A MUST VIEW. A MUST LISTEN. It should go without saying, but I’ll say it anyway: the lecture is BRILLIANT and I absolutely LOVE it. His lecture strikes resonant chords in my heart. As a young boy, I very fondly remember Gregorian chant and Renaissance polyphony, and particularly the singing of “per omnia sæcula sæculorum.” It’s very moving knowing what his words say is something I’ve always known by intuition and experience. And now as a priest, I get to sing per omnia sæcula sæculorum! God bless you abundantly, Dr. Kwasniewski.

47:52 is what happens at my parish here I. Sydney. All sorts of cultures together worshiping in Latin, as truly one.

Also Latin because of: 1. the Bishop of Rome, 2. the Roman Empire, 3. the Titilus ordered by Pilate, 4. the Coronation of Christ in the Praetorium, by the Roman Army, 5. the percentage of Catholics among those who speak the Roman(ce) Languages, 6. Orthodox Apostolic Tradtion, 7. the Spilled Blood of Saints Peter and Paul.

I have been listening to this for sleep and sometimes I repent because it's so good that I want to keep listening. But it certainly gives me peace and hope to meditate on this affirmations. Thanks to doctor K!

Thank you....that was amazing...and u left me with hope for the restoration of our church and our country ...Amen

Was a pleasure to have been present at this lecture. Thanks again, Dr. K!

I loved Latin Mass when I was young, before Vatican 2. The prayers I said in Latin were like adoring with the angels; I didn’t understand the language but I understood the prayers were from my soul not my mind.

Great lecture. It is clear that we have to go back to the TLM. Of course it will take time and extra efforts. We are waiting for the right pope and bureaucrats.

the church was ever growing when Latin was the language of the Mass. Now the church is seeing declines in pews.

AWESOME research+ putting the pieces of the puzzle together! He's THE best I ever heard. Btw., demons hate Latin; every exorcist I've heard attests to this. So Paul VI and Francis are NOT making the Holy Spirit smile, but they sure are giving smiles on the faces of the UN-holy spirits!

outstanding!

10:35 - To prove his point, when he said these words, I immediately made the sign of the Cross and had goosebumps all over my arm.

Lest we forget there wouldn't be a traditional Mass anywhere today but for the efforts of one Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of Saint Pius X.

I love the TLM and attend regularly. But one pet-peeve is that most TLM priests 'burn' through the prayers of the Mass. Why cannot the celebrant slow down as he's praying the Mass? In my opinion, thiswould allow the congregation time to better absorb the Latin language as well as allow the Holy Ghost to touch hearts.

Absolutely brilliant. Wow. And let’s pray his closing statement about the disappearance of the Novus Ordo happens within this generation!

This was Fantastic. I have shared it with many people. This is what I thought all along. It’s good to have someone with professional knowledge reinforce it and validate it thank you so much.

PHENOMENAL TALK!!! Fantastic!

WOW!

Thank you, Dr K.

Everything that Dr PK says is good but he is not saying that there is any reason to avoid learning Latin. I am sure he would believe that, if you have the time and inclination, it is good to learn Latin. His point is that it is not required to know it, to whatever degree, to attend the TLM fruitfully. If you are able to learn Latin, a bit or a lot, it will make your attendance at Mass even more enjoyable and more engaging than it would be otherwise.

Wonderful!! Highly recommend. Thank you Dr. K!

Even in a reverent Novus Ordo, one will still hear Hebrew and Greek, but usually not Latin. How tragic.

Thanks very much for this beautiful defence of Latim❤️ Dr.

I loved the dignified diction of the Episcopal Church's 1928 Prayer Book liturgy and it's associated musical expression. With the Vatican 2 - influenced 1979 Book of Common Prayer and the 1982 Hymnal, there has been a great loss of measured, beautiful worship and spirituality.

According to Paul in 1 Corinthians and according to Judaism, human comprehension of language used in the congregational setting is important.

An immutable truth or reality requires an immutable word or language.

