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PS3 wins when it comes to battery life

I honestly don't have a problem with the dualshock 3's triggers

I bought a ds4 controller. I don't own a PS4, i just use it on my PC. And it works like a dream!

I still prefer the original DS layout though. But thats probably due to me using it for 15+ years.

PS3 Sixaxis had no rumble because the company that made rumble for Nintendo sue them, so they didnt have rumble until they won the demand and that is when they sell the Dualshock 3 with sixaxis

"Oh no one likes our original dildo design!" hahaha I loved that part.

Awesome review, though there's only one thing I'd want the DualShock 4 to have, that the XBO controller has, Rumble Vibrations for the L2/R2 buttons, which would be awesome! But all-in-all, Sony got the controller right. And they really ought to get that DS4+PS3 Compatibility right, it's a missed opportunity (I agree with you there).

Did i hear you say you don't like the triggers lol.

I just recently bought a PS4, and from someone that has owned all consoles and absolutely hated the PS3 controller, the DS4 feels fucking awesome. It's so much more comfortable. The touchpad is awesome, I'm really digging the speaker, the triggers are near perfect, the grip on the bottom feels great, and the analog sticks are MUCH better(I really like the convex,concave combo, which I thought was weird, but they feel nice). I still prefer the feel of the Xbox controller personally, but the DS4 is great still.

Man I've been with this channel forever. Never change the intron hahaha

The Dualshock 3 isn't that bad a controller. And how can people act like 360 is perfect with its crappy D-pad?

The playstation controller is the supreme controller out there imo, no reason to change the design at all. In my hands atleast it feels perfect, perfect size and fit ^^

i guess im difrent than everyone else cause i perfer the ps3 controller over any other one

Something not many people know is that there was a reason for the dualshock 3 buttons being "mushier." This is due to a feature that was rarely used. The buttons on the dualshock 3 were pressure sensative. Sony saw that nobody used this and got rid of it on the dualshock 3. I do, however remember games such as NFS pro street, (I know it was terrible but it was my 1st ps3 game that I got for Christmas) I would get excited and stressed trying to pass nearby cars. I would squeeze harder and It always seemed like I would go faster.

ReviewTechUSA is the dualshock 4 better than the 360 controller in your oppinion?

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I wish you could us the DS4 on the PS2.

Anyone here from his livestream?

Ayyy, Fuck this New KZfaq Comment section!!!!!!

Rich’s stream today brought me here

Notice that the square and circle in the PS3 aren't the same length as the triangle and circle. The space in between aren't congruent, but on the PS4 the circle and square buttons are proportional to the distance of the triangle and circle.

I agree with ur point on the micro USB connector. I think they should do something like Apples MagSafe connector - where it just snaps on n off without any fuss.

after three generations they finally made a good controller

Sony did it right with the DualShock for ps2 and DIDN'T CHANGE IT. Still amazing. Microsoft did it good on the second try... THEN CHANGED IT. Now I would prefer PS4 if I didn't have a PC.

The wii controller + nunchuck is still my favourite controller. being able to spread your arms a bit while playing a game is amazing.

The buttons on a DS3 are analog(Starting with the DS2) whereas the DS4 removed analog buttons outside of the triggers.

I seriously like all three gamepads this generation. That's never happened before. Off topic: I don't like that you need G+ for the new comments, but I like how they thread.

also the PS4 controller allows you to plug in any type of headphones and can listen through headphones

I've had those 3rd party triggers for over a year now and I've had absolutely zero problems with them.

I actually liked that Sony used the same gamepad design up until PS3. That's what I was used to. But it's alright that they changed it for PS4. Love that they didn't change it too much. The triggers for Dualshock 3 was ridiculous anyways.

Most people haven't figured out how to post replyable comments.

People complaining about console res... This vid is only 360p! cmon rich :D

I disagree with your last point. Quoted from wiki: "The Micro-USB connector was announced by the USB-IF on 4 January 2007. The Mini-A connector and the Mini-AB receptacle connector were deprecated on 23 May 2007. [..] The Micro plug design is rated for at least 10,000 connect-disconnect cycles, which is more than the Mini plug design [5,000]. It is also designed to reduce the mechanical wear on the device; instead the easier-to-replace cable is designed to bear the mechanical wear of connection and disconnection."

DS4 is a massive improvement! I thought DS3 was okay, until I tried DS4, now it's hard to go back.

It's a shame that the pressure sensitivity on the buttons has gone, though. :c Feels like a downgrade in that regard.

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I've been watching this guy's videos all day, but this one sold me to subscribe to him.. This nigga is just naturally funny.

