Ed "Strangler" Lewis and Richard Dick Shikat June 9, 1932 professional wrestling match MMA catch

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This is a historic match between Ed "Strangler" Lewis and Richard Dick Shikat. It was June 9, 1932 and two of the greatest catch wrestlers of all time faced off in the MSG Bowl. This match was for the NYSAC version of the Heavyweight Championship.
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@IronShaman81 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this, it's great! Ed Lewis is one of my favorites of all time, and its wonderful to see him in action. I do want to mention though, to all the people talking about the length of this match and comparing it to the matches of today; the length of matches has more to do with business and tv time than physical conditioning. When a match is planned to go very long, its length is usually worked into the angle and hyped accordingly. For example, Kurt Angle and Brock Lesner had a one hour 'Ironman' match back when Kurt was in WWE. Granted, they are both genuine combat athletes, Kurt being an olympic gold medalist and Brock being a UFC champion, but the 'Ironman' match isn't an unheard of occurrence even done by performers; the Rock v HHH, Sean Michaels v Bret Hart, etc, all performed them just fine. Those are just WWE/F examples, but there are plenty others. While the styles of yesterday and today are indeed very different, and most modern pro wrestlers aren't shooters like in the old days (though I'm noticing its slowly starting to shift back that way as more and more mma fighters and the like are getting into the biz), even the strict performers are still very often in excellent physical condition, injuries aside. I know everyone has a favorite era and a lot of people who prefer one style tend to hate the others, but I personally enjoy most forms of pro wrestling, from the old time 'worked shoot' style to the more performance oriented style. Anyway, just my two cents. Thanks again for posting the great video!

@tritchie6272 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to combine this with the 70's and 80's style. I've seen video's online from the 40's that I though was pretty good. Thez and Gangna I thought was pretty good. I like it when they use some actual wrestling holds but work it to where they don't keep the same hold on for to long.

@rickrick5041 Жыл бұрын

What is a worked shoot?

@grawakendream8980 Жыл бұрын

@@tritchie6272 condition for pro wrestling and mma are totally different.

@tritchie6272 Жыл бұрын

@@grawakendream8980 I think that's pretty much a given.

@CGMedia2023 3 ай бұрын

Ed was the bridge from where wrestling was in the shootfighting days, to what wrestling is now.

@ezsmith3765 6 ай бұрын

This should be titled “The THRILL of watching a German get Cauliflower ears” YAY

@justint8635 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating! This match was talked about in Fall Guys by Marcus Griffin, the book from the 30's that shed a light on the industry of professional wrestling and the Gold Dust Trio. This match was quite an interesting piece of business as both wrestlers were managed by Toots Mondt. The story of this was that Shikat agreed to put over Lewis if he got over on Lewis in a return match. Lewis was supposedly quite reluctant to do the job for Shikat!

@davesmith8877 7 жыл бұрын

Strangler Lewis was a wrestling legend! He was Lou Thesz's trainer and manager for many years.

@shikat2371 3 жыл бұрын

@Movies and Wrestling Yep. Also, I don't think Thesz battled some of "Strangler" Lewis' biggest rivals like Jim Londos and Joe Stecher in the years following his wrestling debut. Perhaps because it was way too early in his career to face well-established wrestlers who already had their best days in pro-wrestling.

@michaelstagar4254 11 ай бұрын

@@shikat2371 Thesz debuted in 1937 and by the filming of this video Lewis's eye sight had begun to seriously degrade. After a gradual decrease in match frequency his vision problems eventually this would lead to his first retirement in the mid 30's. During this period he exclusively focused on managing Thesz, and training guys like Danny Hodge, Dick Hutton, and Gene Lebell. Even though he had a few very isolated matches in the 40's this video is around the time of the beginning of the end of his in ring career.

@louisfair2641 4 жыл бұрын

This a proper exhibition match. Enjoying the commentary, especially "german boy" and "japanese armlock"

@TheTalentTJRichter 8 жыл бұрын

thank you for posting this. the boys today could real learn some lessons from this amazing footage.

@WrestlingFilms1 8 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, glad you enjoyed this classic match.

@moitoboi2970 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome to see old school wrestling like this.

@ForReal104 8 жыл бұрын

I have read a lot about Lewis but never thought there was footage out there. Thanks for posting!

@WrestlingFilms1 8 жыл бұрын

+ForReal104 You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed seeing Lewis in action. He was one of the greats.

