Dust Collection System Upgrade
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4 жыл бұрынIn this weeks video I cover the installation and design of my new 6” thin wall PVC central dust collection system. If you want to watch me install the Clear Cue Cyclones CV1800, go to my instagram page, and click on the “dust collector” highlighted story. bit.ly/alminsta
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@billhunt2086 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience, if you drop straight down to each tool (as in the example above), they each act as interceptor collecting bin (you've basically built a venturi port). Dust from the farthest tool can't jump that gap and ends up pooling in the adjacent tool drop. The trick is to have at least a short horizontal section at each fork, so dust heading to the collector doesn't have to jump across any down-pipes... cause it won't! A buddy of mine, who built his as shown above, has to now run around his shop, starting from the farthest tool, and open and close each gate to get the dust to hop from one tool drop to the next on the way to the collector!
@kevinwilliams2462 4 жыл бұрын
First, great video. Clear voice-over, simple camera angles, and very informative. Second, in my opinion people should start calling out the predatory companies like the one that tried to charge you triple of what another store charged you. Hell, mention them both so local folks know where to shop and where to avoid.
@dandugan824 4 жыл бұрын
Great mounting brackets! I'm going to need several when I get my dust collection build started. Nicely done!
@eamonconheady9855 4 жыл бұрын
Ah man this is a great install I’ve been putting mine in to my basement shop with low ceilings. It would be so nice to have this much headspace for routing pipes! Thanks for your show!
@Joeyjupiter123 4 жыл бұрын
Great job love the way you made the brackets it's like having a giant wet vac for the whole shop. Being that saw dust is flammable I would look into some fire prevention system just in case. Love you're shop.
@Marksmal 2 жыл бұрын
Really awesome system, really satisfying to watch it come together and work. I can't wait to have something like this in my factory one day
@danroscigno187 4 жыл бұрын
mounting that quick change to the wall is brilliant. No blast gate or cap needed, it never passes air until you pull it from the wall. Great idea, and I will do the same (setting up mine over the next couple weeks).
@ArmyVet76 4 жыл бұрын
Love the dust collection. Great job👍🏼
@JeffreyMoon1974 4 ай бұрын
I've given a lot of thought recently to updating the layout of my shop, including the addition of better dust collection. I have the Dust Right 650 wall-mounted with just the 4" expandable hose that I swap between tools. I'm watching this almost four years to the day you posted it, and this has given me some great ideas on a direction to take. Thank you!
@kevinsiscoe 4 жыл бұрын
Randomly came across this video. Well done! Love the humor, and the reccomendations!
@trailbuilderXC 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just built my own 810sqft shop for woodworking. I started with a cyclone dust collection for my shop vac. So so results. I have been think about a more polished functional dust collection system and your video has me inspired. Love the wooden brackets over metal strapping. Keep the videos coming. Subscribed.
@TwistedTwineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and great timing as we’re tackling dust collection in my shop this weekend!!
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Good luck!!
@Tibbon 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished building a 4" thin wall PVC system for my shop. Just using a 2hp HF collector, but it's a tiny shop and on a budget. Still feels awesome!
@TreeOfLifeWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Just installed my CV1800 over the weekend. Great unit
@drakanize 4 жыл бұрын
Looks so amazing and love the sweeping port
@smasica 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the sweeping port is the slickest part of the system, IMO.
@justinferdenzi8802 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive installation and great job running that pipe.
@dadygee 4 жыл бұрын
We live in a world with instant messages, we watch instructions seconds on our computers from across the globe.. But dust collection.. We still live in the stone age here in Sweden with our shopvacs and the old hose-impeller bag/filter bag.. Showed my cyclone for a 2" pipe to my dad and he couldnt belive his eyes.. It was like magic..
@imogen1 4 жыл бұрын
Having grown up pushing boards through table-saws with scraps, that little board pusher you have there is pretty neat.
@craigmonteforte1478 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet System and Install ! What a huge improvement nice work om all the Custom brackets
@EagleMacCassady 4 жыл бұрын
Nice system and not sure if anyone mentioned this, but when you use PVC for dust collection, you should ground the PVC, PVC is very prone to generating a static charge when air is moving along the inside of it, along with charged particles of wood and other debris. This static can build-up to the point where it arcs to ground unexpectedly. With the right combination of materials and oxygen levels, this can cause a dust fire or an explosion to occur.
@chrisjohnson6482 4 жыл бұрын
There are zero reported cases of this ever happening. This is an urban legend. At most you get a little shock when you touch the pipe.
@majstrujeme8352 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjohnson6482 I can confirm this is not urban legend. I do not know about USA but I have personally spoken to the electrical certification person that was part of explosion investigation. MDF dust especially is a problem. Small shops like this might get away with this but anything bigger like a 5 person shop will generate enough of static to be a potential problem. Ground it or use spiro metal tubing and groud that. I personally would use the adaptors reducers traps and go with metal spiro tubing. easy to ground no shocks fire proof.
