Hey dude, thanks so much, this comment made my day mate! Means so much to me that people enjoy the videos, really appreciate it 🙏

Hey Gregory, thanks mate, feels good to finally start the season 🥳💪🏼 Always appreciate you dropping by 🙏

Hey mate, thanks, boy o boy did I struggle with this one 😂 hopefully I can do it better next time, but If I can´t find a better way of spreading the seeds then it´s just more hassle to do it this way. We´ll see. Thanks for dropping by mate, appreciate it 🙏

@@SamsLawn I saw one person suggest mixing the geminated seed with peat moss. Given how dry peat moss is, I'm sure it would take care of the moisture issue, but I still don't think it would spread well due to the composition of peat moss itself.

@@SuperJ24 Actually read the same thing, just trying to find some peat moss, for some reason even THAT is hard to find in Sweden 😂😂

Hey mate, thanks, appreciate it. Of course you just have to go with the flow, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn´t, that´s just part of it :)

Hey Steve, the sand worked ok but it really wasn´t optimal, I hoped it would have worked better to be honest. I will try this a few more time and try to test other ways too, if I can´t find a more optimal way of spreading the seeds I think I will just go back to normal seeding unfortunately since it just becomes too much of a hassle, even if you save a lot of days of germination. I will keep you updated in a future video :)

Hi, thanks, really glad you enjoyed the video and that I could give you a good laugh too haha That´s an awesome idea, just try it out with some of the seeds first and try different methods of spreading it, see what works best for you. Instead of doing it my way of using ALL the seeds, I regret that a lot. But you live and you learn. Next time I will keep a closer watch at the pre-germination and try out different ways of spreading.

Sounds like an awesome idea! Next time if I am using some new type of seed I will 100% do this, should give me a good heads up when it´s time! Thanks mate, awesome tip!

Yeah, I really need to find a better way of spreading the seeds, it started germinating fast, but it´s germinating now in patches on the lawn, I guess from the seeds clumping together. So I really liked the faster germination part but if I can´t find a more optimal way of spreading it it is more of a hassle than just seeding normally unfortunately. Hope you had better luck with that part mate. Thanks for dropping by, appreciate it.

How about mix with top soil and use a lawn leveller to spread it all?

@@paulprothero9997 I think that would have worked pretty well, never tried it but it sounds like something that could work, will definitely try that next time and see how it works.

Hey mate, well if you are seeding larger areas and need more seed, then this works better for that. If I had smaller patches then I would just mix seeds with soil in a bucket or wheelbarrow. It was way easier to mix it when it pre-germinated in soil. That actually made me think that I could have just mixed the pre-germinated seeds in a wheel barrow with soil and spread it that way. That would maybe be better than using sand.

Wait til the top layer sprouts in the bucket not so much in the center, I see grass blades the next day and I mean a TON all at once, I did this today with Monaco Bermuda

There are so many tips on pre germination hard to know which one is correct, some people do the 24hr water and then every 12 hrs rinse and repeat but the seeds are in water for 4/5 days. Honestly hard to know what believe is the right technique.

@@f900ex5 doesnt matter 12 or 24, ur waiting on roots in the bag. Dont go by the days, wait for the roots to shoot, wait for many of them, THEN its go time, grass the next day, if you seed before the roots show, you will be waiting days for germination

Hey mate, I might try that next time, I have a Landzie. Spreading it was harden than I had imagined it would be, but many people suggested the compost spreader, I should have tried that too. But I was at the end of my renovation, I was exhausted and just wanted to be done with it and go eat pizza 😂

Did you use compost or top soil to mix the seed into the spreader? If so, did you have to let the seed dry out first so it mixed evenly in the soil?

Did you pre germinate the Bermuda in a bucket?

Good luck mate! Let me know how it turns out for you and how the spreading worked! I feel I need to find a more optimal way of spreading the seeds, otherwise this becomes too much of a hassle I think.

Hey, how did it go? I was going to start this tomorrow

Tjena, faktiskt en bra idé som jag borde provat, känns som att det kunde ha fungerat bra, enda oron är om det klumpar sig med en fuktig dress. Hade det inte varit för att jag hållit på att renovera mattan hela dagen och var helt färdig så hade jag testat, mot slutet där hade jag ont i hela kroppen och ville bara bli klar och äta pizza 😅 Definitivt något jag ska testa nästa gång! Om du själv testar får du gärna återkomma och berätta hur det gick.

