e252: Does The Legendary Kyosho Optima Mid Live Up To Its Expectations? We Hit The Track & Find Out

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RC Retro

Жыл бұрын

We compare the Kyosho Optima Mid Rerelease to the original Optima Mid and then hit the track to see if the rerelease lives up to its legendary status.

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@fiatfixie4344
@fiatfixie4344 Жыл бұрын
I raced one at a club level in the late 80's early 90's on carpet and pavement. Didn't know what I had. The thing was so simple, forgiving and dialed. I won a lot with it against more expensive, more modern cars. I didn't realize how much of it was the car until I tried dialing in other buggies in other classes.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
So true. Very forgiving….made me feel like a pro… lol 😂
@BajaJeremy
@BajaJeremy Жыл бұрын
Excellent!! I'd say the short wheelbase version MID is well suited to the tight turns and transitions on Phil's track. Next Legendary release? I'm gonna go with the Turbo Ultima. Keep 'em coming Kyosho! $$$$
@peterhootonrc1498
@peterhootonrc1498 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant I’m saving for some kyosho cars, love all the legendary series. Great video car looks amazing 👍
@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC
@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC Жыл бұрын
Looks like it handles amazing bud. Great work as usual!
@DeliriumElectric
@DeliriumElectric 2 ай бұрын
Very nice upgrades by Kyosho. Looks great and seems to handle really well. Love your track!
@markscotchford4159
@markscotchford4159 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. Yes I really like the Optima Mid and wanted to see what you thought about it but also, the video was really good because your personality came through a bit more. Hey, be you, if you want to say awesome, you say awesome. :-)
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Awesome… comment lol… thanks
@_.Lumi._
@_.Lumi._ 16 күн бұрын
One of the most important revisions for me is the metal gear train. It weighs a ton but can probably handle any motor you can throw at it!
@roccomarcelli821
@roccomarcelli821 Жыл бұрын
Still need to build mine, remember when the original came out went straight to the hobby shop to pick one up. 👍🏻
@trevorfurlotte
@trevorfurlotte Жыл бұрын
As for more re-releases I'm hoping for an updated monster truck line, Double Dare and Big Brute specifically.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
I’d love for Kyosho to rerelease their car crusher line of monster trucks from the the early 90s.
@davidbabin4813
@davidbabin4813 Жыл бұрын
Big Brute was my first hobby grade RC. Sorry I sold it.
@jerzinho92
@jerzinho92 Жыл бұрын
I still have my double dare :)
@DipeshHinduja
@DipeshHinduja Жыл бұрын
I think it is time for some timed laps on Phil’s track! Or the side by side racing, basically something to put some results to the driving feel of the car. Great video, I am almost convinced I need to get one of these kits over the modern RTRs in the same price range!
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Think you are right. Cold weather is here so perhaps in the spring. I’d like to do another “Versus” video. Havnt done one in a while.
@XARIER39
@XARIER39 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Kyosho cars! I've owned many a Tamiya but not a single Kyosho. Super envious bro.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Maybe you’ll get one soon. I’d highly recommend
@DavidVanmeterDutch
@DavidVanmeterDutch 5 ай бұрын
Turbo optima was first high level rc car I ever saw at local fair where they had a race. That was in 1987! And have loved all the Kyosho cars ever since.
@Blakktastikvision
@Blakktastikvision Жыл бұрын
Love it, and already knew I would.....but I'm gonna hold out for the Turbo Optima Mid SE and go from there......I'm finishing up a Turbo Optima with a Mamba X/5400kv and it SHREDS/RIPS/TEARS....U NAME IT....Handles like a Mongoose one steroids!🤣🤣🤣 Already kno what to expect. Look for the you tube video of the Optima Mid vs. the Xray XB4......that will give u a better idea of how much more this buggy is capable of.....keep it coming Bro!
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Thanks and I'll look for that video. Retro v. modern. sounds interesting.