@chrisjohnson6482 4 жыл бұрын
@@majstrujeme8352 hard to say what the causing factors were in that anecdotal third party telling of a tale. You cannot ground pvc even if you wanted to. And there would need to be a concentration of fine dust that is so thick you cannot see through it for it to be dense enough to combust. Plus again there are zero reported proven cases of it ever happening. That you heard about something like it happening maybe once doesn't concretely prove anything Then again, I am not here to tell you what to do in your own shop. If you want to wrap wire around your pvc and pretend you are "grounding" it be my guest
@majstrujeme8352 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjohnson6482 I would use metal round duct pipe and you are mistaking sawdust for MDF particles. It is not anecdotal. The plan is to test again in lab and possibly classify wood shops processing MDF as explosive area for electrical wiring. Because you didn't see it doesn't mean it's not real. I am perfectly aware that grounding PVC pipe does nothing. Unless you would completely wrap it in aluminum foil. I am not wood worker I am electrician that was at the electrical wiring safety board recert.
@chrisjohnson6482 4 жыл бұрын
@@majstrujeme8352 I meant any fine dust particles. Again there have been zero substantiated cases. But you should still feel free to do whatever you want to do
@HeathFluent 3 жыл бұрын
New woodworker here.... definitely taking notes!! Nice work! Thanks for all the content!
@scottallen606 4 жыл бұрын
Great review/system build. I’ve been brainstorming on how to set up something for my garage. I like this set up a lot. Thanks for sharing.
@kilomonk 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm going to use this idea to vent my four 3D printers with a central system.
@FigmentsMade 4 жыл бұрын
That is looking slick! Using the silicone tape for the seams is such a good idea. It looks so clean!
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sharon! Yeah that stuff is pretty perfect. I really didn’t want to cover the pipes in foil tape 😬
@JTWoodworks 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done man! That suction is incredibly powerful. Great job on the video too
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Johnny!
@poppasmurf63 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Informative without allot of fluff. Well shot, not too loud or too long for the content covered.
@weekendwarrior9570 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and process. You must love it when a plan comes together. Thanks for sharing. I will add this project to my wish list.
@bkp100 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice install, and great shop layout -- wish I had that much space. I built a 4" system last year (my vacuum could never handle 6" ducting), and, all the parts came from Rockler as well (I'm lucky to have one just a few miles away). I did find one issue with the 4" plastic blast gates, that you may or may not run into with the 6" version. On the gates that service the more heavily used equipment (table saw, universal port, chop saw) the dust would collect in the groove that the gate slides into. After a while the gate wouldn't close completely, and suction would suffer, so I'd be constantly cleaning out those grooves with a screwdriver, or awl... Finally, I replaced the plastic gates with metal, self-cleaning blast gates from Lee Valley. Pricier, but worth it to me. No more issues. Anyway, great video... enjoy the new system.
@HobbyGarageDIY 4 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! a really good job! congratulations!
@rksmith5273 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. Well executed, no waste of time and you actually showed the results with each of your machines. I appreciate that. I am trying to figure out how to set up a dust collection system in a new shop I am having built. It's a 50x60 workshop and my first project is dust collection. This video will help me with that project. Thank you for posting and you have earned another subscriber.
@itsjustmetomc4848 4 жыл бұрын
Real nice review and video my friend! Thanks for sharing. BTW, great looking setup for that dust collector too!
@throwback336 3 жыл бұрын
I just came across your channel. I love it! I'm taking one end of one of the buildings of the dairy farm I recently bought and turning it into my woodworking shop, 36' x 36'. (A guy needs a get-away.) I have questioned my dust collection from day one. I think you just answered it. Great job. I look forward to your content.
@CarpenterCore 3 жыл бұрын
It's Feb 2021 and I've been dealing with shortages of just about everything. I checked over a half dozen local plumbing pipe distributors and no one had 6" thin wall PVC. I finally found SDR 35 at a yard specializing in sewer and drain, mostly used for road construction. They had a great price too.
@jasongardner2894 4 жыл бұрын
Nice icepick shout-out Love it!
@lyudmilkisov4723 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Michael 👍 Very functional too 😃
@morganhurst_redridge 4 жыл бұрын
That cyclone system is very nice! I had the same issue on my sander, I just have a 4" blast gate that rests on top of the dust port and it collects pretty much all the dust.
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good to know! I’m going to have to do that
@mapleleafsrock13 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelAlm have you guys seen Colin Knecht's (WoodWorkWeb) dust collection upgrade for the oscillating spindle/belt sander? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gcujbKR5sb6dZoE.html
@davebauerart 4 жыл бұрын
Great install, it looks good and fits perfectly into your shop.
