Due South - 'Victoria's Secret' Ending

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14 жыл бұрын

'Due South' Moments - Series 1, Episode 21: 'Victoria's Secret - Part Two'

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@rentedrubbergloves
@rentedrubbergloves 2 жыл бұрын
I have never forgotten this scene and the power of it. 20+ years of countless TV shows and movies I’ve seen since then, and I can still remember every bit of this and the impact it had. What a show.
@brian4984
@brian4984 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, for me, this remains the most dramatic scene I've seen on TV. I followed this show faithfully when it was new and was really distraught when it went off. Ray loved Frasier like a role model, brother. I used to think Ray shot him intentionally to keep him from throwing his life away for Victoria, his only kryptonite.
@downtime86stars17
@downtime86stars17 4 жыл бұрын
This episode was from almost 20 years ago and it still rips my heart out. Time for a DVD binge this weekend.
@missmolly5129
@missmolly5129 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best scenes ever. One of the first times my heart broke. Benton Fraser, one of the best characters in the history of television. My role model.
@apban
@apban 11 жыл бұрын
i was 9yrs old when I first saw the episode, this ending had me in floods of tears, i was devestated. when i bought the box set a few yrs ago and did a due south marathon I had to skip this episode but it was too much
@HHForeman
@HHForeman 13 жыл бұрын
This was definately my favorite storyline of the series. Heart wrenching.
@stevenredpath9332
@stevenredpath9332 Жыл бұрын
Due South was an amazing series with so many out standing moments. It deserves a lot more recognition than it has had since it stopped.
@lvsarmy2012
@lvsarmy2012 4 жыл бұрын
This scene gives me goosebumps even after 20 odd yrs!!
@JonGorga
@JonGorga 10 жыл бұрын
My god, when he starts running... Amazing scene.
@bobpage6597
@bobpage6597 2 жыл бұрын
I consider the Victoria's Secret episodes as a turning point for Fraser. Up to that time in the series Benton had always appeared pretty much infallible, nothing could assail him. Yet we suddenly see him displaying normal emotion, love, regret, sorrow all mingling with Victoria. We see him vulnerable to a woman for the first time, and it nearly gets him killed.
@annochkaLondon
@annochkaLondon 5 ай бұрын
My God, it is still here... Revisiting this scene after 13 years now here in KZfaq!
@jirihuf
@jirihuf 5 жыл бұрын
This must be the most romantic scene in the history of the film industry.
@tokarukoro8196
@tokarukoro8196 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too.
@dinkmartini3236
@dinkmartini3236 3 жыл бұрын
Concur, Jiri Huf. Concur.
@fionamadge3893
@fionamadge3893 2 жыл бұрын
It's ok if she's a criminal and your whole life is about catching them as long she's hot
@sophiabright8371
@sophiabright8371 2 ай бұрын
It just SHOOK ME then, and will never leave me!!!! ❤❤❤
@andreraymond6860
@andreraymond6860 8 жыл бұрын
My favorite scene in the whole series. Poignant. In retrospect the music may be mixed a little too loud, but still captivating all these years later. What a season finale!
@Eiger6
@Eiger6 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this scene. "And I should have let you go."
@ryderstrong3899
@ryderstrong3899 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about Due South this week and this scene and the Sarah M music in the Victoria episodes stand out. Such an awesome show!
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb 11 ай бұрын
This is the best moment in Due South
@sapphireblue8930
@sapphireblue8930 9 жыл бұрын
The only woman he ever truly loved....
@kurthandrews6206
@kurthandrews6206 4 ай бұрын
Tears. Everytime.
@kuryamtl
@kuryamtl 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this and my heart broke
@missmolly5129
@missmolly5129 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Superb nevertheless.