Thank you for articulating my thoughts so wonderfully. I've always been drawn to the "mystical", "mysterious" part of the Traditional Catholic Church. The architecture, the decorations, the hymns, and of course the Latin, all come together to create this solemn, intense atmosphere that keeps drawing me closer to something so scared and so Holy far beyond my comprehension. It's common to think that the West is too intellectual, too logical to the point of leaving no room for any mystery compared to the East. (Laregy, I think it was due to the influence of Protestanism.). However, the existence of the Latin Mass shows that "mystery" is (or, in nowadays, should be) an integral part of the Church.

Latin holds our Faith with out slang creeping in to warp it. The necessary of multiple translations is subject to big problems of distortion, Latin was steady. When we listen to Peter Kwasniewski we learn that.

Thank you for such great information!

Excellent, exquisite lecture, poetry-like. Chapeau!

Dr PK is a wonderful speaker about Catholicism, and especially about the importance of every part of the TLM. He will always be welcome back to Australia where he visited some years ago :)

Thank you sir. Our MOTHER MARY will bless as her wonderful son. God bless you sir. Aman

Fr. Paul Schenk, Jewish convert, once pointed out in a lecture for the Institute of Catholic Culture, that the high priests of Our Lord's day and in the time following didn't speak or understand liturgical hebrew. I found it hard to avoid a comparison to our day (and the eschataligical implication).

This talk was wonderfully rigid 😂

Well, one thing I'm certain of is that if I were to hear the greatest tenor alive singing "Nessun Dorma" in English it would not have the same magic as the original. I may not know the Italian words, but I know what's in his heart!

don’t forget non verbal language as in the traditional Catholic liturgy can also speak volumes

Jesus spoke Aramaic, but He read Hebrew. At the Last Supper, the First Mass, He presided over the Seder service, in Hebrew.

I now have a better understanding of why Francis hates Latin.

The greatest and most solemn Mass of them all is sung in Latin: Bach’s B Minor. Enough said.

“The language of the Church is prayer”. John Cardinal Wright

Faith comes by hearing

"[B]UT the purpose of the Prayer is not human comprehension..." Therein lies one of a few foundational problems. For many churches and their congregations, that is precisely what prayer is for. After all, they imagine, modern people can't be so naive as to think that an omnipotent and omniscient being (Who already knows what we need or want) needs or cares about human words. For some other churchmen and their congregations, I suspect, another problem is that God doesn't actually exist, so of course prayer is about human comprehension because... what else would it be about?!

The students I taught at an American Orthodox Jewish Boys' Yeshiva, spoke English on the street, Uzbek or Russian at home, Yiddish with each others in school and Hebrew in class with the Rabbis. I taught History in English. They studied the Jewish Religion from 9 to 3. Then English, History, Math and Science from 3 to 6:30. In my own Parochial School we studied the Catholic Religion one hour a day. This is so sad.

"Even though we don't need to condemn it either" pretty much sums it up.

Why do you go to the Latin Mass? Do you understand Latin? I don't need to! God understands Latin!

The more Inclusive, the Less the interest. The more Exclusive, the Greater the interest. Ask the Marines, (until they went Woke)!

The mundane language inside is the reason the novus ordo religion is worldly.

@50:00 I went to the TLM in that chapel in Krakow as well…but it was a few years ago and the entire Mass was in Latin. Priests must have the faith and courage to disobey the idiotic diktats of Traditionis Custodes. The idea that the epistle and gospel are some sort of Bible lesson is a big mistakes. They are included in the Mass as meditative prayers, just like the psalms of the propers.

I’ll be honest I am a Protestant that primarily listens to baroque music. I sing both in Latin, English and German. I however have never felt emotional over a Latin song even when I understand the words. The songs in German and English however can move me to tears even tho I do not speak German well enough to have an actual conversation in it.

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My brother says he doesn't get the connection between the (Novus Ordo) Mass and the Sacrifice on Calvary.

It is Latin or TLM, because God wanted it Holy andbTrue, as He is God of His ancient people too or ' INRI ' this is His own Church, as He wanted to His own holy People. As He says, too; ' return to your true and first love you had before '. So this is what He so love to be with us all, that's what we must listen to His call.

