i was on a socio economic conference in beijing in 2010. Western researchers very carefully proposed that the Chinese government should think about relaxing the one child policy because of its ageing population. they (we) gave good arguments and packaged them very friendly and carefully. Funny enough Chinese researchers answered that the government policy cant be questioned and that one child policy is very very good. One guy even recited a poem for 5 minutes in Chinese in front of 100+ people with outly half of them understanding what he is saying to defend the governments decisions. It was quite funny and sad at the same time. couple years later they changed the policy. Obviously.
@thesuperflexibleflyingtaoi8866 Жыл бұрын
Ignorance meets arrogance. Often they come in pairs and this is not only seen in china.
@al28854 Жыл бұрын
@@thesuperflexibleflyingtaoi8866 you just described their leader Xi.
@jkc3738 Жыл бұрын
It seems you don't know much about China...China doesn't enforce the one child policy strictly...It's very normal for Chinese families to have multiple children....
@loot6 Жыл бұрын
@@thesuperflexibleflyingtaoi8866 Yeah ignorance and arrogance. China never want to listen to anything from the west even if it makes perfect sense...which most of the time it probably does. Look at the zero covid thing, the whole world was saying it was ridiculous and instead of stopping it they waited an entire year and at the worst possible time they not only stopped it but went full reversal from super strict to doing nothing at all.
@samysdefer Жыл бұрын
Xi is just as insane as Putin is
@edgeldine3499 Жыл бұрын
"this led to poverty and food shortages"... wait... are you sure it wasn't something else Mao did? Like give the soviet union its grain to pay off debts even during a famine? Or the utter disregard to human life? I'm not simply blaming communism like so many people do, but poor management held by those with absolute power, even high ranking CPP members had issues with what Mao was doing at that time.
@basbekjenl Жыл бұрын
many are ignorant about history, myself included. Few are willing to learn what happened long ago, it is a sad affair.
@XtrAMassivE Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought. Saying that the overpopulation was the cause of the famine is a huge bending the truth
@TottWriter Жыл бұрын
Even the famine itself could be argued to have been made much worse/started due to Mao's actions, as he forced people into farming practices which were doomed to failure. It was absolutely far more complicated and tragic than just "too many people". Even if that's too much to go into due to the segment being short on time, they could have said "for this and other reasons" or something.
@flock9487 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this comment, no need to beat around the bush. This is 99% Communisms fault
@Tethloach1 Жыл бұрын
You have a point, backed by historical records.
@maureenmckenna5220 Жыл бұрын
As an almost 80 year old, I remember very well, stories of starvation in China, which is still a historical memory for the Chinese. Controlling the population has been a priority for them for many decades now. Yes, they are now seeing the growth issue in a completely different light, as the world economy, culture and technology have changed so dramatically. But, they have a BILLION people, and the fact that most Chinese have seen the value in having only one child, something the government forced on them by having millions and millions of abortions, mostly of girl babies, has now penetrated their culture completely. They also do not have enough women to marry the millions of men who were not aborted, their culture favoring boys over girls. So, if you are going to have only one child, preference was given to boys. If anything gives credence to the inability of big government to control large population decisions, this is it. They simply could not have foreseen the repercussions of the one child policy on the future. But, almost as important, are the millions and millions of peasants that live outside of the big cities, the landed poor, who grow the food needed to support this huge population. They also want a piece of the action in the cities, good jobs, education and income. This middle class has become all too noticeable, with the ownership of nice cars, clothes and consumerism that is very apparent in China’s urban areas. Who wouldn’t want it? So, those millions, mostly men, have flocked to the cities to work in menial jobs, mostly as laborers, who eventually find it impossible to move into the coveted middle class, find a wife, and make a success of their lives, and there are millions of them. They live poorly, in substandard housing, subsisting on meager incomes. China has done a remarkable job of just feeding its huge population. Let’s see how they manage the newest of problems, not enough people.
@28704joe Жыл бұрын
Well said . It's hard to get to super power status with so many self inflicted burdens.
@eufrosniad994 Жыл бұрын
What this video doesn’t seem to make clear is that China is by no means alone. This is a problem that almost every Western European and North American country is facing. Of course, it isn’t so apparent there because of mass immigration. However, it’s only a matter of time before immigration will also stop being a solution. The so called reproductive health mentality has taken over around the world. So every country will pretty soon be facing the same crisis. Humanity essentially committed social suicide the moment it got on board with reproductive health. There is no stopping the repercussions. China will collapse, just like every other Western country and the rest of the world.
@eufrosniad994 Жыл бұрын
@@28704joe It’s not that difficult to gain a super power status. In fact, a superpower status is usually gained by ignoring many of the problems and focusing on couple of aspects. China has essentially been laser focused on development for sometime now. It had ignored instilling any real moral values among its people other than a utilitarian mindset with financial success as the idol of worship. This is the end result. China will not recover because these things have momentum. Unless China decides to just forcefully breed and raise humans like animals, which will cause its own problems later on, China is going to the same way as Japan and the rest of the “developed” world.
@AwardQueue Жыл бұрын
Your brain ages as well as your body. Society is diverse, and it is also a process of survival of the fittest. Who told you that everyone must get married?
@eddiegerahty3454 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they can manage this if they never admit what they did wrong in the past. The reform won't happen.
@davidgellatly1975 Жыл бұрын
Population decline is not unique to China. Most of the other developed Asian countries, such as Korea and Japan, are also facing the prospect of or actually encountering declining population due to low birth rates. Nor are low birth rates unique to developed countries. Brazil and even India currently have birth rates below that necessary to maintain (2.3 children per family) much less keep the population growing. It is anticipated that the world population will decline by up to 2 billion people after the middle of the century.
@sharathtummala5913 Жыл бұрын
It's actually 2.1 to maintain the same population level. India's TFR may have fallen below that but it will swell to 1.7 B till 2062 then start declining as per studies. I guess it could peak even earlier, hope India starts the 2021 Census soon.
@XtrAMassivE Жыл бұрын
One word: Africa.
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
Japan is different. It has automated its economy and is an export market place. There may come a point that Japan starts to rebuild its population without the economic collapse that China faces.
@treyshaffer Жыл бұрын
I don't think we'll ever hit 10 billion humans, the UN's projections are far too optimistic. A lot of this decline in birth rates was when the economy was doing quite well (2010-2020), so with the coming global recession, which may be quite severe in Asia in particular, we can only expect this to fall off a cliff. I also think African birthrates, which have been most resilient to decline with urbanization, will also fall from severe famines exacerbated by climate change and sheer inability to support such a large population in places with low agricultural productivity.
@NotUnymous Жыл бұрын
Yeah... But that wasnt the point.the point was that the total number are massive in China and therefore the consequences are dire If such a country loses the same percentage as other countries.
@madmaldito773 Жыл бұрын
Add to that their preference of having a boy rather than a girl resulted to a large surplus of bachelors.
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
This might result in war, as China would like to get rid of those men without prospects of marriage to maintain social order
@susanwestern6434 Жыл бұрын
A lot of Russian widows.
@DrumToTheBassWoop Жыл бұрын
@@susanwestern6434 there we go, problem solved. 😂
@loot6 Жыл бұрын
Yep there are many factors that make China's situation the worst of all.
@flock9487 Жыл бұрын
@Blue on blue from 2030s until CCP falls or changes it’s revolting ways there is no doubt in my mind suicide rate in middle aged men will have a dramatic increase
@templetonpatrick Жыл бұрын
According to researcher Yi Fuxian and leaked CCP documents, China has overestimated its population for decades. It's actual population is probably 130 million fewer than official numbers. That means India surpassed it several years ago and that its population began to shrink in the mid-2010s.