@str8uprasslin848 3 жыл бұрын

This Is History. Thankyou so much for posting this.

@donaldwood7449 4 жыл бұрын

My favorite part was when he got him in that headlock

@wendyreyes2832 9 жыл бұрын

wow man this is awesome thank you so much!

@WrestlingFilms1 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the match.

@JosephStankovich 8 жыл бұрын

This is one of the greatest matches of all time, this essence of true scientific wrestling, it's not the brawling, and phony scripted matches of the WE. Thanks for the posting!

@WrestlingFilms1 8 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, glad you enjoyed this classic match.

@Kfowlkes09 7 жыл бұрын

While that might be true, as both of these guys could shoot, this match was more of a show.

@wrestlingconnoisseur 7 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Stankovich You do understand this match was a total work, do you not?

@grawakendream8980 4 жыл бұрын

Why should he?

@tonypastor705 Жыл бұрын

@@wrestlingconnoisseurYou’re wrong. Back then it was real.

@macerton1 5 жыл бұрын

Wow..very sick arm bar chain maneuvers ..the match was theatrical IMO ..several of those arm bars were legit if finished.

@risboturbide9396 10 ай бұрын

Wow, a real pleasure for true pro wrestling fans. Thank you for this upload!

@nickmad887 9 ай бұрын

thanks

@rampage5524 7 жыл бұрын

Come on let's get the chant going "this is Wrestling, this is Wrestling.

@jazzygeofferz 6 жыл бұрын

Both these guys! Both these guys!

@kidkryptonite7140 5 жыл бұрын

This is WRESTLING!!

@ryan_alexander 4 жыл бұрын

WE ARE AWESOME!

@slumpdawg4156 3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit holy shit!

@masahirohayashi938 10 ай бұрын

かってプロレスはアマレスのように真剣勝負ゆえに地味な試合運びだった。見映えがするように飛んだり跳ねたりするようになり客が退屈しないように互いに技の応酬をみせるようになった。見せる事が第一の目標になりファンが喜ぶ試合結果をプロモーターが決めるようになった。

@IAmKillEveryone 4 жыл бұрын

What a treat for my right ear.

@Friedcrust 2 жыл бұрын

Sick

@LordBatRastard 5 жыл бұрын

Shikat reminds me of Baron Von Raschke in the way he moves. BVR was an amateur wrestler and shooter. Although this was clearly a work, I loved the exchanges.

@kidkryptonite7140 5 жыл бұрын

A work of simulated combat art!!

@MdlAgedHeadbanger 7 жыл бұрын

I assume this was a theatrical feature. Is there any information confirming that? The pacing is fantastic and amazing how one commentator does a fantastic job of selling the action along with adding in color commentary! Now we hear three nitwits who couldn't properly call either of these guys walking to the ring.

@atomzero1 4 жыл бұрын

The announcing is really spectacular.

@mr.mirchenstein6549 3 жыл бұрын

SLAM BANG! - I’m guessing this match promoted by Toots Mondt & Jess McMahon?

@michaelkaminski84 Жыл бұрын

If you play this back at 0.75x speed, you'll see the actual real-life frame rate. This was probably filmed at 20 or 22fps non-sync-sound, which was kind of standard for silent footage (which is why everyone walks too fast in silent film footage--it's shot at a lower frame rate but then played back at 24fps, so everything is being played too quickly).

@charleslee1862 Жыл бұрын

FUCKING INCREDIBLE THANK YOU!

@donhillsmanii5906 3 жыл бұрын

AWESOME SAUCE MY MAN

@Bloodsport1 3 жыл бұрын

Ring of honor used to like this during their first two years.

@justint8635 Жыл бұрын

LOL no it didn't.

@adamlane6453 Жыл бұрын

How big is the ring here? Looks like a 20-footer, New York style, same as WWE has had since the WWWF days.

@mda1218 7 жыл бұрын

real men and real wrestling... two well matched sides of beef slowly softening up each other over an hour of combat: no punches thrown, just pins, holds and throws till big ED proved who was best man... true champions

@dcherson 3 жыл бұрын

Were the matches like half shoot half work back then? Pro wrestling did have it's origin in taking on the circus strongman, etc.