@saltyoddball550
@saltyoddball550 Жыл бұрын
Well I didn't know I needed a good cry tonight, but here we are
@BigMac8000
@BigMac8000 2 жыл бұрын
This scene profoundly changed my life having been exposed to it at a young age. Goodness, morality, and love - they will never mix. Love by its very nature is meant to challenge, and render asunder, entire constructs of civilization. While civility, morality, and bastions of goodness like loyalty, honor and responsibility are hallowed ideals that exist in cold, empty temples of immutable fact... love is real, and it will supercede them. They are meant to stand hollow in the places they need to be, as the people wonder to them, between them, and ultimately far away from them - because you can't "live" there. You can only embody them temporarily, or at best, construct a monument to them. When it matters you will always be human, and love will betray all these ideas. And it's fucking worth it, like nothing else is. So you must run headlong into the gaping jaws of fate, knowing full well there's teeth meant to rake your soul to ribbons. When you find love you must run at it, lose teeth, gain scars, and it very well might betray and kill you. It isn't an illusion of danger but an intrinsic reality. In my life I perhaps took to mean that inevitable ruin was intrinsically inseperable - and I erred on that fact leaning heavily towards it... but it was better to do so with those expectations than to live with even a modicum of doubt that love wasn't savage beyond rational meaning. As Benton laid on that cold cement, likely scuffed from the roll, bleeding from a bullet in the back and the additional tears from the fall, out of uniform for some of the first times in life - having led a perfect life of virtue, it was all rendered meaningless. "I should be with her" Was his only regret. Not just because he loved her, and wanted to be with her, but because a pious life of righteousness made him believe in her despite her undeniable criminality. Despite the fact that she'd committed crimes unequivocally, that she'd shot Deifenbacher likely in self defense due to his vigilance against guns - a fact he likely only knew only in his heart (that we didn't see, as to let our own prejudices against that moment fill in the blanks in an unkindly light). This same prejudice existing in his partner, and friend, put a gun in her hand and a bullet in Benton's back. And his only regret is, "I should be with her". All the greatest virtue there is, comes from love. The cold empty hallowed halls of the temples of loyalty, honor, and virtue have no purpose without those to roam their halls... for those to cherish them... and for those to share them with others. The greatest virtue on display here isn't just love - but that Benton knew he needed to be with her, but also acknowledged he needed, after a lifetime of servitude to these ideals, that they were one in the same... and saving her, and loving her, were one in the same. So when he said he should be with her, it wasn't just for love - but for love of it... all. He'd been running to this moment his entire life. Running. The red uniform is missing here, him knowing she couldn't understand it for what it was - but the red he wears symbolizes his connection to his mother and his father, as much as his duty... but he leaves it behind to tell her that his love, right now, is of greater importance. Such a simple flag to wear, that red, that vermillion, but so misunderstood. And he sees his father now, clearly, near death himself, realizing that though his father was absent, and he felt and saw his own distant mother's pain personally, he realized that distance... that obsession with duty... like the now growing distance, rapidly growing, between himself and Victoria... were necessarily brutal. That we must serve both at the cost of our lives, because our lives are nothing but currency in which to purchase the privilege of these things. His father was distant - but his spirit always there, knowing that the distance between two people is an inevitable fact of a savage love, too dangerous to hold too close... for long. So you run at love, and at brick walls, after trains, you travel, you go places you'd never go, do things you'd never do, endure shame, endure humiliation, endure prejudice, and when finally death itself bars you it must be the least of your concerns. You must have at it with callous disregard so pure it blinks. I never forgot these characters, or this depiction of love. I've had my fair share of trains, planes, near-missed busses, near criminal events (near), shame, mistakes, slaps in the face, misunderstandings, of leaving behind and being left, of running into moments of disaster headlong assured almost