Tjena, jasså, det lär intressant! Kanske ska prova det! Jag tyckte nog sand fungerade ok men inte optimalt. Om jag inte hittar något riktigt optimalt sätt att sprida fröna och få dem att separera mer än de gjorde, så tror jag nog i slutändan att jag går tillbaka till att så vanligt faktiskt, kanske testar din metod!

Hi Lucy, I should really edit the videos more so I look smart instead of that 😂 For sure, I scarified, aerated, I did it during my full lawn renovation so I think it had a good bed to germinate. Sadly our temps dropped today and tomorrow we might even get frost. So, that´s Sweden for you, hopefully some of it lives. Tall fescue should be the most heat resilient but that´s the same as saying some species are shade tolerant, doesn´t mean they don´t need any sun at all. So tall fescue will cope with heat to a point, but after that it will start to struggle same as all cool season grasses. But I think you will be fine, wish I could see a picture of the tall fescue, we don´t have that much of it over here :)

Tall fescue has broader, thicker leaves, and it is slightly lighter green than rye and bluegrass but still beautiful. unfortunately, I can't attach a photo to my comment...🌷🪻

Hey mate, many people suggested the same thing, I really should have tried it, really curious to see how it would have worked out! I was almost at the end of my renovation and I had been at it for almost 6 hours, so I was exhausted, I regret not trying it out. Next time! Thanks for the tip! 🙏

I read that some use peat moss to spread it actually. Trying to find that but even THAT is hard to find in Sweden it seems! 😂

Hey mate, I was actually wondering if that would work instead of soaking the entire thing under water. As you say, that might help the last day when you are about to spread the seeds. Next time I will do one bag like that and see what difference it makes. Great feedback!

@@SamsLawn If I try it before you I’ll let you know. The fertilizer I put down has crab grass preventer so I haven’t seeded yet. Last year I tried your method of pre-germinating in a bucket of compost and keeping it wet. It worked well, but some of it didn’t come back over winter. It gets a lot of shade close to the house. I plan to take down a couple of ash trees since the emerald ash borers are taking them out in masses around here. That should open up some more sunlight in my yard.

Tjena, tack själv för att du tittade förbi! Jag har aldrig tänkt på det, tror inte det behövs eller har du läst någostans om det? Jag tänker såhär, allt gräsplantan behöver finns redan i fröet, det är först när det växer den behöver något "extra", dessutom tar jag ut den från vattnet efter 24 timmar och sen blöter jag det bara nästkommande dagar, så det känns lite bortkastat. Om du läst någonstans om det får du gärna hänvisa dit, vore intressant att se om det skulle göra någon skillnad, är ganska ny inom just den här grejen så jag läser på så mycket jag kan :)

​@@SamsLawn Nej, jag har inte läst det nånstans. Men tror verkligen att det skulle ger bättre resultat.. Jag kommer testa det själv och hör av mig va blir det för nåt .. Intressant att testa. Ha det bäst

Hey Chris, same for me. The pre-germination it self worked just fine, a little too good, but as you say, if there isn´t a more optimal way of spreading the seeds without it clumping together then this might just be more hassle to be honest. It´s been almost 2 weeks now since I did it and the seeds germinated on the lawn but you can see that it did it in patches, so it seems even with the sand it still clumped together. I think next time I might try to mix it with top soil and use the landzie to spread it, maybe that will spread more evenly. How has your turned out?

@@SamsLawn Hey Sam. Mine is starting to turn out pretty well. Being patient is the key, and like you, I am not as patient as I need to be with my grass germination projects. I have told my family too many times through the years to stay off the lawn that it can defeat part of the purpose of having one! What I had to do is repeart he pre germination process a few times and I put the seeds down earlier and then (even my hand in thin spots) and then covered it with potting soil. I like using potting soil that is organic and it is doesn't cost much. It covers the seed well but doesn't weight it down like plain soil does. But it helps the seed to have contact with soil and germinates quicker. If I do a larger area again I will use my Landzie and put the seed either in peat moss or a very dry soil or compost like you mentioned. I think that will help. One of your viewers also mentioned he used granulated lime to mix and his seed and spread it. That is probably cheaper than Millorganite but if your soil doesn't need the lime you wouldn't want too much of that on the lawn either.

Awesome Chris, thanks for the uppdaterad mate, sorry for the late response. I didn't get a notification for this comment for some reason.

