Drop-in Solution Converts Any Battery to Solid-State

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Startup Natrion developed a drop-in solution to convert any battery to solid-state. It uses existing equipment in existing battery plants, no changes needed. 50% higher energy density, faster charging time, not affected much by cold weather. Alex Kosyakov, co-founder & CEO, provides all the details of this 2024 GAMIC 1st place winner.
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@WentzCraft Ай бұрын

In a totally unrelated note, I suddenly feel very old and unsuccessful.

@omniphoriusvcf907 Ай бұрын

LOL ditto

@anydaynow01 Ай бұрын

I'm an engineering analyst in what I thought was a challenging field and I suddenly feel the same way!

@ArthurZakaryan23 Ай бұрын

Lol, tell me about it. I can't help though being really happy though too when I see super smart "kids" or "young people", a humble, mild mannered one like Alex seems to be no less, who are doing great, possibly industry changing things and hoping for their success. The new dad in me I think is just hoping for their kids to one day do great things when I hear stories like this.

@rp9674 Ай бұрын

I feel like these GD kids should get off my lawn

@ChuckSilva Ай бұрын

Haha needed that about now-thanks!

@arlenbell4376 Ай бұрын

Would like to see follow up on this and when batteries with this product are actually in production and being road tested.

@louiec.9782 Ай бұрын

Give 10 more years. Then after that 10 more.

@MarlinMay Ай бұрын

@@louiec.9782 #1 of Clarke's 3 Laws: "When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws

@jamesvandamme7786 Ай бұрын

@@louiec.9782 2027, he hopes. Unless they find a gotcha.

@PraiseYAyoupeople Ай бұрын

sounds good on paper, now lets see the working product being independently tested, until then don't get excited.

@louiec.9782 Ай бұрын

Give it 10 more years, then after that 10 more and they should have a working sample for testing.

@wt9653 Ай бұрын

Every major industry has been working on the solid state battery technology for the last 10 years or more. Here comes an unheard of person says we did it. 😂

@EverydayRoadster Ай бұрын

@@wt9653but he is not screaming out about it like the others did. Being laid back like him means he knows things.

@YSKWatch Ай бұрын

if it's really good, probably the big 3 or Japanese car makers already invested?

@wt9653 Ай бұрын

@@EverydayRoadster Laid-back scammer

@ArthurZakaryan23 Ай бұрын

Thanks John for bringing on Alex and sharing this with us. True innovation especially at sort of a grassroots level is increasingly rare so to hear Alex's story, it's definitely one to watch and I wish him and his company a lot of luck, the product sounds very promising if it can achieve all they've set out for it.

@JT_771 Ай бұрын

Interesting in theory. Hopefully 'in practice' keeps up.

@locofurioso Ай бұрын

I keep telling all my motorhead friends that battery technology currently is like the model T was 100 years ago. Eventually we will have electrical vehicles that would only need a weekly charge and run >1000 miles

@andders2477 Ай бұрын

1000 km will happen but its more about getting better charge net. For many people they can already run a week on 1 charge.

@3089280288 Ай бұрын

Not heavy vehicles

@ultrastoat3298 Ай бұрын

You are just demonstrating your science illiteracy in physics. All of these “battery breakthrough” people have been charlatans. Every single one, including this guy.

@MaticTheProto Ай бұрын

who needs 1000 mile range?

@jamesvandamme7786 Ай бұрын

@@MaticTheProto The naysayers who tow uphill both ways.

@lisizecha9759 Ай бұрын

50 year old, somewhat burned-out engineer trapped in the body of a pre-teen with a stuffy nose

@kgamaseg Ай бұрын

AWESOME news for battery manufacturers and investors.

@mjanich8 Ай бұрын

Sounds a bit like too good to be true. I hope I’m wrong!

@robertpahmer763 Ай бұрын

Great entrepreneurial spirit....go science!

@Hybridog Ай бұрын

He described the LISIC as drop in, where the manufacturer doesn't change anything else. The Natrion website describes LISIC as "liquid-free" so does that mean there is no flammable electrolyte? That would be fantastic. This is exactly the kind of incremental development I have been expecting for battery tech. The "answer" is not going to be one company creating the ultimate battery alone, but rather many companies creating a variety of improvements that will evenutally combine and settle into a sometwhat industry standard for battery tech and chem. As John said this is a company to keep an eye on.

