Duck Buddy: Tips & Tricks | New M4L device, Duck Call!

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0:00 Intro
1:20 Sponsored message
2:06 Why Duck Buddy isn't a VST and why it only works in Live 11
4:31 Duck Buddy is a transient shaper!
6:21 Duck Buddy is mappable!
10:03 Duck Buddy is multiband!
11:53 Linear Phase Rant
18:00 Why do multiband sidechain compression anyway?
19:15 Use the EQ and Attack on your stock Ableton compressors
25:19 Duck Call
30:25 Outro
Today we talk about some of the most frequently asked questions and comments about Duck Buddy and show off some cool tricks you can do with it. We also take a look at our new device called Duck Call which allows you to use Duck Buddy with audio drums. No MIDI required!
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@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Sending out some special props to user "BeutNoise" for discovering and sharing that cool CV In hack to make Duck Buddy mappable to anything!

@BeutNoise 2 жыл бұрын

🐒❤️

@GuyWhoDidThatThing 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeutNoise Ah the bongo monkey master drops some knowledge

@danceb4nine 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve done multiband duck buddy with three eq threes and it does the basically the same thing without the compressing aspect

@aashish2763 2 жыл бұрын

Can't thank you enough for this . Duck call has so much potential to be explored creatively .

@alex-esc 11 ай бұрын

IKR it's also basically a replacement for Steven slate drum trigger!

@richardportch 2 жыл бұрын

Duck buddy with audio is what I've been wanting for so long! Thank you!

@prettygoodx Жыл бұрын

The only thing I hate about Duck Buddy is that it took me until today to find it. Superior plug-in; even my old muddy mixdowns sound much cleaner & tighter just by replacing old sidechain compressors with Duck Buddy. Keep up the excellent work.

@PittsMultiPass 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought your Duck Buddy so this is GREAT timing - this is what I’ve been looking for! 🤘🏽🙏👏👍

@danielagema 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, and I just used Duck Buddy as a sidechain Compressor. Very inspirational video to see the various possibilities duck Buddy is offering. Awesome plug-in dude 🙏🙌

@exp42 2 жыл бұрын

Just donated through your Ko-fi page. You guys are legends for building this thing, it's still hands down the best sidechain solution. Thanks again!

@morphicsmusic 2 жыл бұрын

Duck call is such a simple time saver, much appreciated!

@mthomas1091 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been meaning to play with Duck Buddy & Duck Call is exactly what I need. Thank you Slink! You’re so good to us 😘 I’ll look on your site to find something to buy ;)

@chilluscrypto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the follow up man. Been loving duck buddy

@lundercover 2 жыл бұрын

Slynk, one word to describe your videos : Genius !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big props thanks for spreading your knowledge

@tyeblee23 2 жыл бұрын

Love you Luna! Thank you so much for this plug-in!

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

I also love Luna.

@admiralhax9714 2 жыл бұрын

Youre a gem, slynk. Awesome idea with duck call too. Goat status

@NEXLEVdnb 2 жыл бұрын

DuckBuddy is great! I made a multiband rack (after wishing for the feature, in ableton you can just build it yourself!), trying a few different ways, eventually settling for band splitting in Fabfilter Pro-MB. However, after building and testing it I soon realised that a single duck buddy is indeed the best solution for virtually all kick sidechaining. Sure the multiband ducker dipped the sub part of the bass mix, but somehow the overall mix sounded not as clear as just a single band ducker. It is also an incredibly useful enveloper/transient shaper. Thank you. Excellent videos too.

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

That was my experience as well testing out multiband sidechaining on drums. It just sounds weird. Single Duck Buddy is the way.

@badwave 2 жыл бұрын

+1, honestly, i keep trackspacer around for those use cases anyway. if im getting into the territory of wanting multiband ducking, then im almost definitely trying to scoop out a space for another sound, and that’s a much more elegant solution that’ll give me the result i probably wanted to begin with.

