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The Secret Race of D&D Goblins Nobody Talks About

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Dungeon Dad

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@DungeonDad
@DungeonDad Ай бұрын
What monster is next?
@nickh3205
@nickh3205 Ай бұрын
What about the Scro from Spelljammer, or the Inevitables?
@commanderblackheart5856
@commanderblackheart5856 Ай бұрын
Chances are you already know my suggestion.
@mr.saltman1055
@mr.saltman1055 Ай бұрын
i'd still like to know about the living nebula from old spelljammer you mentioned once
@goobiac8826
@goobiac8826 Ай бұрын
Do a funny little guy next 🙂
@screwedupcivic2285
@screwedupcivic2285 Ай бұрын
Tremors= Graboid and shrinker ?? There some 3.5 status...would be a kool video.
@nulllex0099
@nulllex0099 Ай бұрын
I'd say Dekanter goblins are even more ignored, but if we're gonna play that card, Varags definitely get the honour of being the most forgotten, ignored gobbokin to exist
@thebeast1793
@thebeast1793 Ай бұрын
@nulllex0099 what book are the Dekanter goblins in?
@pancake885
@pancake885 Ай бұрын
​@@thebeast1793 in the forgotten realms wiki they appear in novels and a videogame No book so far
@jamesc.1026
@jamesc.1026 Ай бұрын
​@@thebeast1793Monsters of Faerûn, p53
@jamesc.1026
@jamesc.1026 Ай бұрын
Maybe we could get a goblinoids mini-series like there is for the old dragons?
@Desiremademanifest
@Desiremademanifest Ай бұрын
@@pancake885 Races of Faerun for 3.5 and an entry in the Monsters of Faerun monster manual addon for 3.0
@JohanFaerie
@JohanFaerie Ай бұрын
Big fan of Vril joining the Duragar as part of the "Screw the Drow" club, but still not happy about helping anyone else either
@johannesstephanusroos4969
@johannesstephanusroos4969 Ай бұрын
Duergar*, FFS 😢
@BigFrakkinOgre
@BigFrakkinOgre Ай бұрын
And here I've been thinking i got a misprinted Drow of the Underdark all these years. Thanks for the intel
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Ай бұрын
They're ALL misprints, it's hilarious. And wizards took down the errata
@user-hs1xb9tv6e
@user-hs1xb9tv6e Ай бұрын
I see the drow took a page from the mind flayers's book and as expacted, it backfired horribly as well.
@gmanbo
@gmanbo Ай бұрын
Just about right...
@mrmuffins951
@mrmuffins951 Ай бұрын
They also seem to have taken a page from Dungeon Dad’s book. The stat block in particular
@goblinuniversity
@goblinuniversity Ай бұрын
Silly drow! You can't improve perfection. Or goblins, but just look around, there are so many of us. You'll probably find what you're looking for.
@The79yeti
@The79yeti Ай бұрын
My favorite goblinoid is the Blue from the Psionic Handbook. This Vril kind is pretty awesome.
@Axioanarchist
@Axioanarchist Ай бұрын
I thought that was what this was going to be at first
@diobrando9842
@diobrando9842 Ай бұрын
oh the mind goblin
@whyareyoulookingatthis236
@whyareyoulookingatthis236 Ай бұрын
I am absolutely loving what youve done with the opening, and how the show has evolved over the years
@DungeonDad
@DungeonDad Ай бұрын
Thanks! I know you’ve been around for awhile, so you’ve seen me learn how to edit in real time lol
@soultron4238
@soultron4238 Ай бұрын
The sheer love and nerdy joy that went into John Vril’s tweet says everything there is to say about how fucking awesome this channel is. Dungeon Dad = Pure Platinum
@augustelos
@augustelos Ай бұрын
In Forgotten Relms there is a variation of Goblin called the Dekantor Goblin that is stronger, smarter and has a more bestial face with a rhinoceros horn on its snout. In Pathfinder there is a variation of Wikkawak, which is a "Snow Bugbear". These two are forgotten and deserved a Monster of The Week.
