SLIP TEST - Alfa Romeo 156 Crosswagon Q4 vs Audi A6 Allroad Quattro

SLIP TEST - Alfa Romeo 156 Crosswagon Q4 vs Audi A6 Allroad Quattro - @4x4.tests.on.rollers

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11 ай бұрын

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Alfa Romeo 156 Crosswagon 1.9 JTD MT Q4 (2005)
vs
Audi A6 C5 Allroad 2.7T MT Quattro (2003)
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Пікірлер: 91

@15Jose33 11 ай бұрын

El sistema q4 del 156 es simplemente excelente, el mejor de su categoría.

@victorvallesmoreno661 11 ай бұрын

Mucho más afinado el Q4 del 156 que el del 159 siendo idéntica configuración mecánica.

@zygmuntzarzecki 11 ай бұрын

żałuję, że nie widziałem tej alfy na żywo, a tak pędziłem na jej spotkanie :)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

Brakło kilkunastu minut, widziałeś natomiast pozostałe testy, więc już wiesz, co się będzie działo na kanale przez kilka tygodni 🙂

@zygmuntzarzecki 11 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i nie omieszkam lajkowac :)

@ahmetgencay3282 11 ай бұрын

Quadro is always served as more of a system, but in this comparison the Q4 did a much better job.

@andreykakitis7025 11 ай бұрын

Старые машины это всегда интересно🎉Лайк тебе.

@Softroader 11 ай бұрын

It's just me, but there's quite a difference in the way traction control works between the 156 and the 159.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

Big difference. 159 didn't use any front/rear brake intervention, only left/right. And it wasn't that aggressive.

@andreykakitis7025 11 ай бұрын

Alfa the best😊

@danielemazza5782 9 ай бұрын

156 amazing

@user-hd1oe7hd7v 11 ай бұрын

Was waiting for this, thank you! Seems like Alfa performed very well. As an owner of Crosswagon Q4, in the last two years Q4 has performed great in all conditions on the road. Great stability, distribution of power and cornering. I'm curious to find some animations/cross section of Torsen T3 used in Q4. Any idea where to find them? Cheers!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

What exactly would you like to know about Torsen C? If you need the principle of torsen operation then here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9Keeqply9i-Zmw.html

@user-hd1oe7hd7v 11 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks for the answer. The link shows T1 type, if I'm not wrong. Can't find T3 animation.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

@@user-hd1oe7hd7v The principle of operation (torque splitting) is the same. The difference is that T3 is not symmetrical.

@user-hd1oe7hd7v 11 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers all right, thanks for the explanation! Cheers!

@CarLos-yi7ne 5 ай бұрын

Torsen C is a Torque biasing torque split differential. That toque split feature makes that in normal conditions it sends 57% to the rear and 43% to the front wheels still with Torsen locking capability (to shift more torque to the front or rear).

@nicolamiriano9150 11 ай бұрын

The 156 Q4 has one of the best AWD system in its class... Better than the Audi, FACT

@dmitrypopov2614 11 ай бұрын

It's not awd system test. It's traction control system test.

@OggyXXXL 11 ай бұрын

@@dmitrypopov2614😅 make a traction control system for a two-wheel drive that will drive off the rollers, standing as the drive axle on them

@StrayedIdea 11 ай бұрын

It is actually Audi system :)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

@@StrayedIdea It's not.

@StrayedIdea 11 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers It`s torsen T3

@andreisamoshkin 9 ай бұрын

Alfa much better, and wheels too))

@90boiler 6 ай бұрын

quite a big difference how Q4 behaves on 156 and Stelvio

@CarLos-yi7ne 5 ай бұрын

It is a complete different system: 156 Q4 has permanent 4wd. Stelvio has rear wheel drive with a clutch delivering torque to the front wheels.

@johnvictor3856 5 ай бұрын

I could be wrong but as I remember from Crosswagon and Allroad history bouth models have the same torsen C system

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5 ай бұрын

Allroad has torsen B.

@sagittarius-tk4hj 11 ай бұрын

Zawsze się zastanawiałem jaki opór stawiają te rolki. Czy większy jest na rolkach czy np na lodzie.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

Wkrótce postaramy się to wyjaśnić 🙂

@ItsDruid 11 ай бұрын

Zrobicie test Subaru Imprezy GH (hatchback) 2.0?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

Jeśli tylko znajdzie się ochotnik...

@StrayedIdea 11 ай бұрын

What is the conclusion of this test?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

Both systems perform almost the same.

@mrc92 11 ай бұрын

To teraz porównanie torsen z silnikiem w poprzek w Alfie z jakimś haldexem

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

Pomyślimy :)

@Wojtekoperator88 2 ай бұрын

Jakie mody poczynione w Alfie bo ładnie gada i chyba zawór upustowy słucha Pozdro

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 ай бұрын

Obawiam się, że mod został wykonany przez nadgryzający ząb czasu...

