I was waiting for you to appear !!! Cheers sir !!!

" COX IT OUT LADS "

It's all in the owners manual, carry a photo in your phone.

@@adityahandu1008 eeh it makes my blood boil 😁

And it makes a huge different to the handling off road.

Mate did you even consider the air filter location?

I don't like in a dusty climate, so its not too big of a deal for me truthfully..but yes..that and the price of maintenance is the biggest drawback of the dx@@motorpolitan8884

@@motorpolitan8884 Dealer's problem, nobody buying a DX is doing their own filter changes.

Met Simon in a cafe in north Wales, nice bloke , had a chat about his days in performance bikes , he was more interested in my camper van !

Or more if you look at Ryan F9’s review! There is also what you want the bike for! If it’s off road fun you want the ducati, if it on road touring, why pick an adventure bike with 21” wheels! If it’s occasional off road but mainly on it’s the Triumph.

Now I feel old... I think it is not only age also the idea of what you will do with the bike, i'm planning big touring trips two up, and the Ducati was not great with a pillion, the Multistrada V2 is way better that the DesertX for that, so i end buying the Tiger as i liked even more that the Multi and pricing was way better and even more counting extras.

21 inch with slick road/touring tires are no joke, you can ride it like a sports bike no problem.

Road the Triumph 660 when looking for my first big bike and was very disappointed to have some weird aero shedding left and right making wind a real problem which was unacceptably worse with the screen in the higher position. Bizarrely the CBR650R I test rode and then bought had smoother and much less irritating airflow (as well as being hugely more engaging and exciting) and even on autobahns at speeds the Triumph could never match (148MPH indicated) a bit of a tuck kept tolerable. Sports shape screens move air much more cleanly than bloody great slabs! To a pilot this is no surprise!

Yeah upright screens are the problem, you can see on a BMW GS it curves back towards the rider rather than sticking up, a shame more adventure bikes don't ape this approach.

And 1.5k € only for the base price. Add heated grips, heated seats, etc which are already in the price for Triumph, and then Ducati will be way more expensive. But do I love how Ducati looks (except that weird handlebar at the rear of the saddle)

Completely agree ducati is hideous looking.

Imo the desertx looks bada$$

I think that Desert X's design is quite simplier and more classic than the Tiger's.

Desert xis £14295 in the uk so you paying inflated dealer prices so at exchange rate the desert x is €16100 euro uk price

In the states the tiger is 17400 Ducati is 18k so pretty close in price. 16 more hp, 4 more ft pounds of torque and much more comprehensive and adjustable electronic. Triumph has much better touring features though

@@Adventure_blac You might want to check the dealership service prices too...

Yes, all Triumph tripples are like that, doesn't look good nor i think it's great for performance

Is that one of those cheap looking v-twin air cooled scramblers around 800cc with not much horsepower.

Yeah it was the Ducati's "budget" bike.

I owned the same two bikes. I love the Scrambler for goofing around. I've traded the Tiger 800 for a 2022 Tiger900 and have been real happy with the upgrade.

Ducatis have been reliable since the Volkswagen takeover lol

I also like the multistrada V2

It's an amazing bike. Paper specs don't do it justice. It's an absolute blast to ride. Definitely off-road oriented, and it is so fun it makes you want to misbehave badly with it. I love my DX.

To answer all , Ducati yeah it is more reliable after vw took over, yeah the panigale are beautiful but still the desert x is top to it’s category for me the happy medium around 100hp on your back tyre nice and tall good brakes good suspension normal price simple design. Get my money Ducati 😂 💰

@@chrishart8548 Got one, the Multi is a better road bike than the X and looks better…

No, these bikes are in the same category, along with the Africa twin

It does look better, Triumph need a bit of redesign and the bigger 1200 is awful in design, that front light looks atrocious

True, it doesn't look as if it'd take much of a spill to wreck it.

In the Aussie press ride they had two tanks damaged from crashes IIRC. One was pissing out fuel. It definitely needs crash bars, which then increases its weight even more vs the 890 Adventure R

The tank is not giant (the bike is narrow), but it stretches down so that the center of gravity, hence the feeling of the lightness.

Hi , I rode the Triumph Tiger LOW , , LRH , at Peterborough MCN event in May and loved it , its the only adventure bike that I can touch the floor flat footed , I am the perfect average height at 5ft 8 in and , BMW, KTM , Honda , Ducati , whats the matter with these companys , you must try it .

