DSM Crank Walk Bolt Explained! - Eclipse GSX Transmission Mounting

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Let me know in the comments if you read the description.
Had to reupload TWICE because of frame rate issues. Hooray for a 1 AM release that will flop. Sorry!
I know, I know! It takes me forever to do small tasks. That’s what you get when you are thorough and working with a car where every other nut or bolt is wrong and you actually lube and torque everything.
Sorry for the long delay between videos. Had to work on my mom’s car quite a bit to keep her safe and Jaycob from Rust Belt Garage is here right now. Priorities!
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@MisterMemo 6 жыл бұрын

Great video bro! Watched it all the way

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks a lot! Your channel is growing so fast. You really deserve it with how hard you hustle. Big shout out to you in an upcoming video, though it may be a bit to come out. Really need to catch up on your latest. :)

@MisterMemo 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro, yes slowly but surely it's growing! I'm learning a lot from you detailed videos!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Honestly, you are doing very well! Glad my videos can actually be helpful. :)

@MisterMemo 6 жыл бұрын

802 Garage anything I can do to support let me know! Thanks for supporting as well!

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

Aw thanks man, appreciate it. Maybe someday we can collab. Go to the DSM shootout next year! Hahaha.

@CarsSimplified 6 жыл бұрын

Anti-seize often seals the fate of already somewhat stripped threads, and often isn't accounted for in torque specs. It reduces the thread friction so much that you will get more turns before you reach a given torque. Made it all the way, as usual! Good to see it all coming together; the next video is gonna be great!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure. I reviewed my footage and the hole definitely had issues ahead of time. I'm sure the reduced friction didn't help with the aluminum though. I should have just aimed for like 35 foot pounds or something. I did get a helicoil kit though so should be all set.

@blindabinda1234 6 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage helicoil will take care of that no problem. With the layout of the other three you'd think that hole would have been towards the passenger side closer to the firewall.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah actually, it is kind of odd placement. May have to do with it being an Evo design originally? I actually have helicoils to replace that and other stripped holes on the sub frame mount and starter now. :)

@TheEDCTribe 6 жыл бұрын

third times the charm! Great to see this thing come together, all of your hard work is paying off.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Finally got the big payoff in the live stream. HQ versions of that coming soon.

@revmatchtv 5 жыл бұрын

And the word for this video is “crank walk”! Great to see the trans finally in!

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I sure hope it doesn't become a big word around here! Thanks, Eric. :)

@LostReplay 6 жыл бұрын

Rewatching for a third time lol, I'm glad you fix the fps problem.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you VERY much! And me too! Boy was that a pain in my bum.

@linchester8464 6 жыл бұрын

Rewatching the video again. You forget a phase. Rmb to ring that bell!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, so true. Guess I should reupload again! ... NOT! Thanks again. :)

@revmatchtv 5 жыл бұрын

Lin Chester He needs a large bell and a 50 years experience before he can say that!

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

@@revmatchtv Maybe even a century of experience! 😂

@shardsforme 6 жыл бұрын

I am a Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX and my first and second gear is gone. I'm working on a spare trans in the meantime (assuming I get that time), but watching you get this going is very hope inspiring. Made it to the end btw

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

That's great! Thanks for sharing your story.Really appreciate you watching the whole thing. Hope you'll enjoy the fresh vids coming too. :)

@EbayTurbo 6 жыл бұрын

Man I can't wait to get my spyder on the road. Good work man!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Just subbed to you. This still needs a few tweaks before it is on the road, but not tons left to do!

@BradGryphonn 6 жыл бұрын

I've missed a whole bunch of this process. Man, you've made some serious progress on the Red Beast.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Just glad to see fresh comments from you!

@BradGryphonn 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy. Oh, and I do read the descriptions.

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! At least someone does. XD

@carlossince92 6 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the startup!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Hope you caught it. There will be an HQ version soon.