Hey mate, It's easy to get confused here, I confuse myself even when trying to explain this 😅 Submerge the seeds 24 hours Take out the bag, let it drain for 24 hours Submerge it for 2 min in fresh water Then drain it for 24 hours Submerge 2 min in fresh water So on and so forth until it germinates Hope that's clear? ☺️

Yes, thanks

@@SamsLawnthis is what I have been looking for, thanks!

Hey dude, I bought sand from Skånefrö for my leveling project later on this year, so I used some of that. But you can buy smäller bags of sand from Jula or Biltema, (Blästersand), I think on the bags at Biltema it even says it can be used for lawns. Expensive if you want loads, but for this purpose a couple of bags is perfect. I just used small amounts, don't have any "correct" ratio, but next time I do this I will use more, I think I used to little to be honest.

@@SamsLawn Thanks for the tip! Looking forward to the full renovation video.

Hey mate, thanks! I really should have tried that out, I was so wiped at the end of the renovation so it never really crossed my mind to try it. Next time definitely! Thanks for the tip!

That is a great idea because it is much cheaper overall than Milorganite. Depending on how much you use it could raise the PH I guess too much if your soil is already at a good PH level. Great idea though. I may try that.

@@chrisryan8863 Granular Gypsum can also be used as a carrier. Gypsum doesn't affect pH, neutralizes salts, reduces soil compaction, improves soil structure, increased air movement.

Would using a lawn leveller to spread it mixed with top soil work?

@@paulprothero9997 A wheelbarrow filled with soil, seed, and lawn lute to level and work it in will work well. The only issue is that the seed doesn't spread evenly, so you may need to touch up some places. I would recommend throwing down dry seed with a broadcast spreader as well to avoid this. Typically you have to overseed a couple times anyway to get things to fill in properly.

Hey Ray, I used a sand for top dressing golf courses, so it´s washed and has no "dust" particles in it.

Det är ängsgröe (Poa pratensis).

Precis som Robin säger, Ängsgröe :)

That was me, I know it will be entertaining, love his attitude and always funny

😂😂😂 that's what we are looking for Wayne! Awesome 🥳🤙🏼

Thanks mate! It spent 5 days in pre-germination and then I spread it, unfortunately we had snow two days after and really cold weather. Of course right?! So the germination hasn´t really begun yet, we just got over 8 degrees Celsius today, 1 week after and KBG needs at least 8 degrees to germinate. So we´ll see how it does. I will keep you updated in a future video :)

@@SamsLawn Right weather is so changing these days! Definitely will follow you for that update video! I have done 8 days in pre-germination and now 3 days in the soil and I didn’t see any results… I hope i didn’t kill my seeds with too much pre-germinating.

Hey mate, I have seen some people do that but it didn´t make sense to me, you wouldn´t want to drown the seeds on the lawn so. But I have not tried it myself so I can´t really say if it´s wrong or not, but try it this way and see if it works better. I used water at room temp pretty much, seems to work pretty well. Try that and get back to me if this worked better for you :)

I did that method as well and failed, 0% growth. Also had pretty warm water some days. Maybe too hot water. Will try Sam’s method this time, and start with a super small batch.

@@sebastiansson would appreciate it if you could get back to me as well and tell me how it worked out for you mate 😊

Hi, I bought it from a Swedish supplier called Skånefrö. Don´t think they usually sell the 100% KGB in smaller bags but if you live in Sweden, just email them and they might be able to send you anyways.

Hey mate, I showed the results in my latest video :)

Hey mate, for sure I could have done that, but in the middle of a renovation, hot out, you are exhausted, the brain goes into primal mode and just want to get everything done and not really thinking straight 😂 next time ;)

@@SamsLawn Keep up the tips and tricks. Lovely place you have there.

Hey Mate, I used 3 different seeds. Barenbrug RPR, Skånefrö Creeping red fescue and Kentucky bluegrass "jumpstart". Not sure where you are located but you can always google and see if you can find it somewhere near you. Good luck dude

Tjena, jag köpte dem från Skånefrö. Vet dock inte om de säljer den här hur som, maila och fråga dem ☺️

You talking about the water in the bucket with the seed? Doesn't that create toxic water that will kill your grass

@@The_k1d206Toxic? No, it is all natural, there is nothing toxic there, it's all plant material and bacteria, etc. What you want is microbial life in the soil, so your grass or whatever you are growing is going to have food. Microbial life eats that which cannot be absorbed by plants and breaks it down into compounds and elements that can be absorbed by plants. This is soil life, nothing is toxic here. For example, your synthetic fertilizer contains only what manufacturer put in it is ready to be absorbed by plants. Soil biology beat anything that humans invented so far, bacteria, bugs, earthworms, mycorrhizal fungi they need food and this water is their food but in return this whole ecosystem will provide for plants. This is why while organic might not be powerful injection of nutrients compared to synthetic, it is wholesome. Feed the soil, not the plants, and the soil will provide. I don't use synthetic any more, I use sieved homemade compost to make compost teas and liquid seaweed and my lawn and the rest of the garden is lush and green.

