Dyno Day @ P3 Tuning | Awful Fuelling & Lots to learn

Dyno Day @ P3 Tuning | Awful Fuelling & Lots to learn | Speed Triple 1200rs

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2 жыл бұрын

READ:
It is normal to get 10-15% LESS than manufacturers stated HP/figures, as these are usually taken from the CRANK. NOT the rear wheel. Dyno figures are taken from the rear wheel.
If I hear one more crackfiend, cry about "mines bigger than yours", or "your bike has a problem" (which yours does too, its called emissions, which also vary country to country) or, "The dyno is not calibrated"- I implore you to do some research and learn something for yourself, stop spouting reiterated shite you've heard from some forum gizmo.
These people are professionals, do this for a living, and have done so their entire working lives- and you aren't or haven't unless you prove me otherwise. Do not pretend you know everything, stop being defensive when you are challenged on your incorrect logic, and be humble in knowing youre wrong
Cheers!

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@yashinnil5047 2 жыл бұрын

That chap from P3 is a young legend in the making

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

He is indeed, cracking bloke and a wealth of knowledge

@stevenhoward8792 2 жыл бұрын

Cracking video mate and your new exhaust looks 👌, looking forward to seeing it fitted and the sound of it ,should be fantastic 👍.

@thumperjdm 2 жыл бұрын

Great video sir! Your dyno guy is a very knowledgeable, and likable chap! After years of owning multiple bikes, I've noticed that the more power a bike makes, the more pronounced the "snatch" of fuel-injection. Snatch was much more noticeable on my '08 CBR1000RR than my '13 ZX-6R. One of the "negatives" of a high-horsepower bike.

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate! Yeah usually with the engines with higher HP being more aimed toward the race side of things, they don't make great road bikes, i.e. Under 6k rpm

@Myself6M 2 жыл бұрын

What I cannot understand is, why the bike revs to 11,500rpm on the tachometer, but only to 10,800 on the Dyno. Any ideas?

@THETURBOTONY 2 жыл бұрын

Good video mate. Hope your well

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers pal good to hear from you, hope to see more from you soon!

@91scalloped Жыл бұрын

Miss the Shit out of your videos regarding the 1200, sir!!!

@Myself6M Жыл бұрын

@ 11:30 The Dyno guy stopped them bike revving before it hit rev limiter! If I would pay for a flush I would like to see how much power it makes until the rev limiter!

@sergeantsodom6969 Жыл бұрын

Hitting the rev limiter is not healthy for a bike especially static on a dynamic where heat can build up quickly. He stops just before the hard limit. Professionals know what they're doing.

@Myself6M Жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZeAga6F18iZg2g.html check @ 05:50, he hits the rev limiter and the bike makes power until 11300rpm. If you look at the graph, it makes 15hp between 10700rpm and 11.400. BTW almost every Dyno tune I have seen online of any bike the hit the rev limiter. The rev limiters of bikes are electronic and are much lower than the mechanical rev limits than the bikes can handle.

@rogerseelbach5330 Жыл бұрын

Yes! Awesome! This is great!

@sergeantsodom6969 Жыл бұрын

🤗

@scottsspeedtriplechannel 2 жыл бұрын

So the red line shows full throttle and the blue was the "normal" riding run? And he said the air fuel ratio needs to be about 14 to 15 parts air to one part fuel, is that right?

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

Yes Blue is more of a 'real world' steady roll-on and no that would be far too lean (as it is already) ideally 12-14 for air fuel, they trim it down to 13 as a rough guide line to stick to, but we will amend to figure out at which air fuel across the rev range suits the bike best by amending the things like the TCV and secondary throttle tables etc. It's a lot of work to get a baseline and there are no maps as of yet we are aware of

@kevinmill7965 2 жыл бұрын

When u doing vid of healtec servo bud with b4 an after sounds.. and also vid on decat and tune

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

Healtec vid should be up on Friday, exhaust install hopefully Sunday. Tune when I can afford it, very expensive

@kevinmill7965 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 is the tune an ecu flash what's cost of flash at p3

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmill7965 Nope it's a full tune there are no flashes currently that we are aware of so it involves compiling the hex straight from the ECU and interpreting that way. Woolwich haven't got s tune yet as far as I know so may wait for that. Not 100% on price as we don't know how many hours, but looking around £500

@kevinmill7965 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 i spoken to junction 33 he says he can flash ecu. With tuneecu app cost 350.. maybe worth a call

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmill7965 Cool cheers for letting us know

@91scalloped 2 жыл бұрын

Are you taking the bike back to get dynoed now that all the mods are on the bike?

