A New Way To Light Your Wood Burner

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EcofiresStoves

EcofiresStoves

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Here at ecofiresandstoves.co.uk it turns out that we have been lighting our stoves the wrong way according to the Scandinavians.
They happen to know a great deal about wood burning, in fact you could say - they are the real experts.
On a recent trip to Denmark, the company behind one of the most popular stoves the Heta Inspire 40, showed us how they light a fire in Scandinavia,
In this video Pete demonstrates 'Top Down Lighting' and how it can make the lighting of a stove much easier.
Many people experience problems lighting their stoves from scratch and also have to overcome many have problems getting them working after cold conditions.
This is the easy way..

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@philipatkinson7039
@philipatkinson7039 2 жыл бұрын
I had a lump in my throat watching this, not because of the stove but the staffy sat in front of the stove in the background because my old staffy used to do that in front of my old parkray fire years ago and she was the double of your dog. Thanks for the tip and give your dog a treat from me.
@callybarlow4576
@callybarlow4576 Жыл бұрын
I see the dog in the background has found the best place! I have lit my woodburner like this for ages!
@ruadhagainagaidheal9398
@ruadhagainagaidheal9398 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a house in the summer that has a modern multi fuel burner. The previous owner apologised for the fact that it smokes badly. The first time of lighting, I used your ‘Top down ‘ method. No smoke in the room at all and 9 fire started very quickly. Good as gold - many thanks.
@ianmackay6586
@ianmackay6586 2 жыл бұрын
I have always burned top down since moving to Austria six years ago. My fire lighter is on top of the kindling and it all burns top down, it’s counter intuitive, when I was in the UK was firlighter,kindling,logs. But it really works and the flue gets warmed very quickly! Clear video, good news the word is spreading!
@ateleskier7066
@ateleskier7066 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always impressed by someone who's willing to admit they have learned a better way of doing things. I live in northern Scotland, and it gets cold here. My smaller stove has a straight-up chimney and, in the frost, is basically a rod of cold heavy air; that's what sinks down and pushes the smoke into the room. The old-school method I use is a few sheets of _dry_ (60 seconds in the microwave) newspaper rolled up and poked through the baffle plate gap into the base of the chimney pipe. I light that and let the heat push the column of cold air out. I only need to do this when it's really chilly, -5C and below; the rest of the time it's fine. Top-down lighting really does work though, including for outdoor camping fires. Basically, the Scandinavians know all there is to know about burning wood so there's always more to learn from them. P.S. If you split your own wood and want a good maul, the Gransfors Bruks version is truly phenomenal. You'll never want to own anything else once you've had one of those. Happy burning - stay toasty!
@stevepatch1809
@stevepatch1809 Жыл бұрын
Just used this method this morning 10 degrees F and not one puff of smoke in the house
@nostep2262
@nostep2262 Жыл бұрын
Tried your Scandinavian new way the other night half way up/down the the Troodos Mountain range on the island of Cyprus where I’ve lived and worked for the last twenty two years, despite rumours to the contrary Cyprus does have a winter it’s short sharp and can be absolutely freezing. The stove an old British Army stove built in the 1930’s presumably in a Tank factory with all sorts of adjustable baffles and additional air intakes has never fired up so quickly or efficiently despite me installing a new stainless steel double skin flue and keeping the flue almost entirely inside the building when I rebuilt the old house, the old single skin galvanised flue that I took out had scorched the roof beams! Plenty of wood around but it’s mostly pine so together with a neighbour we buy a container load of dried Central European Oak each year which for the first time has burnt really well. My neighbours tried your new Scandinavian way and has had a very good result as well. Thanks Pete from us both. and Regards to Fleet, I knew it well a long time ago.
@aubreystyles2466
@aubreystyles2466 2 жыл бұрын
Tried this over the Christmas in our stove down the country and it worked really well. Usually when the stove hasn't been lit for a few weeks it takes a long time to get going and smokes out the room. Great tip - thanks
@dan46fish
@dan46fish 3 жыл бұрын
This method is awesome! I have been struggling with a new EPA rated stove for about a week and one fire start with this method and I am sold! Works great!
@motorbikemumblings
@motorbikemumblings 2 жыл бұрын
Christmas day today, first light for ages and the easiest and light ever, zero smoke and massive flames almost form the go. Brilliant thank you.
@petelock5266
@petelock5266 2 жыл бұрын
After read the instructions for our insert wood burner I've always set the fire this way. Never fails!
