearance would make a difference along with good off-road tires. Would fitting performance tires on Corolla sedan vs a Civic with stock tires racing on a track? Hell yeah. 19 tires for this small SUV also would feel more uncomfortable on bad roads.
@jstrecu8054
@jstrecu8054 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you showing when things aren't going smoothly, and how an experienced person would act in those situations.
@GLBProductions
@GLBProductions Жыл бұрын
Well done Ryan for keeping calm and composed enough to film and narrate AND sort out the situation all at the same time 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@AarmOZ84
@AarmOZ84 Жыл бұрын
An economy crossover SUV is definitely not a first choice for someone wanting to off-road. However, mad respect for testing this little SUV to its limits.
@johnpalmer4996
@johnpalmer4996 4 ай бұрын
What a wonderful vehicle to buy, checks all my boxes. 45 MPG, can tow 1500 pounds, can do a little off roading , handles snow pretty well, has 8 inch height above the ground. Love the safety features like emergency automatic stopping my minivan doesn't have. It's also made in Alabama . I use my 2018 Kia Sedona to tow my 25 foot Panga boat, I roll my lawn tractor into the back of the van etc., but it burns a ton of gas driving in stop and go traffic areas. I'll keep that van and purchase this Toyota for everyday use. Now I'll have 2 great vehicles that'll do all kinds of things well, I can go on long drives with the Toyota and not burn a lot of gas, I can go down dirt roads with some confidence I won't get stuck in a rut in the road , I can tow a 16 foot aluminum boat 200 miles and not burn a ton of fuel, I'll have a vehicle that I can drive to a hospital during a snowstorm and with the Minivan I can tow big boats, haul enormous amounts of cargo and transport up to 8 people. Who needs a pickup truck ? Win Win!
@hopnhike
@hopnhike Жыл бұрын
I love the vehicle. Not for 4x4 trailheads but I think if might be fine for difficult 2WD trailheads. I learned a lot from your skills as a driver! Thank you!
@hystericalJuggernaut
@hystericalJuggernaut Жыл бұрын
Ryan you are consistently the best reviewer for not only testing off-road capability but showing the ease of the full recovery process like this and the new raptor for when things go south!
@fstein9099
@fstein9099 Жыл бұрын
The furthest offroad most of these will get is if they park on the grass beside the driveway
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
As with many crossovers and Jeeps as well. Most people never leave pavement with their vehicles, the worst they do is hitting a curb at Walmart.
@ogalief
@ogalief Жыл бұрын
And of course they have to put on all these plastic appendages to make it look rugged, and make all of the ads look outdoorsy. In reality, it can't handle much worse than a gravel parking lot
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@ogalief Which is mostly where these types of vehicles are driven...the worse they may see is snow and ice on the highway and possibly side streets in town. That's all I'd use a crossover for anyways. Except I wouldn't pay the kind of money dealers are asking for this junk. For that kind of money I'd rather have an old Jeep Cherokee XJ that has been properly restored.
@Jayman77
@Jayman77 Жыл бұрын
You are an amazing reviewer and driver. You understand how these AWD systems work, and ways we can manipulate the AWD system to get it to do what we would like to do as much as the computers allows. Great recovery. Everyone needs to see this. Keep on testing the limits!
@koskos1971
@koskos1971 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you showed all the effort but really its not your fault. In the beginning we didn't know that Rav4 and corolla cross as well as yaris cross are only 4x4 in the label behind. The truth is that the motors in the back wheels are too weak in power in order to push the car and if you watch your video you will notice it . Its not the rocks or the place . If you had an 1.5 Ford Bronco sport or a Subaru you could notice the diference. Even a Huyndai Tuscon 1.6 would do better because it splits the power front and back equally. Warm Greetings from a subscriber and fan from Greece .
@whafrog
@whafrog Жыл бұрын
Wow, kudos for showing the whole process. A testament to your integrity! Also, great learning for the rest of us! 👍
@davidl.howser9707
@davidl.howser9707 Жыл бұрын
Finally....A very honest vehicle review channel to watch very often. Nice !
@mirceaisaila1454
@mirceaisaila1454 Жыл бұрын
No Corolla Cross was harmed during filming :))
@joeytucker341
@joeytucker341 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing us all a new use for traction boards. Before today, I was only aware of their use as a fashion accessory on urban dwelling overlanding vehicles.
@therealjeffg
@therealjeffg Жыл бұрын
Really interesting to see the recovery….thanks for continuing to film that bit…..slowly slowly is my take away.
