Easy way to add Dual Rotary Encoders with push button to Flight Simulator 2020, Prepar3d and X-Plane

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ℹ️ In this video I show you a very easy and effective way to add a Dual Rotary Encoder with a Push button to any flight simulator (Flight Simulator X, 2020, Prepar3d or X-Plane). Very few components are required but this project is also very budget friendly, and can be easy to complete with very little experience. Please review the useful links below:
📽 Useful Videos/Links 🔗
Encoder: www.propwashsim.com/store/dua...
Leo Bodnar BBI-32 Interface Card: www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.p...
Encoder Configuration Software: www.leobodnar.com/files/BBI-3...
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@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

Add cool 🔆LED Switches and Pushbuttons to your Simulator 🕹: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpZ6a7Zy0Je8aWQ.html

@Reeser17 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. I have several rotary encoders (single knob, push button, not duel) The encoder is already mounted to a board with 5 pins coming out of it. By far this was the easiest explanation if not the only that physically shows the wire connection. I am an amateur, and a visual learner. This will be my first button box build.

@benherring4959 10 ай бұрын

This is just what I came to KZfaq looking for, the wiring for a Propwash dual encoder with the Leo Bodnar BBI-32 board. Perfect! Thanks a million!

@joshuamarius 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome! Enjoy ✌🏻

@yta7777777 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Clear, consider instructions. Crystal clear audio and fantastic video quality. This was first one of your videos I’ve seen. Instant sub and like! Definitely looking forward to more. Thank you so much!

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the comment. Glad it helped, and I will definitely be making more.

@fredymarius8767 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect technical demonstration

@CaptainBobSim 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice! I love the idea of using the BBI-32 to use it "plug'n play".

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment :)

@aaronyarbrough2558 3 жыл бұрын

Instant sub. Superb explanation and demonstration!

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@Everything-Wii Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I', building a 737 full simulator (i am custom building the overhead panel because it is way too expensive to buy new) , and this works perfect for me! I won't be using dual rotary, likely just one axis unless duals are all that I can get. I'm early in the learning process when it comes to electronics so this was a life-saver. Subbed!

@joshuamarius Жыл бұрын

You're welcome, and thanks for sharing your details about your project. If you have many Rotary Encoders don't forget to consider Arduino's as well...cheaper, but a tad more steps are involved so don't forget to watch my other videos. And thanks for subscribing, I'm preparing more videos as I type this. Thanks again!

@winterpull 2 жыл бұрын

Super helpful, thank you so much!

@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful. Please like and share :)

@ALPHARICCO875 3 жыл бұрын

SUPER, THANK YOU 👍

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Glad it helped :)

@porakone73 3 жыл бұрын

This is what I've had for a few years now, but there is a problem with this and X-Plane and I am not the only one (it's been discussed on the forum). No matter how you set up the the Bodnar board, encoders are slow as ***t. When using rotaries for for example tuning radios it's bearable (because you don't neet so much clicks) but when you need to turn for example the heading bug 180 degrees you have to roll and roll and roll and roll some more. I've seen a plugin for XP to fix this (the faster the clicks come from encoder the bigger steps are taken in the sim) but it wasn't even close to an easy solution at least at that point when I tried it.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Somebody else made the same comment and I wrote the manufacturer. They said they are working on it :)

@pilothound1582 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude I was literally googling this today!! Very helpful and easy to understand 👌🏼

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. Glad I could help :)

@gregoryanderson6717 3 жыл бұрын

From a fellow pilot quick to the point perfect I ordered 4 encoders thx bud

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryanderson6717 Thanks for the comment! What do you fly? Hope you have fun with your project! 👍🏻

@gregoryanderson6717 3 жыл бұрын

Mesa 29 years CRJ now 737 next month CHEERS

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryanderson6717 That's awesome! Happy Holidays and safe flying👍🏻👍🏻

@pelgrin21 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot I used the Leo board boards I was thinking on using them again thanks.

@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome 😁

@joseserpa2145 3 жыл бұрын

Hola, son geniales tus videos! Estaria muy bueno que los hagas en español también, entiendo que la comunidad no es tan grande pero créeme que habemos personas que nos seria muy útil tu información. Igualmente gracias y sigue asi, saludos!

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Saludos! Gracias por el comentario. Hay algunos en español ya y estarè traduciendo los otros con el tiempo. Espero completarlos en menos de 30 dias.