@CarswithNash 6 жыл бұрын

I made it all the way. When you need just a bit more out of a a shallow socket like that, slip it half off the extension, it allows the stud to go up into that drive hole. I’ve never seen anyone locktite & torque bell housing bolts lol, I get it though, you are making sure to solve all the issues it had. I always have some 3in1 oil with me & any threads I’m not using locktite on get a few drops, really helps things go together smoothly, likely the last people had cross threaded that mount bolt though, I noticed it was very loose as you were starting it...

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. And yeah for sure, I just want to give this car every chance it has to live after all the abuse it has had. The trans has already been messed up enough by previous owners, and trans flex can cause crank walk. I like to use anti seize on pretty much any bolt I might want to take out again, or at least some lube. Loctite only on those I really can't afford to have come loose. I did check the footage I had and the hole was already largely stripped before I got there. Thanks for commenting as always! I have some fun footage of Jaycob's PT Cruiser GT coming soon, BTW.

@TehPotatoMilkshake 6 жыл бұрын

Back for my dose of DSM All the way

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! Thanks a lot. HQ version of first start coming soon. :)

@StovallsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

Good to see it coming together. Nice organization and attention to specs. I'm more of a uggadugga kind of guy unless it's in the engine lol.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! I can totally understand that. When I'm working on most common Subaru parts I pretty much just go by feel. the main reason I'm being so picky with this car is that it was mistreated so badly before and I'm kind of going for a restoration. plus it had so many issues I just want to give it the best fighting chance possible!

@mrmadmoody 6 жыл бұрын

Looks alot better this time.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@BradGryphonn 6 жыл бұрын

When you said you were going to put a lot of Loctite on it, I cringed. But then you put it on and I relaxed. Many years ago I used to deliver freight to a major mine here in Australia. I'd do favours for the stores guys and they'd return the favour. The amount of Loctite Red, Blue, Silver grease (super anti-friction grease), tapes, glues, fibreglass mesh and resins etc that they gave me over six months lasted me for the next five or six years. I had an old Valiant and a Kombi that used a lot of my graft & corruption treasure LOL. Edit: An example of the stash I had; I had 30 big cans of carby cleaner spray., 10 each of 50ml Loctite R & B, and heaps of stuff. I could have opened a shop (this was pre-interwebz).

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

My definition of a lot isn't the globs some people will use. XD I would never put more than a dab of red Loctite on something. Had to get a crankshaft pulley bolt out once that was slathered with it. Boy was that a fun hour or two of work, hahaha! I'm jealous of your hoard, I keep running out of supplies.

@AaronBonBarron 6 жыл бұрын

I love that you use a torque wrench for everything lol For everything that doesn't need a specific clamping force like bearing caps I use the torque spec "FT".

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to give this poor neglected car every fighting chance to function properly! I'll bite, what does FT stand for? XD

@AaronBonBarron 6 жыл бұрын

"F*cking Tight" hahaha

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Bahaha, shoulda figured that out.

@jbc3223 6 жыл бұрын

made it to the end buddy.Awesome work. Not sure what you are planning to do with the GSX when its done, BUT maybe putting in the right bolts the first time would make sense. Also, cleaning up the mounts and painting would clean up the bay a lot tidier. :)

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for watching and commenting! I agree with you on putting in the right bolts the first time. That's why I ordered proper bell housing bolts, starter bolts, and a few others. I didn't actually know just how many wrong bolts I had before putting the rest of it back together and researching more. I have a list of probably 10-20 more bolts to order and replace soon. Luckily most of them are fairly easily accessible. I do also have a bin of OEM bolts somewhere from a part out, but I can't find it! I did clean and pain the sub frame and front mount at least, but the others will definitely get done later. :) Thanks again, I appreciate your input.