@frankcouper9377
@frankcouper9377 2 жыл бұрын
That's the method I was shown by my stove installer back in 2014. If its cold outside, scrunch up a ball of newspaper and light it. A quick burst of heat will shift any cold air in the flue. This should be the first thing you do before attempting to light kindling etc.
@stephenpennell9214
@stephenpennell9214 2 жыл бұрын
I have been using this method for the last 4 years. It really does work. A hot fire very quickly. Thank you for sharing!!
@jameskrug9938
@jameskrug9938 3 жыл бұрын
I use "top down" AND "bottom up" simultaneously to start my home-made wood burner. I ignite the top only, to allow the chimney to heat up and as the embers fall through the stack of kindling then the bottom ignites. This method gives me a completely smoke free fire very quickly, with the door closed. Of course the fire starter stack, I call it, is surrounded by large dry logs that will burn for at least 90 minutes or more before adding more fuel.
@davidradtke5166
@davidradtke5166 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a German stove builder. I'd lay the logs with the bark away of the fire, because the bark is the natural protection from fire for trees. As igniter I use only woodwool drenched in wax and small dry conifer wood pieces. Ignite the wool on the logs and then put the small wood pieces on the igniter. Full airflow and ajar stove door until it burns well.
@trickystank
@trickystank 2 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy. I have a bbq hut and tried this today. Game changer! Ive shared with two communities. Thank you! 👍
@JackAcid
@JackAcid Жыл бұрын
Great tips!! Thank you. Stopped the smoke in my living room. Let's hear it for the Scandinavian method!
@robertwaltz1040
@robertwaltz1040 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pete, as newbies to log burner stoves we will certainly follw your advice.
@johngreen8693
@johngreen8693 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete, these are really useful and informed videos.
@gazwild1
@gazwild1 2 жыл бұрын
Just tried this new method for first time. Works incredibly well. Will be using this method in future now. See if I ever get a smoky lounge ever again!
@catherinestrutton5663
@catherinestrutton5663 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , love this new idea , I have had stoves most of my life this is absolutely the best way , just lit my stove the way you recommended and it was incredibly simple and effective. Just goes to show one is never too old to learn, today I am officially a pensioner and today has been a school day, thank you . Brilliant so impressed.🙂
@JamesLoudon
@JamesLoudon 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a great demo, well explained. Going to try that tonight, thanks.
@dkerlee
@dkerlee 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard of top down before, but this is a good demo. I'll give it a spin!
@larrykoz4009
@larrykoz4009 5 ай бұрын
I tried it this morning and it worked just as you demonstrated. I have been struggling to get a good fire going till I watched your video. I think building the kindling cabin high is the key. Thank you!!
@cory5510
@cory5510 2 жыл бұрын
Works good thanks. If your wood is dry enough you could use far less kindling. What also helps is adding some airflow underneath the wood on the bottom by propping up some or all of the base layer wood with some kindling or a fire brick or whatever.
@ReferenceFidelityComponents
@ReferenceFidelityComponents 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thank you. I've always just used news paper and plenty of kindling to start off with but will give this a go.
@MichaelThomson-lx4gu
@MichaelThomson-lx4gu 7 ай бұрын
Fabulous. I’ve spent ages trying to figure out a way to light a fire. This is the way I’ll do it from now on. Worked first time. Warm as Toast within twenty minutes. Thanks
@neillong1274
@neillong1274 2 жыл бұрын
Never to old to learn!!! Brilliant thanks a lot!!!
@Michael-xz1nk
@Michael-xz1nk 4 жыл бұрын
Been doing this for years. Keeping the door ajar works great!!
@darcylemieuxponies
@darcylemieuxponies 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a new house with a log burner and this is a great tip as will be our first time using one - thanks for the video
@TheBroz
@TheBroz 2 жыл бұрын
Same reason I’m here :)
@Rabauke2.0
@Rabauke2.0 5 ай бұрын
Nice mate. My chimney sweeper showed me the exact same method and since then, I am only lighting my fires that way. It works very well.
@briantraskowskie5396
@briantraskowskie5396 Жыл бұрын
Tried this new method. Works a treat. Thank you...
@albanysmitty
@albanysmitty 2 жыл бұрын
This is great, can't wait to try it. Thank you!
@MrEurominx
@MrEurominx 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Gonna try it in my first log burner in a few weeks time.
@a2zpaul766
@a2zpaul766 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very clearly explained method.
@borjastick
@borjastick 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try this tomorrow morning. I might get a different result because I have a horizontal rear flue which then goes outside and up the outside of the house in an Inox chimney, this means it is very cold for most of the chimney tube. Worth a try though.
