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Your bike reviews have been so helpful and are definitely steering us towards the Peloton. Thank you so much for these in-depth reviews. Best of all the videos we have checked out!

I have been waiting for this one.

I've been researching the echelon for a few now and this is is the first time I've heard about these connectivity problems. Thanks for the balanced review.

Thank you so much for your videos! It really changed my mine. I was going to buy a NordicTrack CST Fusion with their bike as I wanted to keep the same brands Now I am considering Echelon and Peleton

Thank you for the balanced review.

Thank you, I really love your review. I've been trying to decide whether to buy the peliton vs the echelon. I'm going to hold off and come back and watch your reviews. I can honestly say that your reviews have been the best. Very thoughtful and honest by far. So, even though I want a bike now, I'm going to hold off and wait for your next review. And then decide. Thanks😊

Your video is SO informative and you are so educated. It’s making me think I’ve been mispronouncing the word “Echelon” all this time. 😀 Most everyone else pronounces it with a soft ch sound (sh) but I’m trusting how you say it after watching this video 😍. Great vid!!

Thx for the review. Based in part on your review I bought the Echelon Connect 5s and couldn’t be more pleased. I’m 6’4” and very comfortable. I came from the Expresso (more upright) and this is way more solid.

Watched a ton of your videos before I eventually bought my peloton. This just reinforced the decision as I was initially going to buy an echelon... but ended up splurging on the Peloton. Thank you very much, I really appreciate the genuine reviews and different tips and tricks you provide in your videos. :)

Very helpful! Thanks for the review and getting into the technical details. Helped me decide to hold off for the new peloton bike!

Very informative thank you!

Great review and video! 👍🏾

I've had my Echelon Bike for several weeks now. No issues. And Echelon does use a wire to connect the bike to the screen now. Initially ordered a Peloton waited 11 weeks for delivery then the day they were supposed to deliver they called and said they couldn't deliver the bike due to inventory problems. That was on January 13 2021. And then they said they couldn't deliver the bike until April 22 2021. I was annoyed but initially agreed to wait. Then for some reason I decided to check their ratings on the Better Business Bureau and they were dismal. I read through some of them and most spoke to the same issue that I had, they sold me a bike that they didn't have. Oh and by the way they had already started taking my money. In any event I ended up cancelling the order and buying the Echelon bike. I saved $1100 by doing so and am very pleased with the performance of it. Hope this helps someone along their way. Cheers.

Great truthfully review... thank you

Your reviews of this bike are spot on! I made the leap and purchased this model after watching this and the "Battle Royal" reviews. The bike quality is very sturdy and it very solid. I was pretty happy with the bike until I came across the dreaded Bluetooth issue. The Bluetooth has been constantly disconnecting from the bike (very annoying). I was hoping this would be fixed by the time I made the purchase last month. Your other comment about the resistance level of the bike is minimal but it left me thinking, "Is this the hardest?" With the rollout of the Peloton Bike+ and the price drop of the older model, I have decided to return this and go with the Peloton (not the Bike+). If I'm spending $2000, I want the equipment to work and not have to "fix" it.

Great info, thank you!

Great video Travis, I've watched this several times and the same with several of your other bike reviews and found them all very helpful. I definitely think it would be beneficial if you were able to re-visit bikes a year down the line, get the newer/upgraded model, and see whether the initial review still holds mustard or whether issues have been ironed out. Sadly Peloton do not deliver where I live and out of all the bikes you review I think I am limited to Echelon or NordicTrack. I'm drawn to the EX5S but my primary concern is potentially dropping upwards of £1,600+ on something and running in to issues that take weeks or even MONTHS to fix. I expect a lot of your YT community is US based and a lot of the negative reviews across the internet seem to be from US consumers. Hopefully the UK customer service is a step-up, although the real hope would be that Echelon (or anyone I guess) could produce a bike that just... worked...? :D

Thanks for the video! Looks like @Fit Lab used some of your content in their comparison video.

You have helped me a lot. I didn't want to spend the extra on the peloton and I don't necessarily care for my nordictrac treadmill, so I was going to try this.

Great info... thanks

Nice Vid Trevor

Travis, you are RIGHT ON about the issues with the monitor becoming disconnected. I find if I ride the bike just a little on my off-days the connection will hold. I bought in March at start of COVID and still have the issue.

Amazing video! Great insight! Thank you for the great detail. Very helpful. I was in between the Peloton Bike and EX5S. I'm leaning towards the EX5S. Question - does the EX5S allow for casting the screen onto a TV?

