Have you ever owned a pet or even become slightly attached to the animals you grew up with on your farm? Why do you find it ridiculous that people view animals as somebodies when humans and animals have a deep ability to love one another? Even if you arent an animal lover - would you stop your car to let a goose and her chicks cross the road? Just because an animal isn't a human why can we not grant them the respect of recognising their sentience? It's obvious they feel pain and love towards their families just like people do. I understand the reason that you are killing certain animals to protect crops etc. But why then make the leap that animals are basically just objects?

Impressive how you can talk for 13 mins while keeping the valid argument counter at zero

Because it said "debunked" in the title I thought this video would actually have good arguments..

Are we just gonna ignore that a big majority of people who do any sort of exercise and sports take at least one or two supplements? I love how ordinary actions of carnivores are suddenly condemned when a vegan does it.

You are joking man, you have no idea how horrific farming actually is. You saying living in a bloody crate where you can't stand up is bloody "good standard"

I was expecting a southern accent rather than a British one. My prejudice is showing.

Im speaking as an omnivore: - you are speaking as though animals are lesser purely because of our capability to kill them. They are victims of us eating them. We forcably produce these animals so there is enough food for us to eat; it would be better for the minority of animals if we didn't forcably birth them with the intent of using and then killing them. - There is no way to humanely kill something that is healthy and doesn't need to die. The nice sounding stuff on the labels doesn't change the fact that there is no humane way to kill a healthy animal of any kind. - those people oftentimes don't have a healthy vegan diet, and even if it wasn't possible to be healthy on a vegan diet if we have easily accessible supplements we still don't need to kill something to live healthy lives; it just seems easier to eat meat for those of us that do because that is all we know - whether animals are able to have compassion or not, that doesn't change the fact that we, an ANIMAL is able to do that but in a world where we don't need to eat animals we still ignore that compassion so we can have the joy of eating the tasty meat. - whether we are "custodians" of them or not, we still choose to give them a short life, and choose to force them into situations that they can't understand. We decide what animals deserve to live long lives and which ones deserve to die for our sensory pleasure. Even if we give a cow a good life, which i don't believe to be true as it is still an unnatural life, we still by our own choice decide that the life of a "pet" animal like a cat or dog is of more value than a "food animal" like a cow or pig, because the taste of a bacon burger has more value than the life of these animals so long as we can choose to be willfully ignorant of the actual practices which take place. Once again, i have an omnivorous diet and maybe eat vegetarian meals once a week, but you can't just dismiss what he says because you don't like the implications of what he is saying. Everything he said is true, but it is easier to dismiss what he says so we can look at the food we eat and not feel any guilt. It is okay for you to hear his words and not change your behavior, not everyone who has lived their life eating meat is going to change their actions, but you cant dismiss the truth which is that we are not naturally capable of killing animals and we have no real need to do so to live. The only reason it is still a "necessity" is because of the money it brings, but if no one went into stores to buy animal parts all that attention could go towards the alternatives which would be better for the climate and not require the needless murder of animals. In terms of health it might be better for us it might be the same, but so long as people have a balanced vegan diet and not a "fruitarian" diet it can't be worse for our health.

3:30 “killed in a humane way” if you think a knife on the throat, in a chamber being gassed to death is humane or how most of the cows in slaughterhouse are pregnant is “humane” then okay👍🏻

This critique was just all over the place. Appeals to religion, anti-scientific jargon, and basically no point. oof

Explain how being a dairy cow is a good standard of living. Yes, factory farms included.

animals are not commodities. They are sentient beings that want to live

Debunked? Or just some dude saying his opinion while Ed gives facts and evidence? If you hate people who don't eat meat, ask yourself why it evokes such an emotion in yourself.

No, this just doesn’t make sense, and I’ve tried to give this video a chance. This is rubbish, sometimes you just have to admit the truth even when it’s hard

It depresses me that a video of a man trying to argue against people whose intention is to reduce environmental damage, animal suffering, and health risks, while shooting squirrels for no reason apart from to try to trigger vegans (which surely must also trigger meat eaters) has 40% more likes than dislikes😔

Your claims that a vegan diet is inadequate for human health is at odds with the American Dietetic Association, British Dietetic Association and National Health Service, who have categorically stated that a vegan diet IS SUITABLE FOR ALL STAGES OF HUMAN LIFE, including lactation, pregnancy and infancy.

