Dyson DC23 Head - Turbine (Impeller) Replacement (Repair)

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Dimcho Hvarchilkov

Dimcho Hvarchilkov

4 жыл бұрын

This is a video about repairing of the carpet cleaning head of Dyson DC23 Vacuum Cleaner.
Essentially, the main issue of these heads is the broken turbine. Normal you would need a new head, however, if you like DIY stuff, this could be an interesting video for you.
Guide - How to test the main unit suction /vacuum/ (fits for all kinds vacuum cleaners) and observation of the normal behaviour of the mechanism of the DC23 head:
• Dyson DC23 Head - Trou...
Thingiversa link for the turbine:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:34563
I've print it scaled down to 97% to reduce the hole size to 4.95mm.
I hope the video will be helpful :)

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@brianlazzar1
@brianlazzar1 3 жыл бұрын
Dimcho, excellent breakdown of the dyson head. Well explained and good instruction.
@richardmeamber5783
@richardmeamber5783 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you very much! I recently encountered this issue and earlier today went to the local library to 3d print the part. I just replaced the cracked part with the new 3d printed part and everything now works! Thanks again!
@nancymichael9902
@nancymichael9902 4 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. I hope my turbine is not cracked - it may be dirt or the bushing needs some lubricant. Fortified by your demonstration, i will take my machine apart and take a look!
@CaptainScratchy
@CaptainScratchy 3 жыл бұрын
Just fixed my vacuum cleaner thanks to your great explanation! Thanks a lot.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! :)
@skynet75master
@skynet75master 2 жыл бұрын
The instruction worked out great. Only thing I would recommend is to use hair dryer or heat gun to remove the side caps. I used hot glue to snug them back. In my neighborhood, local library provides 3D printing service. Cost me $2 to print out two turbines. Thank you Dimcho.
@garethv1969
@garethv1969 Жыл бұрын
Had a friend to print this out at 98% had to trim the lower part of turbine too, but now works thanks
@b-jscott
@b-jscott 2 жыл бұрын
I was thrilled to find this information! Thank you for an excellent explanation of the workings of the impeller / turbo.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that it's still helping :). You are welcome.
@langlaisFR
@langlaisFR 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! Thank a lot👍 I printed the piece at 97% as you recommended and it works. I experiment some frictions at the beginning because I inserted too much the iron warmed axis and the space remaining between the turbine and the conic piece was too tiny. I warmed again the iron piece , pull it a little and cut 1mm at the top of the blades. Everything is ok now. So it's important to note the exact position of the axis to avoid that fix
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. You are a lot welcome :) Yes, that is correct - the position of the turbine has tight tolerance and it easy can hit the casing. Normally, it fits well if stop applying force once the turbine hits the shaft's step, during the installation, however sometimes it may happen as your case. This is one of the reasons for my recommendation to print it 97-98% of its original size. I'm glad that you've fixed it! :)
@larzblast
@larzblast 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one man! Turns out the 3D printing service I contacted have printed a number of these before for other customers, so at 1/3rd the cost of buying another head which is destined to fail again, repairing my existing unit is a no-brainer.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that the video is still helping.
@zeno2712
@zeno2712 2 жыл бұрын
As you said, it may not be vital, but I also had damaged the seal that goes around the end that the red on/off valve fits on but was able to replace it with some thin adhesive-backed craft foam cut to 5 mm wide. I fitted it all the way around except for the raised area where the screwdriver slot is - I think that was the same as the original seal. One or two layers of duct tape cut to 5 mm wide might also help seal it.
@ghelazar
@ghelazar 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the excellent tutorial. One thing I did different was to heat the side caps and then it wasn’t all that hard to remove them without damaging them to finally expose the turbine
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. That is a great advice to preheat the caps before demount! Have used a hot air gun or something else?
@ghelazar
@ghelazar 3 жыл бұрын
A heat gun would be awesome, but I don't have one so I just held the parts above the fired up stove -- low enough to soak in the heat, but not too low so it would melt, definitely not on the open flame. It only took 30 seconds or so of heat, and then I could pry it off with a bit of effort - make sure you wear some protective gloves though.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghelazar I like the out-of-the-box solutions :) I'm also using the gas stove to solder/desolder components from aluminum-based PCBs, even though that I've got a hot air gun. It works pretty well by adjusting the height to control the temperature :).