@NadeemAhmed-nv2br Жыл бұрын
You do know these numbers take that into account otherwise the shrinking would happen a decade later
@paranoah1925 Жыл бұрын
We will never know what India's population is though. The government skipped this decade's census. So there will be a full 2 decade gap when the numbers come. With rising infertility (thanks to toxins everywhere - air, water, food), i guess it will be a huge surprise when India's numbers finally come
@NoctLightCloud Жыл бұрын
@@paranoah1925 as it should! Every Indian I know complains about the overcrowded places and overpopulation, and POLUTION due to too many people on too little space🤢
@tomorrowland2684 Жыл бұрын
@@NoctLightCloud only in towns and cities.
@susanwestern6434 Жыл бұрын
@@NoctLightCloud Indians will migrate to China.
@eugene5266 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind these projections are 80 years out! So many things can happen in that time that there's no way that it can be that accurate at the end
@anypercentdeathless Жыл бұрын
Wumao. (And, yes, it's an accurate prediction of who will be alive in eighty years the one that's based on the babies alive today-since people live about...eighty years!)
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
@@anypercentdeathless i'd immagine alot can happen to influence birth rates in 80 years. Maybe china adopts pro-natalist policy again and swings it around? Maybe a religious revival happens in china like it did in Russia in the early 2000s. Maybe artificial wombs become a thing in 2050 and you can use a robot to raise your child.
@zadovrus1624 Жыл бұрын
It's always economical pressure, all over the world. Why does it feel like we are getting more more poor as the time flies by?
@AmstradExin Жыл бұрын
Because super rich people and companies keep the money hostage.
@eh1702 Жыл бұрын
In the covid years, the rich still got richer. Because all over the planet, they have essentially paid political parties to make the legislation that favours them. Thus, in many countries corporations have rights as though they were a person: yet they do not suffer real consequence when they break the law - eg by practices that endanger people, or by pollution. And it is the legal obligation in many countries for managers to maximise shareholder value; to externalise “costs” like pollution, dumping of material waste, ruining land value etc. So the population pays to clean up rivers, pays for landfill, pays in lost savings when banks go bust, pays private transport companies for the infrastructure investment that the companies were supposed to build before they took profits, etc.
@seanthe100 Жыл бұрын
It's because our population has grown continuously
@abcdedfg8340 Жыл бұрын
Because thats how the game works. Keep the workers too busy at work so they dont unionize work work together for better time off and better wages. Meanwhile our wealthy take minimum 4 or 5 week vacations and complain when normal people want the same. Seriously its pathetic in north america, people are not as productive because they have barely 2 weeks vacation to look forward too. So why work hard? If you go to germany or pther places with 4 to 5 weeks minimum, you get much more motivated workers who want to enjoy their time off, so try to work smarter and faster, so they can vacation when they want too. Yeah companies may not like it, but letting workers take a decent vacation off (not just 2 weeks continuous) is actually really good for motivation and productivity.
@danopticon Жыл бұрын
@Power Guy - It’s called “bourgeois democracy,” or democracy for the rich: in the wealthy world, in theory you have a vote, but the poor are kept disorganized and discouraged from voting or through various mechanisms even forbidden from voting, and the middle class are brainwashed into voting as if they might become millionaires tomorrow, plus a variety of gatekeeping mechanisms ensure most people who enter politics are already rich, and they make sure it’s literally legal for other rich people to bribe government and to retain special access to government … so you mostly get government by the rich for the rich. Anatole France put it best: “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and the poor alike from begging in the streets, from sleeping under bridges, and from stealing loaves of bread.” You are absolutely right: working people today are working twice as long and twice as hard as we did in the 1970s, but we’re only making roughly the same amount of money, and oftentimes de facto less, when you consider that the cutting of benefits means a rise in our cost of living. Meanwhile, in that same timespan, the wealth of capital holders has increased more than twentyfold. So what is to be done? Now, if you’re in the U.S.A. or in Western Europe, you’re in luck: you do legally have full suffrage, so in theory working people could organize and vote consistently as a bloc, and within 20 to 30 years have enacted a completely non-violent revolution and re-taken power. So why don’t you do it?
@stevens1041 Жыл бұрын
China will be better off with a declining population. Workers there might even get treated better, as companies will have to fight for recruits.
@stevens1041 Жыл бұрын
@Angad sidemenonly India has had over a billion people for decades. Why has it not gotten all the investment? There is more required than just having a lot of people. Large populations are steam-age thinking. We have machines and robots to do work these days. India is attracting investment these days, by the way, because it has increased education and made reforms.
@fly463 Жыл бұрын
@angadsidemenonly1292 Already started doing that. I think they should have used two child policy instead of one child policy :P
@KonigGustavAdolph Жыл бұрын
🤣
@drakenkraken8455 Жыл бұрын
@Angad sidemenonly India is too incompetent and lazy for manufacturing. India exports less goods than Netherlands- a tiny European country. Good for scam call centres and brainless coders . Because British gifted them Western education and English language.
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
@@stevens1041 That is just fantasy thinking. What will happen is that China will become very unstable economically which in turn will lead to major war and possibly WW3. Once China goes all in Russia will come to their side as they will be on the same boat.
@martinfalkenberg64 Жыл бұрын
I would have put more emphasis on the fact that the population decline is build into the population structure already. Even if the fertile rate were to go up to 3 children per woman today, the population would still shrink, because there are few young women. Just showing a picture of the population urn would let people understand the situation much better, very easily.
@swparsons Жыл бұрын
Agree. Weak reporting and analysis. Could have put this is context much better.
@schattensand Жыл бұрын
And if they marry they do it late, have a western standard, demand huge payments from their to be husbands, who have to be 6 foot+ aka 1,80, own a house, a luxury car and make not less than 100000 $ a year.
@julieana4695 Жыл бұрын
@@schattensand isn't karma a b*tch. Chinese society discarded and abused girls and put boys on a pedestal. Now girls are in high demand. I say GOOD. It's their turn to be put on the pedestal. If you want to blame someone blame the pple who created this situation
@ariapinandita9240 Жыл бұрын
If their economy has problems in the future, of course Indonesia will also have difficulties. China, Japan and Korea are our friends... We are ready to help them if asked...
@schattensand Жыл бұрын
@@julieana4695 Isn't your post more a whish to be yourself on a pedestal carried by men? You'r right - women just take their chances - they are not to blame. Only do societies, where some woman and many more men live, not function. Frustrated men become killers and rapists.
@ruimintianomi6382 Жыл бұрын
The biggest reason why they're scrambling to convince people to have more children is they need more labor to help them build the country. And you would think labor is scarce resource. But lots of employers have absurdly unreasonable requirements for employees that make you feel like labor is not valued. For example, age. Employers are generally obsessed with young graduates when recruiting someone for an entry-level position. I was pushed to leave the after-school tutoring industry after the country issued a policy outlawing extracurricular academic training. I switched to auditing, and in order to get prepared, I intently studied this subject and knowledge of other areas related to it for two years, leading to me passing the major sessions of CPA. But when I started looking for a job in auditing, many HR didn't take me on becuz they thought I was too old, and I was 29.
@scottmcmaster4927 Жыл бұрын
We need to focus on how to grow an economy without growing a population. It seems our entire economic system is focused on continuous growth of population. I think we need to give serious thought to how to increase per capita wealth and production in a nation with declining population.
@gingerlicious3500 Жыл бұрын
That's going to be the challenge of the 21st century. I'm just glad the US will get a buffer of at least thirty years so we can see which model works best before tackling this problem ourselves.
@rayhill5767 Жыл бұрын
Productivity and CONSUMPTION Less consumers less $$
@jirachi-wishmaker9242 Жыл бұрын
Not possible. Socialist wet dream
@rayhill5767 Жыл бұрын
Oh life does move along in countries experiencing decline See: Japan however youthful creativity and vitality is lost that creates new products and services.
