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@idunno_justbored.78384 ай бұрын
I can't place a comment??? Somehow reply works. Phones are odd.
@rudysmith15524 ай бұрын
I pray to panties every day
@feelingdedinside4 ай бұрын
Doesnt derange and orange rhyme ?
@amv26944 ай бұрын
in the end Re-Zero wins the cake with 25 oranges . Best Protagonist : Echidna Best Fight Scene : Echidna drinks the bodily fluids Best Soundtrack : Re:Zero S2 OST Echidna Best Waifus : Echidna Best Storytelling : Echidna (エキドナ) was the Witch of Greed. Mentioned throughout the series, particularly for her connection to Roswaal and Beatrice, she formally debuted in Arc 4 as a major supporting character and later secondary antagonist. Best Animation : her jiggly お尻とおっぱい Best OP : BRUH IT STARTS WITH HER AND ENDS WITH HER SMILE (Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- Season 2) Best Episode : EVER Episode had Echidna in it Best Characters : Echidna ( you ask me why ?): -Race :Human -Gender :Female -Age :19 (Castle of Dreams version)( Not illegal :D ) -Mid 20s (actual body) :400+ (soul) -Hair Color :White -Eye Color :Black (Iris) White (Pupil) -Height :164 cm (5'5")
@feelingdedinside4 ай бұрын
@@idunno_justbored.7838 nah youtube is broken
@eletro64994 ай бұрын
the "they both like chests" was clever
@Roeclean4 ай бұрын
@Ytfku Hol Up, what do you mean by that🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Durandal-vi5pv4 ай бұрын
amazing chest ahead
@kidszergaming48154 ай бұрын
Why ffrieren like songs
@Asic2294 ай бұрын
@@Durandal-vi5pv*shockingly large chest ahead*
@atadawiyu_ch3 ай бұрын
a chest with a 1 percent legendary grimoire drop
@raze65994 ай бұрын
This video was clearly just a disguise to conceal echidnut's love for oranges
@ricardovelasquez7914 ай бұрын
I agree
@clashwithkeen4 ай бұрын
i share his love for oranges but I'm still mad that he made me ruin a bag of grapes by putting them in the freezer. I couldn't eat them cause they were like rocks and when they thawed enough to eat they were mushy. DONT FALL FOR IT, IT'S ALL LIES
@HatTrkPatrk3 ай бұрын
And what's not to love!
@sw1ft_storm61328 күн бұрын
@@clashwithkeen you need to eat one like every 2 seconds to test if it’s thawed enough then you have 1 minute to eat the rest before they thaw more
@kirbyjoe74845 күн бұрын
And Mushoku Tensei.
@TraXEdu2 ай бұрын
Something I noticed after watching both animes is that Mushoku Tensei is deeper than it initially appears. What seems like a regular isekai anime actually takes us on a profound journey of a geek who gets a second chance at life. It made me think, "How would it be if this happened to me as well?" The characters in Mushoku Tensei are so unique that many viewers can relate to them. For example, Rudeus undergoes significant development over the years. You can see how he connects with this new world and learns to love-not just Sylphie, but also his family. The anime is special because of these meaningful and sentimental moments that permeate the story.
@rushindweeb408519 күн бұрын
Until it turned into a trashy in-ses-t harem anime
@happygiyuu17 күн бұрын
@@rushindweeb4085ah yes because all the siblings of the land started the ancient cesty game
@rushindweeb408517 күн бұрын
@@happygiyuu look up the greyrat family tree and you'll see how many of his kids marry their uncles and aunts And even though it was removed due to how messed up it was, rudeus' sister aisha (early to mid 20s) seduced his son when he was around 12 and rudeus walks in on them doing the deed. After the whole family rejects their relationship they run away together and are found about two years later and she's pregnant with his kid...
@happygiyuu17 күн бұрын
@@rushindweeb4085 I guess my comment was a bit more truthful lol, Ik the spoiler of sun freaky incest shit. Spoiler… Aisha went to Ars because she saw Rudeus in him. And the reason she was after Rudeus is because Lilias dumbass basically said she had to serve Rudeus forever lol I get whachu mean tho
@rushindweeb408517 күн бұрын
@@happygiyuu that's why I said she seduced him So yeah, your comment before was actually spot on xD
@moelester29374 ай бұрын
YES! You're one of the only people that pointed out how MT's intros integrated into the scenery and how that made it so much better. I hope they start doing that again since that was one of my favorite parts about the show.
@xbgsheikiii35933 ай бұрын
yeah with turning point 3 its a great occasion to do it again
@user-zl1vf4me1p2 ай бұрын
@@xbgsheikiii3593 maybe next season idk, what I do know is that they gotta get on business with animation quality for that one
@paulbui14102 ай бұрын
I hope they really do the season 1 openings again, it made the world feel so big and vibrant. With the new openings and story direction so far the world feels so small again.
@namehere139Ай бұрын
its probably unlikely tho, cus a set intro sequence saves time in animating each episode. The reason for s1 having those integrated intros was likely the abundance of time given to produce s1 compared to the very little time to produce s2.
@kaito98364 ай бұрын
Not counting Denken as a waifu is a criminal act.
@xolt10654 ай бұрын
REAL
@xolt10654 ай бұрын
(I'm a man)
@Roeclean4 ай бұрын
That's a man
@a1racer4414 ай бұрын
Denken is a man's man dude ran out of mp and charged in swinging hands at people 3 times younger than himself. who doesn't like Denken.
@stikkiet17184 ай бұрын
@@Roeclean so?
@SeanMania2134 ай бұрын
I’m just glad I live in a world with both
@RED_XLR4 ай бұрын
Watch Delicious in dungeon, it's really good too, similarly good. By that I mean it has a lot of the same qualities that makes Frieren and Mushoku good af, but the anime is made by Studio Trigger. I've been enjoying it this season too.
@Gudies4 ай бұрын
@@kwebvin9939delete this comment you spoiled the most important plot twist
@Stonewielder4 ай бұрын
@@kwebvin9939 Is there an anime/movie/show that you really want to watch? Let me know so I can spoil it for you.
@voidboi28314 ай бұрын
@@Gudiesthe most important plot twist _so far_
@pebberito3 ай бұрын
@@kwebvin9939it gets better yknow
@sunfromtheeast4 ай бұрын
MT is a study in character development.
@ponderingmonk525Ай бұрын
Fr
@kirbyjoe74845 күн бұрын
So is Frieren.
@Cryogenx374 ай бұрын
I really like how MT does its side characters and how many of them go about their own character devlopment, especially after they meet Rudeus. And even then, Rudeus isn't the only person who helps them change. Sylphie Before Rudeus: she was a timid, shy elf with no friends, being bullied and discriminated against due to her green hair. After Rudeus: she became a highly skilled mage in her own right albeit too attached to Rudeus. However, after the Mana Disaster, she became more of her own person after meeting and becoming friends with Ariel & Luke. Roxy Before Rudeus: she was a Saint-class Water Mage who was very headstrong and ran away from her own parents & tribe. When she became a mage, she also ran away from her own teacher, Jenius. After Rudeus: she became a King-class Water mage, and after meeting back with Nokopara (the horse demon dude), she finally reconciliated with her parents. (she will also eventually reconcile with Jenius, but that's a little bit later and was like a paragraph or so in passing) Eris Before Rudeus: she was a... violent beast of a child, who only looked up to her grandfather and Ghislaine and refused to better herself from various tutors. After Rudeus: she was able to learn some basic education. She also became skilled thanks to the help of Ghislaine and Ruijerd's training, as well as adventuring with Rudeus & Ruijerd as Dead End. Though, she did leave him, that is until... Ruijerd Before Rudeus: he was a Superd living all alone in the Demon continent, finding no luck on how to repair the reputation of his people. After Rudeus: he was finding hope for his people's reputation to be mended and even found himself being able to talk with other people, despite telling them he was a Superd. Zanoba Before Rudeus: he was just the 7th prince of Shirone, only caring about art, specifically statues/figurines, even seeing only other people as just dolls made of flesh. After Rudeus: he started to care about other people, especially during his studies at Ranoa University and when he met and basically adopted Juliette. Cliff Before Rudeus: he was just a prideful boy boasting his Advanced-level magic skills, looking down on other people. After Rudeus: he became more humbled over time, and was able to find love through Elinalise, which allowed him to care more for other people and be willing to help them. And this is just only a handful of important characters so far
@greninjaaaaaaa4 ай бұрын
And the fact that you listed like 6 important characters and didn't cover any one of the characters I think are the best written characters IN mushoku tensei, just says it all.
@CC-of5xl4 ай бұрын
Norn Before Rudeus: not alive After Rudeus: best girl Jokes aside though she's genuinely great and I think it comes down to her being a "normal" person surrounded by legends. They could have done what most stories do and made her sympathetic in every way by making her the "ugly duckling" but instead there's nothing wrong with her and she doesn't really having any giant weakness compared to the average person. It's just that she doesn't get compared to average people and has to make her own path in a setting where she is disadvantaged. In fact her one strength above normal people would be her looks but that's a family trait and adds to the expectations of greatness she has to deal with.