I have a gen 1 peloton and learned the hard way that the best option is to buy equipment that uses external tablets. The gen 1 peloton is so laggy that getting through rides is a chore. If you use an external tablet, you can more easily keep it current without spending a ridiculous amount of money. In addition to the peloton I have an echelon rower and love it. I don't feel like using a generic tablet takes away from the experience. I will likely switch to an echelon bike because I tend to like the smaller class sizes echelon has which allows for more interaction with the trainers like you used to get from peloton. I was leaning towards the ex5 since it was their highest end model without a built in display.

Thank you for review, was trying to decide.

Another awesome review. We just made a new playlist on our Indoor Cycling Channel and have added this video.

I got the Echelon "sport" connect from Walmart and it was on sale for $299!!!! (normally $599 which is not bad) VERY STURDY and rides great. I use the Peloton App $12/mo and free month and the Echelon app for cadence and resistance under "freestyle ride" without a monthly sub. Had it a month and i think its great- have done over 30 Peloton rides and had a month. Lost inches already- feelin good. What a great price considering the website Echelon's are way more expensive. Quiet, super sturdy, and i use the conversion chart for resistance u can find on internet.

Have an Echelon Sport and had a few BT connectivitiy issue but most have been fixed with just resetting the bike. Since it doesn't have a hard wired in screen and I use my iPad Air a good thing is I can cast/mirror the screen onto my Smart TV across the room so much bigger picture and that works well. Also if you have iPad and Iphone or smartphone you can hack and take Peloton classes also using the echelon bike. Peloton classes seem a bit more polished and mature but hope Echelon will catch up! Great review.

Appreciate your review. I can’t wait for the Peloton vs Nordictrack vs Echelon bike review.

This was a really good review. Travis is spot on when it comes to the things that can go wrong which is the Bluetooth controlling the bike connecting to the classes and to your heart monitor. With the Peloton, once you use your Bluetooth headset/heart monitor you are good to go. With the Echelon, I had some issues with connecting my heart rate monitor to the classes and the bike not always connecting to the class once it starts. I recently moved my bike to a different location of the room and since then, I haven’t had this issue so I’m going to assume the Bluetooth on the bike was conflicting with other Bluetooth devices I have in the space I once had the bike in.

my wife is about to order this bike and i thought id check it out we are both new to the bike thing so im sure this will do us fine

I Really appreciate your review. You do a great job of making video personal, trustworthy and easy to follow. I just recently ordered one, the issue was not with the bike and corrected with the update. I noticed your comment regarding the HRM. I would like to know what HRM straps paired with the EX-5s.

Just some info for your viewers about my current experience. I purchased the ex7s. Put it together, like you said, simple enough. There are three different cables that hard-wire through the handle bars and come out the front and plug in to the back of the monitor. However, there is still a blue tooth connection because when you turn it on a blue light blinks to pair mode. Everything seemed to be syncing fine, entered a ride and turned resistance knob, the number on the screen increased but not physically easier/harder to pedal. Called support and they sent links to get into admin screens as mentioned in your other comments, but it won't even go into the screen they say it is supposed to so you can make the changes they suggest. I emailed the support person back this morning and got no response today, so I'll try back tomorrow. This is not turning out to be a good experience in my opinion, and judging from the other comments I wonder if I should just return, get my money back, and try for Peleton.

Another great review- are you getting the new peloton bike to review? I’d love To see if you think it’s Worth the upgrade. Thank you. Love the channel!

Has anyone used both Peloton and Echelon EX-5s? How does the output compare between bikes? Say you did a 20-minute ride on both bikes, would the output be similar or would one bike be higher than the other? Thanks.

Does it track miles, RPMs, watt's without a membership?

I ordered my echelon 2 weeks ago and it came 4 days ago. Honey plugin saved me 300 dollars on 1 year, the ex 5s, and shoes and I got the whole package after the honey thing for 1600 delivered. when I put it together there was a weird line down the screen. I sent a picture and a text message to echelon and they overnighted me a new screen with a box to ship this one back in. I have had nothing but a great experience with them so far.

I've had the Echelon ex-5s for a week here's my take: Bike was most likely returned as the weights were missing and the monitor had some light scratches, there is also a sound coming from the flywheel that disappears when peddling backwards (Echelon is sending me a new drive belt), I love that the handlebars are adjustable that alone is enough for me to choose this bike over the Peleton, the videos on the Echelon app are of varying degrees of quality but the screen itself is capable of HD 1080 and the KZfaq videos on it are quite nice, (If you want a better tablet with 4k be prepared to spend $1000 just for that plus the cost of a spin bike), I have no issues with the instructors as compared to those on Peleton (I have the Peleton app running on my Echelon so have been able to compare yes hacked tablet), As one who has been spinning for decades now no one would be disappointed by the quality of the workout on this bike even if they just used the Echelon app. As for the cost of the bike it's justified because as I mentioned earlier large tablets are very expensive and I need the monitor on the bike as there is no place to hang a TV where I have the bike. All in all satisfied with the purchase and best of all it arrived in two days after placing the order the Peleton would have taken three months!

