I played this back in the 80's and 90s and yep, its the same game. I like it, but I feel it clashes with a lot of modern board game sensibilities. It's unforgiving and I enjoy it for that, but its a game that needs resilience and maturity from its players. Its definitely one that can be derailed by someone having a sulk, in a similar way to diplomacy or Game of Thrones. Any modern games you can think of that have this sort of brutality in them?

There are lengthy videos on KZfaq about this game that say less than you do in 3 minutes. Bravo!

I've been meaning to play Dune for a few years now. The thing that always appealed to me the most was the very unique "rule breaking" various factions do. And the crazy combos players can do if they ally with one another, since allies get benefits of both factions.

Had some really memorable moments playing Dune at six player, especially with a Bene Gessert prediction win. But I love the books, movies, mini series and pc game. It is very thematic to the extent if you don’t know it, it probably isn’t as enjoyable. With the original coming out in 79 some of the concepts were quite revolutionary

I gotta say, I *LOVE* the redesign by Ilya77. So happy they hired him of all people to make this commercial version.

Put it simple no lag no drag of extra crap straight up in how to play. You're one of the best in the few out there that actually explained board games are very well! Aaaand Subscribed!

Also, forgot to mention that Gale Force nine are an NZ owned company. So Aotearoa represent! The vid should have the "promoting NZ gaming tag" on it.

basically, this game is realistically unforgiving. there are no god's rules protecting you just like in real life. if you fuck up you lose everything as you should, although sometimes it can feel unfair because how where you supposed to predict that you also know that everyone else has the same problem, and every time you play again you will have more and more strategies more tactics and more predicting to prevent chaos. basically, Dune is a game that gets better every time you play it. it's literally like this: Beginning: You are all new recruits in command of an entire nation in an unforgiving world, you don't know many of the dangers and the tactics to survive, everyone has to test things out possibly losing it all. 2nd game: You now have some knowledge of what happens in the world, you no longer get tricked by the simples traps and tricks, but you are still unprepared and not good at managing your resources and your actions 3rd game: You probably spent most of your days thinking of tactics to use in-game that you can't wait to use, you saw many things and yet you know there are a lot more things to see, you finally know how to move in the world although not with perfection. 10th game: You are an incredible veteran, you learned how to move and survive this cruel and dangerous world, you know the tricks and the traps of your enemies and the world itself, you know how to move and avoid danger as much as possible you have tactics from the past and the present that prepare you for many possibilities, you know what can happen and have an idea of what could happen of new. you are a true veteran, and yet you still aren't safe.

I used to play this in the early eighties. I wasn't a big fan of it, but a lot of my friends were, so I played. It's amazing how balanced it is considering the asymmetry. A great game (just not to my taste).

I giggled harshly at 0:14. THE QUEEN IS NOT AMUSED!

The advanced rules make the game much better, but also much more complicated. It is a brutal game regardless, but I would love for an overhaul of the rules to make it more streamlined.

You did a seriously GREAT review here. So much info and so well presented. It's been a great pointer video for getting people into the game. Thank you.

Still my favorite game of all time. No game I’ve played creates more memorable moments which you tell stories about years later. Yes it’s brutal. Yes it’s dated. but those are virtues in today’s marketplace of games that hold your hand. Few games prepare you for reading board state like Dune. And that’s why all hobbyists should play it semi-regularly A war of whispers is also fantastic because it foes 75% of Dune in about 75 minutes. An elegant game. A Game of Thrones is good but it suffers from a lack of real theme because of a lack of asymmetry I really like the GoT version of Cosmic Encounter more. The Iron Throne

I read the review for this game back in the 80s in the Avalon Hill "general" magazine. it looked interesting but I just wasn't that much into sci-fi in those days (that hasn't changed much). I played the new version of this game just 4-5 weeks ago and kept saying "I know this game", in the end I was right. Because I knew the core mechanics and some of the strategies I thought I had an advantage (I was the Emperor), but after two armies were eaten by sandworms and another two were annihilated by traitors and unlucky weapon combos I was effectively out of the game. Definitely a game that would require multiple plays to work out the best strategy ! All in all I would give this game a definite two thumbs up, the updated graphics really bring this old warhorse up to the state of the art.