certainly of their foreboding possibilities, of scars, of actual broken ankles, of broken hearts that didn't belong to me and some that did, all directly resulting from the self-destructive desire to prioritize love, and by extension, its hallowed duties, above myself and personal being because the TRUTH was that IS your only being. Perhaps a touch too vigilant, perhaps, of confusing dangerous obsession with romance, but I'd never dare even dial it back even one degree. It was all necessary for even the chances that diligence brought with them. Maybe the tragedy of Benton is he had to take a bullet and you don't actually have to, as upon finding real truest love it's shockingly simple by then, and possibly even easier if one weren't so desperate for it... the result of those many moments cutting away you and leaving behind truths to build foundations might not need be so savage... But here I am, reminding myself every so often, because its never stopped ringing true enough. I've been showing my wif this show, slowly, letting her take in every episode - which is a tough sell these days, as it is tough to believe in such moral goodness in the wake of modern banality (a minor tragedy in exchange for the greatest length of relative world peace ever in our long history in the world)... and she's approaching this episode very soon. I wonder if she'll think me silly for believing in something so savage, or see truths within truths I missed here... and the ironies she knows in my life that run so similar to this moment. Perhaps she will see the alignment of duty and romance in a way she had never understood from me. She's roughly aware of all this but hasn't seemed to understand it yet, so perhaps this one's for only to me to understand, her own secret being wholly different. Maybe Victoria's Secret is only useful for helping me align my being. We'll see. But I won't stop running in any event, towards catastrophy. All the more dangerous, all the more opportunity to find something "real". Someone "real". I'll never forget this show, and I will make sure it's not forgotten. I look forward to hearing her secrets, as Benton was comforted by as he lay dying, remembered her secret as dearly as his own life. I never forgot it - not because it was important and it stuck, but because I came back and reminded myself whenever I felt it was fading. Such is the wonders of real art, that it persists... like love despite its savage nature. "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap we esteem too lightly. It is dearness only that gives everything its value." -Thomas Payne. In context, Benton's grandmother recited this despite her own savage tragedies for love... and no doubt another reason pursued this path at his peril. I hope these things, in your own unique way, words, and meaning, were as clear to you as they were to me... or will be.
@pebblehay8412
@pebblehay8412 2 жыл бұрын
TL;DR
@JustMe-ec2ph
@JustMe-ec2ph Жыл бұрын
@@pebblehay8412 I'm not knocking you for not wanting to read it and you certainly had the right to let the poster know but I think it was well written and probably others that did enjoy taking time to read it. This person could be a gifted writer if they aren't already. As for me I didn't even like these Victoria's Secret episodes but I know most people did/do so I just accept the fact the everyone is different on what they like and don't like 😊 I did enjoy watching the other episodes.
@louisehine1
@louisehine1 4 жыл бұрын
Still makes me cry.
@CaitSithDubh
@CaitSithDubh Жыл бұрын
To me, when I was young and romantic in so many ways, this was perfect television. Not great or extraordinary. Perfect. It shaped ideas that I had.
@Dignified32
@Dignified32 3 жыл бұрын
When I die, this scene will brush my memory...it is so intense, almost spiritual.
@Teckno77
@Teckno77 Жыл бұрын
Poor Fraser, loved this show so much.
@douggeyer416
@douggeyer416 2 жыл бұрын
"He's reciting a poem." Indeed. What she did years before, in a snowstorm, as he saved her then.
@jychilly
@jychilly 21 күн бұрын
Yes, it's implied to be the same poem. The poem in question, by the way, is "The Windhover" by Gerard Manley Hopkins.
@lukenukem2441
@lukenukem2441 3 жыл бұрын
20 years later still kills me
@IceBreaker1881
@IceBreaker1881 3 жыл бұрын
Best. Love story. EVER!
@JaimeGirl
@JaimeGirl 2 жыл бұрын
I would have done the same thing- right down the line. You can’t choose who your heart goes to. And the poignancy of his father being there at the end, after warning him-wow
@pauthomp
@pauthomp 3 жыл бұрын
The ecstasy of love takes us out of ourselves- for better or for worse
@TheRagingbull4136
@TheRagingbull4136 4 жыл бұрын
I still wonder where she went after, if she even found out that Benton was still alive.
