Echo and Narcissus relationship (full story)

Echo and Narcissus relationship (full story) - Hades 2

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The full story of Echo and Narcissus relationship. Echo had a crush on Narcissus, but it seems like it is an unrequited love. Previously I uploaded the shorter version because I thought I exhausted all the dialogue as nothing new was appearing in about 3-4 runs, but then the game suddenly unlocked their further story. #hadesii #hades2 #supergiantgames

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@laureloneiros1500 24 күн бұрын

I know his sprite is a placeholder, but I kinda dig the idea that he covers himself because his beauty is like a dangerous radiation that drives anyone who sees it mad

@Whenpigfly666 24 күн бұрын

Except Melinoë, apparently. Protagonist vibes ?

@ghostD0C 24 күн бұрын

@@Whenpigfly666Well, if he's covered she can't see him. But either way, maybe it doesn't work on gods? ...Except Zeus probably. He's always horny.

@valiensr1037 23 күн бұрын

@@Whenpigfly666Unless the final art also covers his face, in which case, even Melinoe doesn’t see him and can’t tell if she’d be effected

@camiloquinayasvarela7337 21 күн бұрын

This suits him so well. I kinda want this to be his final design.

@lancesmith8298 20 күн бұрын

@@camiloquinayasvarela7337It’d be equal parts funny and tragic if it turns out that Narcissus is just like anybody else. Somebody of unspeakable unspoken charisma, but otherwise just another shade in the shadows. The reflection is him, but not for a lack of people like him.

@Yidenia 27 күн бұрын

They made Narcissus such a sympathetic character, I feel like a lot of women would relate to him. He's constantly forced to be cognizant of how his behavior might convey the wrong message and has to defend his right to not love others just because they love him, and merely for his looks at that (though admittedly he doesn't have much else to him). He's absolutely right that his suitors break their own hearts, but they blame him for this anyway, and he's shamed for loving himself. It's hilarious that he talks like Napoleon Dynamite and we just see this placeholder art but his circumstances actually feel so real despite how outlandish it is.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213 27 күн бұрын

Yeah. And honestly, probably a good thing he never went after the ones who wanted to marry him. This may sound heartless, but I’m willing to bet it would become a pretty toxic relationship, genuine love or not. And honestly, wouldn’t be shocked if they kept the placeholder: might just help show off how in love with himself he is if he thinks no one deserves to love him. Just my thoughts though.

@Yidenia 26 күн бұрын

@@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213 It would be interesting also if they use the same idea as the placeholder art, where you can't really see his face, it's suggested but not revealed. I do think they're going to replace it though, it says "Beautiful flower" in his dialogue frame and I can't help but feel that his picture should include some daffodil or something as a homage to the original myth, but maybe with his face turned away or hidden because he's so sick of people harassing him as soon as they see him. It would really sell the idea that his beauty is for him, not for anyone else.

@neworldfool9625 26 күн бұрын

Ngl his level of self awareness is enviable. He cares about others but doesn’t “love” them, making him a completely platonic while blunt and honest font of self-love advice and reflection.

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213 26 күн бұрын

@@Yidenia or now that I think about it: could also be a way of getting suitors to back off. If they cannot see his face, then they don’t fall in love.

@SATequila 25 күн бұрын

He sounds more like Nic Cage, IMO

@mondenkindqueen 26 күн бұрын

Narcissus was cursed by Nemesis for spurning a male suitor by not only telling him to get lost, but also handing him a sword and telling to…use it on himself. Which he did. So if he loved himself that much, Nemesis made sure that was all he would ever love.

@Zelapher 26 күн бұрын

Is that the true story, cause in the video its indicated that echo was the one who got Nemesis to go after him.