@quangtuantran71813 ай бұрын
Norn, imo, is the most well written character in the series. I mean, the author said it himself, that he had to chose another MC to write abt, he would pick Norn
@jaywilliams6983 ай бұрын
@@quangtuantran7181 I wrote a comment talking about how the most recent episode was one of the best in the series even from the perspective of someone who finished the light novel it was extremely well done and made me like Norn even more than I did after reading the light novel. Man this is probably one of the most emotional seasons
@tylerd.12 ай бұрын
Gosh dude the characters in Mushoku Tensei and the whole world is like watching an actual world, not just an anime. Like all the people that even have just a slight amount of influence play a role and even the side characters to a certain extent. All the characters in the show you think have no depth are likely well acquainted with some of the main characters/side characters and it feels like they’re genuinely real people (like Nokopara knowing Roxy and Zanoba’s perv brother being our introduction to Zanoba as a character) Every little thing is interconnected but it doesn’t get ahead of itself and stays within the boundaries that is reality and feels like it could have actually happened within the story/world that story is set in itself
@HelloHero084 ай бұрын
Roses are red, Violets are blue, Roxy is best girl, Here's an orange for you.
@cpnsumthin4 ай бұрын
Roxy is the best waifu might be better rhymes with you
@RED_XLR4 ай бұрын
@@cpnsumthin True.
@KirtiMukh4 ай бұрын
She is the worst out of them Edit :-For me it's orstead> sylphy>eris>roxy
@wahzawahzo29494 ай бұрын
Roses are red Please accept my pledge When Eris comes into sight I start to edge
@antarcticpenguin420694 ай бұрын
And Frieren's the best Momma
@ssshiro4 ай бұрын
Bro just casually dropped one of the most sinister takes on oranges and acted like nothing happened. I FUCKING LOVE ORANGES. Also I hope Mushoku Tensei and Frieren get infinite seasons because of how peak they are
@Echidnut4 ай бұрын
Thank you bro 😎
@Sukenus4 ай бұрын
Infinite seasons sound good, but I'd prefer if we get to see the ending.
@ssshiro4 ай бұрын
@@Sukenus real
@KhanMann664 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Frieren s2 is up in the air. Madhouse isn’t known for making s2 and if they do it usually is sub par compared to season 1.
@Sukenus4 ай бұрын
@@KhanMann66 The studio doesn't matter. It can change for season 2. With Frieren specifically, the main issue is we have to wait for more of the story to be released in the manga first.
@CC-of5xl4 ай бұрын
One orange to Frieren because I can actually recommend it to people. My sister and I bond over being fantasy nerds but there's no chance in hell I'm recommending Mushoku Tensei to her. Although orange to Mushoku Tensei for doing the shit that makes it impossible to recommend. It might make me uncomfortable with alot of wtf did I just read/watch moments but atleast it handles things in a unique way I've never seen before.
@randyrandom33583 ай бұрын
If it helps, I watched both Frieren and MT with my mom.
@nitroon84763 ай бұрын
I agree with you here. Personally, I preferred Mushoku Tensei because of how massive of an impact it brought to my life. However, I can't really recommend this to my other friends, especially if they're new to this controversial topic. Frieren, on the other hand, despite not having a large impact as MT, I happily shared and discussed this series with my other friends, even to those who doesn't watch anime
@kor-_e3 ай бұрын
@@randyrandom3358what 💀
@piratejayesh84223 ай бұрын
I agree It's the same for me Both me and my sister love anime I recommended her frieren and told her it was my favorite fantasy anime But in reality MT is my favorite And not in a million years I will suggest MT to her She knows about it but I have warned her like it was 'Berserk' and not 'MT'
@ro_3mpire0_o65Ай бұрын
Balls of f-ing tungsten @@randyrandom3358
@YassutaroGames3 ай бұрын
5:50 "Orsted..." killed me tho lol
@user-px6my4tl3z2 ай бұрын
Killed Rudy too
@FalacieenАй бұрын
Dragon daddy is the best
@commandoepsilon466425 күн бұрын
@@user-px6my4tl3z He got better...
@ietdkvd19 күн бұрын
Dont forget Vita and Radar Reia, The Dragon Kingdom Emperor, 2 Dragon General
@No-fh5lz4 ай бұрын
“The orange is such a superior fruit that they named the color after it. And NOTHING rhymes with it.” God tier reference had me cackling outloud
@GuacJohnson4 ай бұрын
"I took my orange 4-inch door-hinge out of storage then ate porridge with George"
@XtQuiet4 ай бұрын
@@GuacJohnson dick head you fuckin beat me to it
@RedRocket40004 ай бұрын
Not to mention the House of Orange is the Royalty of Holland.
@voidboi28314 ай бұрын
@@GuacJohnsonliterally none of those were a perfect rhyme. there was not a single word other than orange with the exact ending of the -ore-inge ending sound
@SnakeInTheRain3 ай бұрын
Should've just said syringe @@GuacJohnson
@sanuthweerasinghe78254 ай бұрын
I disagree with the take that Frieren doesn't change tbh. The entire point of Frieren is her making a conscious effort to appreciate the time she has more. Sure her development isn't quite as drastic as Rudeus's but she still very much consistently shows growth throughout the show. From her learning that the time she spends isn't just her own anymore, to her appreciating things because she's experiencing them with people she cares about even if its something she considers trivial or just how much Himmel has affected the way she sees and thinks now, the Frieren you meet at the start of the show is noticeably not the same Frieren you know by the end of the show.
@PrimaDonnaBoi4 ай бұрын
Frieren definitely has changed. Her demeanor has probably not changed too much. But her attitude and empathy towards others developed immensely. Maybe the premise of Frieren being "after the hero's journey" may disorient some viewers, Frieren does definitely change, as seen with the time she spent with Fern.
@angeluriel27254 ай бұрын
Its so funny to me when she realizes Fern is growing anxious over wasting her life on some random unimportant whim Frieren has and she's like "okay fine, I'll only keep looking for 2 more years and then we can continue" lol
@davids76463 ай бұрын
Especially clear in manga.
@bluegate46303 ай бұрын
i like stories that focus on the main character so frieren journeys whatever didnt appeal to me that much literally couldn't get through the first episode
@sanuthweerasinghe78253 ай бұрын
@@bluegate4630 man i also hate it when every character in a show is also just as compelling as the main character and feel like they also have their own unique story to tell in a world so full of life and intrigue. i hate it when characters except the main are all one dimensional tropes which only exist to further the main character’s development.
@zsand4 ай бұрын
Both shows feel very human to me and that's why I like them. The hate for Mushoku is from people who don't like seeing things that make them uncomfortable... which I 100% understand!!! Even I am like what the actual hell am I watching at times. There are just some great moments in the show like early s2 when he tried to kill himself in a split decision while depressed after realizing he just ruined things with sara by acting like an absolute fkn loser, that whole scene and arc was great and felt really human just seeing a whole relationship break like that in an instant.
@user-dm9fx9qn8c4 ай бұрын
in fact, Rudeus tried to kill himself not because of attitude, because. he never truly loved Sarah, but because he felt hated by both Sarah and the group with whom he spent a lot of time. That’s why he was amazed that in the end he was saved by the Soldier, who, in his opinion, on the contrary, hated him the most
@Ghorda92 ай бұрын
just casually throw a spoiler in there for how an entire story arc ends..
@user-zl1vf4me1p2 ай бұрын
@@Ghorda9 to be fair most people watching this video has watched mushoku already or absolutely HATES it with passion I'm on the third group after finishing the novels 4 times already and I gotta say all thing considered that spoiler is... acceptable
@Ghorda92 ай бұрын
@@user-zl1vf4me1p this video isn't spoilery itself and i don't see why any of the comments should be different
@user-zl1vf4me1p2 ай бұрын
@@Ghorda9 fair
@marvingajardo85873 ай бұрын
Frieren, it's unique in a way to show the character develepment, discovering her humanity is her journey, so is the viewers. Jobless is a cool anime about the shut-in who lives in another world, then builds his own new character influenced by his former life. To me it's Frieren, there is something about the way it is presented that the viewers will also wonder about their own existence. Makes you think more of what you need to value in life.
@playermasterfun73343 ай бұрын
Valid take man. Hope you have a good life.
@zero37624 ай бұрын
How can you give them oranges and then say they didn't win anything of value? Shocking indeed
@Cohow3 ай бұрын
You're right, oranges are peak
@ietdkvd19 күн бұрын
If someone were to make an orange monopoly, they would have the power to control all the oranges in the world. That's seems very significant to me.
@ietdkvd19 күн бұрын
And also because oranges are one of the largest fruit consumed per year so you could technically control an entire nation with oranges as their biggest exports now you have reached into the realm of politics then you starts ruling the world by expanding your oranges empire and release an invasive specie of locust made in a lab in north korea to eradicate and make all the other fruits extinct so now you have oranges as the only fruit in the world which increases its demand after that you rule over the world because everyone will get scurvy without vitamin C sources from fruits now it's a global health issue so you start making oranges a new global currency and thus making you rule the world
@Theopp0014 ай бұрын
Echidnut is definitely low on funds these days.3 videos in a month? Insane !
@DaChickin-ic7mp4 ай бұрын
@chickenofskilledvariety ikr we eating good
@Theopp0014 ай бұрын
@@DaChickin-ic7mp I have a feeling he's gonna be p/humping a new video every episode of re zero s3.
@I_Eat_Fuh2 ай бұрын
11:10 this aged well…
@warrior32203 ай бұрын
It’s funny seeing people argue against Mushoku Tensei when they haven’t even watched it and go off of what they read online/wiki.
@playermasterfun73343 ай бұрын
I know… Its tiring trying to defend something so misunderstood
@Black_soulss2 ай бұрын
So true...
