don't you have to put top soil on top?

You don’t even break up the ground soil first??

Awesome! Excited to check that out!

I came over to Turf Culture from watching The Lawn Tools. Thanks to both of you guys.

Any updates? I'm using the same brand of grass seed and I just planted some this morning.

Agreed, but I just used what I had on hand.

Yup I heard that. I don't know what cheese cloth is, lol But for anyone watching this I thought this might be helpful

Continue to keep the seed moist once it is down for about a week then resume normal watering routine.

You should!

@@TurfCulture do you keep the bucket in a garage, in shade, where ever doesn’t matter?

@@RootedLawnCo great question! Yes I kept the bucket in my basement, need a cool dry place to store it.

So easy a KZfaqr can do it!

Nice! Not sure how much seed you need to buy but if you use code 5OFF for $5 off any purchase or TURF10 for $10 off any purchase of $100.

Probably 5 to 10 lbs just to spot seed but I appreciate it man I love that seed company because of what I seen on the website I'll definitely be getting some and so is my mother thank you very much I appreciate you friend!!

That is a phenomenal fescue blend 👍🏻

Very easy to execute with a little bit of research.

If you are having trouble with getting the grass to establish it may be another issue unrelated to seed germination.

Potting soil isn't a good base and could be your issue.

Next time the water company tried to pull a fast one on you! Thanks for watching!

How long can you hold on to the primed seed? The reason I’m asking sometimes it takes me a week to get to a job?

Thanks for watching and commenting!

Thanks, I guess?

So easy!

Good luck and thanks for watching!

Thank you!

Best of luck!

If you aren't changing the water every 12 hours until germination, the water becomes toxic to the seed. That may be the reason? Hope it worked out for you.

KBG takes forever to germinate, usually 2-3 weeks. Hopefully it went well!

Worked well for me, good luck 👍🏻

That would be ideal, I just used what I had around the house at the time.

Glad you found it helpful! You can mix the seed with fertilizer and spread it right away.

Thank you! I appreciate your help. I subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work! 👍

If you mix it right out of the bucket it’s pretty wet and can cause clumping with the fertilizer so that’s the main reason for drying it out a bit. You’re not drying it completely. If it does clump, let it sit and dry a bit more then mix up the fert seed mixture in the spreader or a bucket to break up the clumps.

@@dustinnorth6603 Thank you! I appreciate your help.

Thanks Vinny!

Resourceful, I like it

I'm just concerned if the kbg seed will slip through the cheesecloth.

@@steffen707- it won't. I used a paint strainer.

Thanks! I'm thoroughly impressed with the process.

There’s no science behind it, roughly 10lbs of seed with a 36lb bag of fertilizer is good. Spread it at your typical fertilizer setting.

I would water normally once the seed is down, don’t allow it to dry.

@@TurfCulture Thank you!

When you blend the seed with fertilizer, the fertilizer will absorb some of the water.

I think that method is called priming. I have tried that yet, but the pre germination process was overall very simple and the results are amazing.

@@TurfCulture Really appreciate you taking the time to reply. I think I may try pre germinating, and then priming for a day in peat moss/topsoil before putting down on the lawn. Let's hope for the best (and that the rabbit problem I have doesn't ruin all the hard work). Keep producing these helpful videos! Cheers!

All you need to do is drain the excess water, the fertilizer will absorb quite a bit of water from the seed. Once you get the seed out into the lawn water normally. You should only have to continue watering for about a week.

You actually don’t want to let the seed dry out once it’s germinated. Mix it with a biosolid fertilizer right away and spread it. The fertilizer will absorb a good amount of the water.

@@TurfCulture Thanks for that! Couple more questions: 1) after fert and seed is mixed, we need to apply right away, correct? 2) what ratio of fertilizer to seed do you recommend for mixing? Much appreciated.

begin watering normally for grass seed, you will want to continue to keep it moist for another week or two.

Don’t let the seed dry, you may want to consider 2 bags of biosolid fertilizer to blend with.