I love the sharing of responsibilities the different players have. Wish more semi-competetive games had that sort of feature.

Oh man, what I would give to play it. This is one of those you really need all the players for the theme! Just like twilight imperium. But to convince anyone and finding the day to play it is a challenge by itself.

It was great fun playing this with you.

Fantastic game overview in just a few minutes...the spice must flow

I love this game, although there is something that feels so bad about losing everything and then having to partake in a game that could go on for hours.

I find with Dune, if ONE person is into the theme, it's almost enough, It took a lot to get them to play, but once I did they thoroughly enjoyed it, despite never having read all watched Dune.

I too played this game back in the 80s and 90s. Great stuff , love this game and concept. It is unfortunately one of those games nobody around here will play with me because they consider it too complex...... I do not think it is that bad no more complex than Scythe really but, people get all intimidated. Still good stuff, good review!

Do you have any games that have this level of asimetric powers and rule breaking by different factions?

Being an avid book and movie fan of Dune, I bought it as soon as I saw the reboot for it. I have no memory of the game back in the 80's, weird. Now, if I could just find 5 people who want to play this as much as me.

Nice review!

And how can this be?? For he IS the Kwisatz Hederach!

I really want to track down a copy of a war of whispers. It sounds so amazing!

The Great books and Great game !!!

Some of the mechanics in this game reminded me of a personal favorite of mine (from what little I know), Cosmic Encounters. It's on Tabletop Simulator, and I would love to hear your opinions if you played it, as I'm a beginner and I don't know if it's actually good or just novel to me.

Fun fact. Fantasy Flight did a reskin of this. Twilight Imperium Rex: Final Days of an Empire.

Who has the shield in the battle phase overview?

Any thoughts on player count? I keep hearing that it's only worth playing at 5 or 6. But it claims to work for 3 and 4... What's your experience been?

What about Rex? How is it comparing them? Wich one is better?

So I'm asking wherever I can: What's the consensus on The Emperor's "sharing his wealth" ruling? Is it fluff text?

Wow, I did not believe you could review that game in 3 minutes.

3:33 Ok, I will not enjoy Dune. Good to know. (Seriously though, your talent for cutting to the pertinent info for me in short order is uncanny, this channel is a godsend sometimes)

So you can win or loose simply on one play, with no forgiving? Sounds a lot like real life. For me Dune was & still is Boardgames Holy Grail.

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How would you compare it with Rex? If somebody already owns Rex, would you reccomend switching?

I'm a huge Dune fan, but probably won't get the game for exactly the cons you listed off. Look gorgeous, sounds like it be fun to try once, but can't imagine having it on my shelf any reasons beyond the art and my love of the theme.

If I had playgroup of 6 who are into long complex games I'd rather play TI, this is too clunky even tho I prefer Dune's theme.

Do you think allowing players to go off and have secret discussions would add value to a play session, or make it worse? I'm talking like a scheduled 5 minute break and people can plot and scheme to their desire.

This game is less and less fun the fewer players there are.

Dune is a fantastic game but the biggest roadblock is trying to get enough players

dune vs dune imperium?

It was always a brutal game. The only problem was finding 6 players. It never worked properly with less

I know you far prefer the theme of Dune, having mentioned such in previous videos, but how do the mechanics compare to Rex: Final Days of an Empire? How different are they? Did Rex "fix" or change anything significant when they modernized the design (by 2012 standards)? I've never been able to get a straight answer from anyone online, all I ever get is "DUNE 4EVERRR" from the nostalgia crowd. I feel like you, as a level-headed reviewer, can actually provide a solid answer even considering your love of the Dune setting. Cheers on a great video and actually managing to condense relevant information about this monster of a game into 4 minutes. Edit: ah crap I just found that someone else already asked this. Oh well. Cheers anyhow.

When we will get a new PC Dune game? In the 90s I enjoyed this real-time strategy game.

Not a fan of the new graphics for "players", "play time" and "complexity". There's too much information at once on the screen. On first viewing by the time I knew which part of the screen you were talking about you had already moved on.