@mrsabidji 6 жыл бұрын

You did it! Congrats for rendering this video in 30fps against its will. Showed it who's boss!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, 100% Learned something new at least. XD

@mrsabidji 6 жыл бұрын

Was it because of the sped up segments? Who cares, it's fixed. I watched it all, too. On a side note, I go crazy over the tiniest amount of rust on my cars, I admire your tolerance for it. :D

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

It was actually dumb. The intro I use right now was redownloaded due to lost files and apparently came in at 15 FPS. Since I loaded that into my timeline first it set the whole thing to 15 so even when I rendered at 30 it was messed up. So the file could say 30 FPS but it was still displaying basically 15 FPS. Had to find how to change the settings. Much annoying. You must be one of the lucky ones who live in a dry state. You can't own a car for a week here without surface rust on any bare metal. :P

@mrsabidji 6 жыл бұрын

I never uploaded multi-fps files, so I wouldn't know. I've dabbed into video editing/rendering, but I use good old Virtualdub mainly. It's a bit hands-on, so to speak, so when something goes wrong, everything goes wrong. Makes it hard to miss. :D I live in central France, for lack of a better word, so it gets wet during the winters, cars will rot if you don't pay attention to them. Did the wheel arches on my Saab 2 years ago and it's already showing signs of rust. :( Just about finished de-rusting the Stagea last month, we'll see how it fares. :) I really like how you're doing all that work in your backyard, reminds me a lot of how I work on my own cars, in my own backyard and how I wish I had a proper shop. Keep them videos coming, they're both entertaining and inspirational. :)

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

At first I thought you said embarrassing and inspirational and I was like... Hahaha so true! XD I've been to France once! Didn't get out to the country though. I completely understand you on the winter rust. 100% same here. I've been working in the driveway and yard a long time. We make due! Hoping to acquire a lift in the next year or so. :)

@swazi5 6 жыл бұрын

The tight squeeze ratcheting crescent bolt was oddly satisfying to watch

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, totally feel you on that. Always glad to see a comment from you. HQ version of first start coming soon. :)

@steveramirez2770 6 жыл бұрын

Made it all the way!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot, really appreciate it. :)

@oneilphinn6370 3 жыл бұрын

Can we get some links for where u got the gearbox bolts please

@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I didn't reply. I got all of mine from JNZ Tuning you can search for the part numbers I gave in the vid.

@EllieSky 6 жыл бұрын

Third times the charm!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

I sure hope so! If there are any problems with this upload I'm quitting KZfaq! :P

@sheffield8184 6 жыл бұрын

Please do another piss take scotty video one of the best videos on KZfaq by far 👍🏻

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated. I def want to do more parodies, but I may move on to other people before coming back to Scotty.

@sheffield8184 6 жыл бұрын

802 Garage do Chris fix but don’t forget to flap your hands about in front of the camera like he does lol

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

Oh believe me, that's the plan, hahaha.

@raven6948 6 жыл бұрын

Yo yo , cryaroo, I like that lol

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, hah! Hopefully we can sort out the best options. Appreciate the comment. :)

@burntxtoastt 5 жыл бұрын

Where did u order the bolts from??

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

JNZ Tuning. They actually have two websites, one that is more performance oriented and their OEM catalog. The OEM is typically a bit cheaper. I used a variety of websites to find part nunbers like STM Tuned and Extreme PSI though.

@BradGryphonn 6 жыл бұрын

14:45 - If the bolt is made from cheap steel, there is a good chance it could be stretched to near breaking point if it's beyond its tolerance.. Keep an eye on it.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Fortunately, that's ones I want to replace with a proper OEM bolt anyways, though I think it would hold up alright. :) Hope you can find time to catch up on the videos soon and there is an HQ version of the first start coming soon.

@commoncars3109 6 жыл бұрын

Damn dude, your hair grew back quick

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, yes, that's it! :P

@LLSniper 6 жыл бұрын

I read the description!