@Steven-nv2cv
@Steven-nv2cv 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, this gave confidence to disassemble the turbo head. But I found the toothed belt was worn out. Dyson no longer supply them and I haven't so far found alternatives in UK. Any suggestions welcome.
@Lariea
@Lariea 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for the assembly of the turbine compartment?
@mrfaffley4479
@mrfaffley4479 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very helpful video. Do you know how to remove the plastic housing from the axle that holds the brushes? I have removed the metal fittings which grip the brushes (they can be tapped gently with a hammer). The plastic housing contains bearings on springs but will not slide off the axle. Those bearings need cleaning in mine, I can hear them grinding. Any help, much appreciated.
@comporangegt
@comporangegt 2 жыл бұрын
Will this fit the Dyson DC17 attachment? I just took my stairway attachment apart and my turbine was cracked.
@nordgermane4767
@nordgermane4767 Жыл бұрын
does anybody had a problem with the belt inside the turbine??? and if does anybody know where to get a new one? and of course I am also interested whete to buy such an impeller. or how is it working at that link from here?
@user-qd2tp3gt7k
@user-qd2tp3gt7k 9 ай бұрын
Great Video Dimcho! Unfortunately my problem was that the bearings on the brush shaft were bad ,but I do have a question for you , I have a Dyson DC11 brush head and can't find parts for, can I use the same Drive out of a Dyson Purple Animal Vacuum Mini Turbine Head and just swap them ?
@garethv1969
@garethv1969 Жыл бұрын
Yes very common, my turbo head for animals and the head you have both suffer with same problem, shame dyson dont supply a part. I'll see if i can find someone to print a part for me
@Quasisaur
@Quasisaur 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to bother but do you know if it is possible to replace a BELT? Mine justworn out and got torn :( Thank you UPD: Yes you can - did a video about it on my channel ))
@markgiles7660
@markgiles7660 5 ай бұрын
Would heat, from a heat gun, help with removing the cover on the screen side? Or possibly making it cold, placing it in the freezer? What is holding it, glue or some sticky tape? I may have to take mine apart, as the bearing is locked, or some thing is locked up, and I’d like to not damage it.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 4 ай бұрын
Hi, There is a locking feature (ring) on the top of the internal part which goes in a groove on the lid. There is nearly 360° grip and that makes it difficult to remove. In addition, there is a little foam gasket with light adhesive compound on it, but this is not even close to the strength of the locking ring. Heating up wold help and you might try it by pulling by hand or using something soft after you heat it. However, bear in mind that if you are heat it and using sharp tools such as screwdrivers, you might leave a permanent plastic deformation of the lid edge. I would not recommend placing in the freezer, as then the plastic will become harder and more brittle. You might try a little bit of heat (50°C) and try to pick it with a couple of small screwdrivers trying only on one half of the circumference an then stick some piece of tin (precut thin metal sheet) and then try the other side with he screwdrivers. Mind the sharp edges of the tin - to not cut your skin. It's high likely that you might have some marks after all.
@RaMessu
@RaMessu 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Dimcho, I watched this video mabe 50 times, but, the same desgin fund on the thingiverse did not worked well. It spins but barely. So I designed new rotor from the scratch but not much happened. Do you have any idea why this rotates not any, but barely? Thanks in advance, and many thanks on this video because if this not uploaded here, It would be much more harder to tear apart the turbine head. Have a wonderful new year.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad that the video was helpful :). Designing a new turbine is not an easy task, so congratulations about that. I guess you have already checked the things, which I will mention, however I've created an additional video by your request. It is about to test the performance of the main unit and show the normal behaviour of the mechanism of the DC23 head. Please find the video in the link, below or in my KZfaq channel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtF6ecx2qbiVYqs.html
@langlaisFR
@langlaisFR 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue at beginning, the iron axis was too much inserted, I warmed it again , pull it a little and cut 1mm at the top of blades : no more frictions
@turhankaratay3738
@turhankaratay3738 4 жыл бұрын
Merhaba dostum,çok teşekkür ederim!, Bu video ve için; çok faydalı oldu.Aynı şekilde 3d baskısını yaptırdım ve taktım, süper oldu.İki önerim var ; 1-Yan aparatları sökmek için ''ılık su'' mükemmel çözüm. 2-Zımpara ile traş/düzeltme....Greetings from İzmir,Türkiye...
@atahanayaz9875
@atahanayaz9875 4 жыл бұрын
selamlar baskıyı nerede yaptırdınız ve ne kadara mal oldu ?