@noodlerice8778 Жыл бұрын
Without growing the population, once everyone reaches retirement age there won’t be a large enough working class to support the majority of elderly who arnt working.
@Immudzen Жыл бұрын
Endless growth is unsustainable. You can't just keep having more and more people. We have to learn to deal with this problem.
@bubblitzbubba3501 Жыл бұрын
I didn't say overpopulation was a good thing.
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
That is not close to being true.
@Immudzen Жыл бұрын
@@CantHandleThisCanYa Even that is not unlimited. If you actually look at how fast humans have been growing in terms of energy usage it would only take a few centuries to use the full power output of the sun.
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
@@CantHandleThisCanYa Resources for what exactly?
@fromfareast3070 Жыл бұрын
@@bighands69 for people's need of course
@DutchPlanDerLinde Жыл бұрын
For some reason people act sad that we will no longer have a 20:1 people to apartment ratio.
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
It’s going to be worse. The social system will collapse. There won’t be any money for social programs or pensions
@qefewfwdcwdc Жыл бұрын
you should be sad, your people are educated and highly developed, but you would rather die out and make room for stpid subhumans
@docilecatfish1370 Жыл бұрын
@@fjuvo What welfare programs? What pensions? When did the CCP ever care about stuff like that?
@johnl.7754 Жыл бұрын
Or take most of your working life to purchase it
@loganwolfram4216 Жыл бұрын
@@CantHandleThisCanYa wealth is not the same thing as GNP.
@cenationofjnu Жыл бұрын
First people are not marrying like they used to in the past. it is becoming difficult to find a life partner for many. people are marrying in their 30s. Besides, raising babies is far difficult today despite having all the luxury. Raising one baby and providing him the best possible life is now more like a struggle than fun.
@puraLusa Жыл бұрын
It also makes a society more prone to violence, it's quite depressing.
@wisenber Жыл бұрын
"Besides, raising babies is far difficult today despite having all the luxury." We tend to make it more difficult than it actually being more difficult. 150 years ago the actual housing and feeding of children was more difficult than today, yet they had more children,
@puraLusa Жыл бұрын
@@wisenber no pill = no choice = under 6 mortality rate higher = need quantity to increse chances of adult sons/ daughters
@baronvonjo1929 Жыл бұрын
@wisenber I get what you mean. I think it's more like the standard of living we expect can't remain with a child. But also more modern issues. Buying power is not in our favor. So everything overall is more expensive vs what we actually make. If you live in a city apartment it's not as diserbale to have kids in such a small space. And then in Asia they seem to expect a lot of money to fund the education and just a lot of money than we do in the west. Also long working ours so less time with the kid or to date. I get what you mean but things have changed.
@wisenber Жыл бұрын
@@baronvonjo1929 " I think it's more like the standard of living we expect can't remain with a child. But also more modern issues. Buying power is not in our favor." Standards of living were bad for many more 150 years ago, and buying power was as well. Families were more worried about having food than which school their children would attend, yet those children went on to thrive for the most part. "If you live in a city apartment it's not as diserbale to have kids in such a small space. " I think you're onto something. Our desires have changed to make having children less attractive. Take a look at how many people used to be crammed into small living spaces a few generations ago. Even in the US, homes are built much larger now than they were, yet families are smaller.
@erichvonmolder9310 Жыл бұрын
Good News! Good for Earth!
@bubblitzbubba3501 Жыл бұрын
Not good, econmic downfall, and what did the people of China do to deserve being looked down upon? many of them don't even support the CCP.
@bubblitzbubba3501 Жыл бұрын
But I see what you mean.
@bubblitzbubba3501 Жыл бұрын
I dont see how this will fix climate change since this decline is only slowly happening.
@bubblitzbubba3501 Жыл бұрын
Plus every person's life matters. I'm disgusted of how careless and such lack of humility people have.
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
It will be horrible for earth because it will lead to WW3.
@JP-uf9sh Жыл бұрын
Just to think that one couple has to look after 4 elderly (their own and their parents in law) in old age and their grandparents and supposed to raise and pay 2-3 children is a very big expectation.
@user-eh8yz6ko3t Жыл бұрын
It’s as if everyone is more concerned about the economic dip than the future or the planet
@theamici Жыл бұрын
People would like to live a good life, and a planet of only old people will probably make for a terrible life
@gingerlicious3500 Жыл бұрын
Because the economy informs our quality of life. And the planet isn't going anywhere. We could launch every nuke we've got and the Earth would recover.
@user-eh8yz6ko3t Жыл бұрын
@@gingerlicious3500 if you mean the earth would recover as in this big rock would continue to hurdle through space closer and closer to the sun yes. But pretty much all life would end. I’m guessing you graduated from HS and don’t understand
@gingerlicious3500 Жыл бұрын
@@user-eh8yz6ko3t I graduated from college, actually. But way to display your elitism. Do you also think that poor people are poor because they're lazy? And the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs had more energy than all the atomic weapons on Earth combined. Life on Earth didn't just survive that event, it thrived. You should really do more research into Earth's natural history, particularly some of the mass extinction events Earth has experienced. Life is a lot more resilient than you give it credit for. Kinda ironic how you tried to take a dig at my education level but now I'm the one schooling you. Let me guess, you went to college and got some useless Arts degree? See, now I can be judgy and elitist too. Isn't this fun?
@noodlerice8778 Жыл бұрын
@@theamici When you have a majority of elderly in your population, the young workers aren’t working for their future wealth instead they’re working so that the retired elderly who cannot work are able to live. China uses their elderly pop. to raise children, but if there’s no child for them to raise they’re a financial burden to everyone.
@futureshocked Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is crazy, I was just talking to my girlfriend about this last night. She's younger than me and I also lived in Asia. I was telling her about how that whole thing about how there's 40 million 'extra' Chinese men is now a moot point because all those men are past fighting/family age now anyway. It's exactly what the woman in the first minute mentions. I'm gonna be dark here but I'd say to expect a wave of suicides. 40 is when the rubber hits the road in life and to be that age, as a dude, with no spouse, parents who are literally just costing you money to be alive AND an economy that is going t*ts up? Pffffftttt that's a baddddd spiritual combo.
@Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387 Жыл бұрын
We are going to start having that same issue here in my country the USA with high rise of sexless single virgin men up in their late 20s and 30s growing every day all childless as well
@socrates5647 Жыл бұрын
lol there are 60 million 'extra' men in India , in your theory much bigger wave should come from India firstly.
@Letsgo-sg4cy Жыл бұрын
Single life is best in modern era. You are wrong here.
@jdocean1 Жыл бұрын
Just have to learn to be happy with the small victories in life. Don’t covet everything that you don’t have. Be happy that you’re alive with all your limbs.
@oxydoxxo Жыл бұрын
The US is fine demographically. Boomers are called boomers because they had lots of babies (i.e. baby boomers) Can't relate with this virgin talk either. We millenials are out here smashing so maybe it's time for you to get away from the screens and go outside
@RBC2_ Жыл бұрын
This is good thing for the planet. Every country in the world should try to do the same.
@dplocksmith91 Жыл бұрын
China isn't trying to decline in population.
@TheGreatVivek7 Жыл бұрын
True. Sanctions should be imposed on Africa
@PK1999 Жыл бұрын
On bahalf of our planet 🌎 - huge relief!
@timetraveler2518 Жыл бұрын
We have the same boat for China's population decline. I am an unemployed American. I cannot afford to have a family and a child nowadays because of financial stress due to insecure and difficult economic conditions.
@puraLusa Жыл бұрын
The difference is ur not unemployed caring for the elderly of ur house hold. China has clan base familly and not nuclear.
@dplocksmith91 Жыл бұрын
America's demographic problem will be mitigated by immigration.
@puraLusa Жыл бұрын
@@dplocksmith91 yes, countries who offer opportunity have the advantage. But it comes at the cost of social unease plus the departing countries suffer brain drain.
