Tow n go comes with a crazy sick exhaust system , they sound better than stock SRT durangos

Still using Mercedes platform.

I would prefer for it to have more tire and maybe set just a slight bit higher. But still I think it done pretty good overall.Especially for a unibody crossover. To me for a unibody crossover to compete with BOF SUV in the towing dept is pretty impressive.

And still lookin fine 👌

Best comment here. It us indeed in a class all its own. Everyone else abandoned the V8 in midsize, plus the Durango still has real room, borderline full-size SUV. Sure, it isn't as modern, but for a lot of people, the class-exclusives it does offer are more desirable.

Durango is fullsize...

@Speed Gate A previous admin (won't name names) handed Chrysler over to Fiat thinking we'd get a bunch of little 4 cylinder runabouts.. We got, MORE V8'S! Since Chrysler/Dodge/Ram is now the financial arm of the company..

I wonder how your Excursion would do.

@@10speedr I’ve been wanting to try it!

Only reason why I watch TFL.

You shall make a feature with them with the 7.3 excursion

Oh my gosh, I thought this was the hell at one! I'm so disappointed now. Hell cat everything

50k sounds a lot better than 66k. How were you able to get one for so much less? Big discounts or less options?

@@joetz1 dealer discounts, less options.... It's not that hard. Hell, if you all you get is the tow and go package you'll be at 50k msrp. The RT already has many of the premium features standard so that's all I would get.

@@joetz1 I have the same model outside of the DVD players. Fully loaded RT. I was able to get a good deal because the dealership was only open to essential workers and needed to sell some cars so there was a really good markdown.

Still have it?

​@@mcosta1819 traded it in a few months ago for a diesel Tahoe. We had zero issues in 77k miles. Not even a check engine light.The fuel mileage is much better on the Tahoe, but I personally miss the Durango and the HEMI

Agreed, those temps are mental. I understand that this is an extreme test, but when you see temps that high, you have a lot more trailer than tow vehicle.

Still did it with no issues, it’s nice to know it can actually do this

But payload is ridiculous 1200lb, wife and tree kids can't tow more than 4500lb-5000lb

@@zelenizub2036 1200 beats most high trimmed trucks

A durango is NOT a midsize

@Speed Gate Nope, it isnt. Durango is 7,100 GVWR, over 200 inches long, 76 inches wide, and has a 120 inch wheelbase. Tahoe is 7,400 GVWR and 210 inches long, 81 inches wide, 120 inch wheelbase. Both have third row seating. They have the smae tow capacity within 100-200 pounds. Have you seen a Durango in person? They are huge. Have you driven one? They are huge. A Durango is NOT a "midsize" anything. It is full size. Doesn't matter that the frame is different, its a "full size" vehicle.

How you gonna sell me a $5,000 "tow package" and I still need clip-on mirrors?

Welcome to the internet where theres many immature "adults" that are still living in the '80s and '90s even though its 2020. Needless to say, all brands across the board are having reliability issues in this day and age. I've been driving chryslers since '08 and they've been good, fun vehicles. The only negative things I can say about these vehicles is that they're thirsty vehicles, my wifes and my '04 durango (5.7l v8 @ 162k miles) and '05 sebring (2.4l i4 @ 148k miles) does burn some oil, and my '10 dakota (3.7l v6 @ 66k miles) has minor electrical issues (factory remote start, tpms). That said, everything else on these rigs are solid. :)

my 13 ram 1500 hemi I've done I-80west doner pass,I-15 from san berandio on the way to Vegas .I8 west imperial co to san Diego co at least 3 crossings of I10 ,I40 new Mexico. in summer and my oil temp never got over 244-245

dodge has always used engines that were pretty reliable, and modern cars are all pretty good. if someone takes care of their vehicle regardless of make or model it should last a reasonable amount of time and miles.

@@Kingswood7189 I agree, I have a 2004 Durango and It has 30k miles and I towed for most of it, in my opinion it's been quite reliable as it only needed 3 engine swaps, that's why I only buy dodge cars.

@@HJ-cm5er 3 engine swaps? All my vehicles have the original powertrains in them.

Correction. No other crossover can compete.

A durango is huge it is not a crossover its the same size as a tahoe

@Speed Gate I have indeed and I have driven both. Plus I just replied with the specs to your other comment. Pretty much same size. Have you seen a Durango in person? Its UUGGEE

@@rb3tactical145 the Durango is not huge.

It is full size suv it has more towing capacity than Tahoe or Suburban. Might not be body on frame but it has more capacity. Those midsize suv are more comparable to minivans.

It‘s smaller next to a Tahoe or Expedition. A Ford Explorer has about the same size. I like the Durango a lot. Personally I am a V8 guy but I think they would get more sales if they offer the EcoDiesel in it too. Thought those all kill/poison themselves with the Emissions Stuff (mainly Exhaust Gas Return EGR) but met surprisingly many happy EcoDiesel Ram owners.

