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@parkerazz43852 ай бұрын
Now that's a solution that makes way more sense
@Zer01neBDTDev Жыл бұрын
They should have designed a VaporChamber.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Maybe in V2! Edit: I meant steam deck v2**
@ShaneMiltonProductions Жыл бұрын
I wold put thermal past on the apu then add on the copper shim then thermal past on that then put the block on, you need the thermal past directly on the apu to fill in air gaps and temps will be better.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
I have since repasted it with ptm and layering proper shims I got. Honestly... temps were not different much if at all from this video. I have been waiting to make another thermal video. However a new company with a steam deck thermal mod has reached out today actually. They will be sending over their kit for me to play with :) looks pretty promising, albeit a little "backyard shed" looking. But I'm all for it haha. Edit: when repasting I layered .1mm copper shim, ptm,shim etc. I believe the total thickness including ptm was .6mm It is making the best possible contact it can, I'm certain of it. However I bought my wife a used steam deck, so I can at least have a new "baseline" to compare it to. I know it "should" be the same model/device with all testing however for the sake of time alone I believe it will be better to have a complete "control unit" The only thing we've done to hers is put the RGB jsaux backplate on. But I will switch back to stock for all testing.
@a51059211 ай бұрын
I really want to see more content on this, hoping the wave 2 will be good. I also pre-ordered it, so we'll see what this new bracket is about for making that even pressure. They were talking about the design some on discord.
@WinDeckTech11 ай бұрын
I saw the new design redesign. I have the wave 2 on order. There will be an upcoming video with three steam decks. My modded deck with the monoblock and without. Then using a new cooler called Cooler deck. It is a copper plate with proper mounts thought out, then an attachable fan. It is ridiculous but I love it Basically steam deck 1 will be bone stock (to never be modded) Steam deck 2 (my wife's) Temps will be recorded from her currently stock one. Then changing her paste to PTM. Seeing as my modded deck is in a different case and has had its thermal paste changed multiple times it's "default state" is compromised. At the end of it we should know which option is best, in conjunction with changing to ptm from stock the other factors would be the RGB Backplate from JSAUX, the old style with exposed heatsink (with and without the magnetic fan) monoblock and cooler deck. It should make for a fun video As well I have perfected the mount (to the best that I can) on my monoblock since this video.
@a51059211 ай бұрын
@@WinDeckTech 😲 Oh man I am excited to see that video!
@a5105927 ай бұрын
My wave 2 monoblock just shipped! Did you happen to get yours yet? Excited for the revisit!
@a510592Ай бұрын
I did get mine a while back! Still waiting for the videos to come out doesn't seem like a lot of people got one :/
@WinDeckTechАй бұрын
Yeah I'm going to do a general comparison of the two now that I've done other testing with the precious First gen is still garbage and could not really get good temps with it.
@Darkstartsb Жыл бұрын
Get a small drill bit and slowly drill off the head. Then take the part off and use pliers to screw it off
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
right now it looks like a bowl, there's barely any head left to it haha. I will try some small pliers before I break out the drill. If the super glue that didn't get cleaned up hasn't fused itself to anything.
@Darkstartsb Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech honestly that probably won’t work. All u need to do it take the head off and that’s it. If not try a rubber band with some pressure of the screw driver or try a T tip and see if that works
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@Darkstartsb will do!
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
This is how I got it out!
@joeycooper93 Жыл бұрын
They have screw extractors that should be able to remove your stripped screw. there is the possibility that you might need to drill out the screw head, remove the monoblock, then use a pair of needle nose pliers to remove the damaged screw. Not too hard either way, but can be nerve-wracking.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah big time. I've put it on the back burner for now. Until I get the new parts, ptm etc. Then I'll do it all again for the v2 of the monoblock. I am expecting better results with proper parts.
@joeycooper93 Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech I am really curious on every upgrade to the steamdeck, still waiting for an OLED upgrade (even though I am not confident that it will be possible). I am probably going to use mine as a way to play around and get the ultimate build at some point. Keep up the good work! I've enjoyed all of your videos!
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
I'm going ultimate with the DeckHD screen, a new case v2 cooling etc. Figure my screen is dead may as well wait for that one. Only thing is you need to load custom bios to use it. They are apparently in talks w/ valve for custom resolutions but for now that's the solution.