I leave it open, keep the bucket indoors out of sunlight.

@@TurfCulture oh, okay,thank you.I wasn’t sure if I was supposed to leave it close and in the sun. 👍🏼

Don’t let it dry out once germinated, I like to mix right into a large bucket and spread the seed/biosolid mix. Amend the bare areas and sow the seed right in.

It’s always a good idea to topdress if you can

Totally safe to do this.

@@TurfCulture COOOOOL 😅😊❤🎉 Thanks so much. You Legend!

I would give bermuda a few extra days to soak. Bermuda seed generally take a little longer.

Thanks… guess I’ll leave it 6 days I threw seed down but these damn birds don’t stop eating 😂 now I’ll try this way

Curious… Should the seed smell funny 😂 I’ve had the Bermuda 3 days now in the bucket switching water out every 12 hours.. still waiting on sprouts

@@masterpickle444 it does have a subtle odor lol

All I have to say is awesome I left the Bermuda seed 4 days and mixed with milo. 4 days later everything germinated and I mean everything thanks for the advice

Yes you do not want to allow the seed to dry out.

KBG is somewhere around 5 days. Look at the seed closely for the white root tip emerging, that’s when you know it’s ready.

I like to feed after germination, the seed has everything it needs to get started.

I mentioned in the video that you should store the bucket in a cool, dark place. Preferably a basement, no need for the lid. Once you have the seed down in the lawn water lightly until the grass blades are about 2” tall.

Just use Milorganite or any local biosolid fertilizer that you have locally. My spreader setting is on “M.”

If you can, warm water will help break down the fertilizer a little faster. Yes some collateral damage on the good grass is normal and it will recover. XLR8 will work great for crabgrass, depending on which speedzone you have, assuming it contains triclopyr and 24D will help control clover and many other weed species.

@@TurfCulture I think Jeremy is asking about the temperature of the water for soaking, not for watering after you laid down the mixed seeds with fertilizer. I tried to do it 3 days ago and poured boiling water over seeds to wake them up faster, as I didn't want to do this process for 3-4 days. Only 2 days. I hope I didn't kill it, did I?

@@sfuchs did you soak the seed in boiling water and let it cool down after? There is a chance that you may have killed the embryo in the seed by using boiling water. But you have inspired me to try an experiment using this method to see what happens.

@@sfuchs Lol, Boiling water will shorten the time... I heard you can put it in a pressure cooker pot with higher than boiling temps to shave off even 1 more day. Just 1 day of soaking with the pressure cooker. Smart thinking!