@noirekuroraigami22702 ай бұрын
@@playermasterfun7334 bro....as someone who has read it....there is a demographic who finds who story relatable. I am not part of the demographic, most regular people can't relate to the story. All my friends who do relate to the story, I can tell you are not regular people
@playermasterfun73342 ай бұрын
@@noirekuroraigami2270 That makes sense. Mushoku tensei have always fulfilled the "You can be a better person" lesson but for people who did it to themselves rather than getting caught by a terrible situation.
@playermasterfun73342 ай бұрын
@@noirekuroraigami2270 btw, funny pfp where you got it from?
@camilogallardo52624 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely clicking the ad link because i appreciate your content so much lol. Idk what it is, but whether your personality or humor or maybe editing style, it feels like your content is imbued with such a unique flavor that i can only describe as being you, so human and personal, like something AI could never replicate. And i just have to say i respect you and how you do things so much. i remember the first time i saw one of your videos in the car after i left the gym and that unique feeling you give off i noticed then and i haven't stopped noticing since. Love your work, keep going. You have something not many on this site have. Thank You.
@Echidnut4 ай бұрын
Holy shit bro thank you! Genuinely one of the best compliments I’ve ever received
@camilogallardo52624 ай бұрын
@@Echidnut Haha You're welcome man, just thought you should know, im sure many others feel the same way about you and that's why they watch. you're a king 👑 I hope you appreciate yourself as much as your audience does. Keep killing it bro.
@sulthan_m19383 ай бұрын
@@camilogallardo5262fax described what i’ve been wanting to say for years
@nahidbethehonoredone2 ай бұрын
Frieren has got that Lord of the Rings vibes with the generally wholesome Christian vibe (for the most part) and themes of hope, growth, journey, friendship, love, and time. It paints a picturesque and dreamy illustration of a fantasy world, the typical Classical Romanticism found in Sir Tolkien's works (and by extension, that of Sir Lewis and Narnia) as well. The world is beautiful and magical. The people, the towns and kingdoms. Light and hope prevailed in the end, good will always win. But struggle and growth and journey lies ahead, and in between. And with loss comes love, with memories of the past comes realization of the future. Mushoku Tensei has got that Game of Thrones vibe, a more realistic take on the medieval-esque world of swords and magic, presenting a message of redemption from a degenerate, miserable and aimless life, finding meaning in growth and genuine character development from the encounters and experiences Rudy faced along the way. It still tells a story of growth and journey, of friendship and love, of memories and realizations, of time, but of course it is never afraid and never shys away from Just like how Martin wrote Song of Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones) and his other works complete with the honest-to-history messed up stuff, including but not limited to incest, sex, lots of depraved sex, family kills family, nobility being dicks and fucked up people, etc. Basically the people of Rudeus' world. While Frieren is this majestic chaste elf mirroring the angel-mages of Illuvatar (Gandalf and Saruman), Elinalise is a completely flawed and absolutely depraved elf whore who probably has the same traits as basically anyone from GoT. And yet she was redeemed (?..more or less, I guess, poor Cliff but I guess people have their own preferences). People in MT are real, and they can be cruel and disgusting just like that, but people are still good in the end. A cruel and dark picture of reality is prominent at first, but in the end, beauty and goodness still prevails. There is still happiness and messages of redemption and growth to be seen, and in the end our MC wins. He grows, becomes a better person, and the peoples and situations he experience changes with him. The world is still magical.
@Gerac1011 күн бұрын
Look, Mushoku tensei has many more similarities with The Lord of the Rings than with Game of Thrones, at least as regards the construction of the world and the importance of the various characters and their stories, you mentioned Elinalise, to give the same example I can say that she has a story that is probably more complex and interesting than that of all of Frieren's characters combined, but this is true of almost all the characters that are introduced.
@danielferrieri74344 ай бұрын
One is about a very old elf The another is about a man who was resurrected into a man
@gaat_chris49604 ай бұрын
weird way to describe reincarnation lol
@Roeclean4 ай бұрын
you forgot how to spell baby
@Sukenus4 ай бұрын
@@gaat_chris4960 I don't think reincarnation is the fitting word either, despite everyone using it. You wouldn't get to keep your past life memories and personality after a reincarnation.
@RedRocket40004 ай бұрын
@@Sukenus Actually in the case of top Tibetan Holly figures they keep the memories or so it is claimed. And others claim past life memories as well. As the principle that some are reincarnated with memory over thousand years old it is a form of reincarnation (even if it is false it is part of the description) I'll go farther there is no such thing as reincarnation and science had proven it in studying how the brain develops. You are your personality and memories once they are gone you died even if there is a spiritual connection to the follow on person you will never enjoy it. But I did have to correct your impression of existing beliefs.
@Sukenus4 ай бұрын
@@RedRocket4000 Yeah, you're right. I forgot that some ppl claim/believe to remember their past lives (or fragments of them). But I agree with the science part.
@alexandermurgan4 ай бұрын
Even with the "Controversial" backstory of Rudeus, I still love both.
@magnumjade452 ай бұрын
Yeah cause you like minors deep inside
@InevitableTruth.2 ай бұрын
I've yet to find a hater that knows about consent.
@aquagamez14152 ай бұрын
@@InevitableTruth. Because having an underaged girl give consent is better?
@InevitableTruth.2 ай бұрын
@@aquagamez1415 Well, teenagers do that all the time. Can you deny that?
@bongky184 ай бұрын
It's literally 9.99 vs 9.98. Both are insanely good and I honestly couldn't pick one over the other.
@markjaeger26684 ай бұрын
Great video! That orange rant will stick in my head a long time! I especially liked how you said MT’s characters felt like people because that puts my own feelings into words so well.
@KittyFaerie14 ай бұрын
I feel like Frieren should get an extra point for storytelling, purely because of how perfectly the flashbacks are integrated into the episodes. They say what they need to, they don't disrupt the overall pacing, they are well-paced within the flashbacks themselves, and they give insights into past relationships (especially for Frieren herself).
@GoldenFlash04 ай бұрын
nah, world building in MT is also insanely good, there is a lot of history but that was not shown yet, only mentioned stuff like Laplace war. All that is going to be explained later and its going to blow your mind :)
@Sukenus4 ай бұрын
I disagree. The flashbacks themselves are good, but they usually disrupt the scene they come in. Sometimes I almost forgot what was happening before them.
@darkequinox_yt76134 ай бұрын
@@Sukenus You just have shit memory dawg no offense.
@FirstLast-uj9ud4 ай бұрын
I actually think the flashbacks are one of the weakest aspects of Frieren. They're impactful at first, but they're far too frequent and lack any sort of subtlety, so after a certain point it just feels like emotional manipulation. The whole format of >scenario >flashback to very similar scenario in Himmel's party >Frieren repeating verbatim what Himmel said to her in that scenario gets tiring really quickly.
@CC-of5xl4 ай бұрын
Yeah but then Mushoku Tensei should get an extra point for the turning point episodes. Having episodes with not only world changing events but events that change who's in the main cast, change the location and direction of the story. Not many stories can get you to love the characters and their stories and then basically drop them(for a time) and not have you missing what was dropped.
@king_of_badassness4 ай бұрын
Bro solved hours of debate by using oranges, bro has some intellect
@fritzfromsouth59353 ай бұрын
And i thought it was only to see some minor panties
@piratejayesh84223 ай бұрын
You have 100 likes I don't want to ruin it
@scottsimmons70764 ай бұрын
I like mushoku tensei more, but Frieren is also a masterpiece. The problem is i can't recommend mushoku tensei to friends... for obvious reasons. No issues there for Frieren
@KyonSOSBrigad34 ай бұрын
Depends to what friends, i recommended to my best friend and she loved it, other friend hated it, so yeah
@user-zl1vf4me1p4 ай бұрын
Better for yourself right?
@piratejayesh84223 ай бұрын
I recommended to my friends they really liked it They just watched and enjoyed it as a show Because they know it's fiction bruh
@oscarmartuasinaga40012 ай бұрын
you definitely can't recommend mushoku tensei to your feminist Friend
@Gerac1011 күн бұрын
Well, yes, Frieren is a shonen so it's practically for everyone (except maybe the very young), but in any case I wouldn't call it a "masterpiece" given the insufficient world building and the concepts that are interesting but not taken into consideration adequately, furthermore the system magic is non-existent, and being a story that is 95% about magicians it would be important.
@Sukenus4 ай бұрын
The weird thing is that most characters in Moshoku Tensei show more emotion than the ones in Frieren, but Frieren still makes the audience show more emotion.
@CC-of5xl4 ай бұрын
For now. As someone who's read ahead the thing that makes Mushoku Tensei special is time. They build up characters and make you care over time. Like he said in this video Paul is going to be a great example of this. He's the character that has made me realize how dumb it is that so many stories don't include parent characters. Anime is especially bad for this. Most main characters don't have parents only mentors.
@Sukenus4 ай бұрын
@@CC-of5xl That's the main difference of the two shows. MT is developing over time (especially on the character department), while Frieren is a story after her peak in life already happened. And regarding the parent thing, that can't be helped. Anime is dominated by the "shounen" genre, where the main target audience doesn't wanna hear about parents.