Enjoyed your video. I’m looking at getting the EX5 , the model without the screen so I can use my own tablet rather than a built in display. Aside from the technical connectivity issues, do you remember how the bike was overall aside from that? Was it quality outside of connectivity issues? Feel like it’ll stand up to hours of use from a pure riding/exercise perspective?

Another great review with lots of helpful info. I don’t care for their ecosystem at all. I’ll stick to Peloton app. I’m considering the Echelon EX15 (Amazon / Sport - Walmart version). Could you please do a review on it vs Peloton? Thanks!

VIDEO IDEA: Hey Travis, had an idea for a video. A lot of your viewers (me included) are doing the DIY Peloton route with an off-brand bike. Since these bikes don't have the same resistance as a Peloton, I thought someone with a Peloton (e.g. you) could do some spindowns with their bike and then show the results (it's basically how long it takes the bike to spin down from a set cadence, like 60 RPM). So you could do for example 4 spindowns and record the time it took to spin down at 20 resistance, 40, 60 and 80. Then the DIY people could calibrate their bike's resistance against the times you show us to get a rough idea. I thought it would be pretty easy content and I know it's something a lot of people want: a way to estimate their resistance against what the instructor means when they say "30" or "50" . Thoughts?

Hi noticed the rack in the background. I have the same one for years. Went to a local welder and welded on hooks to bench from the front. Looks and works great. Just an idea.

Thanks Travis for this detailed review. Me and my wife have gone through a lot of the reviews and the comparisons as they give us a very good information and details and we are trying to make a informed decision on which bike to get. I have a question regarding this Echelon bike, by any means do you know if echelon has fixed the Bluetooth issue with this bike or the newer one EX7s. Also is the review for Echelon EX7s coming soon?

Hello Travis! You make great reviews! I was wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions on The EX5 and the Sunny you had reviewed. When doing sprints and general use which one is the most stable? Which one do you think has the most resistance? Thank you!

Just want to mention that there is a great app that allows Echelon owners and most others to use Zwift (and other apps). It's called "qdomyos-zwift". Travis, don't know if this is of interest to you but would make for a great review... Also, great site and reviews

Anyone have trouble clipping into their bike pedal? Is there a way to reduce clip tension to make clipping in and out easier?

I just got my sport and it worked great for about 5 minutes and now I can’t get the bike to connect to the Bluetooth and read my stats/metrics. I tried to reconnect and it starts beeping all crazy. I didn’t even finish my workout. I just gave up. Lol

Love your reviews. Have you done one on the keiser m3i?

I just received my Echelon EX5s today and I'm having bluetooth issues as well. It seems that bluetooth is disabled but it wont enable it. It will not connect to the bike because it is disabled but I have not found a way to get this to work. I'm now waiting for support to get back with me in 24-48 hours. A little bummed.

Hey Travis, thank you for the videos. Was curious if you have any opinions on rear driver bikes vs front drive? Anything you've learned or heard that would give one an advantage over the other?

Thanks for your amazing reviews. Will you ever review the Keiser M3i? Thanks much!

Hey thanks Travis for a really good review...quick question...can you measure the max height setting on the handlebars and tell me the height from the floor to the handlebar? preferably the handlebar that is closest to the body. I am 6'1" but have a 35" inseam and therefore the seat needs to be really high but my problem with the Peloton is the handlebar, max height, isn't tall enough for me to ride a bit more upright. I'm going to return the Peloton and am hoping the Echelon has a max height adjustment that is better (in addition to the more v style frame).

Not a one off issue with connectivity. Just got our Echelon Mid January 2021 , having issues as well. Bluetooth to Apple Beats NFG, and internet wireless connection. Wireless Speed test beside unit 75 MBPS. Calling Echelon tech tomorrow hopefully they have a fix!

Can you use clip-ins on current spin shoes -- bought at store? What kind of music do they use -- originals or covers?

I’ve had my echelon for a couple of years and I still have a hard time connecting the bike to my app. Every time. I’ve had workouts stop in the middle and not be able to finish. They have always had technology problems. The main thing I have a problem with is my knee always hits the resistance knob when I’m standing and changes the resistance because it moves when you barely touch it. Does the Peloton do this? If anyone is trying to decide between the two bikes, all I can say is if you can afford the Peloton, buy the Peloton.