So from what I have read, the "toxic" referred to is not really anything toxic in that sense. It´s natural stuff coming out of the seeds when germinating to "warn" off other plants nearby to kind of stay away. It´s a natural defence mechanism when grass seeds germinate. So it is toxic but natural toxicity so to say :) That´s how I understood it at least.

Responded in the other comment :)

@@SamsLawn that's what I meant not toxic like don't handle it, just meant it wouldn't be good to dump the water on your lawn

Hi, not quite, so after the initial 24 hours you take out the submerged seeds. Throw away the water and let it dry off for 12 or 24 hours, then you submerge it again, just for 1 min or 2, then let it drain again for 12 or 24 hours, you do that for 4-5 days or until you see the seeds cracking and are just about to germinate. beware not to wait as long as I did, was a pain to spread it once they germinated too much. Good luck :)

@@SamsLawn thank you ❤️

@@baxterismyyoutubename5077 No worries, let me know if you have any more issues with it :)

@@SamsLawn u said in 4th line of your comment "then let it drain again for 12 or 24hrs" I was having hard time to grasp what u mean... Now I know u mean to say "dry" I get it.... 🤪

@@baxterismyyoutubename5077 drain or dry, doesn't matter, just let it be for 12/24 hours before you soak it again 😁🤙🏼💪🏼

We don´t have that much TTF here actually, not that common in Sweden. But I always wanted to try it out. Maybe next time :)

Hey Neil, I was actually thinking the same, usually brownish stuff in lawncare is always good stuff 😂 But apparently, when grass seeds germinate, they release a toxin to sort of warn of other plants so they have space to germinate. But I might try it next time on a space outside the lawn, just to test that theory ☺️

One of the miracles of evolution thorough natural selection is that plant seeds have poisonous protective coatings. The seed washing water is as useful as dog urine.

hahahaha I really should do that! Would be hilarious! How to make your own hand held spreader 😂😂😂😂

Btw tror du tvättpåsar funkar?

haha, du kan bara skylla på mig, säg att jag tvingade dig ;) Jo men tvättpåsar kan nog funka, så länge de håller fröna inne och vattnet ute så ska det inte vara några problem.

@@SamsLawn Will do! 😂 Men bra, jag ska testa om det funkar.

Plus, everyone has trouble spreading it. The amount of $$ u need to spend on Milirgonate to spread a large amount of seed isn’t worth it. Pre-germinating is just good for seeding same spots in the spring in my opinion

Hey Mate, I do agree with you that it was a bigger hassle to spread it than I imagined it would be and as you say I didn´t want to dry it out too much. So not sure if it´s just better to seed normally. I think I will definitely try it out again and try some other methods of spreading it, but in the end if it´s always this much work then maybe I just seed normally.

​@Nan_cc I never pre-germ, but if I did, I would definitely spread it with Milorganite because it's something I've always used with my normal seeding. Seems like a water saving to me.

I had the same problem, spreading the seeds when moist I tried with an organic fertiliser and mixing it all together, but the fertiliser started dissolving with the moisture the best solution I ended up finding was mixing the seeds with compost and spreading the whole thing over the lawn This obviously meant that I was not able to use a spreader of any kind and had to do it by hand, but in the end, it has worked out well

@@CaptnT0ast Awesome feedback mate, I think I will use a compost spreader next time and just mix the seed with some soil or something.

Yes :)

yeah, I will try it some more times, If I cannot find a more optimal way of spreading the seeds then I would say the normal dry way is just less hassle in the end.

@@SamsLawnit worked the germination ??

@@Guatemaya1 It worked, but it was too wet and clumped together so it wasn´t as good of a spread as I had hoped.

I saw another video and they said to add peat moss to absorb some of the water and to use a spreader

I wouldn´t say that. I do have germination going on the lawn so....

haha, just as it was to write this comment, read it and respond to it :)