@Alckemy 2 жыл бұрын

Happy to see you back^^

@GuyTallo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for these great tools. Bought them right away.

@cheadlejuice-musicproducti5875 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing! Love it!

@chrisconnelly6742 2 жыл бұрын

I LOOOOOVE duck buddy i literally use it in every session Thank you

@RaviYadav-bj6mw 2 жыл бұрын

Dude..... genuinely thanks a lot

@MONEYMINDSET-ENTERTAINMENT 2 жыл бұрын

Slynk! Thanks you for helping me on facebook a while ago. you r a good man!

@Akathanuge 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! you did it again!

@SonareDJ Жыл бұрын

Fascinating, Thanks

@borrasca 2 жыл бұрын

MRatioMB (free) can also do linear phase multiband splits, with only around 60ms latency! Great video, that CV In thing was mindblowing

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Hot tip! I love Melda stuff and the free plugins are super useful.

@andrewhoward4868 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Upgrading to live 11 soon and looking forward to trying out duck buddy and duck call. Btw, I'd love an entire in-depth video dedicated to the linear phase subject, that's a concept I'm still trying to wrap my head around.

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Linear phase isn't something you really need to worry about most of the time. And I think I said ask that needs to be said about it in this video honestly! Thanks

@munchkinkat 2 жыл бұрын

I love all of this

@floatrider9744 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

@wolfetrax 2 жыл бұрын

For the people looking for sidechaining for FL Studio, you can get away with a mix of layers (send midi to an envelope curve controlling a fruity balance on a channel and to your sound's trigger on the instrument). Dylan Tallchief did a video called "How to ACTUALLY sidechain in FL Studio", that details the basis of the method. If you use fruity balance (not the faders!), it is sample accurate i.e. not smoothed and acts just like most of the other sidechain plugins. So yeah you can get the same result as Duck Buddy in FL, you just need a little bit of setup. Just set up a template project with this set up on one channel. Highly recommended and it's how I do sidechaining in FL!

@NonameDerp 2 жыл бұрын

No one really wants to read how you do it when we are here to understand Duck Buddy better. Derp...

@soundfly76 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

@katywings 2 жыл бұрын

Dope intro 🙂

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Luna stole the show.

@_ENOC 2 жыл бұрын

Duck buddy made my shit bang instantly, one alternative use I've found so far was layering bass frequencies, I set up a multiband ducker ! Can't thank you enough

@jojomarino7327 Жыл бұрын

You can set LFO tool to envelope mode and send midi information to it via an external instrument. Also it has multi band capability. Love what you did with the oscilloscope in DB. Still using LFO tool though. Interesting Steve Duda said that because I'm hearing a very precise clean sidechain with unnoticeable latency using external instrument to trigger LFO tool. Am I missing something 😅

@richardsomerville5725 2 жыл бұрын

Neat , thanks mate :-)

@richardbarr7173 9 ай бұрын

I'm curious about the transient shaping idea - isn't this functionally the same as using the ADSR envelope in Simpler? I usually end up dropping the sustain on any kick drum and dialling in the decay amount. I guess Duck Buddy would give more control over the Decay curve but I'm not sure how noticeable that would be over such short time scales? (and come to think of it you could always switch Simpler -> Sampler to get more curve control over the ADSR). Anyway just thinking out loud here - Duck Buddy is amazing!

@mcmuffin8784 2 жыл бұрын

one small question : are you a saint? thank you for this cool device! 😎bought it for a cup of coffee cheers m8

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

No, but jarlyk and iggylabs probably are!

@adem_gun 2 жыл бұрын

24:02 if you increase the gain knob on the compressor, under "audio from" that should increase how much gain reduction the compressor applies.

@gdhfszhddzgsdhvdd 2 жыл бұрын

The osziloscope from duck buddy looks interesting. I'm sure it would be very easy ;-) to make a multichannel oscilloscope. Like psyscope.