@BigMac8000
@BigMac8000 3 жыл бұрын
You can figure it out, if you really want to. "A man with no future will return to his past". Benton says this whilst chasing a fugitive. She has no future - her sister's identity is burned, she's got no money, no chance to escape. There's an unknown party looking for diamonds that she appropriated from them. That train to New York? It'll be intercepted by the police unless she gets off it before then. She'll have to jump while it's in motion, so inevitably she's hurt, cold, and back in the snow. She says in this episode she's always liked where it's warm, but that's not where she's going to go - at least not ultimately. She may go there, only to find her options limited, but regardless of where she goes in the meantime, in the end, her destination is predetermined. No she'll go where she's meant to go - where she intended to go all along. Frasers father's cabin was burned, with 10,000 inside it. Jolly did this searching for the money, but missed it. It wasn't Victoria. She'd intended for him to be there after she got out but Fraser wasn't there. She obviously went to visit him, with money in tow, only to find he'd set out for Chicago. She hid some of the money there. That's what started this whole mess - she wanted to get him back. It's why she lets him take the gun so readily, as wild as Victoria is, she never lied about her feelings for Benton. It's hard to analyze exactly her path - diefenbacher's injury came from a misunderstanding - she needed the .38 to protect herself from Jolly, but Dief didn't understand that, so while that moment is heinous it was never meant to hurt benton. She meant for them to be together. They ended up together at Fortitude Pass, which is where they'll always meet symbolically. When all is said and done, Benton will retire and, with no future, HE will return to his past with his ghosts settled and his duty fulfilled. Back to the site of the cabin to rebuild. He's already up north doing so at the end of the series, and when his adventures are complete, he'll have nowhere to go but home. And where the burnt cabin should be, will likely be a new one, with candles in the windows every night, and a poor woman struggling to survive - likely having adopted an Inuit way of living off the land, unable to return to the society she never belonged in. It's not warmest down south - it's warmest where you belong. If you take what you know from the show, you'll know that's the only place it could possibly be. She might go back to Alaska, where she's from - but to me, her past was most encapsulated when she went to that empty cabin and he was off fulfilling his duty. That's her real past. That's where she's going. Might take her a while to get there, but that's where she's going... and she'll be waiting for him there, in the cold, again. Just as before. Benton once said he felt as if he'd known her for a thousand years. He, in some way, knows this - but while his ghosts haunt him and his future is his duty, he'll never himself go until it's fulfilled. But he always came to see, eventually, even if it takes him a while. That's where she is, and that's what happened, nothing can convince me otherwise. Mounties always get their man - in her case, well, he'll get her too. "I should be with her." It'll take him a while to realize it, because he can't think about home now - only when he finally has to face the idea of home, will he realize it's there. Or the dope'll walk up to the place holding a lot of lumber. Either way - he'll find his way there when his Mountie days are over.
@emanuelezenari2897
@emanuelezenari2897 8 жыл бұрын
if there are 15545 view..15000 are mine
@gingerginger17
@gingerginger17 3 жыл бұрын
Mother.... masterpiece 🥇
@koperkuba
@koperkuba 2 жыл бұрын
I watched last 2 episodes so many times that i can recreate dialogs:)
@JaimeGirl
@JaimeGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Laying there, feeling all of the regret of a choice once made, knowing that you were dying from another choice you made that would destroy your partner and friend, and knowing you’d never see her again😢
@Slapdash1
@Slapdash1 7 ай бұрын
What we seem to overlook is that Fraser CRACKS here. He chooses to join her. But for a stray bullet he would have become an outlaw. After all the sh!t she put him through he STILL gives up all the law-abiding stuff to join her. And that is both a scary and a sad prospect. Imagine Fraser woriking against the law. He'd run circles around them.