@redstone5149
@redstone5149 4 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for sharing.👍
@jayrockskelly
@jayrockskelly 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, really useful to know. Appreciate it. Cheers
@JB12132
@JB12132 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this and one of the others you did. Game changers. Owned a wood burner for just a few months now and this has changed and tuned my approach. Last night the stove was running like a peach. Your video thought of everything and has totally upped things this end for me. Thank you.
@petehillier9848
@petehillier9848 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments Jonathan
@jwdeakin
@jwdeakin 3 жыл бұрын
Just tried this today. Works a great 👍
@stevedowber7105
@stevedowber7105 4 жыл бұрын
Great technique! Will definitely be trying this. Thanks for the good video, will subscribe.
@petehillier9848
@petehillier9848 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you steve and good luck
@willshaughnessy8515
@willshaughnessy8515 2 жыл бұрын
From the Rocky Mountains here at 8k ft.. thanks for the in depth info.. We have 2 Stoves.. I use only the main in the open living area.. I see your Cat loves the fire.. cheers
@clivesquire6463
@clivesquire6463 2 жыл бұрын
great idea thanks for this tip can i apply the same method for starting my stove with coal we have a woodburner at home and a stove on our narrowboat just wondered about coal top down cheers
@arifrafique1439
@arifrafique1439 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great vid. Im new to this, i tried this step by step. The issue i had was the two logs on the grate did not catch fire properly and fizzled out. The logs were dry. Il keep trying 👍
@gina_ac
@gina_ac 4 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks so much! Works great 😃
@guysubmarinerguy9387
@guysubmarinerguy9387 2 жыл бұрын
This is great- but the best bit is the cute dog getting comfy in front of the stove in the background 😂👍🏻
@MrSydoo
@MrSydoo 4 жыл бұрын
Just tried this and it worked a treat 👍 exactly as described. The fan was working in less than 4 minutes and 15 minutes later I have beautiful glowing embers! Thank you!
@soorajnandan1
@soorajnandan1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Nice explanation
@andrewwyborn2263
@andrewwyborn2263 Жыл бұрын
Just tried and O M G the heat is incredible and it's the hottest it's ever been. Also due to no smoke it appears that we won't have to keep cleaning the glass which we have had to do in the past.
@grahamkutner-simon8272
@grahamkutner-simon8272 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video which got me started when we bought our stove. Can you tell me: What stove fan is featured in the video? Ours is pretty noisy
@darreldugan1917
@darreldugan1917 4 жыл бұрын
I just strike a match and break wind gets them burning like a charm everytime! Eternal blue flame 🔥
@richardupton9400
@richardupton9400 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been top down burning for years, I found that it uses less wood / burns longer, One good load can keep the fire going all evening and heat 10 radiators by using this method.
@ayladakora
@ayladakora 3 жыл бұрын
Wish our wood and kindling was all neat and perfect cut like that. We use hand chopped wood and the sticks for kindling.
@jamesetal7088
@jamesetal7088 4 ай бұрын
That bit of advice at the end about the cold plug of air was amazing! Thanks,
@Thirdfish
@Thirdfish Жыл бұрын
Great advice, thank you.
@PushOnRecordings
@PushOnRecordings Жыл бұрын
Great tip. Looking forward to trying it.
@patrickdaly2121
@patrickdaly2121 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip. All makes logic sense. Thanks.
@franks551
@franks551 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the help from Visalia CA.
@thebikerepairshopformby
@thebikerepairshopformby Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for posting 👍
@edbarrow9655
@edbarrow9655 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, I have a Morsø 4043. When you say you need a good bed of ash to keep the heat in, I try this but a lot of the ash seems to drop through the grate into the tray. Is there a way to get around this? Cheers
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 2 жыл бұрын
Been lighting off top-down for decades in my Morso stoves. Cold objects above the nascent fire serve to quench (stop) the flames, generating serious pollution for those downwind. Infrared radiation rapidly propagates the fire down into the rest of the startup batch. Of course, it's good that such batch be of very low MC (moisture content), something you check with a meter. That process helps to rapidly heat up the flue, minimizing accumulation of poo that can feed your next chimney fire. Stay safe and warm.
@OldSchoolDad
@OldSchoolDad 4 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for 15 years. It works great. I do it with camp fires too. Smoke is unburned fuel that results from trying to burn too much fuel with too little heat. This method lets the fire burn down into the wood at the right rate, and only burns what the fire can consume. I do use brown paper grocery bags to make paper knots, which I placed on top of the kindling and light with a single match. I never get smoke in the house doing this.