@Ghorda92 ай бұрын
@@Sukenus except you also get a lot of development in frieren, it's just really subtle, the frieren you see as the end of the series is notably more expressive than she was at the start
@karunamajee78684 ай бұрын
Looks like landlord increased echidnuts rent
@actionfirst4 ай бұрын
You've convinced me to switch from eating apples to oranges now, that was a good sell. You really should've taken that orange sponsorship
@heyim-jay4 ай бұрын
I think saying Frieren has no character development is a bit shortsighted. Her character has developed a ton mainly due to her awareness of her problems. Rudy is much more of an outward fix. He has problems that manifest for everyone that isn't himself, thus the change is more obvious. Frieren's changes to me are geared toward those who are a bit older in life, particularly mid-to-late 20's. That unwillingness to change your ways after being shut in for years and living the way you always have until something forces you into an alternate way of thinking. Her ability to trust others, be open to them, and showcasing her emotions through actual words and physical reactions are incredibly difficult things to change about herself, yet as time continues for her within the new group, she beings to express these things without much hassle and sometimes even preemptively like how she did with setting up Stark and Ferns date. Rudy never really developed outside of the teenage mindset when he was in the normal world, so his perception of person-hood is locked to that point. His growth shows more because he can now experience the world outside of being an awkward and shunned person in society. So for me it's like he's picking up where he left off/dissociated from society.
@rimuruciel_tempest2 ай бұрын
that's crazy + not reading allat
@dratini12472 ай бұрын
Happy for u / Sorry that happened
@Blu-ps5rq2 ай бұрын
^^^ "Hi, I just commented to let you know that I didnt read your comment" ^^^ bruh you guys are not only in an analysis video, you are also replying this rude ahh reply to a comment not specifically meant for you. Let me guess, you people used to copy homework and complain when you get low score?
@dratini12472 ай бұрын
@@Blu-ps5rq Im so sorry that happened! / Thats great!
@Blu-ps5rq2 ай бұрын
@@dratini1247 get a life
@RealBunnyWalker3 ай бұрын
One of the biggest differences between the two is Frieren is post-adventure while Mushoku is essentially all settup for the real climax of that world, as it is said that Laplace is the big bad and wont be resurrecting for 80 years which is beyond Rudy's life time. He doesn't even get to fight the "Demon lord" while Frieren already beaten her's. Beyond that, I will stand on my opinion that Mushoku has more relatable and human feeling characters and handles more day to day normal human emotional issues while Frieren handles fewer things in more impactful and thought provoking ways. Not to say there aren't certain things that Mushoku does better. I can acknowledge how well written and impactful the themes and situation in Frieren are (more so the manga), but the relatability of the themes and situations in Mushoku along with the grounded feeling you get from the best world building I've ever read just makes everything hit harder and more personally. From the get go the two series establish they'll be handling very different topics. The thing holding Mushoku back is Rudeus in the anime lacking an internal monologue showing his confliction with the bad things he says and does. They could've written a less disgusting character but that would've taken away something pivotal from his development and the story itself. The 'if even this scumbag can find redemption, become better, and find happiness in life (though it may be a second one) why can't you?" narrative wouldn't be nearly as compelling.
@RealBunnyWalker3 ай бұрын
I may be biased/unfair since I've finished Mushoku while Frieren is still releasing, but I don't think the world building is even remotely comparable.. the more I think about it the less sense it makes for it to be a tie, Mushoku wins that category easily. As you said, everything in Mushoku tensei is connected to eachother. It rewards you for remembering small details about the world in ways Frieren doesn't begin to compare to without contradicting itself. The depth, ties, flow of time, unchanging laws, fleshed out histories, overlapping plot threads, etc all done in a way to feel as natural as breathing is something that Frieren just hasn't matched up to, even in the latest major arcs in the manga. There's ofc always the point of Frieren's side quests being super deep but they're essentially all tied back to something about Friren's party excluding a few that are expressly meant to show that the world doess't revolve around them. However, needing to include things to intentionally make it feel as though the world doesnt revolve around the Hero party, to me, is not a good thing. Mushoku has compelling side quests and back stories of its own without needing to add those occasional outliers to make a point. I could go on but I'd end up talking myself in circles since I'm not used to talking about this kind of thing with others. In any case, I don't feel like Frieren's world building (amazing as it is in terms of vibes) matches up to Mushoku's deep and developing world. And no, I don't think Flamme's backstory chapters close the gap, similar things are handled much better often in Mushoku. Not to mention Rudy and his group basically are Flamme anyway. That just goes back to my initial point about them being Post vs. Pre "Demon Lord" stories. The 'pre' is forced to explain more, do more settup, etc that the 'post' can simply write off with a few words that may or may not be explained later.
@frostyblade88422 ай бұрын
@@RealBunnyWalker Excellent summary dude. Couldn't have said it better myself. MT is a truly special show
@kumasan95372 ай бұрын
He did fight a demon lord tgh, sure not someone as strong as laplace but still he did fight 2 demon lords in his life time, but laplace isn"t even the last boss, he was just a mini boss in the end
@_SloppyhamАй бұрын
@@kumasan9537wouldn’t that deserve a spoiler warning since the anime is only in its second season?
@kumasan953729 күн бұрын
@@_Sloppyham kind of forgot to put it mm
@caferulker11864 ай бұрын
I'm extremely biased about Frieren, so i will give you an orange because you made a video includes Frieren and then i will take it back because Frieren deserves more oranges.
@projectsanctuary79444 ай бұрын
Oranges also have flammable skin! the oil in the skin is very flammable, if you squeeze the orange skin near a lighter, u get sparkles from the tiny tiny particles of it
@Echidnut4 ай бұрын
So overpowered
@choco26894 ай бұрын
Always look forward to your videos. They're rare, but they're my favorites of all of youtube.
@Echidnut4 ай бұрын
Thank you bro! You deserve all the oranges
@kalvon4 ай бұрын
I just like Mushoku Tensei a lot more than i like Frieren. Reason being similar to how you feel about Echidna and Roxy. I remember one video where you said that if you've met Roxy first, your KZfaq profile would probably be her. That's how I felt about Mushoku Tensei.
@Fish-ub3wn4 ай бұрын
i think you underestimate the development of feelings by frieren. that's the whole point of the anime. she's sensitive, but distanced. mushoku has much stronger feelings developement, but it does not mean frieren's weak. some people admire fighting sexual dysfunction, some prefer dwelling into one's inner self.
@nguyendi924 ай бұрын
As a manga reader for Frieren , and a LN reader for MT. Frieren character's development is very few and spare. She just realized her love for Himmel and feeling for others people the entire story. Rudeus on the other hand, change so much even at the current Anime arc: from a pervert, to fighting his PTSD, to realized Eris is a person (ep 8), to realized people get killed when he messed up ( ep 11), to understand Paul, to love Eris, to heart broken, to try fixing his PP by assaulting the Beast girls, to fall in love with Sylphy and then be a husband....etc... The character development of Rudeus is insane , I haven't see any Fiction that actually do so many facets of a person's life like MT.
@Fish-ub3wn4 ай бұрын
@@nguyendi92 you missed my point completely. didn't bother to read the answer, since i watched the video. frieren has some character developement, not zero, that's my point.
@AdynW4 ай бұрын
@@Fish-ub3wn It don't really matter cuz MT wins either way 💀
@arulrana40484 ай бұрын
@@AdynW here take your browney points
@Fish-ub3wn4 ай бұрын
@@AdynW agreed.
@rustgrime98974 ай бұрын
Frieren's scenario is way more unique and interesting. It's a fresh take on the long lived elf trope, and one that doesn't dwell on the sadness of seeing your loved ones dying (that's Serie's plot contribution) but instead shows how to move forward in life by learning from those mistakes. In contrast, a weeb redemption arc is a staple for isekais.
@Timiboy4 ай бұрын
counter argument, mushoku was one of the first to do these stories(note i am not caliing it was the very first as i cant confirm this but it was definetly one of the first few), so dragging it down because others copied is a bit harsh imo
@S0RA...4 ай бұрын
Don't really want to undermine your opinion, but I think you're not giving mushoku that much credit just because it's a redemption story. Do note that I don't just refer to mushoku on anime but also on the books. So while you may think my opinion is invalid now, it may make sense later in the next arc of mushoku. Just as Frieren show how to move forward in life. Mushoku just hits differently. We see how rudeus in his past life is beyond redemption, given a chance to start again but with his trauma and personality, changing completely wasn't easy. Then life and God constantly shits on him. But still, with his flaws we journey with Rudeus and see how he matured since he was a child until he became a man ready to sacrifice everything just to protect what's important to him. While I like Frieren, for me it's not on the level that made me feel when I watched and read mushoku. While being fantasy, mushoku just feels so real. The characters, the story, just wait for the next two arcs of mushoku. That's when I think it's at its peak. The pure suffering and reality Rudeus had still makes an impression for me till this day.
@rustgrime98974 ай бұрын
@@Timiboy Fair point.
@hornymonk234 ай бұрын
Mushoku Tensei feels more real, but Frieren feels like a timeless and universal masterpiece.
@painpanyeager25644 ай бұрын
huge +1
@uprising15572 ай бұрын
Mushoku tensei wins low diff just because of the novel. It was so good it changed my life. If just the anime then mushoku still wins because of the better character design and development (and waifus) and because frieren is still only one season. However, it’s very close.
@Truck-kun114 ай бұрын
The biggest problem for me with Mushoku Tensei is that while the anime points out that Rudeus is a pervert and that this is something he has to correct, the story at no point condemns him for being an adult man with sexual attraction to children, and when he finally gets older the story just sweeps the whole situation under the rug. (Yes, I know that "It's just fiction" and I'm not offended by it or anything, it just makes me uncomfortable when I have to actively ignore this part of the story in order to enjoy it)
@Lipe3264 ай бұрын
Because he himself will have to find this strange, the world is not an artificial intelligence that will punish him randomly over time, he tries to change his attitudes and see that more than he really was he is disgusted but happy to change. It's actually kind of ironic since in the future Rudeus will see this type of thing with another person (no spoilers) and he will be disgusted by it too
@raec54264 ай бұрын
I do have to agree with how some of his perverted aspects are handled to be a negative part of it for me... We shift away from his negative behaviors, which is good, but narratively not always feel the weight of those negative aspects in the story itself prior.