@klaus.luppert 11 ай бұрын

Can I request a car? CUPRA Leon Sportstourer 2.0 TSI 4Drive (310) is interesting for me

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

If we could only find this car...

@klaus.luppert 11 ай бұрын

5:25 Did the Alfa really pass this test? Look at the left front tire. It contacts the red frame of the roller and is gaining traction on that. I saw this kind of thing happening on some other videos aswell. Also sometimes in the videos the cars wiggles forwards and backwards and is just lucky to "fall" over the rollers. Is that really a pass?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

It is a pass cause tyre cannot contact the frame. It may slide over the frame but ain't touching it, still slipping on rollers: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJmji6yX3tSrnKc.html When it comes to wiggling - that's what some systems do so we have no influence on that.

@klaus.luppert 11 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks for info

@endlosz 11 ай бұрын

Is it possible that the condition of the cars is not the same, so the drivetrain may be a little more worn in the Audi, and all the worn parts in the Alfa have been newly renovated?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

I don't think so...

@Andi11144 11 ай бұрын

There aren't really any wear items on these quattros. Either they work correctly or they fail catastrophically, most likely due to too little oil in the gearbox/diff or different sized tires from front to back. There is no clutch, no LSD or similar.

@atoutevapeur5poucesvapeurv749 7 ай бұрын

Une Audi c est juste de la merde…

@danilojonic7924 5 ай бұрын

Audi owner on copium

@WolowitzsMother 9 ай бұрын

156 vs 159.

@Thoxxxik 8 ай бұрын

Torsen Diff for the win!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 8 ай бұрын

Which one...?

@amaleazilnicki8915 10 ай бұрын

🎉 *Promosm*

@Paul-gu2lv 7 күн бұрын

How good is that alfa!?

@tomtumulec2504 11 ай бұрын

Ło kurwa znaleźli 156 q4 co jeździ XD co prawda dymi ja 30 letni ford transit ale jeździ. Bardziej mnie mnie to dziwi niż test, w sumie to alfa ma mniej mocy i manual, audi ma automat. Trzeba by porównać coś bardziej zbliżonego, nawet jakieś 80b3 z 2.0 w quattro. Bo wiadomo ze manual zawsze se lepiej poradzi

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

Audi też manual.

@mietek5436 11 ай бұрын

oj jaki smutek silnik kłatro jednak nie taki najlepszy

@atoutevapeur5poucesvapeurv749 7 ай бұрын

Une Audi c est juste de la merde… le système quattro est mauvais, est complètement dépassé par les systèmes torsen

@atoutevapeur5poucesvapeurv749 7 ай бұрын

Ou on voit qu une Audi, c est de la merde…

@tinker1148 11 ай бұрын

The Alfa driver wasn’t letting his wheels settle in to the rollers. Using momentum is cheating in my opinion.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

When exactly do you see Alfa driver using a momentum?

@tinker1148 11 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers On the first 3 tests.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

@@tinker1148 But there's no momentum, car is stopped. Maybe once it was slightly bouncing back and forward but it was already in the roller, that didn't make the difference in result.

@tinker1148 11 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I disagree. You can clearly see the wheels are not settled between the rollers. The driver should have let the car settle before starting. The Audi didn’t have this issue.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 11 ай бұрын

@@tinker1148 If they are not settled between the rollers then where are they? Indicate the timing cause I really can't see it.

@Eugen-E 11 ай бұрын

Alfa is not stock based on the turbo sound )))

@15Jose33 11 ай бұрын

Si está stock pero hacen ese sonido por su sistema de admisión

@Ul7r4magnus 9 ай бұрын

It is stock, turbo is worn. Mine does the same.

@Eugen-E 9 ай бұрын

@@Ul7r4magnus Stock turbo diesn't mean stock engine. He has intake/exhaust/tune.

@15Jose33 9 ай бұрын

@@Eugen-E no. Stock.

@atoutevapeur5poucesvapeurv749 7 ай бұрын

Ce n est pas parce que l Audi est battue qu il faut trouver une excuse, Audi c est juste de la merde

@jackmartini8754 10 ай бұрын

Which car beats the Crosswagon Q4 in this test?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 10 ай бұрын

A lot...

@jackmartini8754 10 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers concretely

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 10 ай бұрын

@@jackmartini8754 We have tested about two hundreds cars but we do not make rankings.

@jackmartini8754 10 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers then I don't see competitors Alfa Romeo Crosswagon Q4

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 10 ай бұрын

@@jackmartini8754 If you mean only the cars from that era and that class then there's not much competitors, there was only a few cars of that type on the market.