@LLSniper 6 жыл бұрын

Also, I'm pretty sure I watched the original upload and idk why I'm rewatching it but I guess it's just that good

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha you are like the second person to read it. Also that's great, thanks a lot! :D Hope you'll enjoy the first start in HQ when I edit it.

@LLSniper 6 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage wow, I thought more people read them. 😂 I most definitely will enjoy seeing that. Gotta catch up on your other uploads now!

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Need more viewers like you. :P

@kellicees5568 6 жыл бұрын

It is definitely a good thing you labeled those bolts. Would have looked like something to store in the garage forever or throw away, otherwise...

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

I would have been beyond lost without all the labels. Constantly looking online even more than I already was considering all the incorrect hardware. Thanks!

@TheBigGuyGarage 6 жыл бұрын

Holy Fucking Hole Batman! Wait what!!!! I feel like ive said this before LOL

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Bahahaha. There is replacement metal coming. :)

@KayoticMotorsports 6 жыл бұрын

Made it all the way

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Really appreciate it. :) Hope it was worth it.

@KayoticMotorsports 6 жыл бұрын

I am currently doing the same deal with my gsx but a little more in depth (check out my channel ;)) so comparing your experience with my own is helpful. I also rely on jafromobile for a lot, and actually got to watch him race this past weekend.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

That's amazing! I'm, hoping to drive this car to the DSM shootout next year. My new long term goal. I subscribed! By more in depth do you mean a larger series of repairs and mods or actually more detailed in the videos? I already worried I go too detailed to have anyone actually watch! Hahaha.

@KayoticMotorsports 6 жыл бұрын

More repairs and mods. Thanks for the sub

@802Garage 5 жыл бұрын

Gotcha. Look forward to it!

@therealboofighter 6 жыл бұрын

Definitely not Tommyfyeah spec lol. No zinc plating here. 😂

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Gotta get more of dat paper first!!! I do at least do powder coating. ;)

@therealboofighter 6 жыл бұрын

802 Garage woah, go to sleep. lol

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Someday!

@nhicknh 4 жыл бұрын

What size bolt is q?

@802Garage 4 жыл бұрын

M8X1.25X60 part number MD706012 comes with a lock washer and washer. See this picture for reference. www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=20246 It is a crucial bolt which many people leave out. Don't forget it! I recommend just buying the OEM bolt as it's fairly cheap. Just search the part number on Google.

@nhicknh 4 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage awesome thank you

@802Garage 4 жыл бұрын

@@nhicknh You're welcome!

@rechargegamesstudio2803 6 жыл бұрын

the imposible is now posible

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed! Thanks a lot. :)

@therealboofighter 6 жыл бұрын

I made it most of the way.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha skip around a bit? ;) Thank you!

@therealboofighter 6 жыл бұрын

802 Garage a bit

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, it's all good. :D

@BurgundyBurnouts 6 жыл бұрын

Wooo that sweet 30fps

@CarsSimplified 6 жыл бұрын

Had to render it in 60fps to get this 30fps, I bet! (Kidding)

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

@@CarsSimplified Woah... Did they bring back tagging? That would be hilarious!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Burgundy Burnouts Yeeehaaaw!

@BurgundyBurnouts 6 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage sweet I miss tagging

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

It's weird, on mobile it actually highlights names again!

@cass7447 4 жыл бұрын

Not sure what the plan is here, your strut towers are gone. If you plan on driving this you should repair that before the struts come out the top.

@802Garage 4 жыл бұрын

100% the plan and in progress right now. Car is in the garage with towers being cut up and welded. Lots of updates to come on this car, just haven't taken the time to edit. Appreciate the comment!

@blindabinda1234 6 жыл бұрын

Hmmmmm this looks familiar. ...

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

I uhhh... Have no idea what you mean! ;)

@blindabinda1234 6 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage the 85ft.lbs is for the timing side Mount to body through bolt. Seems awfully high.

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

@@blindabinda1234 I agree! Did you look it up? I have seen some questionable sources. I believe it should be more like 42.