@BriarMB13 26 күн бұрын

@@Zelapherthe game frequently takes from several sources, I am most familiar with the story op is sharing here but wouldn't doubt there is a version where Echo is the reason. Be interesting to see how this plays out when the full game is out

@kaelalist9656 25 күн бұрын

I'd never actually heard this version, the way I heard it, Echo was the one who had him cursed, and it was Aphrodite who cursed him. Always interesting and cool to learn about different versions of myths!

@decidueyezealot8611 22 күн бұрын

Mine was echo but nemesis did it@@kaelalist9656

@tristanomeara2649 20 күн бұрын

@@Zelapher That is the other story about Narcissus, but the one where he gets cursed by Nemesis was the one involving Echo.

@lordknightalex 24 күн бұрын

seeing the title i was so afraid theyd just force it to become a romantic relationship, im relieved it isnt so. being a bit of a selfish prick doesn't remove someone's right to reject unwanted advances

@D3wd20p 17 күн бұрын

I mean Narcissus here seems...like he's doing his own thing. Not hurting anyone - they're hurting themselves, so he says. You could weigh that against the old myths, but Hades 1 and 2 have both smudged those when they felt appropriate. As he stands, Narcissus doesn't feel ignoble, you know?

@devaughnjohnson 27 күн бұрын

While he is vain that in itself is his punishment. He can't love others or be truly loved in return

@eyelessbun5785 25 күн бұрын

So Nemesis is a dumbass and doesn't know what aromanticy is lmao

@Readasaur 13 күн бұрын

Echo's voice actor had a rough challenge, but she really did a great job conveying a lot of emotions through softer repetitions

@FangzV 11 күн бұрын

And adjusting her voice to reflect the character she's echoing!

@yourmememaam8978 15 күн бұрын

It makes sense that he only loves himself though. Everyone in his life likely only favoured him for his looks, and while I don’t doubt it gave him a massive ego, it must’ve gotten very lonely, knowing no one loved you for being you. So it makes sense why he prioritises himself, and why he’s so dismissive of his wooers. He knows why they want him, so he shuts them out and focuses on himself, the only person he can rely on to be truthful.

@coolestbean24 14 күн бұрын

I feel bad for him. Dude just loves himself and can't give out any romantic or sexual love that his suitors want out of him. He clearly appreciates friendship but seems afraid that someone's going to fall in love with him and break their own heart over him. A surprisingly sympathetic interpretation of Narcissus. I wanna be his friend :(

@kjarakravik4837 5 күн бұрын

Same. And just saying, I have a lot of аѕехuаl friends who get a lot of of сrар from other people for just wanting to be single

@dreamingleviathan3354 26 күн бұрын

Narcissus seems like the definition of a Parasocial relationship with a Asexual. People who he doesn't even know break their own hearts over him without him ever even doing anything wrong. He is allowed to love or like whoever he wants, and he doesn't like or love anyone except himself and that's ultimately ok. I dont even think the dude IS attracted to anyone, he seems complete asexual at best. And to a extent it seems like he is aware that his beauty is a weapon that he doesn't want to use so he constantly checks himself and tells people how much he doesn't like them. Ironically this ends up causing most of his problems since people take it the wrong way instead of him trying to softly let people know he isn't interested. At least in this story Narcissus isn't malicious to anyone, he's just existing and working on himself and people hated not having his attention. This really seems like a story where Nemesis really screwed up, if she wanted to truly even things, she would have taken Vengeance on the suitors for harassing Narcissus. Instead her vengeance is petty. Just a reminder that Vengeance and Justice aren't the same thing, and she is a hypocrite.

@MaryIsHereNow 24 күн бұрын

I think aromantic or aromantic asexual might be more accurate, but this is absolutely spot on otherwise.

@MrsKatreeni 24 күн бұрын

@@MaryIsHereNow true true

@marcheen6496 24 күн бұрын

@MaryIsHereNow 24 күн бұрын

@@marcheen6496 *EXTREMELY LOUD BUZZER* incorrect! try again!