I am confused - you speak about wild sheep being at danger or being violently killed by foxes, but the farmed sheep people eat today are bred into existence by human beings. Of course farmed animals would not survive in the wild - humans have tampered with their DNA to suit our consumption. Is this what you mean or are you talking about a situation in which sheep would evolve again to be wild? Moreover, foxes do not have a moral compass, of course they will kill other animals for food. How is this an excuse to breed billions of animals into existence and kill them for food? Should we look to nature to decide our morality? If we did then rape would be justifiable. I fail to see your point.

I’m vegan and conservative.

Response to claims at 4:07 - The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, which is the United State's largest health organisation and represents over 100,000 credentialed practitioners, holds the position (and you can easily find this online) that a well planned vegan diet is suitable for all stages of human life. When you say that we can't survive on a vegan diet, what science do you have to back up those claims?

Love how everyone in the comments instantly recognises how poor this guys arguments are. He states that ed presupposes certain things, but between Ed's videos he actually has solid foundations and not presuppositions while this guy says we ARE custodians???!!

Sad video. Have you thought about using other video material? I have no idea why anyone who is watching this should take someone seriously whose passion is apparently to shoot animals in the wild and make food out of them. Other than that, your "arguments" don't convince me at all. The lion does it too tho, humans are superior tho, animals have no consciousness tho, ... I don't know whether humans need to eat animals or if they can live a healthy life without that. But this is just another of those triggered meat eater defences that try to argue with stuff that is just false or illogical.

He's not poking anyone in the chest. He's asking calmly, and people can choose to go have a discussion if they find it interesting.

What an incredibly mediocre debunk. Zero weight behind it, extremely teenage, and mostly genuinely wrong. I admire your efforts, of course, and am open to the debating of veganism (even though I'm not vegan), but this is extremely weak.

Not sure you understand the definitions of the word "debunked". That video was a load of opinions not facts. Opinions don't debunk facts.

Haha. Look at me, I can hunt with my natural gun instincts and cook flesh with my natural cooking instincts. I can take the life of a vulnerable other because I'm smarter than them. Nope not for survival, but for the important reason that I've been brought thinking so. I can't surely question that. Must conform, MUST CONFORM.

Saying that animals in the wild have a harder time than farmanimals is like saying that free people have a harder time than people in jail waiting for their deathsentence. Yes you don’t have to struggle in jail to get food on the plate but you’re not free and just waiting to die really.

I have to agree with him, that instagram post disproved nutrition science all together.

I can’t find your sources. Can you link them please?

1 minute in and i'm done. in Eds video he is calm collected and explains why his sign is written the way it is. to compare him to anyone that forcing anyone to anything totally misses the mark here. Ed isn't forcing anyone to anything, they are having a calm discussion.

your problem, is that you're so stuck inside the box, you can't think outside of it. The bottom line is: why choose to be cruel when you can be kind?

Lol, thought this would have some evidence or science behind it. Back to watching Ed's videos

another thing is Ed here will go ON AND ON about human exploitation of animals, but will say nothing about human exploitation of other humans. he has nothing to say about structural factors that make a nonvegan diet ACTUALLY cheaper and more accessible than a properly planned vegan diet and how to change that, he has nothing to say about why theres so many impoverished people who need to pick the cheaper option to survive (40 million in america alone), and he has nothing to say about the negative environmental impacts of shifting the world to a fully vegan society. increased fertilizers and pesticides, a huge lack of grazing animals to maintain good soil quality, water use per nutrient value going up significantly, almost all domestic animals going extinct due to predation (chickens might survive due to sheer population growth rate), etc. etc. Ed is either just incredibly naïve, willfully ignorant, or a complete shill for himself and his book.

a custodian is a person who has responsibility for taking care of or protecting something❣️

If someone on the edge of going vegan watched this it'd send them straight over to never eating meat again 😂

i am suprised by all the negative comments! I agree mostly with you! Thank you for making this video :)

Clearly not listened to anything Ed actually says.