@blindabinda1234 6 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage I saw it on a dsmtuners forum thread. But that through bolt doesn't even have any clamping forces I wouldn't think. I'd stick with the 42 like you said. Seems much more realistic.

@blindabinda1234 6 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage www.dsmtuners.com/threads/torque-specifications-specs-spec-nut-bolt.382492/ click this link then scroll down a bit and download the 2g torque spec manual thing.

@outlawgarageracing6538 6 жыл бұрын

No longer first 😔

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Don't worry bro, you're still first in my heart, hahaha! :'D

@outlawgarageracing6538 6 жыл бұрын

802 Garage aweeee! Broooo

@blindabinda1234 6 жыл бұрын

Only thy brethren from thee first upload may know thy true first of comments my friends! !!!!! Lol

@outlawgarageracing6538 6 жыл бұрын

blindabinda123 ya what they said!

@802Garage 6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, don't worry, I remember!

@yubentrolled7097 2 жыл бұрын

No disrespect but, jumping christ on a hot plate.... This is a 90s DSM, not a spacecraft. Bolting the trans to the engine should be a 5 minute thing. Get a 3/8 impact and ram the bell housing blots home my dude. As a matter of fact, do that to all the bolts. Unless you're planning on throwing this thing in the Concours d'Elegance. But even then I don't think they check bolt torque. Enjoyed the video other than that.

@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know the issues these cars have if you DON'T torque the transmission properly? I mean, I explained them in the video and they're literally why I had to diagnose issues a Mitsubishi dealer couldn't figure out after replacing the flywheel twice and why I had to remove the transmission and sleeve the starter bolt holes. People doing exactly what you described is why I had problems. By the way, if I was doing it off camera, it would take 5 minutes. Filming and explaining as well as providing specs and tips adds huge amounts of time. Additionally, if I'm going to make a video on a topic, I'm going to show how to do it right, not half ass it. I do lots of stuff off camera that I wouldn't necessarily recommend. When it comes to bolts involving the drivetrain, sealing, or rotating components, I use torque specs. With very good reason. I've seen what happens when people don't. Thanks for the comment.

@yubentrolled7097 2 жыл бұрын

@@802Garage I see I got you in your feels, my apologies for that. I was trying to be respectful. Yes, I do understand the seriousness of proper torque, I've been spinning wrenches professionally for ~15 years and I've owned quite a few Neons, PT Cruiser GTs an Eclipse or 2 (current Eclipse has over 230k on the original motor and I've installed 2 clutches) and even auto-crossed a couple of those. In my career, I've not had a single car come back or blown a motor because the bell housing or motor mount bolts were too tight. I've also not seen anyone else have a comeback for over torqued bell housing or motor mount bolts. Too loose or tightening bolts down while the bell housing is misaligned, yes. If clearances are as critical you make them here, you should be using a plasti-guage and or feeler gauges and measure for clearance. Again, thank you for the video and I'm truly sorry I got in your feels. I guess I've been in the business too long and I'm callus.

@802Garage 2 жыл бұрын

@@yubentrolled7097 I'm not in any feels. I replied in a respectful and straight forward manner. We weren't talking about clearances that would requite plastigauge, we were talking about clamping force as well as damaged threads or loosening bolts if anything. So you're really conflating entirely different issues. The point of a torque spec is to ensure a proper clamping load without going out of spec on the bolt or threaded material, which I'm sure you know. I have seen many damaged threads and bolts as well as failures due to improper torque. I understand being callous. I also know how to put together a car without using a torque wrench once. It's still not the "correct" way to do it, and I'm not going to make a video without at least advising people of the proper procedures. You do you on your cars and I'll do me on mine. I have done plenty of customer cars without torqueing every bolt to spec of course, but when I put their lug nuts on I still use a torque wrench because then I can reassure them it was done properly and I can cover my own ass as well. Just how I do things. Have a nice day.