@joeycooper93 Жыл бұрын
@WinDeckTech I'm still waiting for an official steam deck os for other handhelds. I've got my A1 that I would love to see run it. Otherwise I'll be starting a steam deck build this winter I think. It'll be a great way to pass the time! Hopefully an unlocked bios comes out soon.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@joeycooper93 god I hope so. I just ordered the gpd max 2. It would be killer to get steam os proper on there.
@Blind-Matter Жыл бұрын
Interesting vid. Congrats on the 3k :). For the screw, you could try super glue or a tiny blob of epoxy attached to the bit (one you don't need as it may weld it to the bit) then leave it in the stripped screw head to dry. then it should screw out.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I did try super glue, however it just did not want to bond to the metal. I will try a bit of epoxy without hopefully messing anything up too bad. I do really want to revisit this when I get "proper" shims in from Ali express. Especially once their V2 cooler comes out. Thanks for the tip and comment :)
@Blind-Matter Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech Sometimes the super glue is just not that strong of a bond for metals. Hopefully you manage to get it out but keep us all updated :). That sounds like a good vid to come, I'm always interested in custom cooling/tweaks for my devices.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@Blind-Matter once I get the new parts I'll do an updated version. I'm hoping to be able to get an excellent mount with this. I found the thermal paste they supplied was pretty dried out as well. I only used it on the vrm chips etc. I used my Corsair xtm70 for the actual APU. Definitely stay tuned!
@iyeetsecurity9229 ай бұрын
I don't think the Deck actually needs more cooling. The only extra cooling I do is having the dock sit on a "cooling pad" aka a monitor riser I installed 2 180mm AC Infinity usb powered fans so that it has cooler air to pull in and the hot air gets pushed away from the area.
@matthewhaworth5935 Жыл бұрын
Not getting a proper mount totally defeats the purpose of this product. I have a pre-order in for wave 2, hopefully they have it figured out for that batch. If it comes in and requires shims or any nonsense like that I'm immediately sending it back for refund, because like I said, if the block doesn't get a proper mount and proper pressure, it doesn't matter how good it is at moving heat because you still have a massive bottleneck at your transfer point. With a proper mount, there is no way it wouldn't perform better than the stock solution. It's simple physics.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
I have since repasted it with proper .1mm shims, layering ptm,shim,ptm etc for a total of .7mm thickness on-top of the APU. This would ensure the BEST possible fit. Temperatures were no different than the video shown here. I will be revisiting it with the jsaux RGB back plate, comparing my monoblock to a stock deck then jsaux old backplate and jsaux new backplate.
@matthewhaworth5935 Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech the best possible fit would be with no shims at all and the block should be machined properly to fit. The least efficient part of a thermal solution like this are the transfer points, paste etc. Adding a shim and multiple layers of TIM for what should be a single contact point immediately is going to drop performance. I hope it's correct for wave 2.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Sorry I meant best possible fit relative to it being a wonky fit from the start. They are apparently adding more material in V2. I do have mine on order still. So I will be waiting for that to draw final conclusions. @@matthewhaworth5935
@matthewhaworth5935 Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech also I'm not saying you did anything wrong, you tested the product as you have it. I'm saying the product is clearly flawed for needing this sort of work around to make it work and completely defeats the purpose. Like why build a high performance thermal solution and then need to stack shims and TIM to make it fit right? It makes no sense.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@matthewhaworth5935 I didn't take it that way, no worries! And yeah, like you said it shouldn't be this way. Especially for a paid for product (if it was an early sample I'd understand) TMK this unit was used for internal testing as they had posted it up for sale long after the wave 1 sales has closed. You'd think that would mean this is a high performer, unfortunately that is not the case. If you're curious take a look at the deck cooler by nupp engineering nupp.eu/collections/all They reached out a couple days ago and will be sending me a unit for testing. 30w OC potential, allegedly. It is absolutely ridiculous and no sane person would do it to their deck. But I will... lol
@AsimovBR Жыл бұрын
Man, GabeN worked really well on Steam Deck build. Also congratz for the channel! High quality stuff!!!