@78lagwagon
@78lagwagon Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro yeah I'm pretty sure the video is from Rama (Alcyon) who is one of the gurus when it comes to mids and setting them up for high power and racing them against modern buggies. All prior to the rere. Your buggy looked great out there, I've got mine, planning on building it over Xmas with the exo RC lwb chassis. Cheers for all your great content!
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
I watched it. I’m Impressed
@Blakktastikvision
@Blakktastikvision Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro Yes sir! Whenever I build mine, I'm setting it up to run on clay which is popular here in my area in Michigan......I love Retro! Like the Terminator said...."Old......not Obselete" 🤣
@bluegroovemodelsports9650
@bluegroovemodelsports9650 Жыл бұрын
Very nice build. Thanks for sharing
@Mr1stlevel
@Mr1stlevel Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@powersmodelgarage
@powersmodelgarage Жыл бұрын
Seems to handle the track really well. Looks awesome too.
@allpraisetothemosthigh7770
@allpraisetothemosthigh7770 Жыл бұрын
Looks great, really cool!
@Ah87100
@Ah87100 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice 😊I haven’t built mine yet. I also like building off camera.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
I enjoy it more... take my time... really get to know the parts and build lol... sounds like I'm talking about something else lol... but yes... agreed.
@paulus842000
@paulus842000 Жыл бұрын
Good color choices, she looks really sweet ❤️
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Thought the black wheels really finishes it off.
@damienbracey6739
@damienbracey6739 Жыл бұрын
I haven't built mine yet. I still have my original mid with an aftermarket LWB conversation. They are a great car.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
totally are. I can't wait to see what Kyosho puts out next...
@rc-fannl7364
@rc-fannl7364 Жыл бұрын
Nice drive, and they added some neat features to this re-re, I remember cursing these shock clamps. If too loose, the collars slip upwards, too tight and you risk stripping the threads, or slightly deforming the shock body, so the piston starts binding. Threaded collars fix all these issues.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Absolutely... now there is another kit coming out or maybe it came out... where all the parts are carbon... front/rear shock tower and chassis/upper deck.... I love the optima mid
@ShenRC
@ShenRC Жыл бұрын
A beauty!! I like how they made the adjuster for the belt right on the side so easy to access! You get any dirt in on the belt? I ran my javelin on the ball field and it got some sand inside on the belt.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
So I heard of issues with these sucking in dirt through the motor. With this optima mid and my javelin, I take a thin black sock and make motor Covers which are held in place with a zip tie around the motor. Havnt had any issues yet with either of my RCs. Maybe that’s how it’s getting into your belt???
@ShenRC
@ShenRC Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro Hi it may be but I think I may have used that fiber motor washer that tamiya makes those usually stop dirt from getting in... I will have to look and see for sure if I used one I forgot. Thanks
@tonycruz2296
@tonycruz2296 10 ай бұрын
My first duty station after joining the Air Force was Kadena Air Base Okinawa Japan back in 1985 and I was fortunate to purchase the original optima. I did not buy the optima mid when it came out but instead bought the Lazer ZX which at the time was made to compete with the Yokomo YZ10 and boy it was a dream to drive and tweak for racing. I kept that lazer until 2021 I sold it as a bundle along with a Trinity EV10, an original Tamiya Bruiser and other 90’s era rc buggies. It was hard to see them go. Anyway I would like to see Kyosho re-release the Lazer ZX. It was Kyosho’s real 4WD performance platform.
@tonyquicklaps4347
@tonyquicklaps4347 5 ай бұрын
I had a Mid then the Mid turbo. Awesome cars, ran them into the ground. Moved to Pro Cat, wish I hadn’t as the Mid was so predictable. My mate then bought a Lazer ZX and whipped everyone with it. What a car that was.
@rcicons4915
@rcicons4915 Жыл бұрын
I have one to build at some point. The mids and lazers just run so smooth. They handle like nothing else.