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@positiveaspect5730 7 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I've cut a lot of large PVC pipe on a table saw. The easiest way is to use a sled and a stop block. Push the sled and pipe into the blade and then rotate the pipe slowly with your fingers and you get a perfect 360 degree cut.
@ask_fornature4012 4 жыл бұрын
This gave me a lot of inspiration for my dust collection, thanks.
@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230 4 жыл бұрын
Great system. I wish I had the room for such a tall unit. I found for my bandsaw and drill press flexible drain pipe is great for getting the dust on the surface. I actually got one in silver instead of white for $5.00 on eBay. I made some homemade clamps to hold it in place and on the end that is closest to the workpiece is a small rectangle port that actually came with a vacuum cleaner. They do sell them though at Rockler if that is your go-to place.
@Selandry1 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice system! Thanks for posting.
@charis128 4 жыл бұрын
What a great job. Beautiful shop. Subscribed.
@michaelshinoda2080 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! It's awesome Michael!
@patrickretsel7048 3 жыл бұрын
Great job buddy, not seen to many 6” main track too often....looks awesome too..😎
@gregorybondi5220 4 жыл бұрын
I am so envious of your shop and this dust collection. Though I couldnt use it myself (handicapped), I know that I would if I could AND I know you are going to be very happy with it. Enjoy the extra time woodworking instead of raw cleaning!
@Darrell_Coquillette 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great setup. The shop is looking great!
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ericsimpson4045 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what is about this video but its so clean, precise and clear information. Very effecient! Thank you, a project I need to tackle👍🏻
@rendel5024 4 жыл бұрын
Love this, got something similar planned. Cheers from Australia
@joelegrand5903 4 жыл бұрын
Great build. I worked in a dry food plant, we had metal vacuum system from Hoffman, went to PVC system then back to metal.The biggest problem was static electricity, we solved that with sheet metal screws into the vacuum stream, then attached to copper wire & grounded on conduit or metal poles. The PVC pipe got holes in it much sooner the metal pipe, that the reason we went back to metal. That may not be a problem for you, because we had truck load of salt & sand like waste that cut/ground though the pipe. You have saw dust & wood chips, but I wanted to make you aware of the potential problems. I have never worked in a wood shop with PVC systems, all I worked in had no vacuum system or they had all metal. I am building a small shop for a friend on his farm & we will look at Rockler when we do.
4 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend. One of the most important systems of the workshops is dust collection. Dust and shavings are also a big problem in my workshop. Improving the dust collection system will create a comfortable workspace for you. Thank you for the system and information. Congratulations. Good ideas. Thank you for sharing. Warm hug. Great greetings....
@reddblurr 4 жыл бұрын
dude this is clean AF! good job and thanks for sharing!
@timbrundage8931 3 жыл бұрын
Great narrative on your installation. 👍🏻👍🏻
@SSBailey77845 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job. My old system used the thin wall 4” PVC pipe but I never figured the 6” would be so effective. It must be a volume thing 🧐 I’m with Katz Man…love that tape!
@viziondfc 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know how you don’t have more subscribers. This video was a great watch!
@geon1naz 2 жыл бұрын
To elevate the static buildup on the PVC, Buy a roll of #18 stranded bare wire and tie one end onto a tennis ball start your dust collection up then feed the tennis ball into the farthest end of your system and feed the wire as the ball travels through the system. When it come out the end at your collector tie the wire off to ground. this will drain off the static and keep your shop safe from fire.
@SEBTECHDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome dust collection system, i made a smaller dust collector cart for my small workshop but i wish to install a system like yours one day. Great video i just subscribed !! :)
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Electric_Snap 4 жыл бұрын
12:31 The silicone tape is the real hero here and looks like it came in handy.....quite handy indeed. Fantastic for re attachment of.. separate tissues. Its properties make it effortless due to the unique way in which it adheres to the human cells. Not only is it effective and inexpensive but its also sexy. The air cleaner was great too. Thank.
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
Great video bud. I wish I had known about that silicon tape when I did mine.
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Yeah that was a tip from someone on instagram, and he told me just in time. I really didn't want to foil tape it. See you at WBC?
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelAlm yeah. Come to my talk!
@ddaveeddd 3 жыл бұрын
same
@robbie6625 3 жыл бұрын
@@katzmosestools If only we knew then, what we know now... I'm guessing the conference didn't happen?
@Kkuts37 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice, Michael!
@michaelrichardson1367 4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel. Liked your new dust collection system. Hope to build one for my small shop someday.
@SteveC38 4 жыл бұрын
That came out really nice!
@jeffforbes3772 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation and really informative...thanks for posting.