@Brandon Tran Hi Brandon, are you being sarcastic? I am familiar with soaking nuts and grains for eating and nutritional benefits. I assumed certain principles may be transferable and useful: Why do you soak nuts, seeds, and grains Nuts, seeds, and grains contain inhibitors (like armor) to protect them and prevent germination until the conditions are perfect. This is a brilliant mechanism while they are growing. However, when these foods are ingested, their protective agents act as enzyme inhibitors in our bodies compromising our digestion and health. Whole grains also contain other anti-nutrients such as phytates) that can inhibit our absorption of minerals such as iron, calcium, copper, zinc, and magnesium. Soaking nuts, seeds, and grains (getting them moist) essentially replicates the perfect moist conditions required for germination and neutralizes these anti-nutrients and enzyme inhibitors to make them more digestible. Foods require different soaking times for full germination (see the chart). As a general rule with nuts: the harder the nut, the longer the soak. Long-soak nuts (almonds, pistachios, and hazelnuts) need at least 8 hours. Medium-soak nuts (pecans, walnuts, and Brazil nuts) are oilier and swell up quickly, so require less soaking time. Short-soak nuts (cashews, macadamias, and pine nuts) have the highest fat content and require only 2 to 4 hours soaking. Do not soak these nuts for longer than 4 hours. Soaking them for extended periods of time break down their health-promoting oils. 4 Reasons To Soak Nuts, Seeds, and Grains Improves digestion: Soaking raw nuts, seeds, and whole grains in warm acidulated or salted water simulates the ideal moist germinating conditions these foods wait for in nature, essentially tricking the food into sprouting, which neutralizes enzyme inhibitors. Unlocks nutrients: Soaking activates the full nutrient potential of food. The potency of vitamins like A, C, and B get a boost, proteins become more available, and live enzymes are released. Improved flavor and texture: Soaking softens food, making it easier to blend. Hydrated nuts, seeds, and dried fruits liquefy more completely, even in high-speed machines. The silky, creamy consistency you get by soaking nuts before blending into soups and smoothies isn’t achievable with unsoaked nuts. Similarly, soaking dates for smoothies and sweets, and sun-dried tomatoes for raw sauces yields the best results. Reduces prep and cook times: Soaking hard and fibrous foods such as nuts, seeds, dates, and sun-dried tomatoes for smoothies, soups, dips, and sauces results in creamier consistencies, particularly with conventional blenders. Soaked grains cook more quickly, and soaked brown rice, when cooked, gets fluffy like its popular white counterpart. How To Soak Nuts, Seeds, and Grains Long Soak for Nutritional Benefits The easiest way to practice long soaking is in the evening right before bed, and then rinse, drain, and dry upon rising. Alternatively, soak in the morning to use at night. If you’re using more than one soaked food in a recipe such as making a nut milk or sauce with multiple nuts, soak the ingredients separately, drain, rinse, and then combine in the recipe. Long soak instructions Soak your food in a glass or ceramic container. Fully cover it with a solution of warm water, natural salt, and apple cider vinegar or lemon juice. I generally use two parts water to one part food by volume; per quart or liter of water, I add 1/2 teaspoon of salt and 1 teaspoon of lemon juice or vinegar. So, to soak one cup of almonds, I’d add 1/4 teaspoon salt and 1/2 teaspoon acid to 2 cups (480ml) of water, and immerse the nuts in the mixture. Cover the bowl with a breathable dish towel, and let stand at room temperature for the directed period (see the chart). During soaking, it’s normal to see a few nuts, seeds, or grains floating on the surface. These are possibly rancid. Discard them. It’s not uncommon to have a lot of floaters. In this case, keep the nuts. It’s the nature of the nut. You will also see food particles, a murky film on the surface of the water, and sediment on the bottom of the container. This is absolutely normal. These are the anti-nutrients that the soaking process has drawn out. Empty the contents of the bowl into a colander or strainer, rinse the bowl, and then place the food back in. Refill the bowl with clean water, fully submerging the food, then swish the contents around, strain, and rinse again. Repeat this process again if needed so that the food and water is completely clear. Quick Soak Times (for texture; no health benefit) If you haven’t prepared ahead of time or are making recipes in a hurry, you can soften nuts, seeds, and grains for quicker cook times and better textures. Note: Quick soaking in hot water has no nutritional benefit. Anti-nutrients are not neutralized and the heat kills the digestive enzymes present in the raw food. nuts, seeds, and grains: Place in a glass or ceramic container, cover with boiling water; let stand 10 minutes, then drain and rinse.

Sprinkler ten mins morning and ten evening for a week then every other day. If rain then leave altogether. Just make sure soil is moist all time for six weeks

Right away don’t let it dry out

The seed and the fertilizer does not bind, the fertilizer absorbs some of the moisture away from the seed and acts as a catalyst to help spread the seed evenly.

Lowe’s Milorganite copy cat www.lowes.com/pd/PROCARE-36-lb-2500-sq-ft-4-3-0-Natural-Lawn-Fertilizer/1000696136

Don’t let it dry out, mix it straight into the bio solids

Thanks, subbed!

@@TurfCulture awesome. Our channel got picked up by the YT algorithm last few weeks. I’ve struggled with spots around the perimeter of our bentgrass green. I’d honestly never heard of pre-germinating. I’m definitely going to try it come springtime. My only concern might be the bent seed is super small so I’ll have to find some tight cheese cloth.