You wanna compare a Durango that tow 8700lbs to a palissade/telluride that tow 5000…. Why ?

@@akunamatata4266 That‘s why I like the Durango more then similar sized competitors except the maybe the german SUVs (Dodge still uses the older ML Platform if I’m not mistaken). Size wise, yes, i would compare the Durango not to a Tahoe or Ford Expedtition but more to the Explorer, Palisade and Telluride.

@@akunamatata4266 guess you are to ignorant to comprehend please move on to cartoons.

It's more of an engine/trans/turning test than a braking test. Although if there's a reasonable way to do it, it could be interesting to add before/after brake temps as part of the reporting. But yeah, better brakes could make up for (or might even be necessary because of) less capable engine braking. It also kind of begs the question of what could happen if higher gears are manually selected, but then if it's meant to test the vehicle instead of the driver, that could potentially introduce a substantial noise factor.

Hell cats are 6.2s

@@square348apple3 try reading it again but slowly

Always wonder that too

Well because the Durango is a mid size SUV that doesn't have the strudy components like in the RAM nor the 3.92:1 Axle ratio plus the output is overkill for the unibody chassis, (a true body on frame Durango would make more sense)

Often times there's some aggressive incentives with Durango's. But the 66 grand Is getting up there. But every manufacturer is hiking prices too

$2000.00 of that is for the Rear DVD intertainment system. Another $1000.00 is a couple pieces of carbon fiber interior trim. If not needed. The price to value starts making more sense. His test vehicle was optioned out.

You have to start with an awd RT which is $45.7k on build n price. If all you do is add the $5k tow n go you’re at $50k.

Massive depreciation, Durango's are nutso priced. Go buy a 2007 for 1200$, I bet tows almost the same.

@Akira S I guess some people just refuse to live in today’s market. It’s not that I don’t agree with you, I about passed out when buying my 2021 F350 a few weeks ago. However, I remember when a gallon of gas was $1.00 as well. Nothing we can do about it except complain I guess which is most people’s go to reaction today. We sure get a lot of nice features though too. My new favorite is being able to see what my load inside the trailer looks like right on the dash. The 10 speed transmission, 1050 lbft and heated and cooled seats aren’t too bad either.

...yeah, looked like it could have grabbed another gear up hill as well, 4500 rpm was up there. I've driven that same pass numerous times, you do get an effect with elevation but that rpm still seemed excessive for the whole climb.

That's cause the new oil is thinner than water

A quality *conventional motor oil will tolerate oil sump temperatures of up to 250 degrees, but starts breaking down over 275 degrees. 293 degrees, if accurate, is concerning.

@@glenparks5175 true but more than anything it seems like it is lacking an effective oil cooler especially with the coolant only being 230

Yea sounds like they didnt do there homework little bit bigger oil cooler would have helped, I know my 06 ram Cummins has got coolers out the but, and I rarely ever seen anything overheating towing from coast to coast

@@gardenparty3288 fully synthetic oils will handle that

I can't speak for other makes, but the Chrysler cruise controls automatically work the brakes for you in these situations.

My sentiments exactly. I sounds beautiful on short jaunts, but if you're doing a cross-country in the saddle all day, it will quickly become tiresome.

Its a 5.7L if you're referring to the engine displacement. 4.7 is 9 years retired

Andre, have you thought about this? I believe this is true. The can won't register under 4.7mpg.

Honestly probably not a lot different. There's no real cooling in place for the oil except for what bleeds through the block and heads.

Maybe try watching the video?

would be nice but given how things have been going with the automobile industry, I have my doubts as to whether the model will continue as anything recognizable. That said, though, with a new Dakota on the way maybe there will be a new generation soon returning to its roots as a variant thereof. That could potentially be really cool. The only other mid-size-truck-derived SUV worth mentioning that I can think of is the 4Runner. The Ford Explorer and Chevy Blazer are more minivan, IMHO, based on platforms with FWD unibody sedan heritage rather than pickup truck (which I'll give FCA some credit for... even when they started basing the Durango on a unibody chassis, it was longitudinal engined RWD/4x4 chassis and not FWD-bias AWD. It never would have gotten a Hemi if it had been a prettied up Grand Caravan underneath. Market spoke on that and the Dodge Journey simply didn't last)

1200

@@TnTTyler nope

@TnTTyler show me, I know for a fact you see wrong, otherwise I would own one, biggest disappointment with tow and go

@@TnTTyler "Though the 3.09 gearing is somewhat mild, the Tow ‘n Go is a potent hauler."

It's available at Transwest.com/frederick - dry weight is around 4,000 lbs.