@robie169 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Can you recommend any good rotary encoders similar in quality to those on the G1000? Also what type of switch would be appropriate for the "range/pan" 4 way direction button? Many thanks!

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

For encoders, look here for the ELMA37: www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=98_75 There are some custom projects for the Range/Pan but you may have to get it built by a company like Aviatek. Here is a simple example: www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=98_87&products_id=210 The other encoders of the highest quality are the Grayhill: www.grayhill.com/

@94668 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I've been looking for that double pot and how to connect it for the longest time.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! Thanks for the comment.

@NoelKerns 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, I can't wait to get started! Do you know anything about the single rotary encoders they offer at Propwash? As in, are they of the same quality, and do the knobs more or less match the ones that come on the dual encoders?

@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay! I thought my reply went through. Knobs are very similar, great quality. The staff can also be contacted and they will send you information. They are really good with customer support. I'm very happy with all the Dual and Single encoders I have ordered from them.

@YuriyDtv 2 жыл бұрын

love it. straight to the point. question tho can u use 2 different incoders an single push button to work whit gps i have like 5 incoders and 10 buttons. i know its easier that you have 3 in 1 set up but what if split it up ????

@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I understand your question. Each GPS function on the simulator is assigned an action. As an example, let's look at the NAV frequency. You will have increase (1) and decrease (2) inner knob, increase (3) and decrease (4) outer knob and the push button (5) will switch between Nav1/Nav2 - You can see how I have labeled in parenthesis the 5 outputs of the dual rotary encoder. You can then use another encoder for the other functions such as increase and decrease a page or group and other functions, for example in the G1000.

@YuriyDtv 2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius pretty much use 2 separate incoders insted of 1. am gana give a try. as i see your hookups to leobodnar bord it would be a same hook up with seperet encoders not 3 in one but 2 incoders and pus button hooked up same as all in one .

@giertych97 2 жыл бұрын

It will work with Xbox Series X and the newest Microsoft Flight Simulator?

@KevTCC 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have an option for a similar board on the Canadian side of the pond?

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Leo Bodnar cards are usually shipped from the UK. Also, review my USB Interface Cards Video as these also give you options to other cards: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g512q5hlysWypIE.html

@Kopplin382 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video, i've managed to build a device for 4 simple and 4 dual encoders with the leo bodnar card. I'm having problems with the speed of the encoders in FS2020, they're extremely slow. I've set them with the heading bug and the OBS on the VORs. I've seen some other videos where they explain how to fix that issue, but with arduinos and mobiflight. Is there any way how to fix this? I use the rotary encoders that come with my honeycomb bravo, where the OBS and heading bug start moving slowly and then faster. The downside with it is that I have to pre select with another knob which knob I want to twist. BTW, I was trying to use the dual encoders for the GNS530 in FS2020, but I can't find where to set them up. Thank you for your time.

@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

At the moment the Leo Bodnar cards do not have this feature. Somebody else had asked about this and I did write Leo Bodnar and they replied that they are working to release this feature soon. In the meantime, Arduinos are the way to go because they have more available programming within the simulator with software such as MobiFlight or the Aviatek Connector. Leo Bodnar cards are just a quick and easy way to get inputs to your simulator with no knowledge of programming or software. It is truly plug n play, but as you can see the more advanced features will require more involvement.

@smartsimtech7416 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Joshua, Hey can we assign the ONE encoders for several tasks in MSFS 2020 kind of like the GCU center encoder on a cirrus? so like have say 4 keys on keyboard that changed the function of the one encoder if that makes sense? Thanks in advance..:)

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Which Cirrus in particular are you referring to? The MFD/GCU on the SR-22 doesn't really do this. Each encoder is assigned to a function (COMs/NAV, Range, HDG, ALT, etc) The Encoder for the FMS only changes the specific pages or groups (Allows you to input characters and move to next character or line, or move to the next setting/option).

@smartsimtech7416 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius thank you yeah the SR22 GCU has the one rotary encoder knob but to the right is the selected option for say COMM or XPDR NAV etc I was thinking I could make one of your rotarys in this video with the option to change what it controls like in the real GCU so I can use one knob for several things ? Cheers

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

@@smartsimtech7416 I see what you mean now. Unfortunately you will need something to duplicate the buttons (COM/NAV, XPDR, etc) in order to change those settings in the simulator. The only creative thing that comes to mind is using a Dual Rotary encoder with a pan or directional hat or joystick (I don't even think these exist but it's possible). You then assign the different directions to the function you want. For example, pressing up will enable COM, left is XPDR, right is NAV and so forth. That way all you do is switch with the encoder's "hat" and then rotate to adjust ;)

@smartsimtech7416 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius awesome mate I understand !! Thank you for the thoughts and reply. I’ll get a rotary encoder going first up and go from there with options for the other selections. I currently have the Real sim gear GCU but it cannot be assigned to the options I want as those buttons in the sim are INOP on the cirrus BUT I’m happy to assign them to the ones on the G1000 for now but isn’t possible from what I can see.... So will build one that can be assigned easily for now. New subscriber and appreciate your help.