@jadapinkett1656 Жыл бұрын
The US is in far better shape population wise.
@anypercentdeathless Жыл бұрын
"We have the same boat"? Very colloquial, wumao.
@TheDeadbone1961 Жыл бұрын
Nice to start out the day with some good news!
@J_X999 Жыл бұрын
Otherwise people would start killing themselves due to the lack of cope material.
@Clarity520 Жыл бұрын
Lol tell us you are sinophobic whitout telling us you are sinophobic.
@Alex-ez1lk Жыл бұрын
@@Clarity520 Can you be CCPhobic without being sinophobic? I think it's a reasonable possibility.
@Clarity520 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-ez1lk we are talking about Chinese in general not just CCP.
@zdravkobelinski4627 Жыл бұрын
@@saccount-z3 u quoted 1984?
@heli398 Жыл бұрын
1.4 billion people is a lot people to feed, i m not worried
@nb6525 Жыл бұрын
This would probably be compensated by more automation, robots, AI etc. We won’t need as many people to support the world economy as much as we needed in the past.
@Adam-nw1vy Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I just posted a comment about that. Soon, our problem will be not having jobs because everything will be automated. ChatGPT was released less than 2 months ago. Imagine what's gonna happen in 10 years.
@mrhatman675 Жыл бұрын
@@Adam-nw1vy I actually posted chat gbd 3 quite hard mathematics problems from mathematical olimpiads and it actually solved them if ai can replace a mathematician(not the really good mathematicians who make theorems) then it can pretty much replace anyone
@J_X999 Жыл бұрын
"But AI and robots don't buy stuff" AI and robotics will boost productivity in a shrinking workforce. This will boost wages and in turn, raise consumption dramatically
@khein2204 Жыл бұрын
south korea and japan has already implemented and integrated this to their economic activity, their population declined earlier than china, south korea's numbers of robot per workers is number one in the world, it's 1,000 robots per 10,000 workers
@andia968 Жыл бұрын
@@J_X999 amd robots consume too consume parts e Ectricity and fluids
@wonderwinder1 Жыл бұрын
I think most of the world is fine with this.
@wonderwinder1 Жыл бұрын
@@KLRJUNE We don’t need a new TV OR PHONE every two years.
@gingerlicious3500 Жыл бұрын
@@wonderwinder1 And yet, most people still buy them. Should tell you something about the human condition.
@LCTesla Жыл бұрын
Cheaper real estate, cleaner air, cleaner drinking water, less traffic... mostly good consequences. Yes there will probably be a few financial busts that clear bad debts out of system but that also has its upsides.
@aditya-ml6km Жыл бұрын
with less people in the Chinese factories, who will manufacture your goods? The global economy will collapse.
@LCTesla Жыл бұрын
@@aditya-ml6km China is a greater threat to global economic stability when its growing than when its shrinking.
@aditya-ml6km Жыл бұрын
@@LCTesla As per now, we don't have a substitute for China. Manufacturing can be shifted to India but that will take several years to happen. Even India's population is heading towards a decline.A global population/economic collapse is inevitable.
@jiaxingchen7236 Жыл бұрын
@@aditya-ml6km we'll just consume less. One new phone every 5 years. Less fast fashion. Less plastic toys.
@aditya-ml6km Жыл бұрын
@@jiaxingchen7236 profits will stall, global unemployment, and economic crisis will prevail. We have made significant progress as a society only because of a large population of consumers. A whole new economic system would have to be invented.
@Mexicanman Жыл бұрын
with rivers drying up and basically using the earth's resources up at an alarming rate I think its a good thing this is happening
@spac18 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't work that way kiddo
@Adam-nw1vy Жыл бұрын
Jeez! Ok Jesus.
@nathanspreitzer6738 Жыл бұрын
Ignorant and crass take
@jsnagra1able Жыл бұрын
More countries need to follow this path, especially 3rd world countries.
@nicolasloiseau8971 Жыл бұрын
This is very Good
@rawword Жыл бұрын
The problem with this information is that it doesn't tell you that 90% of the deceased were seniors.
@tarkov666 Жыл бұрын
Soo there is less parents to support the elderly while being told to have more children... good job CCP.
@bullfrog5037 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with China's population implosion is it occurred before China became rich. As Japan's population has been rapidly declining already for decades. However, because the Japanese were already rich when their population implosion occurred, they were able to build Japanese owned manufacturing facilities around the world in their strongest markets and in which was sufficient to save their economy. Unfortunately for China, China is not rich.
@DiepSpartan119 Жыл бұрын
Low population and low pollution and makes earth clean 🌍
@fl00fydragon Жыл бұрын
This is actually good news. This also should be an eye opening woment for humanity to realize that ANY system that relies on endless population growth is destined to fail. We're nearing an era where the human lifespan will undergo a radical extension, the only two options to respond to this to avoid a logistical collapse would be to either 1) Ban the use of such technology, which is cruel because you'll be legislating that people have to die via the authority of states. This will inevitably lead to the rich and powerful finding a workaround to gain access to the tehchnology that would perpetuate their life while the rest die off which would simoutaneously lead to a dynasty system of wealth and political power and increasing sosciopolitical instability as the rest of your society will initially try to become of the select few who get to perpetuate their life and once they realize the chances are against them the system will destabilize as any system that enforced policies that made life or death decisions on the population based on class has throught history. 2) Radically reduce our reproduction. If lets say that we enter a transhumanist era that allows people to live for centuries (let alone millennia) then it would stand to reason to have a reproduction rate of less than a kid per century per person.
@MrJonezy541 Жыл бұрын
China is going to struggle with an aging population going forward though, maybe technology will fill in some of these gaps?
@fl00fydragon Жыл бұрын
@@MrJonezy541 Oh I don't doubt that this will create issues. This proves that our systems that we're currently using as a species are less than well designed. Technology definately is part of the solution, heck I even posed the correct use of life extending technology as a positive in my original comment, however that's the key "correct use" A tool's utility is highly correleated on how you use it. Automation, robotics and transhuamnism have the potential to emancipate humanity beyond our wildest dreams. However doing so in a broken system like the ones that are implemented today will only result in them being used wrong and eventaually cause harm and destabilization. The technology is not the problem here, we need to refine our political system to a superior model of democracy AND we need to start a process of adopting a post-monetary framework.
@kinngrimm Жыл бұрын
If we would collectivly decide to ban it then have those who still use it imprisoned till the end of their days while giving them the option of a clean painless death. Seeing how the world works currently, the rich being those who decide how things go, it isn't likely this would become legislature like that. If we go for the second option, the technology solves it all aproach so to speak, space will need to be settled with ever inceasing waves of people living there. The earth made hollow for more living space. Mars, Venus, the moon made our homes and generation ships built to venture beyond our Solar System. All that in a pace to keep up with the explosion of people getting ressources to gurantee for all people good living standards. If the reproduction is reduced, we may wanna see to it that it is nothing permanent, a fall back option kept open or have again not a genetic approach but a prevention system. This will also be then the start we activly creat subspecies. As with option two, it would not be forbidden, but still not everyone will be able to afford every enhancement as these will most likely be patented(patent system should be rethought anyways). If so the rich will accumulated certain traits they easily can afford but still wont sell to the heighest bidder, like a trophy to show they are better, which geneticly speaking they might really then be under certain aspects andperspectives. That would lead to inbreeding, soemthing upper classes did already anyways. Which will lead to a new species eventually. Rulers who look down on the rest of us. ... well that is one way how it could go down.