@kraken509 4 жыл бұрын
I like the brackets you made much more then the ghetto nylon strapping I used with my clearvue ducting
@oldstudbuck3583 2 жыл бұрын
Your an artist/craftsman with everything you do.
@csimet Жыл бұрын
Nice job. I just finished my system... 6" main run to the center of my shop, a 6" to dual 4" y-pipe (came with my Grizzly) for sub-runs to my two main tool areas and then with blast gate controlled branches to each tool's flex hose final (4" and 2.5"). I used SDR 35 pipe and found the easiest way to cut it by drilling a small hole and using a jigsaw. SDR 35 pipe and fittings are so much cheaper than schedule 40... about half the cost. My system works great... Grizzly G0944 with an Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL (6" inlet/outlet), wall mounted with easy to remove bin under the Oneida.
@PeterKertesz2013 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Alm you lucky mo 😀👍👍👍🍻 Awesome workshop and video you have made!!
@jwjenkins421 2 жыл бұрын
This is very clean and seems to have plenty of power.
@TylerBellMakes 4 жыл бұрын
I dont have plans for dust collection but this was pretty cool to see. Nice job on the video bud. I dig the VO
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@TempleThomas 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and very helpful. That's the exact dust collector I'm planning to buy - great job.
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@LeoNovel 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! 🍾
@nightsaber2272 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing more eternal than something temporary :) Cool system. 👍
@thiagocosta1786 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I would wish that have system here in Brazil. awesome. congratulation.
@MrLTSLogan 4 жыл бұрын
I know you said your router table already had great DC, but you can make it even better by using an insert with a bigger hole. It won't affect the safety unless your working with really small wood
@MrLTSLogan 4 жыл бұрын
@Yo MamaWhy is that incorrect?
@austinvickymoore3656 Жыл бұрын
Cool system have a feeling this would work great in my shop.... start saving now...
@FredMcIntyre 4 жыл бұрын
Nice setup, awesome upgrade! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fred! 👊
@dgb5820 Жыл бұрын
That looks absolutely amazing
@georgeruch2579 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and great ideas many of which I will use for my shop vacuum system!
@mikededmon 4 жыл бұрын
It's cool seeing the finished product after watching the IG stories. Also, kudos on the video production. Very well done.
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike!
@GoMbc 3 жыл бұрын
impressed by the system. i am gone make it soon to my workshop. thanks for idea.
@logresmentotum7065 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, especially the tape.
@weldmachine 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Thanks for sharing your ideas with others.
@emremutlu44 4 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying to watch... I think things getting cleaned is also satisfying to watch :)
@LiloUkulele 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo!....looks great!...love that floor collector
@9avedon 4 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Six inch is the way to go. Original dust collector also works great with 6 inch pipes. Plumbing supply in Belleville Ontario Canada selling one 4" by 6" reducer for $56 Canadian . Using 10 ft flexible until I can source reasonable prices on earth.
@CornerfieldShop 4 жыл бұрын
I want this for my shop so badly. Looks amazing 👍 Hope it works out for you in this setup. Interested to hear how it works after a few weeks/months.
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I’ll keep updating people in Instagram
@generaldave6873 4 жыл бұрын
Nice setup!
@dazester 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job. Work great and look awesome!
@mcorrade 4 жыл бұрын
Diresta pencil in the background. I guess we all have them. Nice system very jealous
@robertjordon5782 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Job! Got good ideas from you! Thank you.
@buberle100 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so jealous but happy for you Thanks for the video
@rogeronslow1498 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice shop you have there.
@jimsantaferrara8772 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. Very informative. Thank you.
@roberthodge7802 4 жыл бұрын
very nice install. rollin easy is hard to beat.
@leighhardy9926 4 жыл бұрын
Nice looking system
@luisgaltuvedech3830 3 жыл бұрын
This was so amazing and satisfying to watch
@blkstang83 3 жыл бұрын
Nice system and setup.
@furthernorthfab 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you had a little General dust collector. Haha. It’s to bad they when out of business. They use to be the go to for us north of the boarder. What a HUGE upgrade. Looks great.
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
I was curious what happened to General. I haven’t seen the brand for a bit, so that makes sense. Thanks dude! See you at WBC 🙌
@furthernorthfab 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Alm For sure! See you in less than a month! It’s coming up quickly
@rodpotts2666 4 жыл бұрын
That's great enjoy!
@Johnnychi123 3 жыл бұрын
so relaxing laying pipe!
@rockbandgamer 4 жыл бұрын
Your dust collection system is ideal bro. Crafted workshops recent dust collection setup is completely laughable. He spent money everywhere he could (took sponsorship) and had so many ceiling drops with expandable hose that it looked like a Slinky action zone. Yours is clean looking and it seems to work good.
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