@RoryRose_
@RoryRose_ Ай бұрын
they look so artificial grape flavoured i wanna eat one
@forgottennutsyo4278
@forgottennutsyo4278 Ай бұрын
A very Laios coded response. 😂
@Malcadon
@Malcadon Ай бұрын
Suggestion: The Thoul They are vary obscure, underutilized, and deserves some love. They are the product of mad sorcery, being a hybrid of hobgoblin, troll and ghoul, possessing paralyzing touch and regeneration. Much like the Vril with Goblins, they have an odd relationship with Hobgoblins. While they are great for catching unknowing players flatfooted, they can make for a lot of role-playing and world-building opportunities if they can be given more limelight to develop.
@902496
@902496 Ай бұрын
Therapist: "Vril Krenko doesn't exist, he can't hurt you"
@harrymusson7266
@harrymusson7266 Ай бұрын
Love these!! The best way to throw off veteran players who think goblins are a simple one-hit is to send a nilbog into their camp. Total chaos and such an underutilised creature. Love these types of videos DD. Expanding on the simple stuff to make ordinary encounters interesting is so amazing
@zacharyweaver276
@zacharyweaver276 Ай бұрын
Was so excited when I saw this guy in an upcoming video. These are my favorite goblinoid but I could never find any good hombrew for their monster statblock
@vileluca
@vileluca Ай бұрын
"Forced to toil and die for a society you're not welcomed in" As a millennial that hits too close to home.
@DungeonDad
@DungeonDad Ай бұрын
Word
@holmd90
@holmd90 Ай бұрын
How about you put down that participation trophy and pick up your bootstraps?!?! But actually how are we supposed to survive this society we are bound to?
@josephgeorge5741
@josephgeorge5741 Ай бұрын
​@@holmd90It rhymes with evolution.
@holmd90
@holmd90 Ай бұрын
@@josephgeorge5741 fair fair
@zachhanks4399
@zachhanks4399 Ай бұрын
@@josephgeorge5741”Have ablution?”
@Astra_the_dragon_uwu
@Astra_the_dragon_uwu Ай бұрын
support your local llibraries, museums, and universities! they do amazing archiving work that helps save media that would be lost.
@TheDrumMajor
@TheDrumMajor Ай бұрын
DEEP ROCK GALACTIC MENTIONED! ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE!
@Niklmon
@Niklmon Ай бұрын
FOR ROCK AND STONE!
@duckluck3755
@duckluck3755 Ай бұрын
ROCK, AND, STOOOOOONNEEE!!!
@teamtea1967
@teamtea1967 Ай бұрын
DID I HEAR ROCK AND STONE?
@seaniepop
@seaniepop Ай бұрын
WHEN YOU ROCK AND STONE, YOU'RE NEVER ALONE!
@bryceaustin4995
@bryceaustin4995 Ай бұрын
ROCK AND STONE!
@philurbaniak1811
@philurbaniak1811 Ай бұрын
👍👍 And I think about eleven thousand years later the Vril have become the Gith and the Drow have become the Illithid 🙂
@NerdImmersion
@NerdImmersion Ай бұрын
Vril in the thumbnail? Let's go!
@honestkyn718
@honestkyn718 Ай бұрын
Grom campains in total war taught me the best way was to collect food and feed it to them for wacky effects.
@fanusobscurus4309
@fanusobscurus4309 Ай бұрын
"Sweet boy he was..."
@worldbigfootcentral3933
@worldbigfootcentral3933 Ай бұрын
Vril was a secret society in WWII Germany, so I must conclude they were created as a secret weapon.
@j2minerblacksands881
@j2minerblacksands881 Ай бұрын
The problem with most goblins in pop-culture nowadays is that they are not treated seriously, they are the comic relief in most media, and if they are not they are treated as just another type of humanoid. I will always put out the flavor text from Magic: the gathering's 2010's Goblin Chieftain as what goblins should be/treated as “We are goblinkind, heirs to the mountain empires of chieftains past. Rest is death to us, and arson is our call to war.” They should be a threat, a equal and opposite to the dwarfs, where the Dwarfs have smithing and stubbornness the goblins have numbers and cunning, where dwarfs have great ancient kingdoms that are slowly falling goblins have numerus clans that are broken & created all the time.