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Appreciate you saying it's "high quality" haha. I'm always my biggest critic. It really validates what I do when reminded though from others :)
@squiddymute10 ай бұрын
use a dremel with a sanding disk to carefully cut a groove on the screw and then unscrew it with a flat tip screwdriver
@WinDeckTech10 ай бұрын
I was able to get it out with a drill thankfully. I am waiting for the DECKHD screen to start moding the deck again.
@233kosta9 ай бұрын
The one reason I tend to shy away from mods like this (and tbh don't feel particularly positive about doing up the thermal grease either) is because the whole thing is cooled by that ONE fan. Valve inginerded the crap out of this thing, to the point where messing with their thermal design at all starts to put other components at risk. VRMs, memory, hell, even the charge controller... they ALL rely on secondary flows from that fan. Reduce those - everything else runs hot. Not worth it. If you do this, do it properly and make sure you're cooling all the other bits too.
@WinDeckTech9 ай бұрын
I will have the v2 of this coming as well as another cool mod. Definitely in the realm of would not recommend but still fun to tinker with nonetheless!
@CuriousTinkering11 ай бұрын
Looking forweard to a battery mod and matching backcase
@WinDeckTech11 ай бұрын
I'm going to aim for the full size m.2 mod
@SaveTheSunF1R3xАй бұрын
3min of ads? what the hell.
@wowwowdoggosnorlaxaxolotl2559 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think in gonna do it just for the heck of it
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Why not! V2 is supposed to be shipping q3-q4 I believe. I'll definitely have more content lined up with this. If you like to tinker, why not. I'm just hoping v2 makes some serious improvements to fitment and even pressure.
@wowwowdoggosnorlaxaxolotl2559 Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech yeah I read their website looks like they’re improving it with denser fins and a thicker piece of copper look pretty dope can’t wait to see how it will perform
@a510592 Жыл бұрын
Well fugggg, I just put in an order for the 2nd wave. Sucks that it doesn't cool down the deck as much as claimed or really at all.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
I just refitted it with proper shims and ptm 7950. Pretty much the same temps. Stacked .4mm worth of copper layered with ptm Don't think I could have any better contact than I do. Even with the jsaux metal plate back on its really not that worth it. It does take a lot longer to get heat soaked, so in the instances of lighter games or in bursty loading or streaming moments the fan speed will be lower. The thermal capacity also allows for more room with overclocking. I'll be making more videos on it :) I still have my v2 ordered in the hopes that they will improve it. They seem very open and responsive to the community.
@SacKingJOSER9167 ай бұрын
Puppies 😍😍😍 🐕🐶🐾🐾🐾
@cybee896 ай бұрын
We need something for steam deck oled
@harveybrooks14608 ай бұрын
I have a steam deck I got about a week ago. is it okay to game in 80c range for couple of hours? ark survival evolved hits 80c most of the time which kind of scares me lol my other games like 7 days to die only hits about 70c so I am not so afraid of that. obviously ark is not very well optimized at all for thermals. I tried to lower tdp and gpu and a mixture of settings and doesn't really help at all for certain games. so is 80c okay for steam deck?
@WinDeckTech8 ай бұрын
80 degrees is not bad and within spec. If you wanted to try undervolting with the new BIOS or turning on the older more aggressive fan profile. That could potentially help as well. But, you can run it at 80 degrees all day every day and it shouldn't ever run into an issue, theoretically.
@yaboiskinnymalone8368 ай бұрын
They can handle the 80c fine, if it starts getting over 90-95 it’ll be a problem, and will automatically shut down once it hits 100c
@Duckers_McQuack10 ай бұрын
13:37 Looks like temps and framerate is the same with the monoblock?
@WinDeckTech10 ай бұрын
Pretty much lol. I saw no real difference. I've since made a better mounting connection and will be revisiting it in the future alongside other cooler mods.
@creativerayn Жыл бұрын
Full support for dog fostering ❤
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
🐶🐾 just wish I could advertise the rescue I work with. They truly are great!
@creativerayn Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech if there’s anything I support more and hope for is that places like that getting noticed. What is the name of the shelter or link I too would like to donate however little I’m sure it all helps.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@creativerayn unfortunately I'm not comfortable giving out the name of the rescue as it would essentially dox myself as I am heavily, heavily involved with them. What I would suggest though, is to look for rescues in your area (not the SPCA run ones) and help them out anyway you can. Whether it be monetary, time, or fostering. There are a lot of things that rescues need help with. Even simple things like a bag of food can be hard to come by at times.