Just got my EX5S, prior to seeing this video. So far I am happy, though... I purchased a Echelon Armband hear rate monitor and it will not sync. I posted my issue on their Facebook page on a Sunday and was surprised to get a response back. Unfortunately the customer service person on the other end of the chat did not seem to know that the device i had was Echelon branded and told me to push the "pair" button on the side of the device. There is no pair button on the side of the device. I am going to be patient. I think that the enormous number of sales due to COVID have probably been overwhelming. We shall see...

Thanks for the review it was excellent, I am watching this post purchase and have been riding the dickens ot of my echalon. I haven't encountered any of the software problems that you spoke of, also I believe that they removed the bluetooth option as during my install, i was connecting a cable from my bike to the monitor so I am thinking they switched to a hard wire. I am noticing some creaking in the pedal arms when I stand to ride (may just be as I am pretty heavy) but was wondering if you had encountered any of these at all on stand up portions? Thanks again!

So do I have to have the bike hooked up to Bluetooth so the adjuster will work the tension adjuster. Because I tried to adjust it manually and does not seem to work

Thank you for your video! Do you still have the echelon? are you having other problems? I have a problem with the resistance cord, and have no idea how to change it, and can't find a video on how to change it, and was hoping you could help if you are experiencing the same issue!

I was thinking of getting the echelon ex3 (without screen) and then use with the Peloton App. Do you think that would be good?

Great review, thanks for posting. I have been looking at the ex5 (non s model) to use my iPad with Apple fitness. Cannot find reviews of that bike anywhere! Wondering if using your own device like that will fix the connectivity issues. I was looking at this vs the Schwinn ic4 as I like the rear flywheel design and the water bottle holders seem better placed. Thoughts?

Thanks for this review. I was Costco today and they resolved this issue with hardwiring the computer system.

What about the music playing during an echelon ride? How does it compare?

So I just got the ex4s and I’m also having Bluetooth connecting issues in connecting the bike to the tablet. How did you fix it?

I really appreciate the review and I’m also looking forward to the future review! Quick question, do you think the EX-3 with utilizing the peloton app would work? Thanks for the great info!

Good Review - Wish I would have seen this before we bought yesterday! My understanding is that you can also use the Peleton app with this, is that true? Also, it seems like you need to be connected to the app to get the resistance to work, did you have this same experience? Thanks

Do you have any opinion regarding the spin wheel being in front on the Peloton vs the spin wheel being on the back on the Echelon?

Great review, thanks. I just picked up an EX4s, which appears to be a Costco exclusive model and looks like the EX5s but with a smaller monitor (tablet). I've had it 4 days now and on day 2 I started to experience the tablet shutdown-reboot problem that you describe. I noticed in your later video (Echelon v. NordicTrak v. Peloton) that Echelon got this problem fixed for you. Can you describe what they did? I'm assuming the software is the same on my 4s as the larger tablet on your 5s.

I own a Peloton and I love it but I want to add a bike to our summer home. I thought with my existing Peloton app subscription I would be a little less price aggressive. I'd love to get the IC4 but the wait time is the full summer so that's out. I've narrowed it to the Echelon EX3 or the Sunny with the tablet holder built in. Want to help me with a decision? Thank you

I have connection issues as well with the ex4s+ from Costco. It is connected through a DC cable and still has issues staying connected. The cable connection seemed very flimsy and needed to be taped in place to work. After two days, got fed up and returned it to Costco for another one. It had the exact same issues with the plug not staying in the provided tablet so I returned that one as well. Pretty bummed out because the bike itself seemed to be great quality. Not sure if it's worth getting a different model echelon or not.

I appreciate the honesty in your reviews about each of these bikes you have been testing - the good and the not so good. How long from order to delivery did it take for you to obtain your Echelon? I ordered the MYX fitness bike in early May and am being told it takes a good 8 weeks to ship & deliver. MYX fitness also has the interactive 22" screen, but unlike the Echelon, it is physically fastened to the bike with a wired connector and still costs less. Hope you review the MYX bike as well.

Great review. Can you still ride the bike and make adjustments if the monitor bugs out or disconnects

Care to share what you did on the backend to fix your connection issue? We're not seeing any sort of light coming from the bike anymore. I've gained access to the Android OS and went through and reset bluetooth cache, storage, toggled bluetooth and wifi on/off etc. Nothing seems to help. The IT guy in me really wants to fix this!