AVAILABLE? Is an .mp3 or CD available for the Fr. William Most classic, "Latin by the Natural Method Vol. 1 & 2"?

People should be able to understand what they are praying.

To the issue of learning Latin, does anyone have any advice, especially as to resources? Is the late Fr. Reginald Foster’s (is that his name?) stuff any good, for example?

The liturgy in Rome was changed from Greek to Latin because most romans didn’t understand Greek and Latin was the vernacular. The Orthodox Church has always done its liturgies in the vernacular. It’s one of the most ancient traditions of the church

We’ve been robbed!

With translations. Most people live in muticultural multi language societies. Immigration and education often require the learning of new languages. The Roman world was like that. Latin is easy to understand for those that speak French, Spanish, Italian. Languages that are Latin based. It's not difficult to understand Mass if people use books that have the vernacular and Latin. Learning things off by heart is not difficult. The readings are read out in the vernacular. It has to be said the problem with the New Mass is that it is not thd traditional Mass in the vernacular. If the traditional liturgy was in the vernacular it would be far superior yo the novus ordo. I cannot see why the Council document on the liturgy which suggested Latin and Greek be kept in the parts of the Mass that were the same always. The truth is the Latin of the liturgyis sacral Latin. It was never street Latin and the translations should reflect it. Using Latin has the advantage that we can all attend Mass worldwide and know where we are. I've been to Mass in Germany in the Nrw Mass and did not grasp any of it. It was awkward. However wehen I went to the traditional Mass in the UK, France snd Germany I felt at home and understood it.

Acts 2:8 “And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?”

(A thought about the remark at 11:50) Latin itself is a vernacular in relation to the Hebrew and Greek of the sacred texts. The Lord’s Prayer comes from the Greek New Testament manuscripts, and the Latin changes it slightly. The Nicene creed itself was a Greek text. The Latins modified it in an even greater way that helped pave the way for schism with the East. Latin is not the language of God, nor is it the superior tongue. It is just the language of the Church of Rome. Even the Latin used by the church is not the same Latin used by the Romans, as the pronunciation has been distorted by the influence of Italian vernacular. With that being said, there is still a great beauty with Latin liturgy just as there is with the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrystosomos.

You can call out the mistakes. Anyone one else priests bishops cardinals would be sacked by Pope Fransis. With God on your side you will win and church doctrine returned to where it should be.

I get that there is no inherent virtue in the use of vulgar tongues in worship, by why Latin? Why not Greek, the language of the Scriptures and of the Fathers and, indeed, the liturgical language of the Roman Church for the first few centuries? Why break from this more ancient tradition? It would seem right and proper to worship in the language handed down to in the writings of the Apostles themselves and in which the life of Christ has been reveled to us.

Its not the latin of imperial Rome,the Roman emperors spoke Greek hence the Greek gospel's. On the day of Pentecost, Peter spoke in his own vernacular toungue,the jews heard his message and we're puzzled that he spoke in Galilean, they heard it in the respective areas outside of Israel.

I have some commentary. Many commentaries. I will divide them in this thread

If the words are not understood how can one suplicate, plead for forgiveness, hear the wisdom conveyed in the set prayers, are you literally promoting babbling un-understood words in the belief that the utterances have a metaphysical Spiritual Supernatural value. I know from experiencing the NO mass in different languages I must translate it, or enter into the foriegn language by learning it inorder to partake more fully The words in my native language for Father Lord or King are not Pater, Dominius or Rex. These words do not have an instant spark of recognition in the intellect, or spirit. The words of ones Native language is entwined in the heart. When I became fluent in another language speaking it seamlessly from a interior space of emotion & thought without conscious translation could I say the Our Father with meaning & reverence. Even so Father Mother Brother always touch a deep experiential meaning when spoken in my native tongue.

I'm confused...did Jesus speak Latin? Maybe if mass was performed in Aramaic...whatever atmosphere is being created, what would Jesus want in memory of Him...

geez!

I live in a diocese with lots of Hispanics. Sometimes masses are bilingual. Especially at the cathedral. When I attend one of these masses half the time I dont understand what is being said. So much for the venacular 😂.