@annochkaLondon
@annochkaLondon 5 ай бұрын
Indeed!... Thanks bro
@insomnimac8368
@insomnimac8368 5 ай бұрын
He choose not to regret letting her go. It's not a crack. Frasier wouldn't survive without his morality, it's a cherished artifact of a lifelong creed he's nothing without. He'd wither into a husk if he became an outlaw. He even begs to wear the red outfit on the show because he wants to remind himself that loving is part of the duty - it's why he insists on the red instead of the standard uniform. Going after Victoria Metcalf was the road to true understanding, she's the white whale of a truly moral person. Benton's mother lived to be wild and he knew what it meant - it meant she would be cursed to be misunderstood, neglected and unappreciated. The conversation in front of the cantina says it all, listen to it very carefully. He knew what chasing after Victoria meant. But it's a long, long road to true outlaw. The trick is if you pay very close attention to Victoria's character, she's not an outlaw either. That's what makes it so star-gazingly messed up. Reconciling duty and love is impossible, and he knows it, but he'll keep trying because the trying is all you get. Love is a savage thing. That's how it was for his parents before him - a never ending battle of reconciliation. His father gave his mother a traffic ticket while in the car with her. *and she wanted him to* You watch this enough times you really see the truth in it. Victoria is forced into being a getaway driver by the bank robbers - this makes her an accessory to a felony. Benton forces her to be brought in, because she tries to run - but the circumstances of that are dubious. She gets on a plane with bank robbers and money, but they've been shown to be violent and prone to surprise attacks in cars. The bank robber, when they meet again says, "Come to your senses have you" meaning he's glad to see her back in the drivers seat - he's totally unaware she intends to kill him this time. He thinks the sensible thing to do is be his driver. When she discusses the murder with Benton he asks her to lie subtly - say it was self defense. It's technically true she felt imminent danger but she also knows that's not the letter of the law. Victoria refuses to compromise, she wants to tell the truth - she doesn't take the cowards way and play dumb and innocent. When the law comes for her before, for the bank robbery charge, she hired an expensive lawyer - but it fails, because the other robbers are caught and they implicate her. What Victoria Metcalf is guilty of is running from violence and *not getting away from it*. Ethically speaking, she's a wild mess of unfortunate circumstances mixed with a slow building disdain for running. She fakes her death, but only because she can no longer "live" in any kind of normal life. She takes the money to Benton's cabin, but he's not there. She buries it there, but then burns it down, because she can't reconcile what happened with her feelings - but incidentally, she's also burning the money. She can't bring herself to spend it. They don't track her using it, but they track Benton - but subtly, she only uses it to ensnare Benton. The other criminal has followed her there and he has his part of the original stash of the money - he's spreading it around, but it's attributed to Victoria during the investigation scenes as, "Money spread around the area". Given how clever she is, it doesn't fit her MO to be leaving a trail - but the criminal feathers the prospect that she was spending the money. She frames benton for the same crimes she was incarcerated for - being an accessory to felonies. The diamond deal is obviously messed up, but forcing him to be a mule is exactly what got her into trouble in the first place. She forces him by implicating his friends legally - but he could've just said "no". Did Victoria's sister die in a car wreck randomly? Burned into oblivion randomly? Or was she killed, because the bank robbers extorted her now, as they did in the past, to manipulate Victoria? Someone trying to force a car to stop can cause car crashes especially if the person driving *has no idea who's chasing them* or *knows exactly how dangerous the people chasing her are*. Meanwhile how exactly does Victoria know where to find Diamonds in chicago? Was her sister a victim or something else? ... and round and round it goes. The police arrived and confused Victoria, she might not have even lied - they totally believed it was Victoria because they wanted her to crash and burn. Can you imagine that moment? It paints an ugly picture if you hear men talking about being glad that you're dead and burned and then be asked to identify the body. Can you imagine the scorn they must have brought to not identify the bodies correctly? But Benton knows, he really does, that she's a good person deep, deep down. That's because his mother was much the same way... and the relationship with his father highlighted this. He sees it. He can't explain it in entirety, but the ambiguity is there. Dief's a special case. Dief doesn't like guns. We've seen him attack people with guns before on the show. Meanwhile Victoria knows the other bank robber is close. He's literally in eyeshot. She needs the gun. Dief barks first, and growls - and presumably attacks. He doesn't like guns and will attack if he sees them being wielded. She raises the gun, he reacts, she shoots him - self defense. He is a wolf after all. But Benton knows this, he hasn't inferred it - he likely thinks it was the bank robbers first but then slowly comes to realize the truth of the matter. ... what Benton is chasing isn't just Victoria and love, it's also morality. "I should have let you go". He's not just saying that because he's in love, he's saying that because he knows it's true. She needs to run. She can't be here, she can't live here, and she can't explain away her circumstances. Ethically speaking she was totally screwed before she even makes an appearance on the show. She can't, and won't, apologize for her life - it's why she knows, by heart, a poem about freedom. Victoria despite it all is actually entirely a victim of circumstance - running, staying and fighting, it doesn't matter. She gets caught anytime she stays still, she gets caught when she runs - and her sister gets caught too. You have to really, truly, put yourself in Victoria Metcalf's shoes to figure it all out, but the show doesn't explain it all. They give you the facts but you have to play detective here - her path doesn't make sense unless you really let the hurt, horror and circumstance play out. But Benton does. He sees it clear as day. He breaks a few laws himself in the pursuit of this (kicking down a door, grabbing a taxi driver) because he's feeling the frustration in it. She made him see it. His urge to chase her is as strong as her need to flee - and they're both right to.
