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Who made your saddle?

Hello 👋 Michele. How are you doing ? Hope are you fine. I'm Mark Clifford and am from Denver Colorado, where are you from. You seem like a real country girl

Where do we buy one

A true Wade is Horn and fork are a single piece of wood with a Stock thickness of No less than 5"....all the Western saddle Names are Basically/mainly just the Shape of the swells/fork...for example Will James, Buster Welch, Olin Young, Wade, Bear Trap, Low Moose, TM (Toots Mansfield) are just the shape of Fork thats it

A Tree Maker can make any Bar spread, Bar Angle,Bar length, Fork/Swell Height or Fork Angle, Wood Post Horn or Metal Horn with many options on Cantle Height, once you decide on what Fork Name/Style you want

Most common measurements on Tree have 4" bar spread with 90-93 degrees and from there Every Tree Maker has their own front Bar Shape and Bar length and so on....

No sir, I have no idea. I suppose you could just make double sure that that little bell notification is clicked. But I am about as technologically ignorant as a man can get, and I fear that is a KZfaq question. Thank you for the kind words and encouragement.

Click on the bell and make sure you have "all notifications" selected.

Actually, Clifford Rode the Saddle from his dad. Clifford Wade was a mentor of such to Tom Dorrance. Tom Understood the qualities of the style and had Hamley Make him one. Hamley wanted to call the updated modified style the Dorrance Tree but Tom protested and said the Tree should be called The Wade.

@@TightwadTodd Yes Sir, that is correct. I think it's a tribute to the character of Mr. Dorrance that he insisted on the tree style being called the Wade, and subsequently all it's iterations. Very selfless act, and makes for the great story of it's beginnings to it's current form.

@@scrutinizer9128 Thats how Tom Was. He didnt like Attention much and didnt even want to take credit for the way he taught people to communicate with horses. He said it was the Horses method and he just watched and listened enough, to learn it. I have actually sat in both the Clifford Wade and the Tom Dorrance Wade.

For some reason no one talks about the true origin of the shape of the horn from Mexico used by Charro's/Vaquero's..Wade Saddle is a modern fully covered leather mexican saddle

I would like to hear your opinion about Mexican saddles, not for controversy or anything like that, just curiosity

Cheyenne roll and and my rope, if I can get there and I’m pretty damn forked !

SA Brown out of Elko, NV

I’ve never owned a Corriente saddle myself, nor have I ridden one. But I know folks who have and they thoroughly love them. We had a student come to the school a couple of weeks ago and she had a new one. And we inspected it and looked underneath at it and went through it, and for the money I think it’s a pretty good deal.

@@DryCreekWranglerSchool was there anything about it you thought needed to be improved?

The saddle tree was covered in fiberglass instead of rawhide. Now there’s a lot of discussion about the pros and cons of this, there is a reason why all of your top working saddles out of handmade shops have rawhide covered trees. Also, if I remember right, the strings were not drilled all the way through the tree. That’s always a negative for me. But at the price point, there weren’t a lot of complaints.

@@DryCreekWranglerSchool I was taught at a young age by my Uncle to buy a rawhide covered tree for a working saddle. I’m in southeast Ga where the humidity is brutal but never had a problem with rawhide. I watch saddle maker Don Gonzales on KZfaq also. He mentioned in a video that he switched from rawhide covered trees to fiberglass covered trees for the working cowboys saddle’s of south Texas because they have to swim their horses across the saltwater creeks pushing cattle to pastures. He said the fiberglass holds up better where they’re getting repeatedly soaking wet and drying back out and wet again. I’m sure there’s advantages to both but thought his take on it was interesting as well.

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For me, I own a smooth out seat and broken in my uncle's roughout.. As on how the seat feels.. smooth out for me, seat was really slippery brand new but as the leather brakes in not as slippery Rough out really grips your pants but over time the rough texture wears out on where your seats is and legs lay.. As for looks.. smooth out just looks better over time. Rough out you can see the wear areas from your seat and legs.