Hi Travis, could you check if the Bluetooth issue is resolved and let us know. I wrote the company and said that they updated the software recently and it should be fine now. If it is, I’ll be placing my order soon

Thanks for this great video! I wish I had seen it before buying the Echelon, which has been soooo glitchy. Every time I log on to a live class, the app fails to read my stats on the leaderboard and I have to sign out and back in several times before it finally clicks into place. I lose about three minutes each time, which means I have to play catchup with everyone who has not been experiencing the issue. Frustrating to say the least. And the customer service was so slow to respond and never came up with a solution (other than to tell me to turn it off and back on again, which didn't really work either). I'm returning the Echelon within the 30-day window and getting a Peloton.

Hi Travis, thank you so much for the review. I went ahead and purchased the Echelon based on your review and others and generally am very happy. The one thing that I'm not sure of is a design flaw or perhaps I have a bad bike. I don't feel any resistance until I get to about 16-18 on the resistance dial. Is that your experience or should I seek to replace the bike? Can't really get a straight answer from Echelon. I don't think the people in customer service have ever ridden the bike. What was your experience relative to where you start to feel the resistance catch? At what number do you feel the resistance. Doesn't make sense to me to have a scale from 1-32 when you can't feel any change until about 16.

Do you think I can use my iPAD on the EX5 and get the same experience? The bike is $400 less without the monitor. I expect to cast to my television anyway. Any other differences between the EX5 and the EX5S?

Currently there are Peloton bikes in my apartment gym, although they’ve been closed for months now. After trying the Peloton I wish the handlebars were a few inches closer. I’m 5’2” and I was wondering if you feel like the echelon gives that option. With the handlebars and seat closest together do you think it’s a smaller reach than the peloton for us short people?

How was their scenic ride? Im hoping not to buy a nordictrack but I can’t find a bike that has a nice scenic ride options.

Do you like the Echelon EX3 and EX5 (without screen) over the Bowflex C6/Schwinn? I’m trying to decide between these bikes and right now one of the biggest factors is shipping speed. It looks like Echelon is shipping quicker

Travis, the console on the EX5s... is that just a buffed up android tablet? If so, is that the only difference between the 5 and the 5S? In other words, should we have issues with the included monitor/tablet could we get by with a handheld tablet until a new console is sent? Just wondering, as that would also open the door to getting admin access and installing netflix or audible.

I have a question on the resistance knob I'm having a difficult problem with it where it doesn't seem to be tightened up what could be the problem

Good review they need to go back and redo their product

I just got my EX5S and not only did it have bluetooth issues...the resistance knob I think is not synching properly as well. The resistance on 1 feels like it is already on 20. I tried everything even updating app through a USB etc etc. Echelon is sending me a replacement but I'm bummed out as well cuz I spent over a month and a half already waiting on this bike

Could you please do an updated review on whether the issues you found have been addressed?

The bike reminds me of the Keiser bikes

Does the weight of the flywheel effect the maximum intensity you can reach in the workout? I need a spin bike where I can do interval training to reach my maximum heart rate.

One year later, what would you say? Have those problem been fixed?

I just got he EX-4S from Costco that has the 10" screen. Was wondering how to chromecast from the panel directly but have found nothing. Tried to enter the admin mode and it doesn't work per the instructions. Any help is greatly appreciated...

Great review. I just purchased this bike. I don't even have it yet. I am 56 years old and weight 270 pounds. I have purchased this to help accomplish my weight loss journey. Question - are there classes that will suit my skill (or lack thereof) level? Or will every class have 20 and 30 year olds wearing 7-11 bike shirts that I won't be able to keep up with?

the UI was so similar to peloton that I thought you could just install the app and use it on this bike.

How can I use this bike without the monitor and still get stats?

In the end, this is part of the reason I went with the EX5 rather than the EX5s.

so if i hardwire i wont run into the connection problems right

I have a question. I have literally sat watching all your vids and they are great. But I am left with one question. I like the sunny bike that you reviewed about, but I am wondering about the resistant/level. How can I sync that to the app or have it digital so that I can be on the same number as the instructors. I don’t want to get a bike with the monitor, you being in the computer world know that those things are like buying a all in one computer...it’s just not good. So, I want to have the full experience with out breaking the bank or buying the monitor with the bike. I am sorry for the silly question, I am completely new to the bike world. Please help :)

I’m waiting on your final comparison bc right now I’m torn between the peleton and Nordic track. I’m waiting to see your final video prior to making a purchase

What are your 3 top favorite bikes?

Sadly I just received an EX5s and had exactly the same problem with the bluetooth. Like you I thought it would be sorted by now, but clearly there are either faulty bluetooth chips out there or they have limitations with being to update the software. I also had a dead pixel on the screen, which I was willing to look past, but with the bluetooth issue it's going back. Over to Peloton I go!

Which is better between the Schiwnn IC4 and the Echelon EX3?