@nulllex0099
@nulllex0099 Ай бұрын
Thank you! Finally someone to also point out the wasted potential of this "existence hierarchy" where dragons and liches and such are invariably fearsome monsters, and things like goblins are invariably vermin. Give us pathetic dragons and fearsome gobbos!
@j2minerblacksands881
@j2minerblacksands881 Ай бұрын
@@nulllex0099 I think the problem is that a lot of the 'smaller' monsters races (Goblins, Kobolds, Rat folk, etc.) are all trying to fit the same niche, weak when alone but overwhelming in numbers with there 'cleverness' making up for that. Either have one of them that you can designate as the 'main' and make them the main thereat, or try to flesh the 'small monster races' out from one another in other ways so that they are distinct at a glance, such as emphasizing the kobolds dragon worship more or the rat folks scavenging from the goblin's Trible society's.
@zachraynor7008
@zachraynor7008 Ай бұрын
Goblin slayer anime? The paladin anime? Alot of media still uses them proper
@katierosen1990
@katierosen1990 Ай бұрын
Your videos are always awesome! So, re: the Drow, I fell into an interesting Forgotten Realms rabbit hole earlier regarding the Jaezred Chaulssin, and a unique kind of half-shadow dragon drow called a zekyl. There's a lot of cool lore there, and just so many names with apostrophes.
@josefinameyer7183
@josefinameyer7183 Ай бұрын
I got an idea for a plothook! As poison was used to subjugate the Grill, maybe a sect of them are killing all the toxic creatures in a certain area to... I'll give some examples bellow. But! The players need one of those toxic creactures for a potion or the creatures have a toxin that the BBEG is susceptible to! Leading to a confrontation were they could negotiate, sneak or fight to get access to the creatures! So, I thought of some possibilities for why the Vrill would risk confrontations with creatures that attack in ways they are vulnerable to: - to cut off supply lines that Drow need to make the poisons they use to subjugate them. - to collect the poisons to make antidotes or resistance potions, or simply collecting the poison to develop natrual resistance to it through small repeated doses, like some allergy treatments - because they see any poison as an affront to nature in a religious sense, because of their history as being subjugated by poisons. (That last one could be a Player character motivation too, I think.)
@17joren
@17joren Ай бұрын
That is funny, I ran short 6-sesh underdark campaign a while ago that featured vrill and the kuatoa leviathan, and here you are giving them to us back to back!
@King_CactusVods
@King_CactusVods Ай бұрын
Vrill and Bugbear become friends and each one has a buddy-cop dynamic assigned at birth
@koboldlord
@koboldlord Ай бұрын
I love my Vril. Always use them in my homebrew setting. Thanks for shedding light on these bat boys!
@potatolord6726
@potatolord6726 Ай бұрын
i love your videos! planning on running a one shot all about goblins in 3 days so this came out right when i was doing some research!
@DungeonDad
@DungeonDad Ай бұрын
Thanks! Also that’s perfect, the stars have aligned!
@BenjaminRegen
@BenjaminRegen Ай бұрын
It wasn't coincidence. The Vril have been planning this allll along
@TheHauntedMouth
@TheHauntedMouth Ай бұрын
I got about 10 straight minutes of enjoyment from your inclusion of a 1 second clip of the Cheddar Goblin from Mandy.
@caarthikraj8184
@caarthikraj8184 Ай бұрын
I wasn't planning on including underdark creatures in my campaign, but now I'm definitely going to find a way to incorporate the Vrill. Purple bat goblins are just too good
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
This is your reminder that goblinoids actually came from the Feywilds, that may make them easier to work into the story because when in doubt its Fey shenanigans
@Galvamel
@Galvamel Ай бұрын
I think it would make an interesting twist to have the Vril trying to gain favor with a god/goddess of good. Eilistraee comes to mind, or maybe one of the Dwarven gods. "After being used by the Drow, dying at the hands of Orcs, and then being turned into canon fodder by the Goblin god the Vril decide to make all the Underdark their enemy."
@austinrutledge7531
@austinrutledge7531 25 күн бұрын
I could see them going with Eilistraee SPECIFICALLY to stick it to the Drow.