@adamlane6453 Жыл бұрын

It was 100% work, save for the instances when locals would be invited from the crowd to challenge the champion. The champion would shoot on the challenger and stretch him something good, maintaining the illusion that pro wrestling was, in fact, real. This is why pro wrestlers at the time were absolutely required to be legitimately skilled, to protect the business. If some local yokel could beat the champ, the illusion would be shattered. So no, the wrestlers were not legitimately fighting, but each and every wrestler had to have real combat skills.

@erichogan5291 7 жыл бұрын

That's a big friggin ring.

@jesseheard 5 жыл бұрын

It's to give them a lot of space to work. Back then the matches we're treated like UFC. I think the ring is 28x28 based on how many steps the referee takes to dikacts corner multiplied by 2 and then 2 again. But, it's just an estimation.

@lendrury2771 4 жыл бұрын

Jesse Heard wrestling these guys are goobers No talent whatsoever

@ryan_alexander 4 жыл бұрын

ONE HOUR MATCH

@masterj4777 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh yes real pro wrestling unlike the garbage today 👍👍👍😎🤼

@hugedisappointment309 5 жыл бұрын

In Nekoosa there is an ed Lewis statue

@wrestlingconnoisseur 6 жыл бұрын

I would point out that this match wasn't to determine any singular world champion...it was meant to determine a number one contender for the NWA world championship, held by Jim Londos. Of course, Londos had gone independent from Curley's trust a few months before when he found out they were grooming Lewis to go over him, and thus the chances of him stepping into the ring with Lewis were non existent (Londos was thereby stripped of recognition by the state athletic commission, although he kept the physical title belt and continued to defend it). This facilitated the need for Lewis to go into a match with Jack Sherry the following October in which he won the New York State Athletic Commission world title.

@fayezfawzi3255 5 жыл бұрын

the NWA didnt even exist in 1932 >_>

@Kfowlkes09 5 жыл бұрын

+Fayez Fawzi. He means the National Wrestling Association, not the National Wrestling Alliance. Two different organizations.

@fayezfawzi3255 5 жыл бұрын

oh. i had forgotten about the National Wrestling Association. thanks for the reminder :)

@ModernDayRenaissanceMan 2 жыл бұрын

@@fayezfawzi3255 1948. Where you get 32?

@wrestlingconnoisseur Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan The National Wrestling Association (formed in 1930) predated the National Wrestling Alliance. The choice in the same acronym was coincidence (and evidence of a lack of marketing ingenuity), but this was old school. The two NWAs were not the same. They even competed against each other, for a time, before the Association was dissolved, and merged into the Alliance.

@boogynights 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't mind watching this in modern wrestling

@michaeltovar9451 4 ай бұрын

Love headlocks, need a heel to work me over in headlocks and other stuff

@JackJones-ke8mo Жыл бұрын

Yeah dude 😎 good match 👍. What is up? Man on man action 🔥 R U man enough?

@ziaakbar2535 3 жыл бұрын

is the video playing quickly or do they really move that fast

@BodyslamMediaProductions 2 жыл бұрын

Cameras were different at the time. I recommend going to setting and selecting the Playback .75 option 😉

@57HarleyDavidson Жыл бұрын

Were wresting rings bigger back then? That wrestling ring looks bigger than today's wrestling rings.

@ModernDayRenaissanceMan 2 жыл бұрын

This accent is an old NY Queens type accent. My dad has one.

@user-ts6vp5cf9e 7 жыл бұрын

I believe that Ed is the strongest man in the world

@tonypastor705 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, he’s far from the strongest. Great wrestler 🤼‍♀️ though.

@scoh840 3 күн бұрын

You are correct my friend. At least in terms of arm strength. Ed Lewis invented the headlock and was famous for knocking people out by constricting blood flow to the brain. The announcers never saw anything like that before and incorrectly presumed it was a choke hold. Hence he was nicknamed "Strangler". Lewis had a practice dummy and challenged others to squeeze the lever together. Nobody could except Lewis

@keioh9776 6 жыл бұрын

プロレス黎明期のスター、ヘッドロックの鬼ストロングラー.ルイスとディック.シカットの試合‼️フイルムが残ってたのですね！パンチ、キック等打撃がほとんどなく、ひたすら極め、固め、締める、腕や肘を擦りつけるなど、Theレスリングとゆう試合！それにしても、キーロック(ショートアームシザーズ)をジャパニーズアームロックとアナウンスしていますが、何故❔

@Provos7777 3 жыл бұрын

is this a work or a shoot?