@tomkato6400
@tomkato6400 Жыл бұрын
While it must have been frustrating for you, I’m glad you did this to demonstrate the limits of a CUV. If I owned this vehicle and have to drive off pavement quite a bit, I would invest in some All-Terrain tires. Those Michelin Primacy scream MPG and pavement.
@scottk1562
@scottk1562 7 ай бұрын
Yep. Can't blame all of the short comings on the vehicle. Most of his issues are tire related. Does not take a rocket scientist to understand this. The Cross is not a Trophy Truck after all.
@Blue.Crawler
@Blue.Crawler Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you for staying calm with what could have been a bad situation. Glad it was just a scratch as the black knight would say
@eamonob84
@eamonob84 2 ай бұрын
A scratch? Your arm’s off!
@jeffreysmith4304
@jeffreysmith4304 Жыл бұрын
I'm Glad it was just Scratches and A/C Condenser TY for showing us the "Mistakes" Along with the "Victories" It Actually Strengthens your Credibility Knowing you don't Hide The bad Stuff
@timyen75
@timyen75 Жыл бұрын
real and honest off-road test is this channel. thanks
@johns6816
@johns6816 Жыл бұрын
Great video, shows the true nature of trail riding!
@creolep6882
@creolep6882 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate your unbiased and honest reviews. Definitely makes me rethink any future lease options I have with AWD here in the NorthEast
@jamiecraswell9368
@jamiecraswell9368 Жыл бұрын
Wow ! My heart was in my throat while watching you get this car out ! Great video thanks!!
@spencerloop284
@spencerloop284 9 ай бұрын
What’s good man! I kinda found this from the rav4 video! I appreciate the recovery efforts… because I feel like this this is a quite real situation. I always end up sweaty and frustrated, but out of the situation. Sweet use of tools to get out of the situation, thankfully it was familiar to ya!
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 Жыл бұрын
You do what nobody else does. As interesting to watch as the ID4 overland trek.
@IndoZambian
@IndoZambian Жыл бұрын
Great to show the whole process! I also wonder if these types of CUV AWD systems are really meant for inclement weather. They offer better control on wet pavement/rain and snow vs. going off road.
@kevinb2844
@kevinb2844 Жыл бұрын
Great and practical question… while it may be more interesting to watch a video about off road-guarantee 97 percent of people who buy these vehicles need them for conditions on road and main videos should be how they function in wet weather and snow.
@Jim-bh7gs
@Jim-bh7gs Жыл бұрын
Interesting, but the only off road I'll ever do is the supermarket parking lot.😊 I am still very interested in the corolla cross hybrid.
@paulc2548
@paulc2548 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review of the off road all wheel drive capability. You do a very detail on 'off road' test in every videos and I love it. You are about the one who reviews cars and trucks' all wheel drive/4WD in full details, great job. Thanks for sharing videos with all of us out here.
@kenhoward3512
@kenhoward3512 Жыл бұрын
"TFL Off-Road" channel does a very analytical test of each low-traction situation using variously-placed rollers under the wheels, along with an off-road course.
@burakalkan4137
@burakalkan4137 Жыл бұрын
This review was kinda,... honest, and I like that about it, not everything goes smoothly in the world
@user-vh9fn2qg6v
@user-vh9fn2qg6v Жыл бұрын
Great job! Best car reviews on KZfaq.
@farcinue
@farcinue Жыл бұрын
Well, got a lesson on how to use traction boards too! Glad nothing was badly damaged.
@FM-ij7iu
@FM-ij7iu Жыл бұрын
I know this must have been so frustrating but I couldn’t help giggling. Thank you for sharing this with us.
@jovenciorefuerzo9157
@jovenciorefuerzo9157 11 ай бұрын
My wife and I are thinking of having this for our family. Thanks for a good review, it did help a bit.
@GTRJohnny66
@GTRJohnny66 Жыл бұрын
I love that you did the test I would want to do, but would probably talk myself out of doing! :)
@cluelessdriversofcolumbuso2227
@cluelessdriversofcolumbuso2227 Жыл бұрын
Great review and awesome awesome AWESOME job keeping your cool and walking us through the whole thing even as things don't go to plan
@kenhoward3512
@kenhoward3512 Жыл бұрын
I think Toyota would say this is an "all-weather" or "soft-road" vehicle, not off-road (especially with no underbody protection).
@garrettyankton5411
@garrettyankton5411 7 ай бұрын
This is a great demonstration of why you need proper tires. Street tires like the ones on this car would have struggled with most vehicles. Same would go for winter conditions
@welcometfreddysplace
@welcometfreddysplace Жыл бұрын
Thanks for stepping up to do the real reviews.
@deltaorion4826
@deltaorion4826 Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of chaos reviews I subscribe for. Now waiting for the Bronco sport hybrid coming out next year.