@BJETNT
@BJETNT Жыл бұрын
I have every version of the Optima but I was never able to get a Lazer!! I might have to fix that!! I have heard they are awesome!
@alphawlff
@alphawlff Жыл бұрын
@@BJETNT I have a Lazer ZX-5 and it is awsome.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
I’d like to get my hands on a lazer ZX. Perhaps in the future.
@rcicons4915
@rcicons4915 Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro there is one on eBay. I ran my zx today. It was awesome.
@traxxasfans
@traxxasfans Жыл бұрын
Great job
@robertless6404
@robertless6404 Жыл бұрын
Amazingly Awsome..
@robertwatsonbath
@robertwatsonbath 11 ай бұрын
Awesome! ;)
@kenblockx2010
@kenblockx2010 Жыл бұрын
i hope they do the optima mid custom special or the ULTIMA PRO XL
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Agreed. 2 good choices…
@rj.ch.
@rj.ch. Жыл бұрын
one of my very favorite cars
@isaiahfurrow7414
@isaiahfurrow7414 Жыл бұрын
I have the Ultima and Turbo Optima, not sure if I will do the Mid, my LHS has one on the shelf, along with the Beetle and some others... I'd probably do the Beetle and hold off for a LWB later on. As for future releases, I hope for another Ultima, the Turbo or Ultima 2, or.... I also really hope they make a Truck in the Legendary Series... Cheers!
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Me too. I’d love one of there vintage monster trucks to be released.
@trevorfurlotte
@trevorfurlotte Жыл бұрын
I like this track a lot more than the track that shall not be named.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@m111kca4
@m111kca4 6 ай бұрын
I have two original ones, had one for years and got another a few years back. With my original have a full set of different tyres
@simonz28
@simonz28 Жыл бұрын
i loved mine so much i bought another one ,so now i have a nib and a runner
@rickardfrick2959
@rickardfrick2959 Жыл бұрын
Re-re Triumph would be rad!
@schuttrostig5729
@schuttrostig5729 Жыл бұрын
Handles phantastic. I think the next release will be pro-ultima, as the turbo ultima had the strange platinum shocks which were not good. But maybe they call it turbo optima and bring it with the u-chassis and gold shocks, who knows.
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Kyosho announced today the release of the Ultima SB dirt master. A modern buggy platform with a retro look. www.bigsquidrc.com/teaser-kyosho-1-10-ultima-sb-dirt-master-2wd-buggy/
@AndyMoulton
@AndyMoulton Жыл бұрын
So we got the Optima Mid, and now the Fantom CRC-II, both 4WDs. My guess is they'll give us a 2WD next, maybe the Turbo Ultima?
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Turbo Ultima 🤔… hope so.. I don’t have my Ultima anymore so a turbo Ultima would be a nice replacement
@AndyMoulton
@AndyMoulton Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro I still have to build mine!
@JCos71
@JCos71 Жыл бұрын
Any thought about getting a reproduction set of the original tires for the release?
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
I have a set of Marwan tires. I got a custom painted body on the way for the optima mid. So I have a runner body and shelf queen body. When it’s on display, I’ll put the repro tires
@robambrose4199
@robambrose4199 Жыл бұрын
I'd like an optima mid.i like the colour way / livery
@mikebinsufficientfundsraci748
@mikebinsufficientfundsraci748 Жыл бұрын
Raider ARR would be a cool rerelease
@muddfoot69
@muddfoot69 Жыл бұрын
Will other brands (AE/Losi) rims of today fit this car?
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
There are companies that make 2.2 wheels with 12mm hex for these Kyosho's which would allow you to use different tires from Proline or Jconcepts or any other RC company that produces tires. I have 2.2 wheels on my Kyosho Javelin with Jconcept Goosebumps. www.jcracingproducts.co.uk/wheels/kyosho-1/kyosho-optima
@allpraisetothemosthigh7770
@allpraisetothemosthigh7770 Жыл бұрын
Warp speed build.. faster than they made the goof juice lol
@richarddiiorio9640
@richarddiiorio9640 Жыл бұрын
What do you use to dye the wheels?