@lesleyrigby5648
@lesleyrigby5648 Жыл бұрын
This the second of your videos I’ve watched, just one question with this new way of lighting do we retain the ash bed as previously indicated ? Thanks
@lawrencekoprowski6480
@lawrencekoprowski6480 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Varry helpful.
@bobnelson2623
@bobnelson2623 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you . I Will follow your advice in future.
@nazi2221
@nazi2221 5 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for the video, we’ve just moved into a house with log burner which I’ve never used before. Should I wait till it gets to 400 degrees Fahrenheit and then start to close the vent and should I close the primary air vent completely or leave it half open and then leave the air wash fully open.
@markm8188
@markm8188 4 жыл бұрын
An alternative method for a box wider than deep: 1. Shovel out ashes if more than an inch in the bottom, 2. Place two short kindling, 90deg to the opening, about 4-6" apart, 3. Place two main logs on top, 90deg to kindling, 3. Place choice of firestarter between those logs, but not falling thru, 4. Place 2 larger pcs kindling on top, slightly angled to main logs. 5. Close door but leave open a crack, 6. Light match and check draft. If okay, open door and put match to firestarter.
@Chester12345
@Chester12345 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Last night I couldn’t get my stove going. Just tried with the same wood this morning and I’ve got a nice fire going. Gosh!
@KenHarrington32
@KenHarrington32 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Pete, great tip there for a new way of lighting the fire. Question? I have the same stove as demonstrated there and would like to ask "What size rope do I need to replace the door seal please"?.....................Great video bye the way.
@lordteabelly
@lordteabelly 3 жыл бұрын
How many firelighters do you reccomend between the kindling? just the1 or a couple between the layers of kindling
@TheOnlyleroy
@TheOnlyleroy 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Pete cheers
@lordteabelly
@lordteabelly 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, i just got a wiking mini 2 installed and are learning to use it. When doing the jenga with the kindling, how many pieces of firelighters do you recommend putting in between the layers of kindling? and do i put some firelighters between the bottom layer and another 1 or 2 between the toplayer?
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 2 жыл бұрын
Listen again to how the top-down thing is structured. Progressively larger DRY fuel bits below. Fire starter ON TOP. Leave door cracked until flue starts to get hot; close gradually.
@josephrobertson9107
@josephrobertson9107 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@ForViewingOnly
@ForViewingOnly 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos, they've really helped with a problem we had with the smoke coming back into the room on cold, damp, still days. Good to see that 4 years on from the original video, the same dog still has its place by the fire in the background :)
@APCD-lw7xc
@APCD-lw7xc 2 жыл бұрын
I watched for his/her reappearance too! beautiful grey muzzle now :)
@vicpugh3685
@vicpugh3685 Жыл бұрын
Hi, can you use this method with sawdust eco logs or just regular logs?
@assifkhan3803
@assifkhan3803 2 жыл бұрын
i am impressed. pete your a proffesor of log fires ..i know your are good .i can tell your are a professional.if your werent youd being sounding like rod stewart.the rusty version
@joshuabensusan2580
@joshuabensusan2580 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I have an eco Hobbit Log Burner, and I'm struggling to generate a lot of heat out of it. What would you suggest in terms of vents, should i keep them open or closed and at what points!?
@stevengrice3105
@stevengrice3105 4 жыл бұрын
Always glad to see different ways to start off the fire. I be trying this way the next time I start up the stove.
@rogersmith5167
@rogersmith5167 2 жыл бұрын
Threw out a badly installed multi fuel (lucky to be alive) and replaced it with a wood burner I followed your method to the letter and the glass never blacks just a slight brown band along the bottom of the glass about 3/4 inch due to the airwash being deflected by the grate after 45mins almost shut the primary vent and the stove is glowing hot, it is a 6kw Invicta Samara, I am living in France at the moment, my sitting room 5 x 7 meters is like an oven.I just hesitate a second when I open the door place a log and the draw keeps all smoke and dust going up the flu good advice. People do say you don't light a wood burner like that,I just say try it, it never fails
@ronigordon2042
@ronigordon2042 3 жыл бұрын
Hadn't seen that before - we'll give it a try in our new stove
@JohnSmith-cs7jg
@JohnSmith-cs7jg 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers, you’re the man
@TheQQRYQ80
@TheQQRYQ80 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for nice explanation
@genuine_legend
@genuine_legend 4 жыл бұрын
I will definitely try that this weekend with my Juno 5
@maninavan.2043
@maninavan.2043 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great vblog. Can you recommend a smokeless coal, as I am I a converted transit van and have a small log burner.