@insomnimac8368
@insomnimac8368 5 ай бұрын
The moment Victoria starts screaming, "That's not my bag" she's not lying. She is trying to get rid of that bag by giving it to a police officer. Sure, she's somewhat framed Ray, but she *knows* Benton can find that key if he really cares about her, and he does. He sees it because she feels the same way about Snow that he does. He's not always a genius detective - he just couldn't resist staring at the snow in the globe. She's returning the money. ... and by doing so, she's lost *her* pack. This begins a spiral because she's feeling as she did before, except this time she's without her pack. She takes a shot at the police in the train hallway, and yes, that's illegal as can be - but that's because there's no reconciling her circumstances at this point. She's accepted being an outlaw but this is 10+ years after the system has ground her down and she nearly died in the wilderness trying to run. She ran so far, so fast, she nearly outran Benton in the wild, it was so bad he lost his pack trying to chase her. Can you IMAGINE how far she had to go to outrun that man so much he lost his pack in the canadian bush? His home turf? I'm not gonna make excuses for taking two wild shots at officers in uniform, that'd be ridiculous, but highlight that this is the first major crime she's committed and it's out of sheer terror, because it can't be that Benton both found the key AND is coming to send her back to jail again. She's also been attacked several times in the last weeks, PTSD is a hell of a thing - not forgiving or making excuses, but adding context. She's in total shock, because not only did Benton switch the keys, conceal it, and call the police - but he also found that key, which means he absolutely thinks about *HER* the same way she thinks about him. We see this from Benton's perspective but from Victoria's, the love / hate turnaround here is shocking. We've seen montages of them in the snow, but all from Benton's perspective - that snow globe is the embodiment of her seeing that too. Then not only did she get through to him and he's conducted an illegal diamond trade... but he also has the gall to stick to his morality and is showing, unequivocally, he's sick and tired of the same games. He's planted evidence here, which isn't clean, but he's also returning a key to someone who lost it at a friends house. This isn't him cracking. This is him almost figuring it all out. Slowly methodically unraveling the horror. Trying to be someone just rather than someone who hides behind ethics. That's a HARD thing, but morals and ethics will always be at odds with humans. That churn is always dark. You also can't reconcile love and duty, his father and mother show that - but you can, for a while, manage to live with it. Victoria is the only criminal he can't catch because she's *not* a criminal. She doesn't think like just a criminal or act like one - she's just not ever going to fit ethically because the world sucks. The system cannot handle Victoria Metcalf, who refuses to bow before it - and in that way she's not an outlaw. And there's no way to fix that - but Benton's gonna try until it kills him because it's *worth it*. What Victoria Metcalf represents is far more than Benton's greatest love or an Irene Addler clone or a femme fatale. She represents someone super moral trying to reconcile life from the other side of morality. Somebody who society isn't built for and can't reconcile. When she was dying in the snow she recited a poem about freedom, it was going to be her last breath - the right to be proud. So be careful judging Benton here. He was after something "more". The trail went cold while he was in the hospital but he'd never stop. If you want the real subtlety, examine the conversation at the cantina again and pay close attention. Benton's father brings a coat despite it being almost summer. He laughs about it. Why did his ghost bring the coat? Because Benton, in the past, staked a lean-to to keep him and Victoria alive. He took off... his uniform... and used his gun to keep them both warm enough to survive. His father is bringing Benton a coat, because it's going to get colder - and because he's going to bleed out on a train station ramp in a few short hours. Benton takes a sturdier coat than his uniform to the meetup with Victoria, which is useful when he has to jump out a window and when his partner puts a bullet through him and he falls off a train onto pavement. And his father shows up on the line, in uniform without the coat. Message sent, message received. His father nods to Benton very slightly and keeps his hand on his heart. When benton describes his mother, paraphrasing he says these things. "Angry, Frightened, Brave, Petty". His father says, "She was a brave woman, she deserved better" and Benton retorts "No, she deserved YOU". If there was ever a woman that needed a policeman who believed in her it was Victoria Metcalf. It's even in her name. A metcalf is, "a calf fattened up for eating". She was innocent, she's losing her mind, and she needed help. More than anyone