Any real ranch working saddle, be it a Wade or not, should have the stirrup leather‘s back under your hips so that you’re setting up forking your horse. I know there are certain types of performance saddles and pleasure riding saddles that move the stirrup leathers forward so that you’re sitting back on your hip pockets. But I do not think that the position of the stirrup leathers is a feature exclusive to the Wade tree.

@@DryCreekWranglerSchool OK, Thanks for the info!

The Wade saddle, Like any other type of saddle, can be made on a variety of tree widths. It’s been my experience that a semi quarter horse bar, or a 90° by 4”, fits the broadest range of horses.

I have hard to fit horses. Narrow and high withers, and the wade affords me just a little more room up top there like few modern trees

Rand’s Custom Hatters. The model is the TS3, but I completely reshaped it myself

@@DryCreekWranglerSchool thank you sir

Hello 👋 Clissa. How are you doing ? Hope are you fine. I'm Mark Clifford and am from Denver Colorado, where are you from. You seem like a real country girl

Also from Australia here, and rode a wade most of my life. From what I was taught by my friend, who is a saddler, and built both my saddles: Generally, what makes a wade, like the guy in the video said, is the fork shape, which is partly about accommodating the horn. The forks tend to be lower, thinner and a little wider between the seat and the front of the fork. This then leads to wades tending to have slightly bigger bar pads under the fork to support the fork, they also tend to have slightly bigger bar pads at the back behind the cantle too. Which, in turn tends to give them better weight distribution for the horse, and tends towards a seat shape that sits a rider in a straighter position. About 30 years ago my friend showed me a wade tree and compared it to an association roper tree he had, and the bar differences were noticeable. The bars on the wade were larger than those on the association roper. These days they all look about the same. I'd guess the way your wade didn't have a horn was because it’s not that uncommon in Australia for wades to be built without the horn. Everything else would be exactly the same, they have just not had a horn carved out with the fork and rather are just round over the top. An egregious waste of a saddle in my opinion.

@@foiran "An egregious waste of a saddle in my opinion." lol But we don't use ropes like You guys do either so we have no use for a horn. It just would get in the road. But I see your point. I'm not choosy, I just wanted my horse to be comfortable at work. So a Wade it was. It was the only saddle that never left dry patches or more to the point it produced an evenly wet footprint on the horse. Which means it didn't press on the horse anymore at any point than any other point. This is amazing really when you think about all the so-called professional saddles that leave horses with terrible injuries over time. I also used a very wide girth which also never left any special mark on the horse.

From Arizona here There's a little more details on wade tree spec's that this guy left out. Yes his is correct on the horn and fork carved from single piece of wood A ture wade tree has a minimum stock length of 5" front to back (stock length is top of the fork just measure on the side/ bottom of the horn base) If the stock length is under 5" it's called Modified Wade, keep in mind horn and fork are still made from a single piece of wood. Anything that has a metal horn bolted to the fork that shares the specs of a Wade is called a Slick Fork In my opinion about your saddle not having a horn is not a Wade, I would call it a Slick Fork

@@brons5256 Ah I see, thanks for that extra information. I really don't know what to believe now. I want to believe the saddler who built my saddle because he is a good man. But you seem to also know about them and have given me a different name for my saddle tree. In anycase I won't be getting another saddle as I can't ride anymore. But good to know the differences. Plus it is just splitting hairs. I think the quality of the saddle is what counts and Wades are supposed to be best quality.

I bought my last two from classifieds listed on ranchworldads.com

@@DryCreekWranglerSchool do you have a particular type of stirrups that you like

I prefer 5” brass bound monels

On the saddles where do you get a good cheaper one?

There are some less expensive saddles to be found on ranchworldads.com, otherwise sometimes you can find something on Facebook marketplace. A lot of it depends on the area where you’re at as to what will and will not be available locally.

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