@creativerayn Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTech completely understandable. I wish them all the best and you with the channel also on a side note as I have enjoyed the content so far and hope it continues to grow!
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@creativerayn thanks for the positive message! I really appreciate it :)
@Mettleh3d Жыл бұрын
Off topic but how do you mount your sd card after returning to stable release from main release
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Did you do the change with the SD card in? I have found if you do it with the card in, It will not read. What I had to do was roll back the update with the SD card out. Put it in, take it out then do the update again
@Mettleh3d Жыл бұрын
I've always changed between builds with the SD card removed
@juzgoznasznapamiec3 ай бұрын
Is it valid for steam deck oled?
@WinDeckTech3 ай бұрын
I don't believe so completely different cooling layout. I didnjust get a sd oled and have v1 and v2 of monoblock I'll be making a vid featuring them in the future
@blazini2 ай бұрын
Using multiple layers of copper with thermal paste in between each is a terrible idea. Thermal past doesn't actually transfer heat well, it's just alot better than the voids of air that would be present between the cooler base and the CPU heat spreader. If the height of the cooler plate was wrong it's trash, it's not even worth doing a review cuz the product may otherwise be good if fixed, it will never be good like this.
@WinDeckTech2 ай бұрын
No and that was the point if this video. It "can" work but it was fubar from the beginning by design. Apparently V2 is better although I've not gotten around to testing it yet. Still sitting in it's box. The one thing that I will say is a "plus" of the monblock is that it does indeed cause the fans to not as high of an RPM howver the flip side of that is the monoblock itself gets quite warm from the heat spread. I'm going to be working on an all backplate test for the ally then revisit the steam deck with the v2 to see if there were any improvements or, if even possible, more regressions haha. Thank you for your input and insight. I'm also going to be getting some thermal putty just to see if there is a major difference one way pr the other with that.
@raykupal9 ай бұрын
6:47 .... 🥴
@carlosroberto-kq5wdАй бұрын
Pasta termica nas memorias? não entendi
@dontsweatme4588 Жыл бұрын
What are the alternatives ?
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
Jsaux backplate with optional fan is a good option
@dontsweatme4588 Жыл бұрын
I have the first gen backplate. Is the revision any better ?
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@dontsweatme4588 I am still using the first gen backplate. I have my doubts about v2 being any better
@dontsweatme4588 Жыл бұрын
@@WinDeckTechwhat about when combined with the fan? Do you get close to a 10 degree drop ? And does the noise bother you
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@dontsweatme4588 honestly the jsaux fan is a lot quieter than the steam deck. If you're playing in a docked functionality then yes the fan will be infinitely quieter, although I wouldn't necessarily play with the fan and handheld mode. Although the back plate does offer quite a significant temperature drop for just being an ad on simple purchase Edit: I can't I'm going to revisit all of this with a v2 once I get proper shims and ptm in
@EmergencyChannel Жыл бұрын
Not worth $99 to me, just play your steam deck and enjoy it. Steam Deck 2 is probably only a few years away.
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
But if I can't modify/destroy my steam deck, am I truly enjoying it?
@donniedarko4497 Жыл бұрын
I always play Inside with good AC. I use the old fan curve exclusively, and have had zero cooling issues or loud fan noise, ever. I will add a caveat, I had to RMA my old SD about 9 months ago because I was using the new fan curve for a long time and long play sessions. It overheated a few times and then began resetting on its own. Use new fan curve and there's no issues!
@WinDeckTech Жыл бұрын
@@donniedarko4497 oh wow. I was using the old fan curve exclusively, mainly because I figured if you're doing a mod like this, then you would want the quietest fan possible.
@exagearfrancophone Жыл бұрын
Same effect more cooler for 30$ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNCkhcpqvN6YpGw.html
@jet6139 ай бұрын
If this performed better and was below 50$ I'd jump on it. But no thanks for now.
@WinDeckTech9 ай бұрын
It's a fun mod for sure. But yeah, definitely not worth the price imo