@turhankaratay3738
@turhankaratay3738 4 жыл бұрын
@@atahanayaz9875 merhaba,3D atölye -K.yaka02323365653-50tl.iyi günler...
@levent7706
@levent7706 3 жыл бұрын
Bende deneyeceğim bakalım nasıl olacak.
@javierobregon395
@javierobregon395 2 жыл бұрын
Does the removable bottom plate have a gasket?
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, the bottom plate does have a gasket. The material is some kind of semihard foam and its profile is rectangular (approx 3x4 mm). It is split between the front and the rear part.
@alexmiller68
@alexmiller68 3 жыл бұрын
Dismantled the head found the impeller was'nt cracked or broken, however the hole had got larger than the shaft so would'nt turn the belt to the roller head. I wrapped some electrical isulating tape around the shaft to fill the gap and it now works perfect rollers are spinning again. Hope this helps anyone with the same problem.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. That may happen too. I guess in this case the manufacturer tolerance of the impeller has been higher, hence the press-fit -weeker. Normally there are tiny cracks around the shaft's press-fit and they cannot be seen if you don't try to stretch the place. However, in your case, you should have seen the crack after you assembled it with the tape added, hence no cracks in your turbine :). In case there are cracks, but the impellers look good overall, they might be glued, like in some of the comments below. Thanks again! Good feedback :)
@alexmiller68
@alexmiller68 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimchohvarchilkov683 Thank you for your comments, I watched your video on the dismantel of the roller head and thought about trying to glue the shaft to the impeller but the fit was not tight enough. Other people looking for a solution to resolve this problem now have ideas that will fix this for them without the cost of a new complete roller head. Thank you for the video..
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmiller68 You are most welcome :)
@dmA998
@dmA998 3 жыл бұрын
По акценту вроде наш) как снять эти серые крышки, не повердив корпус?
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Если вы будете очень нежны и терпеливы, вы сможете удалить их почти бесследно. Я просто хотел поскорее открыть его и посмотреть, нужно ли его починить. :) If you are very gentle and patient you could remove them almost without a trace. I just wanted to open it quickly and see if it is worthed to be fixed.
@jennydavies3435
@jennydavies3435 3 жыл бұрын
I took apart our turbine head and the impeller does indeed have a crack in it. I tried to superglue it but it won’t stay shut when I put the pin through it. I’m devastated! Do you know anywhere I could buy the impeller from? I think it’s terrible that dyson don’t sell this very cheap part and force people to buy the whole turbine head again.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, the best option would be if you know someone with a 3D printer, or use some 3D printing shops. It is not difficult to print. If you cannot find any options I could print you one for free. You just need to arrange the shipping. As I got few requests until now, I will consider to print few of these and place them on eBay at the cost, a bit more than just the matetial and the electricity....
@jennydavies3435
@jennydavies3435 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimchohvarchilkov683 Thanks for the reply. I might be able to get someone to print one. I couldn’t find the link to the model however, could you repost on this thread please? If not do let me know and I would definitely buy one you’ve made on eBay! Just think of all the broken machines you could save going to landfill by printing parts and giving them a new lease of life - amazing!
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennydavies3435 No worries. I'm glad to help :) I've just tried the link in the description and it seems it's still alive. However, there it is: www.thingiverse.com/thing:34563 If you struggle to download it, please let me know and we may transfer it another way. P.S. - I'm planning to release the eBay variant soon, as I agree that there is more life in these heads. I haven't believed that so many people would like to repair them, at the moment I've released the video...
@jennydavies3435
@jennydavies3435 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimchohvarchilkov683 hiya dimcho, a friend of a friend 3D printed one for me but it looks all rough on the surface, not smooth like yours. You can see the layers and the edges are bumpy as a result which will affect performance. Any ideas for what went wrong? If not I would be very willing to buy one off you and could transfer you money as a thank you gesture?
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennydavies3435 Hey Jenny, don't bother at all that the surface is rough. I've printed mine at 0.12 and 0.16 mm layer height instead of the default resolution of 0.2mm per layer. Yes, it has been a bit smoother but the 3D prints are rough by default and it needs post-processing (sanding, polishing, thermal, etc). I can send you detailed photos and you may see that my turbines are not perfect indeed. One you could do is to remove eventual strings and small sharp bumps by using a gas burner, as I did in the video. Just be careful as holding the heat could melt and deform the geometry. Otherwise, just mount it on the shaft and give it a try :) It should be fine. Good luck! :)
@michaelp3106
@michaelp3106 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Dimcho, as I have the same problem with my DC 20 head, I don't have a printer so I cant make one. Would you consider selling me a Impeller?