@0HOON0
@0HOON0 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. My favorite chaos review was Ryan's trip into deep, deep back country snow with the ZR2 Bison. Thought it was going to turn into a survival episode. 😂
@SethPinnock
@SethPinnock Жыл бұрын
This is a very informative video. It certainly provides insight in escaping non-ideal traction situation.
@saeedhamood8877
@saeedhamood8877 7 ай бұрын
The most honest review I'v ever seen. Thanks 👍👍👍
@ted9592
@ted9592 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I am looking at one of these. I dont go seriously off-roading, but this tells me it can do the basic off-road that I need. I need a nice toll road commuter that can go into the country once in a while.
@MrBryant240sx
@MrBryant240sx Жыл бұрын
Maybe get yourself a second set of wheels for when you know you will go offroad.
@johnnylau77
@johnnylau77 Жыл бұрын
Because of this video that everything is real. I hit the bell for this channel
@arnesu3242
@arnesu3242 11 ай бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. All the best from Germany.
@robertlee7332
@robertlee7332 Жыл бұрын
I am glad no chickens were harmed during filming. : ) Love your videos.
@cofffeejoe2079
@cofffeejoe2079 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always!
@denault3985
@denault3985 Жыл бұрын
Great recovery Ryan...boy, that was close! 😳
@Cruzan9
@Cruzan9 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks!
@ItsAlive111
@ItsAlive111 Жыл бұрын
I like how you were putting on the seatbelt every time you got back in the car until you started getting hot, sweaty, and tired of trying to climb up the rocks
@atmartens
@atmartens Жыл бұрын
Great review. I was wondering if it would ever get out!
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Ryan. We’ll just keep driving our Subie’s. They do everything we need them to do, well, I don’t take them to my fishing hole.
@irenecohen8708
@irenecohen8708 Жыл бұрын
I am watching this because it popped up on my feed, we just bought this vehicle and love it. I live in southern California and have no plans for off road traveling, snow, ice, rocks, etc. Using the bridges, etc. reminds me of the rear wheel drive Volvo I had in 1988 in New York State. I was constantly getting stuck in snow drifts, getting uphill during a snowstorm was difficult and after using my plywood boards and kitty litter I would fishtail all the way home. I think the 18 year old Subaru Outback I just traded in would do better under your conditions.
@chad.breece
@chad.breece Жыл бұрын
Was looking to buy one of these buy ended up with a Crosstrek instead. I'm happy with that decision
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
I think the Subaru is a much better choice...they sometimes get a bad reputation due to some engine issues a few years back, and the CVT but I think Subaru has corrected a lot of that, and their Wilderness line has got me interested, for 99% of what I do a Subaru Forester or Outback Wilderness would work just fine.
@nathanmrg2
@nathanmrg2 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your insight, its really meant for very light duty off roading, nothing crazy. I see that using all season tires would help over the hard stock pavement tires on this vehicle. Do the bigger 18 inch wheels on the xse make a driving difference than the SE 17 inch wheels for rough roads? I'm not sure bigger aluminum wheels are better especially with respect to gravel, dirt, and mud as well as the maintenance (rock chips in rotors, electrical components etc). I would think 16 inch wheels would be better for this. Lastly, did you notice the stop start function at all, or is it electric torque with the pedal when AWD is utilized from a stop? It doesn't clear the memory when you push back on the pedal does it from a stop? It would be nice to have a function to turn this off sometimes so the computer realizes to keep AWD. I'm not that familiar with the Pruis 5th generation platform and its AWD computer.
@paulcwyuen
@paulcwyuen Жыл бұрын
I think an SUV is not designed for serious off roading like this especially with normal road tires, but anyway thanks for your demonstration.
@davidrobbins1936
@davidrobbins1936 Жыл бұрын
great video! Well done!
@stevennevins6643
@stevennevins6643 Жыл бұрын
This guy should have a million subscribers.
@Slybabyfox
@Slybabyfox Жыл бұрын
Great review especially for this honest off-road test. I am so jealous that the US verison are AWD for standard, as we only has the FWD version in China.
@gordonleung9008
@gordonleung9008 Жыл бұрын
Own a AWD Hybrid in Australia. The car is basically 2wd, awd is just for light gravel and better traction in the rain
@bjsimon802
@bjsimon802 Жыл бұрын
you need the tires, and higher lift. Because they offroad hybrid in ukraine and russia, they do well. This is not high enought because hybrid are meant to save fuel. Also they have low resistant tires for fuel saving. Upgrade to Rav4 Edge, or called Adventure.