@joelolson9046
@joelolson9046 Ай бұрын
Seriously, great job on this video! this is one of my favorites for sure that you’ve made in recent times. Always impressed how you continue to one up yourself!
@NoOne-nm4ng
@NoOne-nm4ng Ай бұрын
I know PC options are a bit more work but I’d love to see more. I wish we’d get more monstrous races for 5e.
@pyrosinugami
@pyrosinugami Ай бұрын
I have a feeling that end up being Mercenaries serving all of the different factions may be equally while being their own masters
@zacharyweaver276
@zacharyweaver276 Ай бұрын
I figured the vril always worshipped Magubliyet because of their goblin ancestors worshiping him. Maybe he even helped them escape enslavement when he saw they'd be useful to him. Now they're in the underdark pestering the drow and growing their numbers. Personally I think they'd rank beneath hobgoblins because they're smaller and hobgoblins can move around on the surface without issues and are thus a more useful soldier there whereas vril can be used in the underdark for guiding goblinoid forces and acting as assassins
@H3xx99
@H3xx99 Ай бұрын
I'm just imagining a Grung Monk hearing about these guys and just grinning his head off in manic glee...
@kriseinspahr5822
@kriseinspahr5822 11 сағат бұрын
I just recently read through this book and spent 20 minutes looking for this stat block. Thank you for confirming I'm not insane
@mrmuffins951
@mrmuffins951 Ай бұрын
These are my favorite videos of yours! The monster of the week that focuses on a new/old sub-type of creature like a new dragon, giant, golem, genie or in this case goblinoid. Great video! I also really appreciate you making all the stat blocks and game mechanics free.
@drew-horst
@drew-horst Ай бұрын
Sick intro, idk why it took almost 2 weeks for this vid to pop in my feed
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell Ай бұрын
Goblins are really just the d&d evolution of the celtic legendary "red cap". Which has appeared in the editions for decades. Imo these are the goblins that never get discussed. Great video though! Thank you for your effort!
@Arcko9
@Arcko9 Ай бұрын
Long time user of Dekanter and Gibberlings, love these little guys too. Who says goblins can't be terrifying? ^.^
@mitchhaelann9215
@mitchhaelann9215 Ай бұрын
Huh. I'd forgotten about them. I should definitely revisit an old adventure idea I had decades ago. work them into the backstory. Way back in 3e I came up with a 'team build' that would allow a group of 3+ 'Blues' (psionic goblins) and one or more regular goblins (if they were necromancers) to essentially tie their souls together in a knot and prevent it from leaving the Prime Material plane, while becoming a very minor demigod. Wrote a whole adventure about these breakaway goblins building their own goblin utopia in rejection of Maglubiyet, turning instead to ancestor worship and every one of their number joining The Council as a prime-bound ghost telepathically linked to the collective after they die. With goblin breeding patterns augmented by basic sanitation and a lack of petty infighting, they rapidly gained souls and power until they were in the minor leagues of deities, but Mags couldn't do anything since they were on the prime, and knew how to fight goblins better than regular goblins. Suddenly there's a neo-rome filled with shintoist goblins on the border of an established human kingdom, and they're not just mud-splattered maggots throwing poo at each other, but a credible society, even minting their own coinage.
@Rayne_Storms
@Rayne_Storms Ай бұрын
I used these in an under dark arc a few years back, and they were so much fun! They became a great reoccurring problem for my party.
@anthonyd.1428
@anthonyd.1428 Ай бұрын
One day I hope to see the Ondonti orcs make a reappearance. They were the pacifist branch of orc, who had cleric spells.
@Turn140
@Turn140 Ай бұрын
Nice! Friends wanted to put together a goblin party, we have a goblin, bugbear and hobgoblin. Thank you for giving us a 4th!
@vedrisca
@vedrisca Ай бұрын
Frost men / frost folk. They have the stat block of a monster, but have historical ties to the little-known Sossal (and the Sossrim who hail from that nation) and darker powers that be. Information is so scarce that learning more about the Sossrim (which in of itself is spread out across many books and articles) is the only way to infer the history and habits of the Frost Men and Frost Folk.