@concinnus Ай бұрын

Solid State = no liquid/gel electrolyte

@markjmaxwell9819 Ай бұрын

The goal is a 0-100% charge in 15 minutes with better energy density and safety. With battery packs that are temperature optimised by using fluid to keep the battery temperature within a certain range means the cold weather performance doesn't degrade as much as expected thankfully. I didn't see this one coming a drop in solution is pretty mind blowing stuff from a manufacturing point of view if the product lives up to the claims. EV technology from the first Nissan Leaf to the latest Tesla Model 3 is progressing at an astonishing pace compared to ICE technology with the first DOHC engine built over a hundred years ago. A fantastic invention even if only from a safety perspective. 😎🇦🇺👍

@frankcoffey Ай бұрын

I hope we look back at this video someday and think, that's where it started.

@anydaynow01 Ай бұрын

Agreed! Regular folks don't realize tech is really just death by a thousand blows. Edison wasn't a genius in so much that he was the speaker box for all the geniuses that worked for him. Love him or hate him Musk is the Edison of our time, pulling humanity tooth and claw out of being sedentary and into the future.

@phillyphil1513 Ай бұрын

speaking of "Edison", what this represents is the equivalent of Beth Holmes/Theranos "Edison Machine". she has now been rightly convicted of fraud.

@jacksouthern7929 Ай бұрын

Could be a game changer to EV’s if. It works!

@andymurchison5719 Ай бұрын

Creating a consistent and robust interface because the solid electrolyte and the anodes in a production line that produces a 100,000 cells a day is the difficulty. Much easier to do with a liquid electrolyte. Let's hope these guys have the secret sauce!

@relax-ie3mp Ай бұрын

Good introduction interview.

@thedownwardmachine Ай бұрын

I'm cautiously optimistic. I hear lots of battery breakthrough announcements and years later the needle has hardly moved. I hope this is as good as it sounds.

@Gadfly2025 Ай бұрын

Will they put these batteries 🔋 in cell phones ? Will they last 3 days and charge in 5 min ?

@AD-se7ty Ай бұрын

Great story. I’m glad he asked about durability as I would like to see the test results on how does it handle heat cycles, vibration, actual discharge performance vs liquid, and if the material overall over time. I get it. Putting companies down is fun but this is an American team trying to be innovative and make better technologies. If they fail, they fail but someone else can take the ideas and expand. But if they succeed, this is a game changer as charging time is one of the reasons why folks don’t like EVs.

@copaloadofthis Ай бұрын

Batteries are surely not “75% the cost of the vehicle “ ??

@rp9674 Ай бұрын

74%

@jamesvandamme7786 Ай бұрын

They were once. Times have changed.

@rp9674 Ай бұрын

Times do be changing

@nelsongilbert1695 Ай бұрын

Congratulations Alex and Natrion, wishing you success. Thanks John/Autoline for posting.

@urbanstrencan Ай бұрын

What an interesting technology, future is here 😊

@joeybagadonuts1206 Ай бұрын

When they don't admit / explain either "why is no one using this" or "what are the drawbacks"...then this is yet another lab-scale technology that has maybe 5% chance of being commercialized.

@electric-rideshare Ай бұрын

I see Mark Cuban and LG working with Natrion so while that doesn't guarantee anything. It's certainly peeks my interest a bit more

@joejuan5022 Ай бұрын

cillian murphy making batteries now instead of nuclear bomb ✌️

@peteregan3862 Ай бұрын

As Elon says, prototypes are easy, production at scale hard. This could be good case for contract manufacturing if working capital available. The product is rolls material. A B2B product.

@tommihelich2613 Ай бұрын

“Expected due date is 2027”. Just like everyone else: Toyota, Nissan, Solid Power, etc. we shall see.

@forgotten_world Ай бұрын

Such an amazing development.

@toddw3nzel639 Ай бұрын

Keyword is once we can scale.

@Derpy1969 Ай бұрын

Another miracle that may never come.

@victorsvoice7978 Ай бұрын

As long as science continues to develop new battery technology. The future will be better.

@EagleClaw_777 Ай бұрын

What a jule of a video! This guy's going places!