@RockandrollNegro 4 жыл бұрын

EC DUB! EC DUB!

@k19sparks 6 жыл бұрын

These people in the crowd thought this was a "shoot" right?

@Kfowlkes09 5 жыл бұрын

For the most part yes. But wrestling at this point had many skeptics. And it was being presented as theater rather than a legitimate bout. Like MMA today.

@jg3000 5 жыл бұрын

In Ed's time they were looking for safer moves to sell the action. Moves like the boston crab were invented in his time. This came from the idea that in shoots you get hurt and in work shoots you also get hurt.

@tonypastor705 Жыл бұрын

Wow, back when it was all real😊!

@jodystewart9028 3 жыл бұрын

Has any of you all that like this video considered just watching real submission wrestling matches? They're all over KZfaq. I get it that you don't like modern pro wrestling with it being silly, like it is, but if you want to watch something realistic, why not watch shoot matches?

@tonypastor705 Жыл бұрын

My beautiful mom is 90- and she was a fetus in her mom’s stomach when this match happened! In other words- this was 90 years ago!

@LaptopLarry330 3 жыл бұрын

Is this the historic "Milk For Babies" charity fundraiser card "Main Event Match"?

@johndates9827 8 жыл бұрын

Interesting to see Lou Thesz's mentor in action. Can any of today's so called "pros" go 1 hr. 6 min.?

@certifiedbootygoon 7 жыл бұрын

Yes. Keith Lee is 300+ pounds and wrestled a match that is over 2 and a half hours just last year.

@form_7wrestlingman810 5 жыл бұрын

Kenny Omega Bryan Danielson

@Kfowlkes09 5 жыл бұрын

Lewis is on record for wrestling the longest pro wrestling bout in history at just over 5 hours. Now of course, that match, and a couple others that were similar in length, were controversial for various reasons. Mainly they were done to dupe the gamblers betting on the hometown boy to end it all in a certain amount of time.

@grawakendream8980 4 жыл бұрын

Muldoon wrestlers over 7 hours

@MichaelMiller-rg6or 4 жыл бұрын

Work or shoot?

@Nemowrestling 3 жыл бұрын

Work

@MichaelMiller-rg6or 3 жыл бұрын

Curt Deierling thought so. It looked a little too neat. Still, much more convincing than modern pro wrestling.

@chrisbridges655 5 жыл бұрын

No sports entertainment here.

@stealthbomber2126 3 жыл бұрын

Wrestling is so much better now than in this era. Watching grown men act like dogs, birds, snakes, and chickens was the epitome of wrestling. Thank you vkm.

@BodyslamMediaProductions 2 жыл бұрын

Playback .75x 😉

@63doughnut 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry - just looks worked, compliant and clumsy.

@lendrury2771 4 жыл бұрын

John Smyth 2 jabronis lol goofballs

@grawakendream8980 4 жыл бұрын

Look up Fristensky vs Smejkal if you're looking for something more shoot-oriented

@SDG.12 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine wastjng money on 60 minutes of headlocks and sidemares during the Great Depression. You deserved to go hungry.

@normancarr3015 7 жыл бұрын

Talk to me people.Is this a work or a shoot.

@certifiedbootygoon 7 жыл бұрын

Technically a work. Pro wrestling has always had pretermined winners. Wrestling from this era through the late 1950s was wrestled as if it were a shoot. Wrestling wasn't publicly known as a work until the 1930s. Hope that makes sense.

@Kfowlkes09 7 жыл бұрын

It's a work. When you have two grappling masters going at it, they can put on a show and ordinary people can't tell the difference. Lou Thesz talks about this in his book.

@scarred10 5 жыл бұрын

@@certifiedbootygoon it didn't have works in the 19th century

@grawakendream8980 4 жыл бұрын

Based on what I've read and what I see here, my uninformed opinion is that this is worked.

@grawakendream8980 4 жыл бұрын

you'd be surprised

@SDG.12 4 жыл бұрын

I rather watch paint try than watch 60 mins of goofy headlocks.

@justint8635 Жыл бұрын

I hope that sometime in three years since you've written this horseshit, you've gotten your eyes checked and gotten the moron out of whatevers left of your brain

@63doughnut 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't watch thru until end because there was too much compliance - not as bad as pro, but a feeling of " Let's give 'em a show." Forgive me , but I don't think either grappler is much good.