@Lipe3264 ай бұрын
@@raec5426 Well it's not like it's something alarming, he's kind of already learned it if you see him get beaten up and then suffer from ED by Eris
@raec54264 ай бұрын
@@Lipe326 Rudy being a pervert early on was more treated like a gag is what I mean, even Eris beating him up is more of a comedic tone for that gimmick before. I didn't care for kidnapping beast girls episode in S2 pt 1 either after Rudy had some character development. He groped a girl to check his ED. But in narrative, the beast girls are just seen as getting the punishment they deserved, so nothing was seen as wrong by Rudy in the story. That was what made the beast girls respect him as their leader as a narrative reward. I liked him standing up to the girls in the school yard, but the other stuff after went too far imo. I still like MT and Rudy overall, but I still have some areas to critique for some of those aspects.
@Lipe3264 ай бұрын
@@raec5426 Well if it wasn't made as a comedy sometimes it would make things even worse at least he didn't go too far until she had consent and she become an adult.
@scycefahim17834 ай бұрын
Mushoku tensei is the greatest fantasy anime of all time for me. I've never gotten so damn hooked up on an anime. It's the first one that made me read the novel when s1 aired. Honestly, outrageously good
@Xx0ME0xX4 ай бұрын
100% agree. If it wasn't for MT season one making me want to read the novels, i probably never would have got into reading light novels, i was up to like volume 16 before season 2 even started airing, and now i'm up to volume 23. I just read one or two books and then don't touch them for months lol. I don't want the story to end too quickly, or to have to wait for the next ones to release, which are the redundancy volumes at this point.
@Sheamu54 ай бұрын
That segue to the ad was great, I didn't even skip it. I love both, but I think Frieren might edge Mushoku just because it's a show I have 0 reservations recommending to people face to face. Whereas I've barely talked about Mushoku irl.
@user-dm9fx9qn8c4 ай бұрын
It's true, unlike Freeren, which is aimed at a larger audience, Mushoku is hard to recommend. Despite its cult status and recognition, due to the controversial content, Mushoku Tensei was even afraid to be adapted into anime. Therefore, the anime was released only in 2021, when other issekai like Konosuba and Re zero received anime much earlier, despite the fact that in 2012 Mushoku was more popular than them.
@RedRocket40004 ай бұрын
@@user-dm9fx9qn8c Yes The very damaging to people and our culture denial that people have sexual thoughts because of religious belief that most don't even have is bad.
@RedRocket40004 ай бұрын
You just massively condemned Frieren as it continues to push the idea that normal people don't have frequent sexual thoughts and almost everyone has some very sexual thoughts that would be bad to act on. The power of the taboo instinct once set is massive and violating can cause emotional damage ask almost all LGBQT+ raised in conservative condemning of LGBQT+ household. This is also a very good example of how Taboo can be totally illogical and harmful. As authoritarian power is based on repression of sexual expression in part this a major reason authoritarians and those who want to oppress women the sexual nature of people and censoring nudity, sex and making women into sexual objects and making them cover there bodies is done. Women have the most power, Democracy has the most power when nudity no a taboo, when sex not a taboo even for children seeing it, when young attractive women wear little to nothing women have more power and the society is more free, where what people call porn is very legal and uncensored people are free and women have power and respect. As showing violence and not showing sexual things how cultures prepare the population to like war I say the popular saying of the Anti War movement during Vietnam. Make Love not War. And thus sexual thoughts and characters who like to have sex are needed in stories. And children who do have sexual thoughts but in a child like way like in Spy Family and Dragon maid are also needed as we have reached historical highs in young people killing themselves and being unhappy. So the two centuries or so experiment of extending childhood is a partial failure. Might not want them starting families as soon as the girls can have babies with 3/4 of children not living plus needing army for next war that was required not an option back then, but at least all children and juvenile adults need to know them having sexual thoughts and feelings is normal that they are not abnormal and evil which most kids deep down must think they are in modern life.
@mr.eliteaz23853 ай бұрын
@@RedRocket4000 bro your insane and you either gotta relax and deconstruct or seek help, not a fan of the alphabet community but they have no bearing on this conversation and this society is already hypersexual and doesn't need more than what it already is if you cant see that then I don't know what the to tell you.
@Dsna83Ай бұрын
Mushoku tensei season 1 has the best intros in fantasy anime history
@Pathetic-AliАй бұрын
No intro = Best intro (fr)
@Gerac1011 күн бұрын
@@Pathetic-Ali If you are talking about openings, absolutely yes, openings are a budget saver and a waste of time, they will also be beautiful to look at but it is much better to use that time so as not to be forced to cut out beautiful speeches/reasonings.
@what._._._Ай бұрын
That was one heck of an intro to the sponsor LOL Liked.
@bernieburton65204 ай бұрын
Hard disagree about the characters in Frieren. There's a ton of character development from all of the main characters. Especially Frieren. The difference is that none of the characters in Frieren that we follow were absolutely AWFUL and slowly becoming better people. They still grow and change through their interactions with others as they learn about themselves and others. Frieren becomes more able to care about the small transient moments in life and not just take them and the people around her for granted. Fren slowly becomes actually more mature instead of just trying to be mature. Stark slowly gains confidence in himself and begins to overcome his childhood trauma. Sein is only in the story for a short time but overcomes his apathy and self destructive nature. We see a lot of change over the years for Heiter. The new characters introduced in the mage exam we don't see a lot of growth for most of them. But we get the first glimpse of things to come in future arcs for certain ones. Frieren's characters and character writing is it's strongest element. A character doesn't have to make a complete 180 from being absolutely awful and unbearable to become a decent human being in order for there to be character development.
@Aquakabi4 ай бұрын
Feel like people need to learn about the difference between character development vs character growth
@dhjijejd69804 ай бұрын
Fern in the last episodes behaves much more like a child than in the beginning, ready to be offended by anything, while Stark, although he has changed a little, basically behaves almost the same. if anything progressed, it was the relationship between Stark and Fern
@noobatredstone30014 ай бұрын
@@Aquakabijust to check, is character development about getting to know the character and their motivations, while growth about the character changing/maturing?
@emirarfandani56553 ай бұрын
@@dhjijejd6980 if you watched it objectively you would notice fern and stark development.. yes fern still throws tantrum and stark still seems to be immature sometimes but that's normal, because that's what you would expect from a 18-19 y.o teenagers.. maturing but still somewhat childish.. like a sein said in episode 14 and 17
@dhjijejd69803 ай бұрын
@@emirarfandani5655 As I said, I actually have no complaints about the specific development of relationships. it just seems strange to me that from the very beginning Fern looks like a girl who had to grow up early and who for most of the episodes behaves like an adult and rational, with each new episode she becomes more and more like a child, I understand that they are 18-19 but this is already that age at which they are usually not offended by touching with the expectation that they will receive sweets.
@ashstolley4 ай бұрын
Comparing two god tier anime is wild
@DaChickin-ic7mp4 ай бұрын
You right we should compare mushoku tensei to Chillin in another world with level two super cheat powers
@ashstolley4 ай бұрын
@@DaChickin-ic7mp haha, that’s great.
@akifyyy4 ай бұрын
How is MT godtier?🥴
@ashstolley4 ай бұрын
@@akifyyy hey everyone has their own opinions… I just have faith that post ed arc the show will you know not have another ed arc haha
@akifyyy4 ай бұрын
@@ashstolley yeah... opinions
@uprising1557Ай бұрын
Bro the benefits of marrying an elf… she’s still gonna look her hottest when you’re an old man.
@Cash_ketchup3 ай бұрын
Finally someone said the absolute truth. oranges are better than apples, always.
@user-cu6bj4nf6o4 ай бұрын
Mushoku Tensei🤝Frieren Both singlehandedly reviving the reputation of isekai & fantasy anime,So I ain't gonna pretend that 2 goats can't coexist🗿
@PrimaDonnaBoi4 ай бұрын
Not Mushoku Tensei. The only reputation Mushoku Tensei gives towards Isekai and Anime is that sexually harrasing women as a "comedy trope" is still acceptable for anime.
@pralay_xox4 ай бұрын
@@PrimaDonnaBoi Thats not mushoku's fault, its people who cant differentiate fiction from reality and bring woke shit into anime.
@PrimaDonnaBoi4 ай бұрын
@@pralay_xox Sure. Being respectful to women is "woke" now.