@deltajohnny Ай бұрын

It sounds great! 👏👏👏 let's see how it goes 😁😁

@petersz98 Ай бұрын

Sounds too good to be true! He is just a kid

@boost331 Ай бұрын

The catch being polymer isnt always a solid. Under even moderate heat polymer becomes liquid. So I would call this concept solid"ish" state.

@StephCno1961 Ай бұрын

6:10 - The two assertions that follow (charging speed and cost) make me very skeptic. 1.When you gain energy density, you always lose in power density. 2. The battery pack cost is way lower than 80% of the EV cost. Auttoline Network is very faulty in not telling to Alex Kosikov : "please say again, who is going to believe what you just said ?".

@hermanmunster8655 Ай бұрын

Incredible 😮❤🔥💯👏🏽

@jamesvandamme7786 Ай бұрын

Which is next to non-credible.

@rp9674 Ай бұрын

True to be good

@roxter299roxter7 Ай бұрын

Seems to good to be true.

@davidmccarthy6061 Ай бұрын

Let's see if it makes it to market at scale but sounds like snake oil at first glance. 100's of battery breakthroughs that never leave the lab.

@user-rt9th4lz7z Ай бұрын

I'll believe it when I see it in actual cars.

@kamilb8232 Ай бұрын

I really hope this is the real deal. I'm skeptical but hopeful.

@mowensmd Ай бұрын

Batteries are NOT 75% of the cost of the vehicle. Solid state...is all hype. John has no idea what questions to ask.

@petersimms4982 Ай бұрын

This guys the new musk 😮😊

@wonderplanet343 12 күн бұрын

Red flag : he said batteries are 75% of car cost. Not true. It differs and is lowering. So what else is wrong?

@prilep5 Ай бұрын

So this is a battery capacity booster

@nickayivor8432 Ай бұрын

👍

@andders2477 Ай бұрын

Sounds like the silver bullet all other have been looking for, almost to good to be true?

@ChicagoBob123 Ай бұрын

Rivian should be your customer

@petersimms4982 Ай бұрын

Tesla aircraft? Sooooo long Boeing & airbus 😮

@dananderson3938 Ай бұрын

That was like pulling teeth

@TonyBasuro Ай бұрын

Got any for golf carts?

@user-tx9zg5mz5p Ай бұрын

Snake oil😂

@johannel8104 Ай бұрын

Here we go again. Battery-breakthrough-dujour of the day. When something sounds too good to be true. If I would have to guess, they can fake it enough to make samples but the process is not scalable which means cost won't come down. Or they are using expensive materials which will make this a no go. Somewhere they are hiding some critical info about the viability. As much as I would still hope for this to be true, I have seen these lab 'breakthroughs' too often and they never go anywhere. Changing your electrolyte also doesn't mean an energy density increase. It mostly affect longevity as far as I know. And a SS battery is supposed to negate cold weather issues from liquid electrolytes freezing as well as faster charging. Not energy density or lifecycle increases. Too much here that doesn't rhyme for me.

@Brutus4048 Ай бұрын

If that is not a scam then WOOOOW **

@KD-my6lo Ай бұрын

This boy is joking 😂😂😂

@potencjalnypracownik2966 Ай бұрын

scam radar picking up

@wt9653 Ай бұрын

Very believable story but a scam.

@billsrelectric Ай бұрын

Natrion named 2024 Edison Award Gold Winner, hits 430+ Wh/kg milestone. They received the award at the April 18th Awards Gala in Fort Myers, Florida, alongside some of the most prestigious and accomplished innovators. (They may not hit their promises, but right now others in the industry are giving them some cred)

@wt9653 Ай бұрын

@@billsrelectric You heard of Theranos. The promise of a blood test to diagnose any disease. Many scientists were fooled. Even Obama fell for it. Don't believe anything you hear.

@wt9653 Ай бұрын

@@billsrelectric You heard of Theranos? She fooled many scientists and Obama.

@soundworks52 Ай бұрын

@@billsrelectric how do the electrons pass cathode to anode and back when re-purposing a battery using liquid electrolyte to solid electrolyte. If this is everything he claims he should have manufacturers beating his door down and not engaging with the motoring press while negotiating licensing or acquisition of their process/technology. I remember a few years ago that John had a guy on pushing plasma ignition for ICE cars and that went nowhere in the meantime either.