@marcheen6496 24 күн бұрын

@@MaryIsHereNow no one talked to you Mary

@allisondempsey982 27 күн бұрын

I really wish we could help Echo out by removing her curse, but in order to do that, we would have to ask Hera to do that since she was the one who placed the curse on her. Unfortunately that would be even harder to do than to get Athena to remove the curse you put on Arachnia. All in all Narcissus served his fate, I just wish we could spare Echo her fate.

@phanths 27 күн бұрын

i mean melinoe is trying to help olympus in this game isnt she? we could still help her in the next patch

@joemomma2189 27 күн бұрын

It would not be the first curse that we've broken- Sisyphus's bindings were broken, as was our dear bard and Eurydice's, not to mention Achillies. Melinoe has just as much, if not more, authority.

@musfirah9341 27 күн бұрын

@@joemomma2189I'm not sure, considering Hades been punishing them for years, altering the contract of Sisyphus and Eurydice doesn't seem bother him much. However,the Olympus have bigger ego than Hades are, I don't think it be easy to ask them to remove it, especially those mortals they had grudge with (Athena envy of Aranche weaving skill, Hera annoyance of Echo gossiping all secrets)

@joemomma2189 27 күн бұрын

@@musfirah9341 Maybe, but- the Olympian's officially have no say. As it is said- All in the Realm of Hades are of his dominion. His Authority in the Land of the Dead is absolute. So while it may prick their egos, ultimately their authority over the curses of those souls ended when they inevitably perished. At least, that is my understanding of it, I could be wrong.

@absoul112 22 күн бұрын

It is so funny seeing Narcissus act like.... the thing that was named after him, and people agree with his narcissism.

@StarPlatinum3000 6 күн бұрын

He doesn't act like the thing that was named after him, though. Or maybe the thing that was named after him took on other meanings and criteria. He loves only himself, but he doesn't try to take advantage of everyone else to benefit himself (at least here in Hades II). He just wants to be left alone to enjoy himself. That's honestly the best-case scenario of a real-world narcissist.

@absoul112 3 күн бұрын

@@StarPlatinum3000 okay, I looked it up, and that’s my mistake. I assumed that the only part that mattered was the self admiration, but there are other symptoms that he doesn’t have.

@WheatDos 22 күн бұрын

Narcissus sounds like Keanu playing Ted doing a Nic Cage impression.

@ixnine5116 26 күн бұрын

The way I know, if they give narcissus character art, many people attracted to men are gonna fiend over him like astarion in bg3

@Coldchary2468 5 күн бұрын

Honestly sad when you think about it. But hey people break their own hearts ay?

@jam122o 12 күн бұрын

wow laurel is such a nice friend to help Echo and Narcissus like that

@Aleph-Noll 27 күн бұрын

Narcissus is nic cage, i will not take criticism

@corrinflakes9659 27 күн бұрын

I will criticize you for missing saying Narcissus Cage.

@Aleph-Noll 27 күн бұрын

@@corrinflakes9659 FUCK thats good

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213 27 күн бұрын

@@corrinflakes9659that is officially his new name in my head!

@Mark-dy4yb 22 күн бұрын

man i hope the final sprite for narcissus is just straight up nic cage

@renewalacumen1770 27 күн бұрын

5:19 That made me snort. 10:40 The little mockery of the jock tone!

@aisouno 24 күн бұрын

I believe Narsissus got curse bc one suitor said they gonna kill themselve for him and he fed up with they so they said then do it and they did or something about his suitor kill themselve bc he reject them

@noel2641 23 күн бұрын

he got cursed because after a suitor who knew him for a while confessed to him, he found it so pathetic he threw a knife at him and told the guy to kill himself, which he did. he did stuff like this regularly to his suitors and was super spiteful with them, this led to nemesis getting cursed.

@nothydde 24 күн бұрын

he's absolutely doing a nick cage impression

@elizabethalderman8749 27 күн бұрын

Narcissus deserved his fate but it’s sad to see Echo still devastated.