@BernonCars
@BernonCars Жыл бұрын
Seriously good on you for getting it out on its own!! LOL wow that really was a plot twist 🤣🤣
@andersriksson100
@andersriksson100 11 ай бұрын
Nice, seems pretty capable on fair trails but I guess occasional towing is more common among most drivers...? I have'nt yet seem a video with the Corolla cross pull a loaded boat trailer say 700-1000kg up a slippery boat ramp - any video suggestions or other input? Will the rear wheels help sufficiently if the front wheels loose grip?
@diegoromero-perez635
@diegoromero-perez635 10 ай бұрын
Dude, I was gonna buy one just like this, thinking of it as a 4WD vehicle with off-road capabilities, which you just showed and proved does not have. Totally out of my list! Thanks for showing the things dealers would never tell you.
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 9 ай бұрын
Why were u thinking it would be a capable off-road vehicle?
@10cef
@10cef Жыл бұрын
Thrilling! That was FUN... for us. But you really had me convinced that this vehicle is good enough for me.
@bjsimon802
@bjsimon802 Жыл бұрын
All hybrid have low resistant tires, swap out the tires and maybe there will be difference. There is offoading videos of Hybrid Rav4 in ukraine, and it did very well for hybrid. The tires dont grip because they are meant for pavement and his meant to save fuel and does not have clearance. It needs lift kit and some terrain tires, and i am sure it will do well. But for now it is meant to save fuel, and save money. That is what hybrids do.
@jaydog5509
@jaydog5509 4 ай бұрын
This is so funny but thank you so much for sharing to not off-road with this suv I feel your pain just watching.
@TrainerAQ
@TrainerAQ Жыл бұрын
Hey! He finally did it! Now I get to judge this car on it's off road performance!
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss Жыл бұрын
Thank God.. It was definitely a Butt Puckering moment, Ryan.. I was already worried for you and how much it would cost to repair it.. Glad it was just the A/C condenser.
@0HOON0
@0HOON0 Жыл бұрын
Ryan has sold A LOT of 4Runners for Toyota over the years. They should comp him an oil pan.
@stephenwinter8892
@stephenwinter8892 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video however I'm waiting for my 2023 hyundai tucson phev 😮
@aaronbehindbars
@aaronbehindbars 8 ай бұрын
I think most people buying these aren't expecting a ton of off-road prowess, but finding the limits is how you know how to stay within them. A set of tires would make a huge difference. Falken makes a Wildpeak A/T Trail in the stock size (for the S and SE with the 17's). Better traction might have allowed slower speed over obstacles...less damage underneath...maybe. Perhaps some underbody protection, a small lift, and A/T tires might make a Corolla Cross Adventure Hybrid to give Toyota something to sell against the Crosstrek.
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 10 ай бұрын
Fun video, good thing it only received a scratch. Could you bring the Mitsubishi outlander to test the 4wd please! I am looking forward to buying one, and I am curious to see how the AWD works
@bderris
@bderris Жыл бұрын
Ironic that the license plate frame says "Let's go places."
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh Жыл бұрын
yes but it doesnt say specifically offroad 😉
@dinobot_maximize
@dinobot_maximize Жыл бұрын
oh were you expecting a land cruiser out of a corolla. it can go 99% of places except up a mountain which you probably never do either. derp
@ericpizarro3084
@ericpizarro3084 Жыл бұрын
It was a disaster indeed!
@bderris
@bderris Жыл бұрын
@Today.s-Noah-Zack-Wintz-UTube calm down. Just commenting about the irony.
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh Жыл бұрын
most people dont offroad so theres nothing wrong or ironic about the slogan 😊
@georgesbv1
@georgesbv1 Жыл бұрын
What I like about AWD from Toyota is that they use well the hybrid technology. Front engine and forward transmission, electric motor for rear.
@DROC9169
@DROC9169 Жыл бұрын
Very good video!!
@quixomega
@quixomega Жыл бұрын
Im not surprised, this really isnt something that screams "offroad me" and I doubt many owners will be trying anything more intense than a gravel road. The CX-30 review where he got it stuck didn't stop me from buying one.
@Chineywhale
@Chineywhale Жыл бұрын
Great review! Please be careful bending over behind the cars on such slippery hills!
@tedantares2751
@tedantares2751 Жыл бұрын
Crap! I'd go for a Forester!
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Me too. A Subaru Forester or Outback Wilderness will hopefully in the not so distant future replace my aging bad tempered 2005 Ford Taurus LOL.
@williamnigh5979
@williamnigh5979 6 ай бұрын
Not an off - road guy but your video was entertaining and I am glad the car is in good shape. Bill
@malkashmiri
@malkashmiri Жыл бұрын
Great review, 👍
@stonepa
@stonepa Жыл бұрын
Great video! Real world problems and situation.