@ajayjackson7089
@ajayjackson7089 Ай бұрын
From the thumbnail, I thought this was gonna be a Mind Goblin episode.
@demonsquidgod
@demonsquidgod Ай бұрын
Mind goblin these nuts!
@Golnax
@Golnax Ай бұрын
I am of the opinion that goblins are one of, if not the most, dangerous low level CR monsters on hand if used correctly, so color ME thrilled to find out there's a new subrace that I can play around with which are specifically, and, amazingly, much more intelligent than your average goblin? Oh man, my players are never going to know what hit them when it comes time to unleash a goblin horde!
@HaughtyToast
@HaughtyToast 4 күн бұрын
There are also Bhukas, Dekanters, Norkers, and Blues. There used to be so many different goblins. The Norker does have a 5e statblock but its hidden away in Mordenkainen's Fiendish Folio with the crabfolk, mite, etc.
@burntruffles1556
@burntruffles1556 Ай бұрын
Immediately I’m imagining a character that’s like a fusion between Experiment 626 from Lilo and Stitch and Koba from Planet of the Apes.
@strawberriemars
@strawberriemars Ай бұрын
This video just helped me figure out what the journey of self discovery of my goblin barbarian is leading up to. Shunned from her tribe for reasons unknown (being annoying and "different"), she gravitatied toward the barbarian class (screaming when going into a rage and weilds a warpick), and is on the path of the zealot (in service of a (undecided but now maybe decidedl god). Plus I LOVE bats so. This is the perfect race for me. Thank you for bringing it to light (even if they're better suited for the dark xD)!
@robertguarino355
@robertguarino355 Ай бұрын
Omg I just found this channel and I'm bout to binge watch all of them
@user-nv1ys7vx8m
@user-nv1ys7vx8m 5 күн бұрын
I know you do monster of the week, but I can see the Virl being a race in DnD as well 😊
@KS-PNW
@KS-PNW Ай бұрын
Do these guys have any (cannon) connection to Goblin Blues? Blues were (if i remember correctly) first discussed in 1e as being random mutants that sometimes occur in goblin populations. Especially those in the underdark. While being even smaller and frailer than conventional goblins (described as the runts of a litter) they would rapidly develop psionic powers (or ingrained magic ala sorcerers) which made them useful enough that they'd be allowed to live unlike most unhealthy children in goblin society. I dont think they ever got stats until 3e (2e maybe?) but i always thought they were cool. From a homebrew perspective i could see maybe making them the root for these guys. Maybe the drow deliberately bred them for those genes? As always thanks for doing this, love your work!
@jasonrobertson9618
@jasonrobertson9618 Ай бұрын
Dungeon Dad for Kraken week confirmed! Woo!
@roxxieraepage2768
@roxxieraepage2768 4 күн бұрын
When I first clicked I thought this was going to either be the Blues (the psionic goblins) or the Bhuka (the peaceful desert goblins from Sandstorm). Defiantly even more gobbos need to be uncovered.
@Dark3Nesz
@Dark3Nesz Ай бұрын
Very cool ep, vampire bat vril would be my pick.
@TheHornedKing
@TheHornedKing Ай бұрын
I want a video about vampire muses. Feywild vampires who inspire artists, at the same time as they slowly drain their life away.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
Idk about draining their life, but remember hags are Fey, I would think it would be more like a clan of Fey who go around having fairies banquets that entrance the victims to live in revelry for all time, remember the fey also operate outside of time's normal flow, so the victims would live for lifetimes just to eventually be returned hundreds of years later once they are too old to be fed on anymore, the appearance of long lost persons decades or centuries later for even the shortest lived races
@TheHornedKing
@TheHornedKing Ай бұрын
@@ConstantChaos1 ... I'm sorry, but your comment almost feels like a non sequitur. Vampires muses are actual vampires. From the Feywild. Who inspire artists while draining their blood bit by bit. Some of this blood is put in a large cauldron that functions similar to a lich's phylactery.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
@@TheHornedKingthat's because the vampire muse was condemned for its un-Fey vibes, 4e trashed all existing lore, including cultural origins. Hence why I preposed a way to change the lore so it would fit with toril and not abeir. Part of the issue with 4th ed conversions is they literally dont fit in standard d&d.