Benton's ever met or will ever meet. She's not a victim anymore, she's become the aggressor, but he sees why. Right down the line he sees why. Where was he at her hearing? Her trial? Her internment? He couldn't face her then, he said so himself. He didn't fight for her and he didn't get her appeals. Did he ever even ask if she did it and why? He's too afraid to ask that and so he goes to a priest instead. In his mind she was guilty but we never truly *know* why she did any of it. She asked him how he could do it to her and he doesn't reply - but instead he grabs her then, but he can't explain "why" he does what he does any better than she can. When Benton's having fries and talking to his father, Benton explains that Victoria's situation was desperate - she lived with the bank robber and the conflict was embroiled. The father says not to judge, that's the judges job, just bring her in - but also, his father says, "It's your fault". He makes a crack about it being about his hat, which is clipped, but it also is getting him thinking - it's symbolic. He didn't finish the job and thus, his father isn't talking with a complete hat. The wheels turning. He shouldn't have brought her in - because by doing so, it robbed her of any opportunity for her to turn herself in or to fix her situation before doing so. Why'd she keep the money? Likely because her sister was in danger. Once she's in the system, it was over for her. "The police didn't even know her name" Benton says. Benton was the only one who knew who she was and instead of helping her, he put her in prison. In the snow, Benton says he lost his pack. When he tells the story, he says, "We found it". If he couldn't find it before, he only found it because Victoria COULD find it when he couldn't... or that it took both of them. ... they would've found a way together. That's "Fortitude pass" for you. That's where they meet. ... and when Ray's bullet went through Benton, she couldn't face Benton the way Benton couldn't face her in prison. She can't face him because she nearly got him killed twice. She stays away this time because she loves him. This wasn't a crack.
@insomnimac8368
@insomnimac8368 5 ай бұрын
Benton's coming together for the first time in his life and he was never more focused on doing the right thing - it's just oh so much harder when it's also the best kind of love you'll ever find. He couldn't believe in it because the best things in life are brutally difficult to just, "let happen". He was afraid of her. He was afraid of what she represented, which made his life's work seem feeble by comparison to how big life can be. It's why he's reciting her poem even bloody, broken and betrayed. It's how he can remember it with a bullet through him. She's right. It's better to be free. They're the same. He finally sees it upon the doorstep of dying. You can't reconcile love and duty - they will never be the same. Is it to love dutifully or is it dutiful to love? They might be both beautiful things but they'll never meet wholly. Just flirt. Like a bird on the wind. Is the bird flying or is the wind carrying it? Does it matter? That's the freedom. Love and Duty are the same, they aren't different. He finally accepts that. His father isn't wearing his hat when he's with him. He's taken it off out of respect. Benton's right this time. Just nobody else knows it. Not even *us*. Not unless we're looking as closely as he is. He really does know her - right down to where she keeps her keys and how someone who praises hawks might miss a sleight of hand that obvious. Keep your eyes open on this one, it's not easy to see but it's there. It's easy to default on the idea of justice and forget it is meant to serve people - and people are wonderfully complex. If you're willing to really truly "see" it's there. If you read the poem, note, "O my Chevalier". That's a french term for a knight - which is as close as can be to Benton. She was talking about *him* the first time - and the 2nd time, he's fitting the last stanza. "Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermillion". She tried to warn him and he finally realized it... because she didn't want *him* to die out there because of her. She was warning him then that while this display of chivalry is glorious it will fall and gash him. And now that he's finally there, he's realizing *why* she said it. That virtue was always there but he couldn't see it then - he chased it, but he hadn't found it until he was bleeding out on that train platform. He didn't regret it. She was right. Even there bleeding out - it was the right thing. You chase after morality, you never truly achieve it - that's the dream. It's no less glorious when you crash upon the rocks of it... and she loved him even then. He really sees it now. It's hard for us to, but you have to look very carefully at it. But it's there. It doesn't draw attention to itself or apologize or spell it out - but it's there. If you're looking. Just like a falcon. An unassuming glory hiding right up in the sky to be seen by anyone looking up, not down. ... such a great show.