I'm 35 years old, lived in England all my life and traveled around the whole country, and not one time, ever, has a Christian behaved in the way you just described. You just made a caricature of an evangelical Christian, one for dramatics and effect rather than one that fits the real picture. Maybe you dont know much about the faith, I'm not sure, but Christian's are instructed to tell people the Gospel, if someone doesn't want to know, then "dust off your feet and leave, let it be a testament against them". What you're talking about sounds very American. In my experience in this country, I have only ever seen Christian's defending their faith against a barrage of abuse from oddly hostile anti theists. Nobody is being forced to listen to the Gospel, mate... but I think you already know that.

Veganism in a global perspective is impossible. No country exists without poverty, and these vegan alternatives are too pricey for a low income commoner. If Veganism would be mandated in a country, society, economy, and the system will collapse in less than a month. The foundation of a government is for the people and not for the priority of other lifeforms.

We are custodians of our children, do you eat children?

It's quite upsetting seeing you hunt at the same time that you argue against ed

Are you speaking at the rally on the 29th?

@srspower firstly, what is wrong with asking someone to justify their opinion? Is this not something that we see constantly on the news and on television? Also, the people that Ed talks to choose to sit down and have the discussion; they are not constantly being "poked in the chest". Secondly, you completely ignore the argument of necessity. This is interesting, is it because you are incapable of doing so? Your tangent into anthropomorphism is pinned down to your preconceived ideas of human superiority and our being custodian's of animals, but you do not justify or explain why you believe such a bold assumption. Weak. You also emphasise the beauty and sacredness of life; implying a life of suffering is better than not being born at all. I wonder if you would extend this to say that an infinite human population is better than trying to limit it. You then discuss the nutrients of a vegan diet and argue you cannot have a healthy diet if you are vegan. I'm very impressed that you think yourself a more credible nutritionist than scientific experts such as those who published this paper www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/ (i suggest you give it a read and check their 46 sources too - or are you satisfied that you are simply more knowledgeable than them because daddy sent you to a this private school?). You use anecdotal evidence which is pathetic and has been shown to be false by another comment. This inability to argue effectively is compounded by pathetic ad homina attacks - "you look a bit pale", try sunlight for vitamin D. Furthermore, I'm intrigued by your argument that all vegan weightlifters use supplements and the implication that non-vegan weightlifters do not. This is most certainly not the case, especially considering the majority of supplement products for weightlifting are not vegan. The example of rats Ed uses is not an anthropomorphism - what is your obsession with this word? The following biblical reference to show human's have consciousness is comical (and really juxtaposes your later critique of Ed's "frantic religious" belief). I wonder what is your opinion of how we should treat humans who are incapable of moral actions? Furthermore, morality is not the opposite to malevolence - benevolence is the word you are looking for. Are you familiar with the moral theory of Utilitarianism? This moral theory describes exactly what your rats were doing. Perhaps animals do act morally... i would really appreciate if you could discuss these issues i have raised with me, and after that i have some more for you to bat off.

The more of this video I watch, the more I pity you and your close-minded beliefs. Also showing you hunting during this video is extremely inappropriate. I hope one day you will realize how much suffering animals endure just so you can have a 'tasty' meal. Animals have emotions and think and feel just as much as humans do. Just because we cant communicate with them through language 100% does not mean they are lesser or unintelligent. They are not commodities for our consumption. They hurt just like we do, whether it be a cow having her male calf taken from her at birth so it can become veal or gassing pigs that are 6 months old so you can have bacon on your plate or pork for dinner. Ed preaches attitude over appetite to avoid animal products and I very much believe everyone is capable of doing so when given the right information. You make my head hurt and I hope people like you will change soon for the betterment of the world and your self.

You will be left behind. It's ok, youll have another try next time around.

The point of asking someone to justify eating animals is to get them to realize their beliefs don't align with their actions. I don't see why you're so angry about it. If you have a good justification than you should have no problem having a conversation. Do you want to live in a society where you cant have open and free discussions?

But why man? You understand how pigs are boiled alive and Male chicks are ground up into paste after birth and Male calves murdered... why? If you watched a video of screaming pigs being boiled alive and begging for their lives, what would you do?

Love the music at the end mate lol

How does eating an egg harm the hen? The hen lay eggs almost every 24 hour regardless of what we do. What an enormous waste to not eat such a protein and vitamin packed bundle.