@user-cu6bj4nf6o4 ай бұрын
@@PrimaDonnaBoi i get what you're saying and you're correct. But you are supposed to despise that kind of behaviour. Rudeus develops as a character and you should praise that development even if you hate the character. Its good storytelling. Its the same with avatar showing sexism. Even i hated him at the beginning but its his development made me root for him. The development of rudeus is what that makes him such a good character,not his personality
@Lipe3264 ай бұрын
@@PrimaDonnaBoi Oh later the business will be more respectful Rudeus will end up being the one dominated
@paulbishop2514 ай бұрын
I have to disagree about the award based on the food scenes. That bread shot from M-T didn't really impress me; something about how the crust tears seems unnatural to me. But, those giant hamburger steaks from Frieren got my stomach growling every time I saw them. In fact, I'm hungry right now just thinking about them. 🥲
@noobatredstone30014 ай бұрын
Yeah, the stickiness of the bread was pretty on point, but the first half of the animation feels like something being unwrapped more than torn
@ui80873 ай бұрын
I read ahead in the light novel so spoilers ahead: ======================================= Mushoku Tensei's characters feel more like growing people because of the cause and effect oriented story telling that its author went for. Events that happen, are going to happen, and are thwarted from happening all affect how the characters change in an extremely dynamic fashion. I think this style of story telling really defines just how richly designed each and every character feels and genuinely is and really goes to show the author's level of both story crafting and character writing. Each and every character likely has a massive 'web' of how they are, how they could be, and how they will be based off of events that may or may not happen in their futures and pasts. Think of it as if every character in the story had Subaru's Re: Zero web but instead of dying, they just have many many branching possibilities and developments depending on what exact events unfold in the story.
@Squilllo343 ай бұрын
People act like two legends cannot coexist
@d.e.a.d_uchiha3 ай бұрын
mushoku tensei is a great show , s2 17 was the best ep . I wonder why people hate that anime
@Gerac1011 күн бұрын
Probably because it addresses many issues that are unknown to young people (who ultimately make up the majority of the audience). Furthermore, the moralism and decontextualization are terrible and those who hate the series exploit every little thing.
@carlstevenson7094 ай бұрын
Mushoku for me, also Ruijerd and the Evil Dragon was FREAKING AWESOME
@Trizzer894 ай бұрын
Ruijerd was the only S tier character in Mushoku Tensei
@Brianworldwide_74 ай бұрын
@@Trizzer89nah
@vathilawijenayake9794 ай бұрын
@@Trizzer89Wait until season 3 bro
@ivandreuxzuev94734 ай бұрын
@@Trizzer89 Agreed. But Paul makes it to S tier further into the story.
@sunshine666534 ай бұрын
@@ivandreuxzuev9473’im not his son, but he is my father’
@reezwave4 ай бұрын
Bro was 4 steps ahead of us with the orange vs apple analogy lol. What is losing anyway if both are peak.
@clanpsclassic3 ай бұрын
The only thing I got out of this is that I got convinced that oranges are better than apples.
@garciasymbiote37994 ай бұрын
The funniest and most entertaining anime youtuber out there. Keep up the good work
@relife33484 ай бұрын
The only interesting character in Mushoku Tensei is Poul. You can't take any of the female characters including children seriously when they get sexualized in every episode and any man in the series can sexually harass them with no consequences.
@Echidnut4 ай бұрын
If you’re talking about Pax, the who sexually harassed Roxy, well he definitely gets some consequences later lol
@CC-of5xl4 ай бұрын
@@Echidnutwell also Rudy, but Eris gave him the cleanest combo I've ever seen 2 seconds later.
@user-zl1vf4me1p4 ай бұрын
Bro has not watched the anime
@npspace694 ай бұрын
at least frieren isn't a pedo
@darkcreeper43164 ай бұрын
*2 Figure Age Gap*
@user-zl1vf4me1p4 ай бұрын
lil bro got read like an open book by Echidnut
@kromysol21893 ай бұрын
bro doesn't know about the age gap between her and Himmel
@nemasisdemarini83393 ай бұрын
@@kromysol2189 Do y'all really not understand what pedo actually means?
@Kouki.lane1143 ай бұрын
@@kromysol2189at least they’re both consenting adults 😂
@Aceedyt2 ай бұрын
The introduction of mushoku tensei (first few episodes) are much more hype and meaningful than Frieren's. When I tried to begin Frieren's I had to forcefully sit there watching some boring parts without anything interesting going on for the whole time. Anyway that's just me
@Kaylsea2 ай бұрын
me too, but im gonna give it another try watching because my friends seem to like it very much
@Gerac1011 күн бұрын
For me, a big flaw of Frieren is the lack of rules, currently the magic works a bit as the author wants, and when it works like this the viewer cannot predict what will happen (and not in a good way), in second place there 'it is the introduction of interesting concepts on paper but which are then not exploited or are even contradicted during the work.
@user-lo5ct5sl5b2 ай бұрын
saying frieren is rhe same exact character as from 80 years ago you literally watched the show with your eyes closed and ears clogged, the whole point of the show is how she has changed, even the main goal of rwaching heaven is PROOF of her changing
@Draconic_Incenerator2 ай бұрын
Yep. Frieren might not "look" different but her personality has changed dramatically since her time in the Hero's party.
@earthcakeplays29052 ай бұрын
@@Draconic_Incenerator it has changed, but to say it has changed "dramatically" is INSANE, she just always has that same neutral face on and she still doesnt really show much emotion or care about anything or anyone
@Draconic_Incenerator2 ай бұрын
@@earthcakeplays2905 Then you havent read/watched the series.
@kwon91954 ай бұрын
echidnut is a modern day socrates 🙏
@Kratos_Sky4 ай бұрын
I can agree with everything except the world building because Mushoku tensei WB is a league above frieren with the amount of detail in every region and how they have their own language and when they interact with each other it feel real that something i couldn't see the author of frieren handle very well.
@user-zl1vf4me1p4 ай бұрын
Yeah, they went OVERBOARD with the language. I think they made 3 fantasy languages just for MT, Human God, Demon God and... Best God maybe? i don't remember
@snimon58243 ай бұрын
I somewhat agree that Mushoku Tensei has more detail in lore and world building, but skimming through it all it kinda just becomes extra flavour for what is essentially also standard fantasy underneath. The different races there are essentially just humans with horns or longer ears. Frieren while surface level and skimmed through most of it, it's take on its fantasy races is pretty exciting from the logical take on the elves emotions to the unique take on Demon as "evil races" being essentially apex predators with human level intelligence. I've started watching both at the same time, so the comparison is pretty fresh but I'm impressed by Frieren abit more.
@Kratos_Sky3 ай бұрын
@@snimon5824 I don't agree with you at all, especially in the part about the race I don't see how Frieren has a unique take on the demon being evil with human-level intelligence isn't that like every other fantasy out there. well let's go for the Mushoku Tensei part about races I will only talk about demons races we have the Migurd race they have a unique look with a 200 hundred life span and have Their special ability is to communicate with their kind via telepathy then we have the superd race they have pale skin, green hair, and red gem (third eye) on their forehead that allows them to detect living beings and the flow of mana and They are born with a forked tail, which hardens and falls off to become their trident spear as they grow up and lastly, we have The Immortal Demon Race are descendants of the First Demon God. Males have jet-black skin and six arms while females only have two arms. Their most prominent traits are their Demon Eyes and immortality that allows them to regenerate after their bodies are destroyed. I can go on about various races and their ways of life, aspirations, and distinct unique skills that pass down from generation to generation, etc., so I'm not sure how they merely resemble humans with horns and large ears.
@snimon58243 ай бұрын
@@Kratos_Sky You miss the part where I said "apex predator". Tho I didn't quite explain, so imagine a cat or tuatara lizard. Solitary predatory animals but imagine giving them human level of intelligence but still having its base instincts. In a nutshell, they are an entire race of amoral psychopaths that hunt humanoid races through aggressive mimicry. Mostly solitary but form loose gangs, only really got together and organised because of the Demon King. They're not really evil as predator animal hunting its prey wouldn't be considered evil. Your Mushoku Tensei race examples don't really show them having any different mindsets to humans, hence just humans with horns or humans with longer ears. (Tho the beast folk animal behaviours are somewhat interesting) It works for the subversion of "we're not so different/humans are the real demons", it's culturally different but human culture are already diverse. Not that there's anything wrong with this, but it's soo many fiction already done this already. Mushoku Tensei is really just Dragon Quest, Elder Scrolls or Warcraft but with more anime tropes with its cat girls and demon lolis. Mushoku Tensei's advantage is that it has more detail for its world thanks to its novel form and it's a finished story but that doesn't make it "league better than Frieren".
@mdtaj75633 ай бұрын
@@Kratos_Sky Read El dorado arc bro... frieren demons are very unique and fantastic in there own way. While I agree mushoku tensei wins the world building part RN but it's a complete storyline. While frieren is still ongoing and but so far it have shown us immense potential with great characters and world-building specially the latter half of manga is just so good in terms of writing. Let's wait until both series gets wrapped then we'll decide which one was superior. Both series have different strengths and weakness but both are great in ther
@Observer298302 ай бұрын
"Frieren is barely a person." Yeah, I'm not listening any further. Between clickbaity titles, 'I'm not trying to stir up drama', and this hot take, I don't think you have anything worth saying.
@Sareza.2 ай бұрын
Orange is literally PEAK
@grandusanus81204 ай бұрын
11:20 genuinely caught me off-guard, my boy ruijerd got done wrong 😭
@reuz92 ай бұрын
no one should compare these animes mushoku tensei is better overall i dont care what yall frieren stans gotta say yall have never watched a good anime
@UndeadMerchant2 ай бұрын
JJK pfp says enough. Funny how you talk about never watching a good anime as if season 2 of MT isn't mediocre at best.