@Manu1c Жыл бұрын

Hello! I also bought the Propwash Dual Rotary encoder and an Arduino Nano. But the Nano has only 2 GND pins while the Propwash encoder has 3 GND signals. What am I supposed to do with the 1 GND that I can't connect?

@joshuamarius Жыл бұрын

You can use a Terminal/bus bar to connect all of the grounds together, or you can combine the 3 grounds into one ground on the Arduino. It doesnt matter which ground you use as long as ground is connected, somewhere. Sample Bar: amzn.to/3WhNqN9

@MikeJones-wq4qv Жыл бұрын

Does this prop-wash encoder is with high rotate torque like Aviatek one or it is very soft while rotating?

@joshuamarius Жыл бұрын

These are cheaper and louder encoders than the ones used by Aviatek which come as close to the real thing as you can get. That does not mean they are bad. They work really well for the price. If you want to get higher quality look into Grayhill or Elma. For example: www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=98_75&products_id=196

@capton410 10 ай бұрын

would this encoder work for other electronics, not relating to flight sim? or is it like build specifically for that software

@joshuamarius 10 ай бұрын

It's not so much the software; more so the specifications of the Hardware in the projects. If these are rated at 5 Vdc for example, then you would be limited to this Voltage, regardless if its for a flight simulator, button box or Audio project. Since you can use these with interface Cards such as the Arduinos, then anything that can interact with those cards can use the encoder (Robotics, DJ panel, lighting, etc).

@chizzysmith9575 3 жыл бұрын

What software is needed to use this in MSFS2020? I am referring the software you are using with the black screen to assign the aircraft functions ? Or maybe I should ask what software is that you are using ?

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

There is no software needed for a particular simulator. You use the BBI-32 application (shown at 2:00) to assign the Rotary Encoder preferences to the buttons on the Interface Card (download link in description). Once you are done with that, you can go into any simulator or game and it just gets detected as a Joystick. In the example you can see it's detected as Button Box Interface 13. When you are in the simulator, look for this Joystick (or similar) and assign the functions you would like.

@chizzysmith9575 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius Oh so what program where you using at the end to assign the events with ? I thought I needed that. I'm not looking to assign key strokes.

@gregoryanderson6717 3 жыл бұрын

Hey how in the encoder software you have chosen, can you assign a heading encoder to speed up as you turn it faster

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

That's a great question! In reality I think that should be a function in the simulator but I can ask the manufacturer and get back to you.

@pisymbol 3 жыл бұрын

This is my understanding the big blocker with Leo boards. Turning will be slow.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

@@pisymbol Its not that bad. However as I posted before, the manufacturer told me they are working on automatic acceleration.

@gregoryanderson6717 3 жыл бұрын

@@je-140 ugg keep me posted plz

@shneebsful 3 жыл бұрын

will it work for DCS?

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

It should. As long as Windows detects the interface card, any game that allows Joysticks will pick it up and accept inputs. That was a good question; thanks for bringing it up.

@mrbonzi1196 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I also bought a dual encoder from propwash and it came with a single common, I bought a leobodnar and I can't get it to work, the configuration program keeps showing failed I have photo's of the encoder and how I wired it to the Leobodnar any advice please

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Upload it somewhere and send me the link. Ill help you.

@Milhouz 3 жыл бұрын

Hey quick question. I got the propwash dual rotary encoder and it only comes with a single common. Is it possible to make that work for all functions involved? BBI isn't here yet and just want to see if this will work.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Are you sure that's a Dual? Also, It depends on what card is receiving the input. Can you type out the connection labels on the Encoder?