@bradwebb6927 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve actually been designing a set of circuits to do something like this in line/mic/inst chains via CV

@mlw.high. 2 жыл бұрын

ily🥺, but for real the duck plug-ins r da best

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

I love you too, random citizen!

@jayeyoungson3483 2 жыл бұрын

My brain just melted 10 mins in, frothing on the sound design!

@oddmade7155 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome work 👍 ( and awesome cat ) ..you got me on max for live and now there's no hope... ..for boring beats :D

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the boring comment 😜

@oddmade 2 жыл бұрын

@@Slynk ..oh and that CV in thing shifted my reality a few degrees

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Right? Super weird haha

@dashlaru2 8 ай бұрын

Duck Buddy is terrific! Well done! Ever consider Kirnu Cream as a Max for Live device. I wouldn't know where to begin! Any ideas are welcome.

@valiumdupeuple 2 жыл бұрын

On L9's Compressor, with your filter trick + "slow" attack... you could increase the sidechain's input (the "gain" knob under the input selector) to get more reduction.

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

True. I guess I missed that. But either way, I still find ghost notes to be faster and more accurate to setup.

@valiumdupeuple 2 жыл бұрын

@@Slynk Yeah sure, I was just mentioning it for the sake of it. ;-)

@BodyRocker9 2 жыл бұрын

Thought of a M4L device idea. A auto device on and off. Basically a effectrix but not limited to onboard effects. You can map up to 16 ableton audio or midi effects on and off parameters but adjust the time in a loop grid just like effectrix.

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting idea. It might already be possible by using square waves on LFOs or Shapers attached to different effect buttons. Really neat idea though. Maybe I'll make something like that.

@coldmotivations 2 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥

@coreymumper2208 2 жыл бұрын

What would be the difference between your duckbuddy w/ cv in, vs envelope follower? Just curious cause i love duckbuddy but curious if it technically does the same thing. Incoming signal to modulate. Thanks Slynk! Your stache works brother! lol

@jussikarvonen8809 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your marvellous spot on output! Question: could I use duck call to trigger the ableton midi envelope plugin (for acting as the general source for further modulation) which I find way more usable than (audio triggered) envelope follower, that outputs a very source dependent blocky "envelope" that might get messy with many audio sources that are not super constant in volume. So an audio volume triggered constant midi envelope shape that would allow using midi envelope plugin in audio tracks modulator source would be the honey pot in context. Muchos lova&hiyas from Helsinki Fi!

@owlalex8534 2 жыл бұрын

GOAT

@bboymac84 2 жыл бұрын

🐈 let’s go!!

@jeanphilippebedard 2 жыл бұрын

Biggup

@Morahdub 2 жыл бұрын

can i rout this to any midi sidechain input such as shaperbox?

@carptackula7536 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for going SO DEEP into things - I have watched both Duck SC vids. But I have a question - why not just create a Return Track and place a Utility on it with a 1/4 clip on it that contains the required automated volume ducking. Then, simply duplicate this clip for the duration of the entire Project, and simply Send all MIDI and Audio to be SC to that (?). You could have one Return for Kick SC, and one for Snare. Simple! (or am I missing something - such as does this introduce latency?)

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Yes automation does involve some slight latency. Also your solution described does not involve any lookahead and so clicks would be present unless you account for that in the automation. Maybe with alot of fiddling around this could work but honestly, it sounds like a pain in the ass. I'm trying to make sidechain more convenient and have a better workflow.

@Akathanuge 2 жыл бұрын

is it possible for you to update the plug in to work with 11.1 for us M1 users? Doesnt seem to work well right now

@Trentcast Жыл бұрын

Really wish there was a version that worked with Ableton 10 😭

@r2worksee 2 жыл бұрын

Have you been able to replicate the bug that resets all of your Duck Buddy settings when you reopen a project? That is my only complaint, otherwise it’s been great.