@altomar718
@altomar718 2 жыл бұрын
What a superb video ! - Thanks for taking the time to upload it .... we had a woodburner for some years, and sometimes would have to open all the doors and windows to le the smoke !! - We have now moved and are just having another fitted and will be using this method in the new one
@johnschuster9192
@johnschuster9192 4 жыл бұрын
Before starting the fire I cut my kindling finer down to 1/4 to 1/2 inch sticks 16 inches long.Then I fire up my Bernz a matic torch and light it.Im lazy and don't want to wait 30 min. to get a fire going.I am still using the same small bottle of fuel from 2 years ago..Fire starters are expensive. One other way to get a jump on the lighting is to take a sharp knife ,then cut in at slight angles towards the ends.Make about 6 cuts shaving thin slivers on one or both ends and it makes great torches for starting fires.It doesn't cost anything but time.Dad used to do it while watching tv in the evenings,shaving an arm load of little torches..Dry pine,fir and cedar work best. PS I also lay in two small chunks of wood down just like in the video ,kindling,and when it lights off I lay in up to 3 small chunks of wood that are as big around as a 50 cent piece..Woo hoo look out, fire at its finest...
@julies2276
@julies2276 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Pete! We had a new log burner 2 yrs ago, and hated the cost and hassle for a stove which lit properly only about 50%of the time. We had been smoked out the room several times, and the installer came back and ‘showed’ us, how embarrassing and still didn’t help (of course it worked the day they were here but not after!). But they didn’t show us this method! We are now lighting no problems! No smoke and much quicker heat. We also open a window and the room door to crate a draught at the start, we think it helps on a still day.
@paulhighley5695
@paulhighley5695 2 жыл бұрын
What is the fan on top of the wood burner for? sorry i am new to woodburners.
@francisexperience
@francisexperience Жыл бұрын
very interesting thanks
@timmackinnon5547
@timmackinnon5547 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thanks
@GraceEagle5
@GraceEagle5 2 жыл бұрын
Worked great - my fire was smoke free and started fast!
@richardtod1661
@richardtod1661 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very interesting video. Interested in your thoughts on 'Stove Fans' ? Are they really good on circulting warm air around and through an enclosure ? Stating once again with a wood burning stove and wonder if the use of a flue-pipe thermometer can aid in getting timing(i.e. Temperature of flue) right before closing down Primary/Secondary air controls ? Any experience of Cat Stoves worth passing on ?
@Google_Does_Evil_Now
@Google_Does_Evil_Now 2 жыл бұрын
The fan is spinning so quickly, it's impressive. Makes me wonder and think it must be effective, a little at least?
@Massivehero1
@Massivehero1 2 жыл бұрын
They are efficient for blowing hot air into the room and certainly heat the room faster. Good for starting but if you have any sort of stone or wood lintel above the burner it stops them absorbing as much heat and negates the radiator effect they have for hours after the fire has gone out. Hope this helps!
@kwsbike
@kwsbike 2 жыл бұрын
when starting a stove from "cold iron" I use newspaper to get the cold air out of the outlet pipe, with the door cracked open and the window open to max the airflow into the stove. After the fire gets going, close the window and then when the stove is going well, shut the stove's door.
@peterneumann7145
@peterneumann7145 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Give it a try tomorrow
@SvenK-CAD
@SvenK-CAD 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try that in the morning, thanx for the video.
@Pnev1
@Pnev1 3 жыл бұрын
Did it work?
@SvenK-CAD
@SvenK-CAD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pnev1 have not tried that way' I ush' use little bit of charcoal and/or some fire starter gel'
@andrewbazeley6057
@andrewbazeley6057 3 жыл бұрын
It’s important to use dry logs and kindling too. The “smoke” that was referenced in the video is mostly water vapour and CO2, both of which are used to extinguish fires. Less moisture in the fuel = less water vapour and CO2 = efficient burn.
@Alexi7666
@Alexi7666 2 жыл бұрын
I stuff a couple crumpled up sheets of newspaper up the base of the flue/top of the woodstove and light them to warm up the flue/chimney. On very cold days, the initial blast of hot air starts to upward flow of smoke.
@TheMjhargadon
@TheMjhargadon Жыл бұрын
Which fan do you recommend please
@BreakfastAtNoon
@BreakfastAtNoon 4 жыл бұрын
I love that in the instructions of my stove it says only to have the fuel so high, this guy is like "bruh go to the roof"
@luap89
@luap89 3 жыл бұрын
Love the dog just settle down at the back haha
@obi-wan-cod-obi6692
@obi-wan-cod-obi6692 Жыл бұрын
How long do you typically keep the door slightly open before shutting
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