@fl00fydragon Жыл бұрын
@@kinngrimm Numbers correspond to your paragraphs I'll answer 1) That's a really bad idea. For one banning technology has never been effective in the long run and to make matters worse you'll be running against people's survival drive. This means that you'll always have people who will try to find a work-around to get access to it. Hypothetical: that's how you end up with the dystopia of Elyseum. It would be far better to make that technology widely available but reduce reproduction rates, the best scenario would be by adopting a way to extend human lifespan that stops reproduction (such as cybernetic immortality, a machine body can't reproduce) 2) The second option I described is extremely viable, especially if we go the bionic route instead of the biological life extension route. A slower reproduction rate while technology still rises at an exponential rate whilst also humanity breaking from teh limitations of biolody open us the option of conquering space. The solar system alone has enough resources to support quintillions of people living like rich people, (becasue it's massive and full of resources) by the time you approach any meaningful hard logistical limit to populations you will have options to move city sized ships to other solar systems. Basically our technology will evolve radically faster than our population if we go down this rouse making overpopulation functionally a non-issue for as long as the universe keeps chugging along. 3)I don't know if it will be a case of "subspecies" per se. It's more likely that we'll see vast categories of modifications that are desigbned to better fit a person's needs/aesthetics/design/identity/ etc. (Think of how bionics are portrayed in the Alita manga series) I believe tha patent system should be abolished and bionics/life extension should be considered as part of the public healthcare system and the healthcare system should be expanded and any and all attempt to privatize it should be met with absolute resistance. And that's why I also advocate the abolishement of capitlaism along with transhumanism
@rok1475 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what Prof. Hans Rosling had to say about how to control population growth. What qualifies you to make these (silly) comments?
@KarthikSoun Жыл бұрын
So what ?? We are human beings and not just tools of capitalism to be seen as consumers and workers. If there are lesser people we can enjoy more resources built for more people.
@regorflora7915 Жыл бұрын
No big deal. They got so many people
@havencat9337 Жыл бұрын
i never seen a presenter being so happy: ))))
@loot6 Жыл бұрын
When was she happy??
@CjqNslXUcM Жыл бұрын
What people tend to miss is that the artificial one child policy was likely one of the main causes of china's economic rise. They had a fantastic working to dependant ratio. They'll stagnate for a few decades but after that, the median income and wealth is going to rise significantly, because fewer people are inheriting from more and there is going to be less competition on the labor market.
@francesm2580 Жыл бұрын
What will be there to inherit if everything is just leased from the government… 100 years seems long until you live on the land for 50 years, then it’s only 50 years left. No wealth compounding.
@Llkc60 Жыл бұрын
'going to be less competition on the labor market' - yes, in fact currently 2-300 million Chinese do not have a fix contract an are on stand-by contracts, fresh diploma students cannot find enough white collar work in line with their education. less competition on the labor market will take decades to arrive keeping their wages low. They may inherit more, but in place of the CCP I would tax it. (they will tax it). Furthermore declining supply on the labor market leads to wage inflation and takes away China's competitive edge. New carbon tariffs introduced by the EU, and possibly be the US will further cut their advantages. Their export surplus will decline and I do not see (see my observation above) sufficient income growth internally for them to transform into a consumer based economy. Technological disadvantages will exacerbate their problems and they will be reliant on western imports. However you do make a fair point by stating that there is an oversupply of labor in the coming decade.
@zibbitybibbitybop Жыл бұрын
It's going to be too late at that point to matter. The sheer burden of having a ton of old, retired people and not remotely enough younger people to support them is going to drive the population through the floor, and by the time the top-heavy retiree population is finally all dead, the economy will already be a shell of its former self.
@geofflepper3207 Жыл бұрын
I've heard there will be a significant number of people in China who find themselves the only person to care for 2 elderly parents and 4 elderly grandparents because of the one child policy. That doesn't leave a person a lot of time to be active in the labour force. Now, you are likely right that eventually those people will inherit a lot ..... if their parents and grandparents have a lot of assets .... though given that China was so poor until recently that is not necessarily going to be the case. And it will be a problem throughout the century as the working age population shrinks as the elderly population increases. I believe that in 1980 when China started its transformation the median age in the country was 24 so there were lots of young people ready to work in the years ahead. By 2050 the median age in China is expected to be 47 or so meaning that there are going to be a lot of older people who don't want to work as hard anymore or possibly not want to work at ali. Though it is true that Japan, South Korea, Italy and many other countries will have the same problem. One particular problem China is facing is that unlike those other countries it is facing demographic collapse before becoming a wealthy country. China's per capita income is still very low compared to most countries facing demographic collapse.
@GoGoPooerRangers Жыл бұрын
That's not how it works... China is literally following the same model of Japan, except China doesn't have as much wealth(per Capita). China's GDP is not measured in the same way OECD countries are, they rely on exports and infrastructure projects for it's number. China knows this and they know it will stagnate for good if they don't try to increase domestic consumption, problem is they don't have the money to do so. Falling demographic will do huge damage to rural China, but big cities like Beijing and Shanghai will be able to barely manage their debts. Overall, this isn't going to be good for China or the world, it will cause inflation and instability particularly in China which can lead a mad man to make dumb decisions.
@SamiLo2 Жыл бұрын
A shrinking population is a good thing for countries and the world. We don’t need to destroy the only planet we have by having a constant growing population.
@PETE4955 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable how this is so newsworthy. Its population increases would be catastrophic.
@JensOverby Жыл бұрын
Finally, some good news!
@hagdore Жыл бұрын
If you ask me, it's not happening fast enough. Also, while their population may be declining, the Indian population is on the rise. So overall, not overly great news, unfortunately 😕
@anypercentdeathless Жыл бұрын
The faster we rid the world of the CCP, the better for everyone-current and future generations alike.
@hagdore Жыл бұрын
@TheSleeper33 Hurt my feelings? That's a subtle way of putting it. Makes me sick to my core is what it does.
@user-gw5mf7fd5k Жыл бұрын
Bad news for European. No more cheap stuff in the future
@yvonnefarrell1029 Жыл бұрын
I agree; they spent decades trying desperately to get women to have fewer babies and it worked. Why the pundits are upset, I do not know. They report on one hand about climate change, then turn the tables and complain about a Chinese birth dearth. When will they be happy, and sensible? Automation is going to get rid of many jobs anyhow.
@supernova8709 Жыл бұрын
Unconditional right to stop our own life medically whenever we want for all adults, my body my choice.
@gardeniabrune2125 Жыл бұрын
The brain isn’t done developing until 25 so yes, but over 25- and must be evaluated by a psychologist to ensure it’s not a very fast depressive switch for an otherwise happy individual or a manic episode. Also if you have kids under 18 it should be a no.
@supernova8709 Жыл бұрын
@@gardeniabrune2125 One can join the army and kill people before 25 ?
@gamaigia9270 Жыл бұрын
If your population is too high you will get criticized. If your population is declining you will also get criticized. You can never win over the winchers.
@saikatpandit9744 Жыл бұрын
Great news for people and earth
@erichvonmolder9310 Жыл бұрын
The Chinese may someday need people from El Salvador and Nicaragua - that would be a heck of a turn of events.
@deezeed2817 Жыл бұрын
China's future will not be capitalist. It is a slowly failing system and won't address the problems humanity is facing.
@wokeaf1337 Жыл бұрын
more likely from Africa
@johnl.7754 Жыл бұрын
Or turn to automation and robotics (of course if that’s the case why not make it in the places where it will be sold at).
@HOHLfmly Жыл бұрын
Oh no! They are like the Brits and the American South! China doesn’t allow immigration they don’t want the bloodline mixed
@DonHrvato Жыл бұрын
India is closer to China
@arvidgreat Жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful chart.
@johnl.7754 Жыл бұрын
It’s the similar chart as all developed countries
@HShango Жыл бұрын
Generally it costs way too much to care for new born humans right now and even in the not too far future.
@tcniel Жыл бұрын
Outstanding bit of news I have waited for years to hear this news.