God knows your heart and understands all languages. This is very lengthy explanation for an unessessary practice. Why do catholics insist on taking something so simple and beautiful and over complicating it to an extreme with so much man indused traditions and rituals?

EWTN had said the Latin Mass was heard all over the World for a very longtime because every Country that had a Catholic Church was able to understand the Mass. They printed the Mass and everyone all over the World could buy a copy of the Mass and follow the Mass. You are right They Could erase the Mass. So far they have managed to do that.

I think Catholics should learn Latin so if & when Mass is said in Latin we know exactly what's going on and appreciate it , rather than being dumb founded what took place what was said just going through the motions!!😮

I have to disagree if you don't understand it then you don't know what you're doing and you're not actually praying if you don't understand what you're praying are you really praying?

It should be Aramaic. The language Jesus Christ spoke. Secondly, Greek since many of the apostles wrote in Greek.

Why not Greek?

Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

"Eludes hasty comprehension" yeah we don't want people to understand the gospel while we are speaking it, they have plenty of time to be saved 😑

IF IN LATIN, HOW COULD THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT , IF THEY DONOT SPEAK IT.

Why not move the language to Sanskrit? It is even more incomprehensible to most people than Latin is. Except to ne, of course. Besides, it really sounds serious and divine!

Well, so much then for the Parthians and Medes and Elamites, Phrygians and Pamphylian, Egyptians, Libians and Cyrenina (and English, German, French, etc, as well) who "heard" the Gospel proclaimed "in their own language" (Acts 2) - when the Holy Spirit was poured out on all men......why is it then the writer of sacred scripture then did not mention Latin? "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing is through the Word of Christ", St Paul tells us (Rm 10:17) - but he didn't specifically state "but only in Latin". The precepts of God, provided through scripture, are far superlative to the precepts of man - whether or not they hold a Ph.D. Jesus tells us true worship is that which is done in spirit and truth. Hearts do not speak Latin - or any other language - and God has no ears - hence he prefers the worship accomplished in spirit vs words of the human tongue, does he not "a contrite heart" He prefers to anything else...