@Milhouz 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius Sure thing I got the exact kit from propwash but they now have a different PCB it seems. Labels ar eas follows from left to right. b,a,SW,com,A,B so it's dual they just seemed to have moved to a common ground. I think this would work for things Arduino based but im getting a BBI-32 like you have here and going to try to get it to work with that. Any thoughts. New to this electronics stuff and trying to figure it out.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

@@Milhouz Thanks so much for the info. Based on what you have there, you are right; you only have one Ground/Common. This will save from having to solder 2 extra wires. This is actually great! In the end, the ground/common all go to the same connection. I usually have all of them go to a bus-bar and that way they only take up one space in the BBI. Please let me know if you need further help.

@Milhouz 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius I'll probably reach back out for some assistance once I have the BBI in hand. Just ordered late last week and has to come to the US so it's probably going to be a hot minute. Thanks for your help so far!

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

@@Milhouz We'll be here!

@ryananglehart2460 Жыл бұрын

Are there any alternatives to the Leo Bodnar BBI-32 Interface Card?

@joshuamarius Жыл бұрын

Please review my video on the subject here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g512q5hlysWypIE.html There are more and more Cards coming out from Leo Bodnar and other manufacturers which are very similar. I'll try to make an update about this on a new video or my website.

@Disastorm 3 жыл бұрын

are resistors not needed?

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

No. Not at all.

@ryanchenoweth5673 Жыл бұрын

Wondering how many you are able to run off one board? 🤔

@joshuamarius Жыл бұрын

On a Leo Bodnar BBI-32 you have 32 digital pins and this encoder requires 5 inputs. 32 / 5 = 6 Encoders On the Arduino 2560 you have 50 usable digital pins, so 50/5 = 10 Encoders

@ryanchenoweth5673 Жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius thanks mate 🙏

@ttyoung3046 2 жыл бұрын

thanks the BBI-32 cost GBP29.99

@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

That is correct! Totally worth it!

@pesto12601 3 жыл бұрын

That seems like a LOT of money for a single knob!!

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the world of Simulation, or even Aviation; everything is expensive. This is by far the cheapest solution you will find. Even knobster which is pre-assembled and plug n' play averages $129 which is twice as much as this. This encoder is the cheapest one you can find. A high Quality ELMA can go for as high as $27-30 per encoder.

@pesto12601 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius Yeah.. seems everything is expensive but I guess that comes down to the small market... supply/demand... anyway - thx for putting this tutorials together!!

@user_16309 Жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius Is Elma a brand? What is special about that one in particular? Thanks. Also, are the knobs that come with that one from Propwash hard plastic or the rubber-ish feel some electronics knobs have?

@Hoodman_UK 2 жыл бұрын

'EASY'

@joshuamarius Жыл бұрын

Even a Caveman can do it! 🗿🗿

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

For a good review of different USB Interface Cards used for Cockpit Building, gaming, specifically Flight Simulator, X-Plane, prepar3d and others, check out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g512q5hlysWypIE.html

@ZoeSummers1701A 3 жыл бұрын

This is misleading because MSFS doesn’t allow you to bind to the g1000 as of today. In fact you (sneakily) show x-plane’s binding screen.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

The video clearly states it's made for all Simulators but the G1000 function example is shown for X-Plane - nothing sneaky about that. We then show an Aviatek G1000 unit interacting directly with MSFS's G1000; this took further development and Aviatek pulled it off. There is nothing misleading about the video because in the end, you would have successfully added the encoder to your simulator.

@BernardDadea 2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius It is kind of misleading for people that are looking for solutions for FS2020. I found this video hoping I can map it to FS2020 but didn't. Your title says "Easy", and not you're pointing that Aviatek G1000 was able to do it with further development. That's not "EASY".

@joshuamarius 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. The title of the video does not say anywhere that it is specific to the G1000 functions. It just shows you an easy way to add a rotary encoder to your flight simulator, whether you use it for adjusting your heading or radio frequencies. The fact that a function is not implemented in FS2020 is unfortunately out of my reach. To be clear, I did not create this video to target specifically the G1000 in FS2020, it was made to show you an easy way to add an encoder.

@kennethwheeler9270 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you buy ready made overpriced solutions and plug one into another... that's really simple indeed. It's just everybody already knows that.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry but I don't understand your comment.

@kennethwheeler9270 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius Oh, I mean there's no "added value" in your videos - they're just ads.

@joshuamarius 3 жыл бұрын

I welcome helpful comments but unfortunately I disagree. I've had tons of people thank me for the video which answered many questions they had, and helped them finally complete their projects. You have to remember that not everybody is at your level of knowledge and simple videos like these help out.

@user_16309 Жыл бұрын

@@joshuamarius So say we all.