There is the TRX.

watching car reviews

We have a full synthetic mobile one oil witch is good for it like if we are in the hot weather or like towing it can take extreme heat

Conventional oil starts to break down above 250*F-275*F. But modern synthetic oils easily take 350*F and above. As full synthetic 5w-20 oil is readily available for under $3/qt., running synthetic oil when heavy towing in the mountains is a no-brainer. Also the hemi's likes to be hot. It was designed that way

@@paulj9821 back in 2005 it was the most advanced v8 back then and it still is the best v8 to tow

I'm glad to see this comment. I just got a '22 TnG to yank m,y 5400lb (dry) Mini Lite around, and everyone everywhere is acting like I'm death waiting to happen to the entire population. Would be happy to hear any pointers if you have them to share.

Coolant temp. Not oil temp. That will cause the issue with valve seats. Don’t over heat the engine. Oil temp wise I would try and keep it blow 270 degrees. Used to canyon race a 5.7 hemi and the oil temp would get up to 285 degrees. Never had issue and the car was sold with 235k miles on it, all original drive tran.

When you get into the packages and interior upgrades on the ram it gets well north of the Durango price. I have a 2016 Ram sport that I just tried to replace. Like for like, with a few minor changes (rambox, new trail gate...) and the truck had a $70k msrp. I opted to keep my ol,d truck and possibly get a Durango tow n go instead.

@@bnrlabs5923 Well, I didn't get the Ram box. Don't need it and the Durango doesn't have one either. If you need to go to the top of the line, pricewise the sky is the limit. I bought the Bighorn with LED package, bedliner, rear step and running boards, 4x4 5.7 with 3:92. Well South of $50,000.

@@TheNewenglandboys The Bighorn and the RT w/ Tow-n-Go aren't really apples:apples IMO.

@@bnrlabs5923 Thats true. That said, the Ram is more versatile in my opinion. I don't see much that the tow & go can do that the Ram can't. But I can see uses for the Ram that the tow & go can't do. My point was that the tow & go is just priced far beyond it's worth. Again, just my opinion

@@TheNewenglandboys everyone is entitled to be wrong ;) :P I have a 2016 Ram now. Things like easier parking, lower overall size, covered/lockable cargo area, etc. are all advantages to an SUV over a truck. I have no intention of making use of the full towing capacity of the T&G package. The things that would make it worthwhile to me are other aspects. you're basically getting the "black" package, plus IMO better tires, better brakes, better suspension, a brake controller, and the noise cancelling which are all enticing to me. Of course, I'd have to find one in-stock in Destroyer Grey somewhere to even be able to buy it. 'round here they don't like AWD on dealer lots and the T&G is only available in AED (something most salesmen don't even seem to know) Bottom line, I'd drive a $50k 2021 Durango all day long but wouldn't want a $50k 2021 Ram 1500.

That’s actually a good idea. To see how much the trailer actually effects it.

my 2014 ram does the same thing when towing my boat. Set the cruise and it will down shift to control overspeed.

Gravity only cares about weight and using a standardized trailer that allows adjustment in weight easily gives an overall fair showing. IMO

@@larrybe2900 A TT is a giant wall being pulled through the air. A 7k pound enclosed utility trailer is drastically different than a 7k pound TT.

how wide is your travel trailer? how long? hitch wt,? how many people, in the Durango ? dogs?water tank full ?, and towing is not a race I alway's say take 10-15% off what the tow guides show get it going need to stop it tacoma show 6500 good Luck with that its more of a 5000 lb same with the ranger gladiator if the trailer is 7000 lb on the scale go with a heavy 5500-6600 truck

@@Network-Mike I agree. For testing, a utility trailer is a better choice to effectively vary weight demands. Wind won't get you a ticket either.

@@Network-Mike right? Best I can tell, Durango frontal area limit is 40sq feet. So that would rule out most any camper.

Agree, seems like both 345 hemi and 392 hemi runs hot especially during Ike. I have 2018 rt and I never let my oil temp go beyond 250. I love mopar but FCA should address the oil temp issue. 300f is just not acceptable at all.

The factory filled Pennzoil ultra platinum full synthetic provides plenty of protection at extreme temperatures. This is about the most extreme towing situation you could be in with that vehicle, in ordinary circumstances I see no issues

Conventional oil starts to break down above 250*F-275*F. But modern synthetic oils easily take 300*F and above. As full synthetic 5w-20 oil is readily available for under $3/qt., running synthetic oil when heavy towing in the mountains is a no-brainer. Also the hemi's likes to be hot. It was designed that way

From my point of view I am not worrying about the oil is breaking down, I am more worried about the engine wear when my oil temp is 300f. You guys mentioned hemi runs hot, but it shouldn't run hotter than x5 twin turbo v8 which the oil temp never exceed 240. To me runs hot means 250-260 but not 300. When operating temp is too high the bearing wears way faster.

@@yuzeyang8847 tow 7000lbs with that up the mountain and tell me what your oil temp is... My hemi Durango oil temp never exceeds 210 under normal driving conditions

13.40 min mark. trans temp 203

They showed it

Where did you hear this about the payload? 1200lbs just seems super safe to me considering the GVWR minus curb weight.

3.09 I believe

Zero drone. Its my wife's daily and she loves the exhaust.

It has 3:70 gears