@@SpudRunGolf A good burlap sack works well too.

I’ve been watering at 10 minutes each zone a few times per day

Absolutely, this process works with warm season grass seed and cool season.

Came back to be sure I got the info right. Should I add topsoil prior to laying down the mixture? Subscribed.

I’m a little too far north to keep rye out of dormancy in the winter.

Can you get Turface up there?

@TurfCulture thank you for replying. It looks like Turface is available in Canada. I'll try it on my next batch. I tried with lawn soil, and it appears to be working. I saw baby grass 5 days.

If the ground is bare that is a good idea

You want to keep fresh water in the bucket to prevent the seed from rotting.

You want to keep the seed wet to encourage germination quickly. The seed doesn’t know the difference between moist dirt and a bucket of water, this process ensures that all of the seed is watered consistently and evenly.

I was wondering the same bro! All u hear is don't drown the seed...now we fully submerging it for days at a time...mind blown!

I have tried this process whoch is great Soak for 24 hrs Pull bundle out and hang for 24hrs Hose the bundle down in am Leave 24hrs Hose the bundle down in am Leave 24 hrs Seed cracks open and ready

I think you don't want to soak it when it's in the ground because that can create crusty mud that could make it hard for the sprout to emerge from beneath the ground

@@user-cg9oi5ug4d Instead of "hosing down" could one just dip in water for complete soak and then hang? seems like hosing might miss the middle.

Definitely soak the seeds, drain and replace with fresh water at least once per day.

@@TurfCulture Still not clear to me. Per the video, is it: Submerge for 12 hours, drain and replace with fresh water for 3 days? Or is it soak, pull the seeds out, and then put them back into water every 12 hours?

@@cwtrex same here. it is still not very clear to me..

@@shion_lwn I submerged my cheese cloth bag of seeds Thursday afternoon at 5pm till Sunday afternoon 5pm changing the water every 12 to 14 hrs...my tall fescue seeds were craking on sunday afternoon...drained COMPLETELY... then mixed with milo..then threw down

@@bigchrispimpin thank you for the info! I appreciate it.

Inside and cool 👍🏻

Gorgeous hat btw!!

No I didn’t save the water, makes sense though!

cool dark place

Yes that will allow for even coverage

Because this was an overseed into an established lawn, no. If this were bare dirt then send it’s a good idea to amend the soil.

Yes, submerged.

@@TurfCulture thank you!

I’m doing a spring batch right now, water needs to be tap cold and store in a cool dry place.

@@TurfCulture Thanks...average air temperature is going to be about 60 over the next 14 days in NY, maybe I'll give this a shot and hope for a miracle. I over-seeded with Scott's Sun and Shade Mix over some dead zones the normal way back in late march after de-thatching and scarifying and it's been a month and nothing has grown. Maybe it was still too cold? or not enough rain? but nothing came up. I'm really disappointed. I'll give this method a try this week thanks for the video!

@@themadhatterxxx do you have a basement? Just store it there.

Don’t dry it out, mix with biosolid fertilizer immediately.

Rot

Mix with a biosolid fertilizer and spread it with a rotary spreader.

Yes follow recommendations on the seeding rate.

Sure that’ll work

My spreader is not a typical Scott’s spreader. Use whatever setting that you normally use for fertilizer since that is your catalyst.

I don't believe that is possible unless he is germinating it ahead of time.

If you are managing a grow in you’ll want to fertilize at seed down and again about 30 days after seed down, this won’t hurt anything. In this case with pre germination, you need a carrier for spreading the seed out of a spreader that is why bio solid fertilizer is recommended.

I think you may have starter fert confused with pre emergent or another weed control. Starter fert can be applied almost immediately after laying down the seed, I tend to lean towards waiting till they sprout and then applying. If you apply a pre emergent or weed killer to early to baby grass you will either stop it's growth or kill it

Yes, once the seed is down into the lawn water regularly. This process should accelerate germination and significantly reduce watering requirements for the first week or longer.