Oh and Sam disturbing is awfully polite.

Thanks for introducing me to Earthling Ed! Wasn't aware of him until you did this video! He seems like good man. Speaks sense...

Rat thing is a lie

Excellent video once again. Rats having morality, lol. I've had on several occasions, a rat caught in a live cage, eaten alive through the mesh by other rats.

Greeting from America! Just pointing out that Steven Crowler draws much bigger crowds. 😂😂 Just Sayin! Funny that I am watching this while preparing some venison steaks....🤔. Maybe I'll even have a FEW veggies with them. Man is a ominevor.... One of many that inhabit the earth... Ed just has a hard time with facts that's all.... Best Wishes Sam. 😃

To all of you who have a dog at home: Look me in the eye and tell me your dog is a thing and not a someone. Your dog is on the same level as a chair? No? So if your pet animal is not "something", what is it?

Yes I love red dwarf

Im a vegetarian but also a county boy and a shooting man and i know the importance of pest control and management. My point is i cant see why people let people live how they want and not put your nose in

DEBUNKED is just click bait, innit. Other you tubers doing a much better job at this. Because you are just putting forth a not-well-educated- on these matters opinion. Don't get me wrong...I can't stand the twerp.

You're right about the hippie. He does want everyone to be like him, he probably sees himself as a messiah. Doesn't care about l people at all and just slightly more about animals. Its the ego that's big on him

Dude use your nice shooting skills for anything good (I'm not sure what actually lol), not sure what's your point of killing a squirrel, you neither need it for food nor is the world/nature better off without this squirrel...

Love you Sam Just going to say I already know this vid is good soo Great video

This man is a good example of how ignorance can be so harmful. He seems to genuinely believe that animals are raised in good conditions, given a good life and killed without pain. He thinks that the bad things that happen are only rare edge cases. Of course these days, we know that these horrible practices are in fact industry standard. I'm glad Ed has such a respectful and education-oriented approach to these topics. srspower could benefit from doing a little research.

.....And the only way this video has got any views is because uve used Ed's name and look more dislikes than likes .... who's wrong ? You are!

Nonsense haha

Funny old world buddy

This video is about a nobody hunter/farmer debunking a very well respected/educated activist with terrible points. Nothing educative to see here, move along peeps.

if vegans can get everything they need from plants, why do a lot of them take supplements?

Earthling makes him sound like he's a mythical creature from dungeons and dragons lol

Earthling Ed is the gift that keeps on giving.

This channel looks like a bad investment from 2008

i was searching for someone with real arguments against ed so i’d see the whole topic from an other perspective and all i find is bs like yours 😂. It‘s not even a perspective, it‘s pure ignorance of science. Try harder next time, please!

Well said Sam. I would love to see you go head to head with earthling Ed. Maybe educate him. I doubt he’d accept though

No good debunks waste of time video

More dislikes than likes lol

Good ol' boi

The internet is a sad place when 20k plus people subscribe to hear you ignorantly ramble about things without providing evidence. Your opinions are primitive at best and you are extremely disrespectful. Please educate yourself and stop blatantly spreading misinformation.

What he is doing is called humanising he is thinking how they feel as if they were human but they're not they so not have a consept of good or bad or right or wrong

Jesus I thought I had issues. Poor lad lets show him a bit of leniency for the one sided utter garbage views on planet what's going on. Sam you have the patience of a Saint. Regards Tony

Omg your arguments are the worst. First you say we are better than animals and then straight away, your like, well animals do it so we can too. Earthling Ed is amazing and your arguments are uninformed and so so weak.

You have a nice voice.

Don't have to justify winging a rat sam, it sucks and we all try to minimize the suffering of a creature. We're all human, and no ones going to be a perfect shot 100% of the time? Never proud to say it and many people don't like admitting it but we all wing things every once and a while.

Earthling ed, wow he's on a whole new level of insane. Meds ed you need meds

I hate earthling ed I've seen some of his videos and the ones about dairy farms especially annoy me since I live on one

Thanks for sharing Sam this bloke is a joke 😂😂😂😂😂 never mind it takes all sorts 👍

Earthling ed is talking about stuff he dosnt understand his tiny mind can't process it