When you talk about the buttons being "mushier" on the PS3, it's because they're analogue. They were made so pressing it softer or harder would give a different response. A perfect example of this is in Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3. Pressing the square button softly makes you ready your weapon, pressing it hard made you squeeze the trigger. On the PS4, the buttons are digital, that's why they click more fluently.

be honest. is it better than the Xbox 360 controller? The 360 controller to me felt like the perfect controller.

Xbox 360's controller is the best one of all time, in my opinion. They fucked it up the controller for the Xbox One though. (Why Xbox, why?) It looks like Sony caught up especially with the trigger buttons. I'm definitely going with PlayStation for this generation.

IMO the best game pads I've ever used are the xbox360's & the PS4's. In contrast I think the xbox1 & PS3 controllers feel like tears & misery. The one & only gripe I have with my duelshock4 is the thumb stick rubber coating, the left stick has started to wear away & I've heard some other people are having the same issue, I'm planning to take the whole pad apart & swap the normal sticks out & replace them with some xbox360 sticks, then it'll be the perfect controller ever, of all time.

Actually, Rich, I read this a few weeks ago on wikipedia about micro usb and here it is.. "The Micro plug design is rated for at least 10,000 connect-disconnect cycles-significantly more than the Mini plug design. It is also designed to reduce the mechanical wear on the device; instead the easier-to-replace cable is designed to bear the mechanical wear of connection and disconnection."

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="175">2:55</a> Concave.

Rich, why do you always intensely caress and play with every controller you unbox? I know it feels nice, but save the love for after the video.

I like the PS4 controller but I personally think it’s too ‘gimmicky’ with the light, touch pad and speaker. I *HATE* the ‘options’ and ‘share’ buttons as opposed to the old rubber ‘select’ & ‘start’ button.

We have triggers! Finally! The controller feels awesome, including the texturing along the back!

i give the Dualshock 4 a 100% or a 99% and i honestly hated the Dualshock 3 i LOVE the Dualshock 4 it's WAY BETTER

The N64 controller was the best controller in history. Period. It's design was ahead of our time though, I'm sure we'll appreciate it when we all evolve a third arm.

the click differences between the controllers is that DS4 buttons are all digital and are no longer pressure sensetive. where as the DS3 were analogue buttons with the pressure sensitivity

Every time I get a mini USB device it always wears out way before the micro USB. The problem with the mini connector is that it moves around too much in the plug; left and right, and that causes the metal port on devices to expand enough that the pins don't line up after a while. With micro USB it has two spring loaded clips that stop the connector from having the same problem. So I think micro USB was a good move.

So would you suggest gaming on a PC with a PS4 controller instead of the 360 controller?

Why you bother with PS3 CONTROLLER !?? The best controller is Xbox 360 unless you have 3 fingers...

The first time I used the Dualshock 3, when I pressed the L2/R2 buttons and it went down further than the DS2 and 1, for a moment I thought I broke the controller.

I know SO many idiots who would argue with me constantly that the Dualshock 3 was amazing, and the 360 controller was retarded. I never considered myself bias at all, and I can't see how you would be able to convince yourself that the DS3 was better than the 360 pad unless you're in denial.

Dual shock 4 the best controller

Lets be honest here the dualshock 3 was a cheap piece of shit

The click on the face buttons is because they're now digital, the DS3 controller had anolog X/O/Triangle/Square buttons. They feel mushier because they're meant to be able to be pushed at less than 100% - basically for racing games such as GT5 - now that the controller has real triggers they don't need to be

You can use sixaxis in Little Big Planet too to look around.

Dual Shock 1-3 remotes are some of the worst remotes ever made. They are extremely uncomfortable, from the D-Pad to the layout of the thumb sticks. Dual Shock 4 is such an improvement!

I am the only one that prefers the Dualshock 3 over the Dualshock 4?

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="650">10:50</a> the button difference is because the DS3 is analogue and it can register how hard or soft you press, the ps4 controller is digital, so it only registers pressed or not pressed. They did it because nobody used the function accept maybe Zone of the Enders.

I have had a similar thought about micro vs mini usb on many devices that don't require a smaller connector. However, after doing some research, you will find that the micro usb standard was deprecated for a very good reason. Mini usb cables have a specified life of 5000 insertions, and more importantly, will fail on the socket side. Micro usb was specifically designed to fail on the connector side, which means even if it does fail sooner, you won't need a new controller. That being said, it also has a life of 10000 cycles due to latches which hold the cable in rather than friction. This means that micro usb cables will continue to make good contact even after being slightly bent/deformed/abused. In my experience, I have broken the mini-usb cable on an old razr phone, but have never broken any of my micro-usb stuff.

I prefer the mushy ps3 buttons with thier pressure sensitivity

can you plug a pair of headphones inside Dualshock 4's ass *cough* i mean Jack and hear the whole game sound or its only made for headsets?

