Yeah, that might have been my strike zone, not JP's.

Yeah, that zone is below his balls

It would be nice if MLB.TV made the strike zone box an optional overlay. But they can't do that because it's baked into the feed they're rebroadcasting. Overall considering MLB.TV's price ($30 a month, nearly double what a lot of standard streaming services cost despite only offering one sport) I wish they'd offer way more features. Take a cue from esports spectator tools and let us either choose to watch the broadcast feed or pick any camera we want to view from, or even let us tile multiple POVs. But they won't do that because the RSNs would throw a fit.

@@patientallisonno strike zone should be a feature. I feel like they are forcing artificial lines on viewers, it takes away from the game imo.

They read the rules.

They see what is on TV. That’s why we have so many problems…this is easily fixable. I do not understand why MLB can’t get their arms around this.

​@1969EType MLB doesn't want to. Controversy draws attention and increases revenue. Whether in the park, on TV or on social media. It makes $$$$.

@@donh6416 This is EXACTLY correct…exactly correct. MLB is WWE now.

My understanding is that what they get in the dugout doesn't have the box at all.

Nope. The two devices are not connected.

A buddy of mine calls minor leagues that use ABS. He says he gets a tone and calls accordingly. When he get arguements from the bench, he points to the ear piece gives a little shrug to the bench. Which deflates the flack. Doesn't change the happiness of the complaining team.

@@donh6416 I heard the ump at my game yell over at the dugout, "It's not what I would call, but I don't get a say in this!"

@@donh6416 the trouble with that of course (minus a terrible strike zone) is that frustration will eventually boil over on some call that *is* up to the umpire.

@@Renegade605 Good point. I've never thought about that. I can hear it in my head right now. "You don't control the zone, but you do control that garbage call you just made on the play at home! You don't have to worry about balls and strikes, so maybe focus on getting the other stuff right!"

@@XXelpollodiabloXX nice rhyming.

They do, to the extent of using prefilled data, but it can’t adjust to measured zone height data on the fly which means it takes until the numbers are processed, sometimes overnight, to get accurate measurements.

@@CloseCallSportsumm, no they don’t. In the Diamondback’s booth in DC there were three monitors. All had “program”, what the fans in Arizona saw at home. Unless one of the announcers is looking at a website on their tablet or laptop there is no magic feed.

​@@mikecumbo7531 Did you not even read the comment? The entire thing, not just the first line. It's hard, I know, but we believe in you.

It’s very intriguing as a CS major.

Looks like JSON, which always gives me a migraine.

That's how the numbers are provided. There is an API for retrieving that data.

You got my voice!

Boo! Yeah, sometimes the vertical (high/low) boundaries don't work, but the horizontal (inside/outside) boundaries changed the game a couple decades ago by eliminating a lot of called strikes that were way outside. Besides, even the vertical boundaries are pretty good most of the time. They just need to educate the broadcasters in the booth that the vertical boundaries are estimates and should be taken with a grain of salt. I actually watched Jomboy's breakdown on this pair of ejections before finding this video, and I could tell pretty easily that the top of the strike zone graphic was far too low for this batter and the stance he took.

Over

MLB needs to spend the money and get their system integrated with their broadcast partners instead of leaving all of them to make their own.

Go watch videos of ABS ejections. Coaches/players still argue with the PU as he points to his ear signaling that he isn’t making the calls. They argue and get ejected anyway. Quite funny.

@@FAB_GNC lol. thanks.

Lol, why would the competition committee care about this Suspend Doug Eddings!

I get why he was upset about the first pitch of the game. At some point you have to move on.

@@vincentwendt720 At some point MLB needs to move on from umps calling balls and strikes.

@@Thanatos2k”Pitch data shows Robo Ump Strike Zone didn’t work as hoped.” Did you miss that part?

@@FAB_GNC Like a malfunctioning shot clock in the NBA, if they were using the system they would stop the game and correct it before continuing play.

@@Thanatos2kunless of course it can’t be fixed at that moment. then what is your answer? Oh and the system still has some issues with vertical.

They were outside the “box.” But the box was not an accurate representation of the zone.

What is wrong with Root? Their main director is excellent.

@@mikecumbo7531 Scorebug is terribly outdated, they have technical issues with their graphics about once a week, one time the feed glitched and repeated the same pitch for 2 hours, they take up a bunch of screen space with the pop out "stat" of "BATTING 6TH IN THE ORDER"

Correct.

Ah yes, let's compare tasks of which I have no concept of the relative difficulty like that's some kind of gotcha.

@@Renegade605 relative difficulty? Are you saying putting people on the moon should be easier than an automated strike zone?

@@noellutsey5620 well, we did that. With a small fraction of the processing power we have now. So yes, it was easier.

@@Renegade605 I'm just saying that's pretty much one of the greatest achievements in history

The data literally says otherwise.

Players don't

@@user-vu6jg1wj3o You realize that would indicate that the players are wrong?

Only once they start fining Doug Eddings' optometrist

If you watch a lot of games, it's pretty obvious that that isn't true. This box had the bottom edge at his shins and the top edge mid stomach.

@@srellison561 what isn’t true?

@@mikecumbo7531 That all the TV stations use the MLB box. Different coverages very obviously have different sized boxes.

@@srellison561 everything comes from MLB in NJ.

@@mikecumbo7531 I believe you, but it's a big country with a lot of different networks that broadcast baseball

So do you suggest giving tall batters the advantage or short batters the disadvantage? Come on, the strike zone changes with height for a reason.

​@@Renegade605 I imagine the players would do better at bat if they KNEW where the strike zone was rather than this randomly sized zone (See Aaron Judge, does he have an advantage at the moment? Or is he disadvantaged?) 6'7" is about the tallest batter these days, 5'7" is about the smallest. Considering the strike zone going to differ by at most 6": 3" at the bottom, 3" (+3 from the bottom) at the top at the moment. Split the difference (use the median 6'1") and you have it. The strike zone definition is variable because the original writers of the rules didn't have instant replay, tv strike zone boxes (that are incorrect) and batters/managers/coaches complaining about every single pitch that they go check in the dugout on their ipads. It's much like the definition of a check swing. That needs to be codified to an objective standard and then it becomes reviewable. And runner's lane interference. Run in the prescribed path, you're good, don't run it it, you're out.

@@ericweeks8386 it sounds like you just don't like baseball that much. There are plenty of other sports to watch that don't have judgment calls.

​@@Renegade605Where's Bill Veeck and Eddie Gaedel when you need them?

@@Renegade605 I'm a computer programmer, I like things that don't use "fuzzy logic" (or the current buzzword, "AI"). I like things to be defined well, because if you don't... well... you get these videos :).

Did you miss this part, “Triple A Pitch Data Shows Robo Ump Strike Zone Didn’t Work As Hoped”?

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Thinking it’s excusing the umps rather than defending them from atrocious arguments, eh? Many times the umps follow protocol exactly.

@@mbdg6810 Was that first pitch of the game following protocol?

Yet batting .300 is really good, right? Or you can look at it as failing 70% of the time. Humans (and robots) make mistakes. Relax and enjoy the game.

@@Thanatos2k Right. We watched the human miss one call, and then the robot miss three.

@@MwD676 Since they aren't using the robot no one corrected it. If they were, they'd stop the game like when the NBA shot clock has an issue and fix it before proceeding. Who is stopping the game to correct these umps?