@firxanza5172 27 күн бұрын

well, Narcissus used to be a huntsman till he got too vain and incurred the wrath of Nemesis, who cursed him to love himself only (origin of narcissism) from that moment on, Narcissus got upset when he couldn't make kissy faces at himself all day and gained an unhealthy obsession for reflective surfaces, he starved himself to death due to doing nothing but watching his reflections Echo was a tattle tale and she got cursed to repeat only what she heard last time, which made it difficult for her to communicate with others Echo was one of Narcissus's many fan girls (though she might be the only one that liked him for more than his looks), but Narcissus was cursed to only love himself, so he would never be able to return her feelings

@soulslvr9562 27 күн бұрын

Why do i have a feeling Echo didnt get her curse cured at all because Melionë thought herself that she didnt need her curse lifted.

@opalishmoth8591 27 күн бұрын

Hera is the one who placed it, so she is the only one who can lift it. Which uh…… yea asking her to lift will 100% cause her to put another even worse curse on the poor nymph. In the mythology, Zeus used her to distract Hera while he did… his crimes. Or while the lover escaped from Mount Olympus, lots of regional variations. In fairness to Echo, she didn’t necessarily know why the king of the gods asked her to gossip / talk endlessly at Hera. But in response to her role as an unwittingly accomplice to his infidelity (since Hera is a victim blamer) Hera cursed Echo to only be able to repeat back the words others just said. Then Echo fell in love in Narcissus, and when she got rejected, went up into mountain / canyon cave and waited away till only her voice remained and became part of the mountains. Basically her story is the Ancient Greek explanation for why echos happen. TL;DR is Mel can’t lift it, or convince Hera to lift it. But there is a work around- the curse is on her voice, so she could write out her thoughts to share them.

@soulslvr9562 27 күн бұрын

@opalishmoth8591 yea but in this version it's given the impression that nemesis did it not Hera.

@koshilowell9531 27 күн бұрын

No Nemesis put the curse on Narcissius. She mentioned “divine retribution with no string attached” so that implied she did nothing to Echo

@lemonadeplayback1985 14 күн бұрын

I wish Melinoe was able to uncurse Echo, I think she doesn't deserve still being cursed after all those years

@FangzV 11 күн бұрын

There's a lot of brilliant work going on here, but aside from all that I can't believe I've never before seen 'Narcissus tells his reflection 'sorry man one sec this'll only take a minute' when someone walks up him" because it is very funny.

@potatoboy6094 10 күн бұрын

"we are each cursed with our experiences. I am nothing without mine. thank you for reflecting my thoughts and sharing your feelings echo" yes very true, this whole story is very sad, but i guess some people dont know how to love themselves and some people dont know how to love anybody except themselves

@crazygamer_1082 18 күн бұрын

…Didn’t Narcissius literally just die because he looked too long at his reflection? He’s hardly cursed except for the fact he does to f-ing much.

@yowaikemen 15 күн бұрын

He sounds like Johnny Bravo and that's the best thing ever.

@Zephirite. 5 күн бұрын

Melinoë: "Although, there is one that repeats whatever I say to her..." Narcissus: "Repeats whatever you say to her?!" Hah. Clever.

@DarkFalcos 24 күн бұрын

Everybody's mentioning Nick Cage, but to me Narcissus voice is way too similar to The King in Fallout NV.

@HanamoriKuna 23 күн бұрын

Narcissus sounds like Nic Cage.

@goofyd3rp369 22 күн бұрын

thank god I'm not the only person to think this.

@consume_vegetables 21 күн бұрын

He sounded a bit like a cross between Keanu reeves and Nicholas Cage

@briar5 2 күн бұрын

8:21 LOVE this detail of echos tone changing depending on who she’s repeating ✨

@ThelordHayden34 27 күн бұрын

Is narcissus still using the placeholder design or was his design used as the placeholder.