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

I will be doing when I get the bike back yeah, I'll be documenting each change on the Dyno, from air filter to exhaust etc

@Myself6M Жыл бұрын

How is it possible the bike to rev out at 11.400rpm on your manual and on Rev-meter (TFT screen) and on the dyno only to 10.550 rpm. It makes no sense!

@sergeantsodom6969 Жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean by my manual, but It does make sense if you know how a bikes engine works and the constraintsbehind it, the limit on screen is determined by the software and what the developers want to put in place there. The limiters can run +/- a few K rpms from what is shown on screen.

@Myself6M Жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 The manual of the motorcycle, the one you follow to keep the warranty (page 204), sais electronic rev limiter is at 11400 rpm. There is only one dyno measurement online where the bike revs up to its rev limiter and makes 15hp more power, every one else cuts the bike before you hit the limiter. You can see it in this video too, the bike never hit its rev limiter, as the technician cuts it with the control he holds in his hand.

@sergeantsodom6969 Жыл бұрын

@@Myself6M I see. You aren't going to get 15hp more form running through the rev limiter, every dyno is different as is explained in this video, or the person had their bike tuned. Many variables can account for changes in power but something that drastic insinuates the bike was not stock. Majority of these stock bikes are making around 160 at the wheel, that accounts for drivetrain losses etc. Again, the technician here stopped as the bike hit redline. Taking it past that can damage the engine. Take from this what you will, however it is such a minor point that I would leave the delegation upto the professionals, or take your questions to them personally. Cheers

@Myself6M Жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 Thanks for the answer. As I said Triumph owners manual said 11.400 rpm for the rev limiter and the technician sais 10700. Only two possible explanations possible imho, either Triumph is lying or the technician is. If Triumph was lying I could ask my money back as the bike would rev lower than the owners manual.

@Myself6M Жыл бұрын

If the bike revs 700 rpm more and its torque is high in the revs it can make 15hp no prob. I am a physicist and an Engineer so, I am confident on what I am talking about. Also different Dynos read different torque (True) but all read the same RPM. If not then most likely the tire is spinning or your gear ratio input (in the program) is wrong. Why don't you watch the link I send you and the owners manual page 204? If you are still not convinced please let me know.

@Ducatijay72 2 жыл бұрын

Ta for the video, I've been looking at these guys for a mail in ecu for my xr, I'm also not interested in big nuts bhp just more everyday usability as the xr is low down just normal riding, ps your language is terrible 🙃🤣👍

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

No probs mate, glad I could help! Ive used them for years, cracking guys and very knowledgeable. Had my MT09 ECU flashed by those a few years back on the channel and it was a great experience And I know, it's something I'm trying to work in as I look back at the videos whilst editing shaking my head Cheers again

@Ducatijay72 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 cool thanks will have a look, only joking about the language 😁 have a good week 💪

@Ducatijay72 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 I had the ecu back from p3, I had just a bench flash, I'm so much happier now, it's like they added the missing bit I wasn't happy with, the best thing I can say about it is I actually don't notice it's been done but then realized I'm easily riding really slow in a U-turn etc with ease, it's a 1000 xr so quite heavy, also noticed where as I'd been in 2nd I'm in 3rd instead, also the majority of the usual xr buzz has gone, I've just ordered a air filter from them so they better hurry back from Silverstone 😃

@itsginty8779 2 жыл бұрын

Glad the swearing back's John.....cracking video as normal ...roll on the exhaust one, just one moan John stop making us wait for the video's pal.......

@sergeantsodom6969 2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, I have thought of this and realized, if people don't like it... They can watch someone else. I'm just being me and I don't like having to fake things Hahaha feel free to moan, I've actually only just been able to put it on yesterday so it will be up as and when it's edited pal, trying to stick to two vids a week at the mo in fear of over saturating the channel

@itsginty8779 2 жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsodom6969 I meant I'm glad your swearing again......you like me always swearing which is a good 👍