The vibration motors was originally removed due to a lawsuit that Sony and Microsoft (though microsoft bought their way out of it) got into with another company that had patents on the vibration motors. Eventually in the aftermath of the lawsuit Sony and that company (forgot its name) reached a deal and the shock was returned to the dual shock.

You forgot to mention that the Dualshock 4 has the mic input on the controller... kind of a big deal. :) Love the video!

So many potential spammers now because of the new comment system.

i love the Dualshock 3

The motion thingie was also in Heavy Rain, and Beyond Two Souls

To be frank, this looks nicer than the original comment section. The first KZfaq update this year to be a good one

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Xbox: Oh, Microsoft made a new Xbox, the 360. I guess these controllers wont work. PlayStation: Hey, a PS3. Looks like they changed the controller ports up. Better pick up some new controllers when I go to get the console. PC: Guess I should buy a more recent PC. *Uses keyboard form 2000s*

about the click of the face buttons, remember the DS3 face buttons are analog, they changed that on the DS4, they're digital now, thats why its "clickier"

The reason why the the DS3 has mooshy buttons is that it has variable digital input, so if you were playing GT5 you could use X as accelerate, it wasn't very good but it did work. When you press X on the DS4 it simply a single analog on/off input.

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Its obvious that dualshock 4 is better then 3 cause its new generation controller, LOGIC :D

I know it is an extra expense but you can always get the docking station to charge it if the cable breaks, or to prevent it breaking :D

Hey Rich, I fully agree with your "Big Flaw" the Mini/Micro wear down to easily. I would like to mention that the dual charger offered by Sony fixes that issue by not even using the micro port to charge the controller. Though to be fair it shouldn't weigh in on the quality of the controller, just thought it was the mention. Also the DS4 has a better weight and the texture of the controller doesn't feel as 'plastic' as the DS3. Just my 2 cents

The PS3 controllers, the games, and free multiplayer, the media support, the easier accessibility in the menus, etc. It's all better on the PS3. Graphics, that's it. Nothing else about the PS4 beats the PS3. I loathe the DS4, most of all. Back to PS3.

No disrespect Rich but for those of us who don't care how you look you gotta stop beating these douche's to the punch when talking about yourself. Your new videos as of late have been doing that. No cares that you have sausage fingers or that you're fat. If you don't like it change it. I subscribe to your videos because you bring valid points to the gaming community with intellect and relativity through reviews we are interested in. Last but not least you seem to be a real cool guy and gamer no matter what your age is. Keep up with that and I'll keep watching!

1997 design didn't have analog sticks, ps1 had analog sticks but they came later

Rich, the reason for the six-axis controller at first and the lack of dual shock features is cause Sony & Microsoft were sued by Immersion (citing Immersion v. Sony), while Microsoft settled out of court and bought a 10% stake in the company. Sony and Immersion came to an agreement to "explore the inclusion of Immersion technology in PlayStation format products." Nintendo were not involved as their rumble tech is different and they have their own patents for it.

I still think the rumble triggers on the X1 controller will destroy the Dualshock 4.

WTF is the touchpad?

Reason for the buttons being more clicky than mushy on the DS3 is the removal of Analog input on the face buttons for the DS4.

Good tech review as always Rich! I think the new comment system is good! It helps people with conversations, feedback is better and quicker from channel owners and it seems more connected than before!

you can use the ds4 wirelessly on the ps3...

Xbox will always have a better controller

i havnt had a PS3 for ages, but recently bought myself a PS4, and then got a good price on ps3 bundle so i can play some of the good ps3 games until some more ps4 games come out. but god, the DS4 feels soooo good compared to the DS3. the DS3 style controller was awesome when i was a kid, but as my hands have gotten bigger its feeling a bit small.

Finally! Someone else who has played Lair! Such an underrated game!

The new KZfaq design is AMAZING !!!

if you press the little white box in the top left corner of the comments where it says top comments, change it to newest first. it makes it similar to old youtube comments

Hey Rich, the Xbone controller will have a micro-usb as well. If you don't like the one on the PS4 , on the bottom there's a secondary port that you can use to charge it if you fell like using the top one

DS3 buttons feel mushier because they're pressure sensitive, while the DS4 ones are digital.

cant believe he didnt mention how the triggers on the dualshock 3 arent linear in travel stiffness meaning for games where it requires alot of holding down or repetitive use it can cause hand fatigue

I'm mainly curious about the Steam controller, but I could tell when they first revealed the Dualshock 4 that it would be at least better than the Dualshock 3. Good to see that even you found it comfortable.

I also wish that the dualshock 3 would have had been redesigned with triggers at some point in the life cycle, they already did it once with adding the motors back in. The xbox controller even got a different dpad towards the end.

Hey Rich you should do a comparison of all 3 next gen consoles (Wii U, PS4, Xbox One) when you've played with them enough so you can tell us what's your favorite and least favorite next generation console.