@lorettashepherd.
@lorettashepherd. 4 ай бұрын
​@@insomnimac8368beautifully said
@MalcolmCooks
@MalcolmCooks 3 жыл бұрын
thats got to be the longest train platform I've ever seen
@lukenukem2441
@lukenukem2441 3 жыл бұрын
Holy jesus, that one thing "com. 20 years and 2 divorces and I still don't know
@Harmon1ca
@Harmon1ca 11 жыл бұрын
It's "The Windhover" by Gerard Manley Hopkins.
@user-op1qb7fn5w
@user-op1qb7fn5w Жыл бұрын
О Боже! До сих пір обожнюю цей серіал, Пола Гросса, цю сцену і, звичайн, Девіда Марчіано! І завжди буду любити! І щоразу дивлюся по тв, хоча і по інтернету теж.
@MrVity01
@MrVity01 5 жыл бұрын
Piano sheet music anyone?
@jennforget2089
@jennforget2089 Ай бұрын
ray shot him on purpose to protect him
@ADF-Fact-Checking
@ADF-Fact-Checking 7 жыл бұрын
Somewhere I read a girl wrote Victoria can save Ben from his perfection. I think she was right
@Samhain08
@Samhain08 14 жыл бұрын
My favorite episode of the series.
@alexissweet5890
@alexissweet5890 20 сағат бұрын
Wasn't the music different? I thought this was the scene that turned me onto Sarah Mclaughlin. Maybe I'm thinking of another show with a similar scene...
@boltonkevin
@boltonkevin Жыл бұрын
I hate that this series got cancelled and this storyline was not revisited. Maybe it is perfect in that it was never seen again though. He can’t be with her without leaving everything he believes behind. It could never be resolved other than how it was resolved here so it would just be rewriting this story.
@charles6835
@charles6835 12 жыл бұрын
wow
@richardcavell-clarke8928
@richardcavell-clarke8928 3 жыл бұрын
This would of been an amazing ending to season one if letting go wasn’t the last episode
@amypedley7474
@amypedley7474 4 жыл бұрын
He chose her so romantic n ended in poo.
@kathyguinto4585
@kathyguinto4585 Жыл бұрын
Was this Melina Kanakaredes?.John Guinto
@amypedley7474
@amypedley7474 4 жыл бұрын
The one scene that hurt the most in this was when the old lady asked for help n he never did that’s not Bennie she changed him
@pauthomp
@pauthomp 3 жыл бұрын
For me the story showed how love can drive us out of our mind and take us to a place in ourselves that we did not know
@paulcrisp9861
@paulcrisp9861 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauthomp Victoria was a bad influence on BENTON but I guess that's what love can do. DUE SOUTH FOREVER Feb 2021🙏❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤🙏
@pauthomp
@pauthomp 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulcrisp9861 yes indeed she was and indeed it does, no guessing.. but wonder the effect have had on herself...
@paulcrisp9861
@paulcrisp9861 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauthomp what were his intentions running after the train? Would he have gone with her but then again she had a gun, would she really have shot him i wonder? 👍👍😎😎👍👍
@pauthomp
@pauthomp 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulcrisp9861 I watched that clip endlessly... and am not sure at all... in the replay from close up she seemed to be stretching out her hand , the reflecting lights giving impression of a gun hence Ray’s shot .. I recently again watched the next episode and seemed to me that he was going with her...he felt unable to do anything else...”La Belle Dame Sans Merci “ ...[Keats]
@alexemmerson58
@alexemmerson58 10 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the poem he was reciting?
@redmilo92
@redmilo92 9 жыл бұрын
The Windhover home.hiwaay.net/~warydbom/duesouth/windhover.htm
@andrewmartin9550
@andrewmartin9550 2 жыл бұрын
It's "The Windhover" by Gerard Manley Hopkins.
@user-op1qb7fn5w
@user-op1qb7fn5w Жыл бұрын
Якби ж то ще виклали в нормальному перекладі повністю Бодетаун- місто на кордоні, а то в оригіналі ще не осилила.
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