@emilis4323 27 күн бұрын

his design isnt finnished and using a recolour of the placeholder

@Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney 27 күн бұрын

@@emilis4323 Be funny if they just kept it like that. Most handsome man and we can't even see him.

@caretakercat7176 26 күн бұрын

@@Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney"this face is meant to be enjoyed by myself.." But imagine if beneath that robe is just one large petal of flower

@BelBelle468 24 күн бұрын

@@Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney he could be looking at himself but trying to make sure nobody else sees him so that they don’t fall in love w/ him

@37Jhian 17 күн бұрын

@@Shinmegamitenseistrangejourney kinda makes sense if he insist on doing it in the final version. Although I doubt he'll do it for long considering how much he loves himself

@She7an 27 күн бұрын

He sounds like gojo

@vanitas6620 26 күн бұрын

He sounds so much like Nicolas Cage to me

@govnorelven4036 20 күн бұрын

Nicolas cage does oddly suit him funny enough

@UncleFrenz 21 күн бұрын

why does he sound like he's doing an elvis impression? lmao

@indra_vrtrahan 13 күн бұрын

Wait wait wait ...Echo, put Narcissus, in Nemesis' List Of things "To Do" . . . >.>

@afluffymoth 27 күн бұрын

i can fix them

@edwardtanujaya9786 27 күн бұрын

I can ship them

@DylanJo123 27 күн бұрын

Fixing greek nic cage? brave

@theblaze5530 13 күн бұрын

Say hi to Echo for me when you end up in the fields of Mourning!

@DormantGolem 23 күн бұрын

Narcissus giving off true Nick Cage vibes

@christinamcqueen6182 22 күн бұрын

He sounds like Ben from across the spiderverse 💀

@rickireymarcano2904 25 күн бұрын

From the OSP video, Those both happened along with unamed others.

@mcPeekBetweentheReeds 11 күн бұрын

Narcissus sounds like nicholas cage lol

@ghostvoice7453 21 күн бұрын

Does someone know the name of the song at the begining of the vidéo ? I can't find it anywhere

@Zephirite. 5 күн бұрын

Narcissus, the man known for his self-obsession and vanity, is the only character with an American accent. Make of that what you will.

@MrBorbo 4 күн бұрын

Nemesis?

@MrBorbo 4 күн бұрын

Moros, eris arachne

@obadijahparks 13 күн бұрын

2:58 Nickolas Cage?....

@finalstorm9634 18 күн бұрын

IS THAT NICK CAGE ?! Uf not the V.A. is REALLY channelingu alot of Cageines rights there.

@mycomnithegreat434 11 күн бұрын

Quick question: why nic cage specifically for Narcissus? For meme or that they sound similar?

@iwantddie 26 күн бұрын

3:00 hmmm.... I admit it

@chrisgeraghty9951 26 күн бұрын

so clever

@NamuIsIdle 26 күн бұрын

wait i know this!!! i read this in that one leo valdez percy jackson book!!!

@CamdenakaNeptunesdaughter1213 26 күн бұрын

Yeah. I read it too Thought it was entertaining how Leo dealt with him.

@Amir-rv2ku 14 күн бұрын

i had to say his name outloud then i realized why hes a narcissist he is narcissist

@kjarakravik4837 5 күн бұрын

Lol narcissistic personality disorder was named after the greek mith of Narcissus, and before modern psychology the term narcissist just meant someone who was self absorbed and in love with their own appearance. That's what a lot of older media usually means when they label someone a narcissist

@naomithornhill2079 25 күн бұрын

Why does everyone in this game have random accents?

@laureloneiros1500 24 күн бұрын

I know his sprite is a placeholder, but I kinda dig the idea that he covers himself because his beauty is like a dangerous radiation that drives anyone who sees it mad

@coolestbean24 14 күн бұрын

Same i hope they keep it