That fillers position and tank shape might be a challenge for tank bags too

It silly that it doesn't come with one, but its $189 to get a great rear rack from Perun Moto, or a few hundred more direct from Ducati.

I LOVE the Steamer. Haven't ridden one since the 1990s, but one of those bikes I keep an eye out for on eBay. Really nice blue one for sale the other week, restored, lot of work done, went for a couple of grand.

Simon I nought mine about 17 years ago ,been well looked after it's got 15 thousand miles on it . Its had 2 swing arms as the concentric wheel tighter on the back cracked . 3 years ago I had new wheels made for it as the spokes rusted through the rims . Ally rims stainless spokes , I couldn't get a 2nd hand set or new old stock anywhere. Next door just bought the 900 rally Pro and 2 other lads on the estate got 955i . Tiger boys hahaha

Yeah they just released that color way.

Yes it has cruise control

not gonna lie, you had me in the first half.

That's why you buy japanese bikes.

tenere 700. enjoy

The manual simply says visit a ducati dealership 😂😂😂😂😂

Desmo service is £600 or less in uk at 18000 miles, same cost as any jap bike for their valve clearance service lol

@@Rust_valley_racing funny, Desmo service on my 2014 Multistrata cost me $1800 US at 18,000 miles and 12,000 mile service on my 2019 Triumph cost me $600 US at 12,000 miles….. call it Ducati tax if you want but everyone is aware of the cost of maintenance on a V-2 Ducati.

@@robynmolle5842 well you got ripped off and clearly don't know the European cost 😆😆😆 £600 desmo service or less depending in the dealer on a desert x in the uk. Fact !!!. The funny thing is triumphs not that popular in uk considering they was built here 😆😆 From a ducati dealer website in uk Please find approximate servicing costs at Ducati Worcester for the following bikes: Multistrada 1200 (All variants) Diavel (All variants) XDiavel (All variants) Streetfighter 848 Monster 1200 (All variants) Multistrada 1200 DVT (All variants) ANNUAL SERVICE £268.82 inc 20% VAT *The prices shown include 20% VAT, are for a scheduled service and include the parts associated with an oil change (oil filter, fully synthetic motorcycle oil and gaskets dependent on model) and include the labour for performing the listed tasks. Age and Mileage related operations After every basic service has been carried out, there are specific operations that must be considered for every Ducati motorcycle. These are essential to maintain your bikes' value and ensure durability and reliability. VALVES PLUS Due every 15,000 miles or 18,000 miles dependent on model (ask us for details). Valve clearance examination and adjustment if required. Cam belt tension check and adjustment Add £273.00 inc 20%VAT *Please note there is an additional exchange fee of £2 per shim applied to all models. Typically 2 to 3 shims require adjustment. This price is created accordingly. If the requirement is for higher or lower numbers of shim replacement, this price will vary. BELTS Cam Belts must be changed every 15,000 miles or 5 years There is no additional labour cost for fitting the belts if they are being done as part of a service plan The reason being, we are already doing belt tension (see the operations carried out during a service) as part of our service, it is not difficult or time consuming at that stage in the process to remove the used belts and fit the new and re- tension.... YOU GOT RIPPED OFF !

@@robynmolle5842 no reply ??? 😆😆

I can afford it and it’s only every 18000 miles, my GS1250 costs me more over the same distance…

I think all the triumph adventure bikes looked like bmw copies. F800gs (tiger 800) r1200gs (tiger 1200) triumph always living I bmw's shadows.

@@chrishart8548 I know that Triumph hinted that the GS was their target with the new Tiger, but I don't think they share aesthetics. Personally (and I'm not an ADV guy), I've never understood the boxer as a good off-road bike, aside from C.O.G. The width (and they keep getting wider) makes tight trails tough, no? I do get that the torque works well.

Neither do we!

@@chrishart8548 I don't know... to me BWM looks boring, Triumph looks acceptable. Never thought they are similar looking :|

Watch Ryan F9’s Desert X review, awesome and hilarious and he ends by buying one!