Does not make sense. Tongues in its most beautiful form is often described as the language of Angels (confirmed by 200 million Catholic Charismatics worldwide) in worship of God so shouldn't it be used in liturgical worship? Wouldn't it raise the Mass to its rightful heavenly realm if it were to be commonly used in Mass. In this aspect, Latin and in fact any humanly created language falls completely short. In fact I find nowhere in the Latin Bible that says that tongues cannot be used for liturgical worship. I would even argue that the Apostles and Church Fathers worshipped exclusively in tongues and some common language at that time, could be a local one. (Before the church became Romanized) He is right to say that tongues is used in all faucets of religious life and not just limited to evangelising. (That's what St Paul thinks) He mentions Hebrew and Greek and some form of archaic english, alluding that these are fitting for liturgical worship because of their long time usage and being a prestige language. In that case I suggest using Chinese or Indian languages rather than Latin (definitely not English which is highly imperialist). Since after all, the participants and even celebrant need not understand the words of liturgical worship which he seems to be saying. In that case, we need a new and far more universal language for liturgical worship. We need it now so that in a thousand years it will become as ancient and a proper unchanging language just as was Latin. Latin in fact evokes memories of church abuse and nepotism (dark ages) for as long as it had been used exclusively in church liturgy and definitely of Roman imperialism. Latin just seems to me to be a cover up of sorts. In church Holy, out of church does not matter because "We got the Latin." I really wished that this man gave this talk entirely in Latin, then he would have made his point. I love the Novis Ordo and so does 99% of the Catholic church (you can actually love both at the same time) because it helps me comprehend liturgy, as liturgy should be understood fully for it to be meaningful. Which the church magisterium understands fully. Liturgy is meant to be understood by Man and not just by God.. God does not need lLatin to understand liturgical worship. Let us also not assume falsely that a language is inferior just because of bad translation. Is Latin was a good translation? Perhaps so but am sure its not the only one. Ask any Sunday Catholic who does not understand Latin what they were doing during Latin Mass. I bet they would say that they "switched off", maybe they would be doing all sorts of devotions like praying the Rosary. All the time Mass was going on in Latin. Personally the most sacred language for me is the one that is not just used in church but for every moment of my life and every breath I take should give highest worship to God. Holiness cannot be limited to just being in church but must extend to all of me. We must let the life of the church out, christifying the whole world. Which Latin had once served its purpose very well in those days but no longer now. Latin is an important heritage. But the solution is not to revert to Latin but use the Novis Ordo properly, which is simply with proper reverence and in the correct disposition. There is no disconnect at all. The real enemy of the church is secularism and relativism and not the lack of Latin masss. I would argue that without the Novis Ordo, the decline of Catholicism in Europe would be more severe and its introduction and enforcement, helped stem the tide though not fully. Because this new generation had been taught by secular teachers that the church is archaic and irrelevant. Adding to the fact where sometimes, those who practice and preach Catholicism fall short of its high and immutable standards (don't we all, even unbelievers? That where they start to miss the point) And with the advent of modern science especially in biotech and AI, most are falsely led to believe that the church is obsolete or worst, just a cult. Is science the enemy then? Nope, it's those who propagate their own agenda using the influence of science. It's like, heterosexuals will never think: "we need more heterosexuality in this world". Why? Because that is what God created us to be. This view needs to be actively defended especially at the scientific level and not let it seep unchecked into our culture, unconsciously. God created Man, both male and female. Take God out of the equation and what do we get? So there seems to be a real motivation for 'taking out' God. One question remains: "Are we motivated to put God in?" The fact is that Latin was the universal language during that time, similar to English today. This explains why Latin was used and not Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic. In fact the Church is absolutely right to propagate the use of the Novis Ordo simply because the mission of the church hasn't changed, which is her missionary and evangelical zeal. Just my 2 cents worth and I don't have a PHD. (No pun intended) Ps. I think that the Pope is the most Catholic person I have ever known. A man who embodies this sacred tradition and Christ personified, having the absolute love for his flock, Someone that everyone should follow, even non Catholics as St Pauls said, "imitate me as I imitate Christ". Once we start to see this beautiful religion through Francis's eyes, I can assure you that you would gain so much more. And to take it one step further(I know its hard), but let us try to see this man through the eyes of God and not through our own. (Be unbiased)

Like it or not, Latin has been abandoned by the church and the clergy. It is practically impossible to go back to the Latin Mass on a widespread basis. The Council endorsed both a Latin Mass and one that featured the vernacular.

If Vatican II, is true, and I would suffer martyrdom to uphold this truth, this talk may be verging on the heretical. Heretics persist in error despite ecumenical council saying otherwise.

If this speech is so true why is it in english.... I just can't see the holiness of it without that Latin twang.

The thing of it is, the Bible speaks against mans tradition, you're trying to cobat that with books and the writings of "saints" that were not books of the Bible but only their opinions from obviously haveing poor Bible knowledge or purposefully trying to mislead. Maybe you finally got a pope you should listen to...

Jesus told the apostles after his resurrection that they would go to all nations and n preach His gospel.....and the whole World does not speak Latin but many languages. It is OK for the institutional church to speak Latin but is not necessary, it is narrow minded. The Jews are realistic people, God is realistic, the bad thing about being romantic is sentiments and idealism and God is realistic. So, I am sorry but you are wrong. In the Old testament God says that He doesn't think like us!

The right language for the Gospel of Christ? is the language that the people understand, who are listening. ‘The goal is not human comprehension’ of the Gospel?? Are you mad? This is why you forced the Reformation. This is recidivism and nonsense. Latin should be retained in the Extraordinary Form, and taught to the faithful and in seminaries as the history of the (Western only) Church. Bug to pretend we should go back to Latin? is small-minded and will assure the loss of countless souls to other denominations and traditions.

Nonsense

This is unfortunately why the Catholic TLM is useless for the blind and deaf. In fact most disabled persons find Catholicism unaccommodating for worship.

Cobblers. Times have changed - 50 years ago! Deal with it, stop trying to hide in a hole.