@reuz92 ай бұрын
@@UndeadMerchant atleast its not an anime where i fall asleep in a minute in the first ep
@Dungnguyen-s2bАй бұрын
atleast frieren isnt a pedo
@PendoraBox3 ай бұрын
And thus, began my day 4 of asking other isekai mc to survive rezero
@Bizarre_adventure013 ай бұрын
You have my utmost respect for actually admitting the fact that Frieren doesn't have good characters. Other than most of the popularity biased youtubers who would've given the win to Frieren in default cause they fear their popularity might decrease otherwise. And about the soundtracks every one of them is generic fantasy soundtracks with no originality. The first opening was so irelevent with the anime that it made me mad sometimes. None of the openings or endings in frieren actually blends in with the anime itself. And for some reason (I can go into details if you want) I think the whole mage examination arc in Frieren was a total BS. It wasn't an examination of strength or skill rather it depended on luck which I find ridiculous and think every other shounen anime with examination arc did it better. Every one of em. And hence you are officially my most favorite anime KZfaqr and an absolute king.
@jnick44193 ай бұрын
Based
@shironasama04453 ай бұрын
I agree hard with your comment. Frieren has high production value, but none of the heart and soul that Mushoku does. It's wild so many people think its a masterpiece in spite of the fairly bland characters, and somehow forgettable soundtrack (even though Evan Call did Violet Evergarden).
@Bizarre_adventure013 ай бұрын
@@shironasama0445 Agreed. The high production value by studio Madhouse carried the whole anime literally. Nowadays just a bit of good animation is all it takes for people to rate something at least an 8. In my case I never consider animation to be any kind of determiner of a good show. Story, Narratives, Characters, World building, sometimes psychological aspects and character development are the main thing to look for when judging a show. And Frieren did nothing in those criteria which can be called out of the ordinary. It's way too blend and generic.
@agniecina3 ай бұрын
And imo MT had definitely a way better animation and fight scenes, way more dynamic. At least in the first season, the current one is much worse in this regard unfortunately.
@4getmenot1823 ай бұрын
Completely disagree on the exam arc. I think it was better than most exam arcs because it was to the point and didn't play out like other exam arcs. Also frieren characters while not mt level they get better and better especially if you read the manga.
@MrStealingYourWaifu4 ай бұрын
Hilarious video. The format was really fun. Your comments were not only consistently funny but made real points.
@NTDang4 ай бұрын
Rudy is supposed to be disgusted .. in the beginning..
@arulrana40484 ай бұрын
he will always be
@bonfist72774 ай бұрын
I keep hearing this, but it’s a lie, because he gets everything he wants and doesn’t really change, it just becomes more accepted when the kids he’s preying on grow up.
@ryusen54264 ай бұрын
@@bonfist7277 What kids he's preying on the fuck you talking about 🤨
@typeouetco16264 ай бұрын
that's factually untrue. Not only does his bad points, at least those worthy of disgust, never go away, but he's rewarded FOR them. Like, it's not even "how come he is a protagonist even though he has x flaw", the author actively reward him for being an absolute piece of shit and straight up pedophile
@Truck-kun114 ай бұрын
The problem is that the story expects us to ignore the big Elephant in the room: He's a grown man being sexually attracted to children! No character development or trauma justifies this
@moelester29374 ай бұрын
*[[ Pls read this took a while to write ]]* Another thing Mushoku Tensei did that was the amount of layers it had in setting the vibe and tone. Most anime ever do it very directly and not discretely at all. Not that that's a bad thing. But MT adds another layer to it by using the psychology of the watcher into it WHILE integrating it into Rudy's development. My favorite example of this is the Doldia village arc to the Orstead encounter. When Rudy gets captured, despite facing execution (not that they could if they tried but whatever), he's extremely light hearted about it. It feels like a game to him, and like a game it wrapped up neatly defeating the boss and saving the day. It made Rudy feel like he had plot armor, and HE himself felt like he had plot armor too. Then when he met Orstead, all that was ripped away in the most violent fashion. Ruijerd, who Rudy considered to be an invincible warrior screamed for them to run for their lives before getting destroyed himself. Rudy panicking as he saw his own chest cavity open up. Eris screaming and crying at the death of Rudy, the girl he promised to protect. Etc. It feels so desperately hopeless that it turns a knot in your stomach. And it's only able to do that to such an extent because throughout the show, it systematically gave you and Rudeus that security. A thing I noticed was way early on in the show, Rudeus having undergone little development treats his new life like a game. He thinks of it like a game. He makes references to his silent casting as "OP cheat skills" and shit like that. When he gets teleported, it feels to him like he's off on a side quest. Another reason it didn't even occur to him that other people got teleported. The Orstead encounter is the turning point that makes him realize "Holy fuck! This isn't a game, this is real. My actions have consequences." This is also the point at which he stops making comparisons to videogames. His new second life, the people he cares about, and situations that he can't wriggle out of. The gravity of these things becomes SO much more _real._ This only feels that way because they intentionally made it seem 'not real' to begin with. It's for this reason that I consider Mushoku Tensei the anime with the best writing of all time. They don't write for you and your eyes. *They write for your subconscious.* They make you feel things even you didn't know you were feeling until it's ripped away. Which sounds simple enough, but to imagine yourself as an oblivious spectator of the show so perfectly from a bird's eye view is just extraordinary.
@seajellymilk35433 ай бұрын
My only complaint about MT is that Rudy is a pervert. You can literally replace it with him being an alcoholic and nothing would change. Instead of panties it could have been really expensive and old wine. His arcs we see in the anime would be the same too, these being, carefree doesn’t change besides not doing it as much since he’s focused on magic - becomes less of an alcoholic because of how rare and expensive it is in the demon continent and the fact that he has to focus on his survival - his fall back arc where he losses almost everything and he falls back into bad habits aka alcoholism - and finally his recovery arc which cerments him as a new person overcoming is addiction but may still drink time to time. He could have made the doll when he was balck out drunk too. Him being and alcoholic is also more relatable than being a pervert and the intro to the anime would be more bearable if it was him black out drunk and not attending his parents funeral is much better than him not attending it because he was jacking off
@KB-rmn3 ай бұрын
talking about tp2, this episode, although nothing changed in terms of the adventure, truly is a turning point. the entire first season they strart with this rudeus' view on the world like a game and he slightly starts to face reality on kidnapping episode and when the rookie adventurer died (and some other less impactful moments). on kidnapping episode he thinks what will happen if he dies again, later he watches someone die (because of him he feels like) and then on tp2, he actually (almost) dies. if not on nanahoshi's whim he wouldve truely died. also as you said the point of how powerful the team looked only to be trashed like that, the foreshadowing and explanations by man-god, the little fight with eris and ruijerd at the beginning which many people tend to forget about when he acknowledges her, the crazy good music and lastly the subtle attention to details and unexplained stuff that revolved around this encounter like when the bull jumped of a cliff. this episode was just amazing
@ThatMockingMoose3 ай бұрын
Your jokes are always on point, i'm always happy when you upload.
@elcidgaming4 ай бұрын
Watching MT is not like watching an anime or an isekai trash Its basically like watching a social experiment that takes a lifetime which answers the question of what will happen to a NEET when he is transferred to an organic world with magic. I guess that is the word *ORGANIC its like the events and the people really do think on their own and develop as people and its kinda like "real life"😊
@nobrainnogame43204 ай бұрын
Realife women wouldn't treat you kindly after you kidnapped them and won't accept polygamy (even in a medieval society). Mushoku Tensei is plagued with problems in regard of how it frames sexuality and women (let alone pedophilia).
@elcidgaming4 ай бұрын
@@nobrainnogame4320 I know present day women who accept polygamy lol I also know of real life women who will always forgive you as long as they love you. Its culture specific. In Islam for example if you can provide for more than one wife you can keep more than one wife. Keep on mind Greyrats are noble and even if Paul was estranged he is still provided by his family with a well paying job. This indicates your lack of experiences with women or a tunnel vision perhaps of your own circumstances FOLLOW UP: i might have missed the "kidnap" part. Who was kidnapped in the story by her own husband to be? I am sorry I might have missed that. @Pedophillia - besides Rudy's innate flaw of being attracted to lolis, his actions after reincarnation are age appropriate so to speak. Even if he had a memory of everything which eventually even Eris knows this but doesn't care. And why would she? They are living in a world with weirder events than reincarnated guys popping out Maybe you lot are finding it weird understandable since they use adult Rudy as a monologue. Imagine if Rimiru was treated like that..it would also be weird. But all in all in this world he is 13 and Eris was older than her. Your image of other people is affected by your own physical body. When you were second grade you see third graders as "bigger" kids. But surprisingly when you become a fourth grader you suddenly see the fourth graders as kids even if two years ago you saw them as bigger people. Its perspective and that is important. As you can see he was so dumb he did not even notice sylph was a girl and actually saw her as a boy.,, I don't think that is something a pedo will experience. He loved *lolis this is more of "Anime" lolis. he isn't much familiar to real life lolis like a child Sylph which he even saw as a boy. A real pedo would have been so turned on by a kid sylphie. But why wasn't Rudeus? He touched Eris sure...but he saw her as a bigger girl since she is actually literally bigger and Older than he is lol keep in mind he is reincarnated so he is no longer 34.