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
rit dye... but you have to be careful. Black is easy to dye... any other color you have to use a little amount and not leave in as long. if you put to much dye in or leave in too long you will not achieve the color you are looking for and will come out too dark..
@jamesmooney7538
@jamesmooney7538 Жыл бұрын
Where did u get the se model????
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
This is the optima mid and some of the early kits came with the stickers for the TURBO Optima Mid. These are not the stickers/decals for the SE.
@Klr81976
@Klr81976 Жыл бұрын
Turbo Optima Mid Se
@speckledjim_
@speckledjim_ Жыл бұрын
Tell me thats the Ultimate warrior on the top shelf
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
Oh it is. Macho Man is up there too in the opposite corner.
@speckledjim_
@speckledjim_ Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro ha ha ha brilliant :)
@duncanmarriott2052
@duncanmarriott2052 Жыл бұрын
Turbo Ultima please
@user-jf7uc7dw7o
@user-jf7uc7dw7o 2 ай бұрын
One way bearings are missed.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could have someone do the Rick dye thing for me because when I did it I ruined some rims and it ticked me off cuz it seems harder than it looks to do that but you guys make it look easy I should send them out to be done by somebody the next time I think about it.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
Even though I like this track better than the other one I do miss that you aren't going to be running on the other track anymore I thought you should be able to travel to different tracks and have races more of them.
@RCKickschannel
@RCKickschannel Жыл бұрын
I would take a punt at the Kyosho LWB Mid next. The question is, what one? TOMS?
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
So correct me if I'm wrong, the Turbo Optima Mid SE and Special both come with the LWB? I know you have all of them and are far more knowledgeable since you have first hand experience with them. What's the difference between the SE and Special again?
@jamesstrutt2208
@jamesstrutt2208 Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro The SE is swb, the custom, special and custom special are lwb. 👍 Great video, nice to see the car running.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
I think they should make a new legendary line called the legendary basics for like the rocky the Pegasus The Icarus vehicles like that and then bring out that four-wheel steering one that they made exceed I forgot that should be on the regular legendary series but that's what they need to do because the basics would be cheaper like maybe 75 to $100 cheaper in kit form because of the materials in it.
@bradkalman2353
@bradkalman2353 Жыл бұрын
It very good but it looks like it really should have more speed for that big track.
@UKPhoto111
@UKPhoto111 Жыл бұрын
The mic level seems to be kinda quiet inintially then very loud at the end. Maybe a program such as Audacity might help with the mic levels? Great video otherwise!
@DavidSmith-jj5pr
@DavidSmith-jj5pr Жыл бұрын
just found out the last shipment of optima mids does NOT include the turbo optima mid decals or black wing. since that's the build I wanted, I'll be skipping this one, unfortunately. 🙁
@RCRetro
@RCRetro Жыл бұрын
You can buy the black wing from KyoshoUSA and get turbo optima stickers from MCI. Don’t let that stop you from getting one of these
@DavidSmith-jj5pr
@DavidSmith-jj5pr Жыл бұрын
@@RCRetro I could, I have a TBG body and MCI sticker set coming in the mail right now for my childhood Raider resto. you could order pretty much anything, but that's what's irritating about Kyosho deleting it from the kit. it's a premium product, not cheap. I think I'd rather wait to see what they ship next. as an aside, that reedy 19t and hobbywing 1060 esc in the turbo optima is fantastic. very smooth. Wish I could take it to the track, but it's reserved for nice soft surfaces like grass. can't beat up a car that goes on a display shelf! beatings are what traxxas is for 🤣
@RCDEPENDANT
@RCDEPENDANT Жыл бұрын
I'd say you could buy a much better handling, more durable, modern kit for the same price.
@robambrose4199
@robambrose4199 Жыл бұрын
Please suggest some better ones for the same price.
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