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Apologies for the delayed reply. I don't know if you manage to find/print a turbine. I could print you one for free. You just have to arrange transport.
@michaelp3106
@michaelp3106 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimchohvarchilkov683 Hi, Thanks for getting back to me. That's very kind of you offer me one for free. I don't need one now as I fixed my broking one by heating up two old keyrings, One small & one bigger, I melted the smaller one close to the centre & the larger one nearer the outside making sure they were both level with the surface so as not to foul anything. I must say that it works a treat & I'm pretty sure their won't be any problems from now. Again many thanks for your offer in printing me one. Many thanks & stay safe from this nasty covid 19.
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelp3106 That's a good approach if the shaft whole is still circular. Ours was pretty worn and shaped like an uneven, excentric oval - very fard to balance. Moreover, the blades at one of the sides were ~30% worn out as the friction to the case. I'm glad that it worked for you :).
@agnesgurney3668
@agnesgurney3668 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I live in Ireland. I dont have access to a 3d printer. Does anyone know where I can buy this turbine part. As my one is smashed unfortunately. Thanks in advance.
@willwaier1149
@willwaier1149 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can you print me a turbine wheel. I can't find one anywhere. Thank you. Will
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I printed two pcs yesterday. I'll put them on eBay at a symbolic price, in favour of the DIY community, in the next days :). I'll put a comment that this is not an original component and it is a raw 3D printed component which does the job.
@willwaier1149
@willwaier1149 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimchohvarchilkov683 Super, I will keep a lookout for it. Thank you. Will
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@willwaier1149 Hi Will, I listed it yesterday evening, but it seems that it still not published. I guess it needs some time...
@willwaier1149
@willwaier1149 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimchohvarchilkov683 i will keep an look out. Just checked and don’t see it yet
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@willwaier1149 Hi Will, please see my comment in the thread above. Apologies.
@kaukabnawaz5878
@kaukabnawaz5878 3 жыл бұрын
Hi where did you buy the new impeller?
@samuelmartin2817
@samuelmartin2817 3 жыл бұрын
Put the shaft in freezer and turbine in hot water
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
That I a very good tip and it is worth it to give it a try. :) The trouble is that the 3D printed holes are often smaller in diameter than in the 3D design file, especially for holes less than 5...10 mm. For instance, 1mm hole could be clogged completely. Freezer/hot water trick may work well if the hole is predrilled with 4.9...5mm drill bit at very slow RPM.
@neiljohnson2662
@neiljohnson2662 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Great video thanks for sharing. I would be willing to buy new impeller if you would be willing to make and send. Or a CAD drawing so I could get one made locally.
@muhammadnawazkhan
@muhammadnawazkhan 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the new impeller?
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have 3D printed it. There is a link in the description, where you may find the 3D model.
@markgiles7660
@markgiles7660 5 ай бұрын
Dyson knew exactly what it was doing when it glued down that side. Not nice when manufacturers deliberately make things difficult to repair by its consumers. 🧐
@igorpereira6365
@igorpereira6365 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the front of this impeller look like a propeller?
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
Appologies to everyone to whom I have been willing to provide a "free" impeller (turbine) on the cost of the delivery services and materials. I've tried to list the item on eBay, but the listing has been rejected. EBay have not provided any reasons of the rejection, however I've checked some similar cases and found some possible reasons: * Intellectual property legal issues (Dyson); * Not allowed selling of replicas, counterfeited and reverse engineered items; * Taxing issues (it can not be prooven that the idea is without profit); * Advartising issues related with Thingiversa and KZfaq; * etc. Welcome to the real world...
@dimchohvarchilkov683
@dimchohvarchilkov683 3 жыл бұрын
@@albert.h Apologies for the delayed reply. I've already got attention on myself with this, so I could have legal issues if I do it! Please look for 3D printing services near your place. There are many shops, which providing 3D printing. There is a link to the 3D model of the turbine in tge description of the video.
@dianaashley127
@dianaashley127 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for offering to do this at least. Your video has been very helpful. I am trying to find someone with a 3D printer who can print one for me. Please can you send us the 3D printer link again? I can’t find it. Diana
@randycollens2681
@randycollens2681 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, Dyson doesn’t care if replicas are made. Look at every battery and part listed on Amazon and eBay, none are oem
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