@mrmelmba Жыл бұрын
Couples that realize their children cannot become established do not raise families. Continued growth over the past few decades follows a similar pattern to that of western nations that enjoyed growth post WWII but the cycle has passed its peak and is in decline. Western nations employ massive immigration to maintain population levels. That means discarding the notion that the country inherently belongs to its own native population. _This_ is London? _Where_ are the British? It is unlikely that China will resort to that kind of measure. Automation will fill the workforce gap. The entire socio-economic model based on growth should be discarded, because growth requires resources that are finite. It is likely that optimum population levels will be determined for each country, which will be enforced by global agencies, either directly or covertly. This vaccine will prevent disease. How can you catch it when you are dead?
@johnlesoudeur3653 Жыл бұрын
Yes the mess that Europe is in due to uncontrolled immigration has led to social bifurcation.
@Lomhow Жыл бұрын
China's healthcare system is eerily similar to the US system. People can't afford care. There already weren't enough doctors in China. Now 250+ million chinese have the new covid strain. Many of them are elderly... my heart and prayers go out to the people of China, they deserve better
@goobfilmcast4239 Жыл бұрын
Does China have a system of Doctor's offices and specialty clinic scattered throughout both big cities and small towns or is the vast majority of healthcare supplied by a few large facilities in major cities ?
@belisarius2776 Жыл бұрын
Not when it comes to Organ Transplants. If you are a powerful communist party official in China and you need a new heart or kidney, they will "find" one for you in a few weeks. Many teenagers are "missing" in a country with the largest number of security cameras in the world. Cameras equipped with Facial recognition software that can track down a Hong Kong dissident in minutes but cant find a missing teenager. If George Orwell was alive he could have wrote a terrifying sequel to 1984.
@FuImaDragon Жыл бұрын
@@goobfilmcast4239 the second one i believe. they like centralized medicine
@rcbrascan Жыл бұрын
Not true, China's healthcare system is universal and not for profit because it is a socialist system. For the people, medical costs are negligible and Chinese universities are generating an ongoing stream of doctors so the whole system is completely sustainable. Chinese students also don't pay tuition for medical schools.
@andia968 Жыл бұрын
Medical cost is cheap in china because it is subsidized. We in west really have way too many china experts who never set a foot im china
@ERa_7 Жыл бұрын
China is now 1.4 billion India 1.45 billion
@SanjivKumar-cw3oq Жыл бұрын
@jack china - 10 million
@serberus5233 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan - 100 BILLION
@ERa_7 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@JamesMuaxia101 Жыл бұрын
Can imagine Indian immigrants and countless hard-working laborers
@edgeldine3499 Жыл бұрын
Peter Zeihan has been on top of this for about a decade or more, and his data is pretty useful for this particular issue. Hes also pretty easy to read/watch and understand vs some economists and political scholars.. but its no less informed. Yes some of the predictions get wild but they are more likely than people want to admit.
@intractablemaskvpmGy Жыл бұрын
DW decided to get on the bandwagon after PZ made this news via youtube. So DW tries the same
@Sp4mMe Жыл бұрын
He also talks a lot of BS about things he's got no clue about (see for example Russia/Ukraine). He's got his stick and just applies it everywhere. Ask about specifics (which people rarely do) and you immediately see he's not somebody to take too seriously.
@cteal2018 Жыл бұрын
@@Sp4mMe yet very serious people that make very serious decisions do.
@Jay-eb7ik Жыл бұрын
@@Sp4mMe Whenever someone praises zeihan, another will bring him down. What does his thoughts on russia and ukraine have to do with population collapse in china, which is what this comment and video are about? Smh
@leezhieng Жыл бұрын
A lot of the things he said are complete bollocks.
@w.terrace5394 Жыл бұрын
That's why I think they cannot afford to go to war with their neighboring countries because of their population decline.
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
Or they have the last years to start one and grow by annexing the Taiwanese population. That’s exactly what Russia is doing with Ukraine
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
With their population decline their market place will be come very volatile and collapse. The first sign of that volatility China will look to try and expand externally. In the long term they will fail but that will result in WW3 with probably hundreds of millions or billions dead.
@BaljinderSingh-xy4ik Жыл бұрын
Still its a big country
@edgeldine3499 Жыл бұрын
war would probably be a boon.. at last for the ccp, first the male to female ratio is out of whack, send the men to die and solve the issue with a potentially unsatisfied group of people most likely to revolt.. covid may be impacting the issue with the older generation moreso to the tragic benefit of china.. not sure if it actually will but its a thought. You can also create a reaction from the rest of the world that will force china to turn inward and isolate itself.. making it a perfect excuse to clamp down hard onto the population.. bring back some Maoisms. You also can blame the outside and not the CCP for the problems inside china, so basically turning it into north korea in a way.
@Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387 Жыл бұрын
Actually now is the time for them To Go to way they have the numbers, power and economy they won’t have this in the next 20 yrs
@zhangshiyucao Жыл бұрын
Less human miseries.
@khust2993 Жыл бұрын
Guess you love a future geriatric society
@paranoah1925 Жыл бұрын
@@khust2993 Absolutely! Societies with more old people are safer and have much less crime. And the workers will have better working conditions
@paranoah1925 Жыл бұрын
@Lessons in Logic The old people in general have more money because of increasing inequality with time. This means they will be consumers. There will be more consumers and no surplus of workers like there is today. That will give workers more bargaining power
@stevens1041 Жыл бұрын
@@paranoah1925 I can tell you're smart. Its funny how many people echo what corporate media says. Sure, shrinking population is bad news if you own a multinational corporation that needs new recruits each year. For the other 99.9% of us though, sounds great. Less traffic, less pollution, less competition.
@Mooxieclang Жыл бұрын
Untold human misery if these psycho fascists get their way
@Brettagher Жыл бұрын
I'm so tired of depopulatio alarmists. One day they're talking about carbon emissions, food shortages, over-population, etc., the next day they're lamenting population rates falling. Which is it?
@rgj8044 Жыл бұрын
This can only be a good thing for the world IMO
@itinnyi Жыл бұрын
IMO, fewer Americans will definitely better the world, and I'm American. Why would you hope for a dumber world?
@jsnagra1able Жыл бұрын
We cannot have infinite growth on a finite world. More countries need to follow this path, especially in South Asia and Africa.
@rediettadesse2828 Жыл бұрын
You need to learn about Africa before just open mouth and show your empty mind
@jirachi-wishmaker9242 Жыл бұрын
There is no South Asia. Indian plate is separate from Eurasian plate. That's why it's called Indian subcontinent.
@AreHan1991 Жыл бұрын
Very good news! Our planet is overcrowded
@Plumthyme3849 Жыл бұрын
This may stop Climate Change too
@sandeepkarety8124 Жыл бұрын
How about you self sacrifice and save the planet
@paranoah1925 Жыл бұрын
@@Plumthyme3849 not fast enough. I read that even if all human activity stopped today, a lot of affects have been rolled into action and will continue
@mistermood4164 Жыл бұрын
feel free to take yourself out if you truly believe that
@Mooxieclang Жыл бұрын
@@paranoah1925 As if the climate hasnt changed in the past. Just say you want the boot on your neck
@slypear Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown of truly difficult circumstances.
@EhEhEhEINSTEIN Жыл бұрын
3:50 the rest of his sentence here depresses me.. We can't simply consume and multiply forever
@ThePavankonakanchi Жыл бұрын
Population might be bad for the nation but good for nature
@dieselbuilder6588 Жыл бұрын
It's not declining fast enough, it can never be fast enough.
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
That decline will lead to economic instability and collapse for China. That in turn will lead to WW3 which will be 100 times worse for the environment than the current climate change problem. China that just slowly fades out is a better option and maybe they reevaluate their positions and start to do the right thing.