@SIQN- 2 жыл бұрын

HI LUNA I LOVE YOU!!!!

@thetylersherman 2 жыл бұрын

EQ 8 has an Oversampling option in the context menu, was that initiated for these comparisons? I was under the impression that that pushed it much closer to linear phase results.

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's on by default. It's a minimum phase eq regardless of over sampling.

@thetylersherman 2 жыл бұрын

@@Slynk Must've misunderstood another video I saw on the topic. Thanks for the clarification.

@cubexBeats 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to sidechain to Duck Buddy with an audio signal, not a midi signal? I am normally working with audio material. :)

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

That's literally what this video is about.

@cubexBeats 2 жыл бұрын

@@Slynk i read you answer on the other video. Didn't watched this video till the end. I'm quite lazy, but thanks dude. You're doing really inspiring videos! :)

@_ENOC 2 жыл бұрын

Please help me understand the difference between using duck call and just creating a side chain midi track for ducking..... Would the benefit be to keep your tracks to a minimum?

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I do all my kicks and snares in midi so I don't use duck call. But some people place audio files on a track and it's annoying to then create a matching midi track to mirror those hits. Duck call does this automatically. If you change your drum hit positions you don't also need to change the midi track. So it saves time.

@_ENOC 2 жыл бұрын

@@Slynk thank you for taking the time to respond.

@javiermascareno4688 2 жыл бұрын

how do you get the Ableton Live 8 and 9 compressors?

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Well what I call the "live 9" compressor is really the same compressor version in live 10 and 11. Give me a couple minutes and I'll add a download link to the live 8 compressor in the description :)

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

Ok, I added a download link to the Live 8 compressor in the description.

@javiermascareno4688 2 жыл бұрын

@@Slynk TY so much for responding =D

@ABunnyVTuber 2 жыл бұрын

If ever there was a reason to finally upgrade to Live 11

@ArendPaulCurrie Жыл бұрын

So the only thing I couldn't figure out.. or Duck Buddy is missing in my opinion is the ability to sidechain groups... Am I missing something or how do we do that using Duck Buddy??

@beatpax 4 ай бұрын

this ruins the entire plugin

@Slynk 4 ай бұрын

Huh? Put the duck buddy on a group. That's how you side chain groups.

@beatpax 4 ай бұрын

@@Slynk so I am required to have two separate duck buddies?.....I want my kick that is in a group to trigger an entire instrument group...but I can't see the kick ..or the group

@abbasahmedlp 2 жыл бұрын

Linear phase multi band duck buddy vst3........ Take my money!!!

@jayeyoungson3483 2 жыл бұрын

If you use it and experiment, be sure to let him know and the next "phase" is born, aka next great video.

@wrigna1 2 жыл бұрын

I followed your exact instructions and it sounds terrible on my end!

@prophismusic 2 жыл бұрын

Ableton is King

@katywings 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly duck buddy is very unstable for me 🙈

@Slynk 2 жыл бұрын

If you can provide more details it will help us improve duck buddy. Please join my discord server and let us know the problems you're experiencing in the #maxforlive channel. Thanks

@katywings 2 жыл бұрын

Okeee dokeee 🙂🙏

@killer3544 2 жыл бұрын

Engaging

@mr.cutback3642 7 ай бұрын

Dude, that’s freaking insane, you just made all of those LFO tools completely obsolete with duck call

@valiumdupeuple 2 жыл бұрын

A linear multiband rack is totally doable, your technic's just not right ;-)

@YoungNino2017 2 жыл бұрын

Ah Steve Duda is behind LFOtool? No wonder it SUCKS! I've emailed him many times telling him how much Cthulhu sucks sucks, so it doesn't surprise me one of the other most broken garbage vsts was also made by him.

@YoungNino2017 2 жыл бұрын

@Vic LTD Serum is okay

@YoungNino2017 2 жыл бұрын

@Vic LTD No real style