@kgpax
@kgpax 6 күн бұрын
Main problem is this awd system is not really awd...it's more like an fwd rear assist system
@peterpascone6942
@peterpascone6942 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I always appreciate your videos. Would you say that the standard AWD is better off-road than the Hybrid? I heard that the Hybrid doesn't have as much power going to the rear? Also, does Toyota make any underbelly protection for the Corolla Cross that can be added? Thank you 😊
@jwpiranesi
@jwpiranesi Жыл бұрын
I love ur videos so much
@hoskin1452
@hoskin1452 Жыл бұрын
Would you compare this to something like the newer Jeep Compass? I keep comparing this to the Compass and I can’t seem to find anything online that compares the 2 vehicles.
@indaydongtv5139
@indaydongtv5139 Жыл бұрын
Nice review ryan ❤️
@beaglesinthesun
@beaglesinthesun Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for posting. I noticed that my SFW has front tie-down hooks located between each of the front tires and the front bumper. The O.M. states these can also be used for towing in addition to the bumper designated tow hook eyelets. Did this vehicle have those?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
No. This relies on a tow eyelet and the receiver wasn’t installed since it was a pre-production vehicle, unfortunately.
@futureairways5099
@futureairways5099 Жыл бұрын
This was probably your best video. Cheers!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Ryan, This reminds me of the time that Ponderosa Pine threw itself in front of your new 4Runner and then tried to lay the blame on your doorstep. I am sure I speak for all 319,000 loyal subscribers when I say - the rock was clearly at fault!! 😉😂
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
😂
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports Thank goodness you have the video evidence to support what some cynics might consider to be a far fetched claim. 😁
@nickwaller5119
@nickwaller5119 Жыл бұрын
AWD is just a marketing word that makes the average consumer feel “safer”…. At least in a lot of vehicles these days
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Until it snows then AWD/4WD just means makes every bad driver feel overconfident in their lack of driving capability.
@IbraheemALBalushi
@IbraheemALBalushi Жыл бұрын
You are doing a good job
@trainstractorscarsandtruck7362
@trainstractorscarsandtruck7362 Жыл бұрын
Not that I do rock climbing but I noticed paddle shifters. To limit the speed of spinning tires are help with traction control, maybe next time put it in manual mode and 1st gear.
@Pyjamarama11
@Pyjamarama11 Жыл бұрын
Good on you for trying but I'd keep that little thing on the soft tracks I'd like to see how the Fiat Panda 4x4 handled that
@KaiFootikum
@KaiFootikum 8 ай бұрын
Haha, AC condenser is dripping :D But overall, it is awesome to see how you were able to recover that while you got stuck. Most of the cases why we get stuck or not, sits between seat and the wheel!
@hippiebits2071
@hippiebits2071 Жыл бұрын
I can never pass up a review with "Offroad Disaster" in the title. Nice job on the recovery and another honest review.
@TinLeadHammer
@TinLeadHammer Жыл бұрын
Clickbait.
@IvanLitus
@IvanLitus Жыл бұрын
The ending was priceless 😂
@chemuzio-ssir2015
@chemuzio-ssir2015 Жыл бұрын
Great review!! I’ve been waiting for it. Looks like this isn’t meant to leave the pavement ever lol I’d like to see some on-road driving, including wet and snow conditions. Keep doing what you’re doing!! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
@bjsimon802
@bjsimon802 Жыл бұрын
Hybrid have low resistant tires, swap the tires and it will do much better.
@scottk1562
@scottk1562 7 ай бұрын
There is a setting available to enable tracking lines in the backup camera.
@Psicoanalisis-red
@Psicoanalisis-red 10 ай бұрын
I want to ask you something. Why did you use the Drive mode? The Toyota Corolla Cross transmission is a unique “Direct Shift” CVT automatic that, unlike the typical CVT, uses a physical first gear for quicker off-the-line starts. Wasnt a better option to use the Manual 1st gear to get off?
@Shervin601
@Shervin601 4 ай бұрын
I love the part that he says don’t you go backwards 😅
@pcdude2394
@pcdude2394 Жыл бұрын
I think you’ve just burned 5k calories making this video. 😂 But then again, this video makes me appreciate my Tacoma TRD off-road with craw control more than ever. Also tells me not to take my wife’s Honda HRV AWD to places like this.
@AndrewLavarda
@AndrewLavarda Жыл бұрын
All I can say is amazing recovery!
@lespecsman
@lespecsman 7 ай бұрын
The first words my grandson learnt to say was Subachew Closschek
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