Two great bikes. I know looks are subjective but for me the Duke just doesn’t cut it! Slaby plastic panels, can’t see that lovely V twin motor and the front mudguard just looks horrid! It’s off road abilities are lost on me as I’d take something lighter and cheaper for off road fun, and it comes with no protection for all those expensive plastic panels. So it’s the Trumpet for me, looks good, better spec and it’s better suited for my needs.

One preferred the Ducati the other the Triumph. Didn't see any bias.

Absolute bollocks

@@AfricaTwinZA bit random Simon. To what are you referring old mate?

That’s because it’s meant to have the additional gas tanks fitted there

I thought that too when I was editing the video, but you actually don't notice them while you're riding.

Ktm 890 adventure R better comparison than the 901. The nordon isn't really for off road.

@@chrishart8548 I was going from styling angle

@@andrewlucas6214 in that case I will have the nordon 901. Have you sat on one the seat is unusually wide. It really splayed my legs out.

@@chrishart8548 not sat on Ducati but did the husky

@@andrewlucas6214 I've sat on a V2 multistrada I liked that a lot.

Yeah, looks are personal of course, but I don't like the looks of the Ducati either. It's got a Terneré vibe to it which I also don't like.

​@@michaelskinner896 take a look the cagiva elefant, and see where ducati's look comes from. Tenere...

Now you've said it, I can't stop seeing it!

Agreed. Way too much plastic up there on the DesertX. The Tiger is just a great looking bike.

I get around 240 miles out of a tank full on mine. Did a 2500 mile European tour last summer and averaged 63.5mpg.

@@delwilliams9042 I just got mine...2023 RP...and I'm on my 3rd tank of gas...and I'm only getting about 37mpg.... ??? I'm told it will improve as I put more miles on it....

No you’d just want to go off road a lot then the Ducati makes perfect sense. Watch Ryan F9 on the Desert X!

@K EE are yours uk mpg or American? Mine did improve from around 50 ish mpg

@@delwilliams9042 Oh interesting... American mpg. 50 is much better than 37 thats for sure.

Yes, sorry - in an ideal world we'd go much deeper into the bikes, but that would take much longer and use up more resources than we have available. It's not practical or viable. We review the bikes in the same condition most people will buy them, with oe tyres, for lots of reasons: 1) they say something about the manufacturer's aims for the bike, 2) the tyres are specifically homologated for those bikes, 3) it's beyond the remit of the review; you start to get into questions of which way to go - more road, more off-road - and then maybe some would favour one bike and not the other - basically, it makes things more complicated for us and for you, 4) we haven't the time or the resources to spaff a day switching tyres on and off the bikes, for relatively little return. I don't think it negates any of the comments in the video, or the conclusions we reach. It's not a week-long test or a durability test - this is simply two fairly experienced riders (who've ridden all these bikes' rivals etc) giving their opinions on how each bike feels to ride, and compared to each other. I think we arrived at the right verdict - neither is significantly better than the other in empirical terms - there are differences, and we talk about those - but the bikes suit different types and styles of rider - and that's what we communicate, I think.

@@writestuffmedia fair enough, and understand, appreciate all the hard work and under the constants. 🍻

What’s not to understand? Your point of view for a start.

I'm right with you Lars, totally agree.

How’d the new 900 engine feel. I have 12k miles on my 2022 but want more power.

@Paul B if you want to go off road (I don’t) it’s way better than the Triumph if you don’t want to go off road why buy an “adventure” bike? Buy a touring bike instead, which lets face it the Triumph is! The ducati in Dakar form won a stage with a MotoGP rider on it, watch Ryan F9’s review if you want to see how good the Duc is off road.

@@ianwarren Are you referring to Petrucci on his KTM?

That f850gs is a mess. Needs at least the 900 from the f900r small tank heavy weight. Torque and hp is now way down over the competition. And a Chinese engine. And its £16,450 for a F850GSA with all options selected.

there is literally 2 pieces of plastic on the ducati, considerably less than the triumph. source: i owned both.

What you smoking?

What a funny question to ask someone on a motorcycle channel. Alright, i’ll play along, what are you eating?

@@vanduc996 weed? Satefy equipment? Are you for real bud? Lol

Do you ride a motorcycle Simon? Lol

I don't agree. I live in Armorica, I don't want heated grips that I might actually need like a couple days a year and forget to turn them on anyway. Not everybody rides north of the 50th parallel.