@TheHornedKing
@TheHornedKing Ай бұрын
@@ConstantChaos1 Well I think they sound cool.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
@@TheHornedKing yeah they sound cool but dont fit the lore and the revisions to the Fey actually caused a scandal with pagan groups because it was rewriting part of their sacred history while using the names and likenesses of sacred spirits for profit. They sound really cool but without a lore change they are literally stuck in a different dimension (not even a diff plane) and cant cross into 5/5.5 lore, I mean they are fey so there is always the excuse of Fey shenanigans but still. The lore difference means it cant really be converted without remaking it 🤷‍♂️ I was just trying to provide a new option to make them fit with toril fey and actual origins of Fey lore.
@madcat1865
@madcat1865 Ай бұрын
I'm running Lost Mines of Phandelver and these guys are definitely making an appearance as Mind Flayer creations.
@DoomedPaladin
@DoomedPaladin Ай бұрын
Ah. I thought we were going to hear about Blues from the Psionics Handbook (/Expanded PA). Lots of races and race variants out there for you to make videos on too. Tibbits, Gloamings, Fey'ri (elven-tieflings), Tanarukk (orc-tieflings), Diopsid, Wolfen, etc. Looking forward to seeing what you cover next.
@mammonclarke
@mammonclarke Ай бұрын
So this is one of the best videos you've made. Lots of creative options and having another gonlin with a little higher CR is always welocme.
@danielbeanz8884
@danielbeanz8884 Ай бұрын
I thought it was going to be about mind goblins. Givin the vril's intelligence, i guess they could be mind goblins? Is that where the idea of vril came from?
@KonRoge11
@KonRoge11 28 күн бұрын
Lyssendrith, the main Big Bad Evil Satan God in my homebrew setting, thoroughly enjoys kicking (or rather, tail-whipping; she’s a mountain-sized Marilith, after all) Lolth in the shins, and stealing her favorite toys* through trickery is a favorite pastime for the Furnace-Serpent. I could totally see the Vril turning on the Drow to defect to Lyssendrith’s side in return for the smog-choked, SUNLESS skies of Condassa (the “Evil Continent”). Thank you for the idea, Dungeon Dad! Very cool! *read: the greatest advantages and champions of the Drow
@herny9045
@herny9045 Ай бұрын
Next time, you should cover my favorite sub-race of goblins. The mind goblin
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Ай бұрын
11:44 the story got funnier when 3,0 made Gruumsh go from Lawful to chaotic evil, because to fight Maglubiyet he's STILL on a Lawful-Lawful-Evil plane (Between pure law and Baator)
@rogerpellicano5340
@rogerpellicano5340 Ай бұрын
Another great video, more humanoid monsters are always fun! I have a player whose character is a hobgoblin prince and another campaign playing Out of the Abyss, so my mind is immediately racing with how can I add vril into those stories. Also, if you swap the climb speed for a fly speed, these things could make PERFECT batfolk. I'm sure there's plenty of fun stuff you could do there. Perhaps some kind of night stalking vigilante... his parents killed by drow so now he stalks the shadows to fight evil.
@SaddestClown
@SaddestClown Ай бұрын
Great channel, informative content, and engagibg delivery. I enthusiastically subscribed and am gonna deep dive this channel
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell Ай бұрын
Goblins in our new Kickstarter next yr are a cross between red caps & Vrill called "Mulkiers." And not something a DM can throw at a low level party! 😂
@insanehiker5587
@insanehiker5587 Ай бұрын
Nice to know of more goblins beyond the homebrew scene (okay the Dankwood Goblins exist too) too bad the Bhuka from "Sandstorm" aren't unique enough stat wise to make the cut for a video.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
Fun fact goblinoids came from the Fey wilds
@BGShadowSlay
@BGShadowSlay Ай бұрын
Personally i think we need a video about Variant Phoenixes. My brother had a scrip to Dragon magazine among others and he showed me the Autumn Phoenix. i heard there was like...half a dozen variants, but before he could show me the others his basement got flooded and the flood claimed his stash of 3rd party lore. not sure if you cover 3rd party stuff here but these need to be covered somewhere cause they were amazing.