@ddoppster Жыл бұрын
the speed is the whole issue, nations get wrecked by a fast decline
@basbekjenl Жыл бұрын
China is working on that, they are freezing, starving, drowning even exterminating people. The official numbers are probably still very inflated and we will never know the real numbers with the CCP in charge. Anyway China is reducing the worlds population one Chinese person at a time.
@rollingdownfalling Жыл бұрын
@@bighands69 hence the coming tribulations, sure~.
@dieselbuilder6588 Жыл бұрын
@@bighands69 China will not collapse, its a dictatorship, they rule by absolute control and force, they need to go backwards, their explosive growth is not sustainable and enriching a regime like theirs will be a Russia 2.0 eventually wanting to dominate. I would rather have a democracy dominate with faults than a communist regime. The world needs to decouple slowly from China and diversify supply chains as fast as possible.
@Larsbor Жыл бұрын
If you keep needing more people too be able to maintain the economy and prosperous future for the current population something is seriously wrong!
@striker44 Жыл бұрын
Good news. Focus will now be on quality over quantity and contentment over covetment /expansionism.
@TheLilleyPad Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed as technology advances, the population decreases. I think with the rapid development of AI there will be solutions. But it’s not the government’s responsibility to decide how you do your family. The audacity to think they have the right to do such a thing!
@changliu2239 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, the best contraception is technological advancement. The development of electricity saved time for housewives to pursue high degrees and enter the workforce, the more money they earn the less willing they are to become full-time housewives, thus causing a drop in population
@TheLilleyPad Жыл бұрын
@@changliu2239 great point 👍🏻 I appreciate your input on women in the workforce. Nothing wrong with a working mom, and I don’t want to pass judgement on everyone, but sadly many leave their toddlers in the hands of strangers or elderly grand parents because, in the most part, many men aren’t leading and working harder to provide for the family. Love takes sacrifice. Our generation just doesn’t understand the blessings that come out of not always chasing after self-fulfillment. I’ve seen too many families broken because of men or women who don’t honour their commitment to their spouse and kids.
@changliu2239 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLilleyPad Great input, the psychological effects cannot be overlooked. About these psychological effects, I believe they are closely associated with technological development as well. Here is my opinion: several centuries ago the mortality rate was much higher than today because healthcare was bad. Parents didn't want to give their kids education because they could die at any moment, putting all previous investments to waste. Instead, parents gave birth to a lot of kids, because the more kids they had, the higher the chance they could have kids surviving until adulthood and have someone who could look after them when they become too old. Right now we have really kickass healthcare, kids don't die easily like in the old days, so parents start investing in their education hoping they can ride the train of upwards social mobility and earn big money. This change of mindset immediately increases the cost of raising a kid, since education is EXPENSIVE, thus creating the current image of "raising a kid is REALLY EXPENSIVE". Well well well, this image scares young people and they refuses to have kids, even if they have kids, some of them will, just like you've pointed out, give their kids to someone else. Do you think my theory make sense? I am really interested in knowing your opinion :)
@TheLilleyPad Жыл бұрын
@@changliu2239 Yes, that very well may be a factor. Many people complain about the cost of raising children as the reason they chose not to have kids. Unfortunately, in some cultures having only one child can lead to a single adult taking care of parents of both families (4 seniors) plus their own children under one roof. The idea of “it takes a village to raise a kid” is not true at all in my opinion. We all know what happens when there is more than one mother in the house! 😱☺️ I take parenting seriously and raise my child with biblical values.
@avinashreji60 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLilleyPad “village to raise a kid” is how it was for all of history until recently
@deeplife9654 Жыл бұрын
For those who do not understand , you need to keep young : old and female: male ratio appropriate . China is going to face this problem in big way.
@loot6 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it seems a lot of people don't get that. The average Chinese person seems to just think China already have too many people so a decline would be fine.
@vanessali1365 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯 right! That's why it's good news.
@luisf2793 Жыл бұрын
I remember I hearing because of the one child policy there is a significant difference between its male and female population
@gingerlicious3500 Жыл бұрын
@@luisf2793 Yeah, Chinese cultural norms put a premium on having sons so there were a lot of gender-selective abortions when the One Child Policy was enacted. The CCP's data (which likely grossly understates the problem) says there are 1.14 men for every woman in China. That's an enormous imbalance in a nation of 1.4 billion.
@luisf2793 Жыл бұрын
@@gingerlicious3500 well most societies value having a son because he passes on the name and such in patriarchal societies Not saying it’s good just that’s the way things are right now
@goobfilmcast4239 Жыл бұрын
Centralized Planning was sold as a long-term economic solution... but that is just hubris.....Top down Centralized Planning is actually the epitome of the short-term political fix.
@jasonnacci4091 Жыл бұрын
10:10 Kang Yuxia. Hero. Respect and love. What city is she in?
@wokeaf1337 Жыл бұрын
yeah the consequences will be beneficial for the environment.
@johnl.7754 Жыл бұрын
Not if it keeps growing richer like USA or other developed countries creating alot more pollution
@NoctLightCloud Жыл бұрын
@@johnl.7754 agree. I just saw a stastic today that in my country Austria, an average person ears 1500 animals (pigs, cows) in their life, while in Africa it's 150.
@wokeaf1337 Жыл бұрын
@@johnl.7754 growing richer doesnt mean more polution, it can also mean less polution if done right
@johnl.7754 Жыл бұрын
@@wokeaf1337 but vast majority won’t and things people import from other countries will also contribute to environmental problems.
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
@@wokeaf1337 yeah unlike the US, china is actually trying to go green with its power and transport infrastructure. We literally have americans state talking about banning EVs because it threatens the oil industry
@Master_Clout Жыл бұрын
That’s a good thing, they can save more money & use that more money to make better stuff.
@gingerlicious3500 Жыл бұрын
You realize that this means your average Chinese person will have to support both of their parents and all four of their grandparents singlehandedly, yeah? Not a great recipe for saving or investing money.
@Shontushontu Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you in the studio Fabian!
@DonLee1980 Жыл бұрын
family planning is something that should be considered over years of time. those who can afford to, may do so. Those who can't afford, shall think twice, which makes a lot more sense than the government saying you can have only 1 child today, 2 children tomorrow, and 3 children shortly after.
@kevinw1090 Жыл бұрын
It is quality not quantity that measures the overall strength of a nation. AI robots can take care of old people in the near future. The last thing the world needs is more people because human activities are destroying the environment.
@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 Жыл бұрын
Ai will not solve economic problems. It will just kill anything that doesnt make million dollars per month
@MichaelWolfe1000 Жыл бұрын
To me any reduction in population growth is in the best interest of saving the planet.
@avagrego3195 Жыл бұрын
Old fashioned thinining - more people means more people to sell goods too thus making the already rich richer.
@MarkDrisch Жыл бұрын
this is great news for literally everybody, but the super rich.
@fadli_1577 Жыл бұрын
Super rich: we're run out cheap labour
@kevinrobb86 Жыл бұрын
If you can force a 1 child policy you can force a 5 child policy
@sebastianbal1008 Жыл бұрын
they did with 3 but people aren't that interested in having children
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
Yep. It’s just a matter of time that there will be people from labs, indoctrinated from birth
@sidy6526 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianbal1008 it was voluntary. We are talking about CCP , they can force it on people if they feel there is big a threat because of declining population. They are just playing nice rn
@calvinblue894 Жыл бұрын
It's the same for all developed countries.. Getting kids is a measure of affordability these days.. Why not you report on Japan? Japan also has this problem
@KarthikSoun Жыл бұрын
As a Indian I understand basic stastics. Nothing goes down and Nothing goes up forever. Population dip is like a stock market dip, it might go up a lot more.
@singlendhot8628 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you guys can start reproducing a bit less? 1.4 Billion is no joke!
@hasselnttper3730 Жыл бұрын
Fertility rates seem unlikely to go up significantly post-industrialization and post-urbanization, even if you try to subsidise it like Russia. A lot has to change in the "modern world" for people to have children again.