@nobrainnogame43204 ай бұрын
@@elcidgaming "I also know of real life women who will always forgive you as long as they love you." But this is not the rule. And to be honest I hope these women one day realize that this kind of love is toxic. You can hear horror stories about serial killer's wives helping their husbands to commit crimes, this kind of relationship is not healthy at all. If you ask any girl in the street if she is fine with polygamy with the husband marrying multiples women, 99.999% of the case you'll get a sounding "No". "In Islam for example if you can provide for more than one wife you can keep more than one wife" Even in Muslim countries, polygamy isn't seen in favorable light nowdays (even a quick google search would have told you so). "This indicates your lack of experiences with women or a tunnel vision perhaps of your own circumstances" Keep your assumption for yourself and keep it cordial. Or should I judge you based on the fact that you like a show that sexualize children? "i might have missed the "kidnap" part. Who was kidnapped in the story by her own husband to be? I am sorry I might have missed that." S2 episode 7 "his actions after reincarnation are age appropriate so to speak." Not really he has the memories and persona of his former life, the only thing that changed his is apparent age. "Imagine if Rimiru was treated like that.." Tensura for all its fault, at least never showcase Rimuru lusting after a 7 yo girl. "Your image of other people is affected by your own physical body. When you were second grade you see third graders as "bigger" kids" No, Rudeus doesn't behave like a child: Paul himself said that from his point of view, Rudeus was so precocious that he believe he is a genius. Quite the opposite since he did't hesitate to use his child appearance to manipulate his mother. "A real pedo would have been so turned on by a kid sylphie. But why wasn't Rudeus?" S1 episode 4: He intend to groom Sylphy to become his ideal wife. It's typical pedophile predator behaviour. "He touched Eris sure...but he saw her as a bigger girl since she is actually literally bigger and Older than he is lol" "keep in mind he is reincarnated so he is no longer 34." S1 episode 4: Redeus admit himself that mentally he is a 40 yo scum. Don't even know you try to deny the canon. But even all that would have been fine... if it was framed correctly and with the story addressing these problems. However the show never does so and neither does the Web/Light Novel. The author himself, said that Rudeus never fix this aspect of his character. So this lead to the question: what the point of all this child/women sexualization? Is it even relevant to the story? And what the meaning behind it?
@Lork664 ай бұрын
To be fair, and as a hardcore MT fan (with the amount of € i've spent on figures and the books), Frieren anime is better than MT. If you compare MT S1 and Frieren S1, they're very similar in quality but MT S2 sadly got slightly worse (especially the Counter Arrow arc). But if you compare the source materials as the LN for MT and the manga for Frieren, MT is way better. The sheer amount of things that are missing from the LN to understand the importance of certain situations, characters, character choices and reactions is simply enormous. How MT S2 treated Elinalise curse as only a little line of monologue from Rudeus is a good example. Frieren's anime doesn't miss things like that, as well as having a consistant quality throught all those 28 eps. But you're really annoying Echidnut, now I'd like a Fantasy Quartet of sorts with a meeting between Roxy-sama and Frieren, because of you... Which will certainly never happens.
@ITSNATEE2 ай бұрын
TP4 is gonna make this man cry
@jetmundo4 ай бұрын
I don't hate anything but frieren is a raisen when mushoku tensen is a grape. Frieren for the bots
@u-mos88204 ай бұрын
huh, I don't usually disagree but Frieren has better characters. Frieren's characters might not be the best thing about the show as you said, and MT's characters are interesting. However MT seems to lean heavier on tropes and things that are specifically anime situation that take away from the characters realistic appeal. Frieren's world feels more realistic and less like a video game, and that give credence to the characters cause they deal with more realistic problems. I love both, but Frieren takes the cake hands down for me. MT has road bumps that you find out are roller coaster swoops but the initial impact is still like a road bump. Frieren just has a slow-ish start, prbly not slower than MT's.
@sentryion31063 ай бұрын
I find it weird that people think mt characters are more realistic. From how I see it mt has better characters in an anime context but it’s Frieren character that feel more human.
@u-mos88203 ай бұрын
I'll get even more specific than that cause I Love what you said and feel the same way. MT characters act realistic in their own unique way, that mirrors reality, but feels very anime. Frieren is more like how people would act in a fantasy world if no one was an iskeki'd character.
@wazukyan76964 ай бұрын
Mushoku Tensei has more depth .
@dronicx40023 ай бұрын
I watched Frieren in a binge after it'd concluded its run and it is truly a stunning anime. A lot of it comes from how... simple it is at its core. Let's take the characters and plot overall. All the characters in Frieren are named after their main trait with an appropriate german word for it. Frieren has a 'Freezing' personality. Fern has a 'distant' one. Start is Strong. Himmel is dead in 'Heaven', though I guess in life it could mean something like he was sent by the heavens as hero or had is head in the clouds, whatever, idk, what matters is that he's in the location they call Heaven, which is also his name's literal translation. The plot is ever so steadily leading us to the goal, the end in the land "Ende" (literally just 'End'). The only thing that makes Frieren unique is the angle it tackles the heroes journey from (as in retracing the steps of the journey), though I guess Isekai Ojisan does that too in a way... plus Frieren herself. It's rare to find such a good take on what it means to be what is effectively a timeless mage. And Mushoku Tensei on the other hand... Yeah, the characters make it. It's such a compelling story about characters and their development. From the opening sequence of season 2 part 2 I am so bracing myself for what totally left me wrecked when reading the LNs.I know Echidnut knows exactly what I mean, and I think people that have read the LNs will also know.... But something I've genuinely really liked about Mushoku Tensei is... everything feels so alive, even in the animation. There's effort put into even the background characters, like for the most part I would never call any of the scenes stiff ever. Though I will say I am not massively fond of season 2's openings being a repeatable sequence now. HOWEVER, the charm in the immersive openings in season 1 came from the fact that things were always happening in a way that you could... PROGRESS the worldbuilding via visual story telling alone. especially because there was a LOT of travel. Now that we're basically kept in one location though, I can excuse this choice because like... you can only really set the same scene so many times, I guess, especially since it's not like there's years passing between episodes, like in the first few where we stayed in Buena Village.
@naomithornhill20793 ай бұрын
Not to mention, both main characters go through the same arc of living out second chances
@potatoadw93874 ай бұрын
I haven't seen Frieren yet but what i have seen from it it definitely rivals Mushoku in the anime department. Though idk if it can rival my love for the Mushoklu series as a whole.
@u-mos88204 ай бұрын
Hard to say, you should give it a shot though. It's got a slow start but the world they weave hits even harder than MT by my account.
@potatoadw93874 ай бұрын
@@u-mos8820 Yeah I probably will at some point. The start just seems daunting because it gets so emotional so quickly qnd the themes it covers.
@AdynW4 ай бұрын
@@potatoadw9387idk if it's just me but Frieren isn't that sad, I mean it's sad enough to make me feel a bit down but never teary eyed
@moteroargentino79443 ай бұрын
World building and grounded human problems, point to MT. Family friendly, deep philosophical questions and a slowly paced adventure, point to SnF. Animation, music and design, point to both.
@mdtaj75633 ай бұрын
@@potatoadw9387 I've read the source material for both series and I think for now it's a tie. I think mushoku tensei RN is a bit superior due it being way longer than frieren. But frieren also have immense potential and both series gives such a pure fantasy vibe. Also best parts of frieren isn't even animated yet much like mushoku tensei. It's going be a interesting rivalry for the next few years
@superioropinion71164 ай бұрын
Now I understand why some people hated MT while with Frieren they only had positive things to say. To my mind,both of these shows where great and very similar to each other but the main difference was that some people don't like to see flaws within the characters,very akin to how you can see who's real and who's not by dropping the act just a little bit
@pfunkdanw4 ай бұрын
These are both 10 out of 10 shows for me. But I'm not mad at the results of your comparison. I think I might like Mushoku Tensei ever so slightly more than Frieren as well. Also, you convinced me on the oranges vs apples thing as well. Lol.
@TrueMechTech4 ай бұрын
Orsted best waifu
@Angelp994 ай бұрын
Mushoku Tensei and Frieren are easily my #1 & #2 favorite anime of all time. Love both of them equally and to me there's no comparing them, there's many things that they do that just makes them PEAK!
@agamer1202 ай бұрын
Should have waited for the best fight scene. Ep 22 of Mushoku is a masterpiece
@Kaylsea2 ай бұрын
agreed, rip daddy though
@YellowboyRickLee4 ай бұрын
I like MT better cuz it’s more ecchi and humorous, more in line with the anime I’m used to watching, but Frieren is amazing in its own right, it feels like a combination of To Your Eternity and Mushoku Tensei without the ecchi.
@Hungry_Senko4 ай бұрын
Let's fucking goo! Mushoku Tensei on top! But to be real, both of the shows are really awesome and I honestly don't know which one I would give more oranges to. So I am glad someone did it for me :D Also I am glad to see another person who has read further into the story of MT. I don't have anything against the anime onlies, but it's refreshing to see someone who has more complete image of the story and and characters to be making videos about it
@bigbachi67894 ай бұрын
Nah jobless is better to me but both are soooo good
@johnyeightball29483 ай бұрын
i love both rezero and mushoku tensei so much, they both feel very real to me in regards to character development and overall storytelling in regards to the psychological aspect. i just started watching this channel but ur takes on both are very similar to mine and im glad i found u
@jesus70872 ай бұрын
I feel like story wise mushoku tensei I’m biased since they have a massive details for the world having all the characters having their own depth
@NfNcTHUMPER3 ай бұрын
Mushoku tensei slams the elf one let’s be real
@eddieboston65403 ай бұрын
No by his own video frieren wins by a lot
@kvson4 ай бұрын
You already got my with the Orange quote... Take your fk like
@Scry9992 ай бұрын
Im so glad someone else has caught on to the similarities of these two anime and not just their animation styles. Both are amazing and among some of my favorite fantasy anime.
@Jadriandnd3 ай бұрын
When characters feel like people, you know its gonna be a good ride.
@Omnicloudx134 ай бұрын
They are both fantastic but I'd give the slight edge to Mushoku Tensei personally, it's more exciting and thrilling to watch.