@kdavidsmith1
@kdavidsmith1 Ай бұрын
I think Vrill are their own whole thing. They hate the Drow but also hold animosity toward all other goblinoids. Vrill would be highly territorial as well
@smuggoth
@smuggoth Ай бұрын
With goblinoids having joined the fae I like the idea of a faction of oath of ancients vril hunting mages in the underdark. Plus this would make it so this particular group can be friend or foe to the party.
@killer40122
@killer40122 Ай бұрын
I could see the vrill also joining up with the gnolls and worshiping yeenaguh
@based_mouse
@based_mouse Ай бұрын
there are a LOT of forgotten goblinoids that i wish would make a comeback. blues and varags are interesting parts of goblinoid society and the undead bonedrinkers were an interesting addition to the necromantic traditions of their shamans and such
@MrNetWraith
@MrNetWraith Ай бұрын
Great episode! Ever consider doing the Thouls? Starting out as a typo in the first printings of the White Box, they evolved into a race of hobgoblin/troll/ghoul hybrids, and they really have some interesting lore. I recommend checking out their 4e incarnation from Dragon issue #418, which drastically expanded upon the meagre lore from 2nd edition's Mystara Monstrous Compendium Appendix.
@entropic-decay
@entropic-decay Ай бұрын
My thought with regards to the Vril and the armies of the god of goblins is, they might end up at *the same* rank as the hobgoblins - but fulfilling different roles. the hobgoblins being more prone to and focused on direct assaults and strategies for full on battles, while the vril focus more on subterfuge, intelligence gathering, and generally lead relatively small groups on targeted attacks - say, on supply lines.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
I like the idea that they (or at least some) just fully leave the underdark and like go (back) to the Feywilds like naw we blend in here and they are having fun (for those who don't know goblins are actually derived from the fey)
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Ай бұрын
That was a fairly late addon. Their older origins were not. (Hell, this subspecies literally predates the *existence* of the Feywilds)
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
@@DIEGhostfish a couple things, the Fey existed before the feywilds my guy, also d&d does not pre-date Scandinavian and Celtic culture, d&d changed to better reflect its source materials. It also doesnt matter if it's a more recent change to lore because it's the official lore now... I guess what I'm saying is your comment is totally unnecessary since it is still the official lore and you're chronological comparison is a complete strawman since the Fey pre-date the goblins as a creator race even if they hadn't made their plane yet, them making the plane is literally what makes them a creator race so of course a species derived from them can pre-date the plane, I am my parents child even though they had me before they bought the house lmfao. Have a nice life my guy but clearly you're just here to be a tool so be on your way.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Ай бұрын
@@ConstantChaos1 Well that's quite a leap to condecension and argumentum-ad-Pinkerton. Pretty sure before this they were the creation of their pantheon that Maglubiet eventually conquered, (or a beastmen derivative in Mystara, or a few other origins. Older lore supercedes because it's a 3.5 critter.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Ай бұрын
@@DIEGhostfish you came here to be a d*ck so I'm just giving it back to you my guy. Also, no, d&d 3.5 is not older than european cultures. Also the origins of goblins was never provided since the pantheon got wiped, there never was a definitive, so they provided an origin that aligns with their mythic origins. You are arguing that the previously unknown origins cant be the official explanation we have finally gotten for something that wasnt known previously, the same one that matches the original pre-Christian myths. Also you literally tried to "correct" me to start our interaction and yet you claim I'm the one who jumped to condescension? I havent even been condescending yet lmfao. Now I said good day, have a nice life and f-off.
@ilyatepeyolotich6459
@ilyatepeyolotich6459 Ай бұрын
“But what if we…” “gave goblins a new twist? " I almost gaged
@evanvuohijoki
@evanvuohijoki Ай бұрын
Not sure how I feel about the race being balanced by a massive weakness. I feel like if you play this race your character will either die quickly or feel OP. I think this is because if people and creatures know about the weakness they will take advantage but if no one knows about the weakness (which can be the case because this race is unknown) this race will feel OP. Personally I would nerf the race overall and make the poison vulnerability be lessened, not gone just less detrimental. I love every other thing in this video though keep up the great work.