@Xenomorph-hb4zf Жыл бұрын
@@singlendhot8628 no that's a bad idea. Just wait for it to eventually to go down by itself. Making people stop reproducing by government control just leads to the same problem as China. The birth rate will go down as people enter the middle class
@Xenomorph-hb4zf Жыл бұрын
@@hasselnttper3730 so even subsidizing children doesn't work at all? Then how is it possible that to increase birth rates. Immigration will work for a few decades but even that isn't permanent
@KarthikSoun Жыл бұрын
@@hasselnttper3730 How do you know? A dip in the graph never means the graph is heading to zero. It might go up on environmental and sociological factors change. Problem is we want to see change in days, months or years but nature takes decades, centuries and millenia.
@piedrablanca1942 Жыл бұрын
que buenas noticias! necesitamos que maximo hayan 1'000.000.000 en TODO el planeta para proteger lo que queda de la biósfera!
@objetivista686 Жыл бұрын
Imagining that subsaharian Africa will likely have around 4 billion people in 2100... humanity re--volution.
@Demun1649 Жыл бұрын
Living in a mega city must be a terrible experience. I'm glad I don't even live in a small city, I hate cities and their occupants.
@timz4217 Жыл бұрын
Shrinking is not a bad thing if your obese..........
@americanhotspur Жыл бұрын
Its actually far worse for one China's young population is predominately male so they will have a population collapse in 30 years not a decline. There will be no one to take care of the elderly, the stock market doesn't work as well if business are scaling down to meet a decreasing population as companies are far less likely to show profit or growth. Their will need to be a complete restructuring of their system and a lot of people will probably die.
@bighands69 Жыл бұрын
This will not take place over 30 years and will be taking place in the next 5 to 15 years. You will get to see it all play out.
@robbenvanpersie1562 Жыл бұрын
@@bighands69 Nah atleast 20 years
@aditya-ml6km Жыл бұрын
yes this is another issue. With one child policy in effect, most families were preferring males which has messed up the sex ratio in china. It is harder to find a bride in china and Chinese men travel to south east Asian countries for brides. Even though government has scrapped the one child policy, the economic burden and low population of women is preventing people from having more kids. We will probably see a big contraction in the Chinese population within the next 20-30 years.
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
china's sex ratio is like 1.05 men to 1 women, its not even as bad as india and india is still growing rapidly.
@BondJFK Жыл бұрын
@@aditya-ml6km How they prefer male fetus , So they abort female fetus ?
@alexykong9378 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such eye opening regarding social trends!#
@esperance2814 Жыл бұрын
Great move no one could live happily in one billion nation
@alejandromacias7609 Жыл бұрын
Lol. DW actually said that overpopulation lead to famine and didn't even mention Mao's disasterous farm collectivization.
@Nehas949 Жыл бұрын
Dw is China puppet
@anglo-saxonconnor817 Жыл бұрын
It's a good thing. China have been modernising and uprising since the 1980s until now which is almost 40 years already. By now her economy is transforming into the high end sectors which rely more on AI and robotics machines and lower end manufacturing are poised to be handed to the next uprising nation India which require alot of young and cheap labour. A smaller population in a highly technologically advanced nation is more beneficial to China instead.
@latinoheateddieguerrero7644 Жыл бұрын
Research the CHIPS ACT of 2021. Chinese Tech companies are being suffocated. Without microchips the Chinese Communist Party needs answers. If what you said were true, the CCP would keep its 1 child policy, instead their desperate solution is a 3 child policy.
@jjjkkshen2836 Жыл бұрын
DW doesn't think so.
@pervertt Жыл бұрын
Technological advancement depends on innovation, which you are less likely to get when young workers are worked to death and tech entrepreneurs are hounded out of public life. Substitute technological advancement with copy and paste.
@anglo-saxonconnor817 Жыл бұрын
China is already one of the most technologically advanced nation in this world by now already. They don't need to seek innovation at this stage when the rest of the world are playing catch up right now. They just need to train their current population how to work and get adjusted in the new high end sectors these days. Population figure is not important by this point anymore.
@kawaiilotus Жыл бұрын
Okay wumao...
@paulosilva3350 Жыл бұрын
The very same as the portuguese one. More people aging and dying, less child births, leaving to decrease in population and economic implosion...
@Thecrownswill Жыл бұрын
Damn Zeihans realy got everybody talking about this.
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
he gets one thing right and people believe all the other bunk predictions he makes. Wheres the part china splits up into different countries or Poland invades germany?
@bobsnabby2298 Жыл бұрын
Well its about time. Next India, then Africa. Do you REALLY think that there isn't a limit how much earth can carry. What WILL happen is the fight for the resources which have already started. It is for sure that at some point a world war3 WILL happen, and population drops to 1/5th.
@robbenvanpersie1562 Жыл бұрын
After 2030
@ChristmasSpirit606 Жыл бұрын
Damn I feel so happy for Fabian for finally flying back to civilized country. Felt so bad for him while he was stuck in Beijing
@LeonRamkumar Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@Kaeldorn Жыл бұрын
It's so jarring to me that a lot of news outlets are now concerned about declining birth rates. Perhaps the world's biggest problem is that there are too many people. If you're going to fight the economic effects of an aging population by promoting having more children, you're just postponing the real issue and posing even greater problems for future generations while ignoring that excessive birth rates played a very significant part in those warped age demographics in the first place. Does letting it run its course mean that the current working age population will suffer severe welfare loss in the short term (i.e. 10-30 years)? Yes it does. But never ending growth isn't sustainable anyway. Humanity will have to pay the price for its over indulgence eventually, unless you're betting on colonization of foreign planets for living space and resources being the solution and hoping that humanity will die out before it runs out of worlds to claim. But then I'd say you're really stretching it.
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
concern trolling at its best, its only bad if china does it.
@dxingchenify Жыл бұрын
I think this population decline is good thing for China and for the world.
@jakedee4117 Жыл бұрын
A couple of points to note here, firstly has anyone ever made an accurate population prediction 80 years into the future ? Secondly (and this is the problem with all predictions) that point in the future will be dealing with the conditions of that point in time, not those of today or the past, we just can't know what those conditions will be. China with a population of 6~700 million in the 22nd century will be a very different China than when it last had a population of 6~700million in the 19th century.
@MugenTJ Жыл бұрын
Maybe they just bring back mating like rabbit and younger labor force. Problem solved.
@michaelplunkett805910 ай бұрын
China at 300 million will be cleaner, more peaceful and wealthier.
@BVargas78 Жыл бұрын
In the long term this is for the better
@hujintao6862 Жыл бұрын
It has been declining for a decade. Nothing new here.
@zeusman123 Жыл бұрын
The demographic bomb has gone off along time ago. This is now inevitable.
@martinm8991 Жыл бұрын
Additional problem is the fact, that during one-child-policy times, families in China wanted the one child to be a boy - and they mostly did achieve this, in various ways. In result, the count of women in childbearing age is actually very low there.
@aditya-ml6km Жыл бұрын
110 males for 100 females in a country with median age of 38.4 years.
@___beyondhorizon4664 Жыл бұрын
Test Tube babies then, worst yet ... Desiigner babies😱
@hughmungus2760 Жыл бұрын
@@aditya-ml6km the biologically natural sex ratio is about 105 men to 100 women. This isn't even that bad.
@peacefullyme84811 ай бұрын
It is closer to 110 to 100 and is having major effects though and the bride price is increasing steadily (due to the high bride prices many women are seeking foreign partners as well). A man needs at least a house before proposing there and usually a dowry as well (In China its called a bride price) which is paid by the grooms parents. So it costs quite a bit just to get married much less to have a child and the ratio of women to men has been the biggest deciding factor in the increase.