@WhisperingWisp357
@WhisperingWisp357 Ай бұрын
In my mind, a huge plot hook could be that they try to "Take in" the Kuo-Toa race. They use their higher intellect to slide into their society and become absolute rulers of it. Eventually they use the poison resistance of the fish-folk to their advantage, and finally use their God-making madness to craft a pantheon of their own to rival the gobliniod one. That would be their plan anyway.
@Fyre19
@Fyre19 Ай бұрын
Maybe the vrill won that civil war vs the hobs considering the hobs are now fae? they lost so bad they had to retreat into the faywild
@DungeonDad
@DungeonDad Ай бұрын
That’s actually interesting
@martinwhitmore
@martinwhitmore Ай бұрын
The Evangelion preview music at the end threw me for a loop.
@wiilov
@wiilov Ай бұрын
My favorite Goblins are from Artemis Fowl; Fire-controlling reptile-frog fey that tend to be gangers. Love it.
@maninalift
@maninalift Ай бұрын
Giving them a rock-splitting shriek and super sensitive ears seems like a cruel joke... but I guess this is the Drow, so that checks out.
@patdo777
@patdo777 Ай бұрын
ok my adventurers are exploring the underdark and not high level and more goblins are always welcome in my DM arsenal so this video is very welcome.
@allenkeith7160
@allenkeith7160 Ай бұрын
I can see the Vril worshipping one of the Drow Gods other than Lolth as they build their numbers for a war against the Drow. The Drow Pantheon is strange.
@cameronsydnor7330
@cameronsydnor7330 Ай бұрын
How’s this for a plothook: A group of Vril have emerged from the underdark into a swamp they are determined to claim as their new home. The residents of said swamp, the Grung, take umbrage with these strange goblins trying to claim their home and are fighting back, and clearly winning. All the while a Grung soldier and a Vril soldier have fallen in love. They are kept divided not only by their species waring with one another but also that they cannot physically touch one another. I would love to see how players would interact with this scenario.
@amphither1
@amphither1 Ай бұрын
How hecking DARE you reveal my favorite 3.5 goblinoid race to use as a player OR a dm like this 😂😂
@pjmisley
@pjmisley Ай бұрын
I'm diggin this one. I always admire your work but this one deserved a comment
@benthomason3307
@benthomason3307 Ай бұрын
WotC releasing a monster statblock without freaking stats has got to be the biggest Epic Fail since NASA launched a telescope with no lens (yes, that actually happened when they launched the Hubble telescope)
@ralphsexton8531
@ralphsexton8531 Ай бұрын
Funny thought if using these guys in Pathfinder 1e, you could have one that became an Alchemist. This would make him resistant or immune to poison, explaining how they broke away from the Drow...
@kelvinmilian4534
@kelvinmilian4534 Ай бұрын
"Lets talk about what they can do at the game table" Me: They're mechanics? Wow they -are- pretty smart.
@Bardigrade
@Bardigrade Ай бұрын
seeing the thumbnail, i thought it was some kind of psionic goblin. Like a Mind Goblin
@CamPhillips-ll5tk
@CamPhillips-ll5tk Ай бұрын
Hey love your work man
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos Ай бұрын
One goblin deity that remains free from their original pantheon is Kikanuti, someone who's story seems like she might be very happy to recruit some of the Vril into her fold.
@Jeremycook_
@Jeremycook_ Ай бұрын
I wonder how many editors had to pass the final draft that's missing a whole stat block. Well done WoTC
@drewforchic9083
@drewforchic9083 Ай бұрын
There are other forgotten subtypes of goblins out there as well. I like the Norker, because, well, just look at their face and you'll see why.
@blackguardunlimeted
@blackguardunlimeted Ай бұрын
love the plot hook ! keep it up !
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Ай бұрын
9:55 Ironically because of the way DR works in 3.5, being "Resistant to anything BUT the exception '--' meaning no exceptions" is the default, so in order to show resistance to ONLY slashing let's say. You had to list it as either "DR5 '--' vs slashing" Which is how the KotOR CRPG did it. Or "DR5, Bludgeoning and Piercing"
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