Listening to the song in the End, while reading it for the first time and seeing all those things unfold on a planetary scale just gave me pure joy

Man that manga was a roller coaster of emotions for me

And yet despite all its flaws, It's in my top 5 along with Blame!, Gunnm, Made in Abyss and Akira. There is just something "real" about this manga.

I think most of the things u disliked or had issues with was done purposely by the mangaka because all the deaths made sense thematically. You’re supposed to become desensitized to people constantly being killed cause it aligns with how many of the characters feel. They feel hopeless and numb which makes them want to give up living and join the colloid. I also don’t understand how u can feel nothing with some of those brutal deaths. Like even if u could see them coming did u not care at all for the characters and not want to see them die. The fact that no one is safe in this manga made it so much more intense for me whenever characters I cared about would get involved in a fight. Like with Miriam for ex. I was so scared for her at multiple moments cause I knew she had a close bond with Elijah. So in the end it felt so much more special that she survived because of that.

I kind of have to disagree about some of your points. I do think that the later half is weaker compared to the first half. Also, the final could have been paced better, it felled rushed and dragged on at the same time. But, the repetition is part of the theme. I think one of the characters lampshades this even (Might have been the doctor, whose love-interest got killed). It's a vicious cycle, no matter how much time passes, hate and violence will return. This mirrors Elijah story/situation. Even the title might be a reference to this, endless as in being a cycle (Although I have no idea what the original Japanese title was and if the translation makes sense). Elijah might have been the MC based on traditional story-telling, but it was more about the world itself and the cycle of violence. There's pretty much no connection between the colloid and him, other than at the very end and even then it's tangential at best. The "World" or the cycle isn't something you can break out from unless you leave it completely ... in this case by leaving to a new dimension. Also something important to note, this was a serialized release, with chapters being release monthly over a span of 10 years. The repetition might not have been this glaring. if you haven't read it in one go. Overall it's a great story, and is probably in my top 10 best Manga of all time, but this is hard to qualify. I still like to return to it every couple of years.

The repetition *is* very much intentional though. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times or more and we have a pattern. Eden is very much about the repetitive cycle of violence that plagues mankind's existence, and how we are unable to break free from it as long as we attach ourselves to other people. We can see that ever since the first chapter with Lane's flashbacks, and how his friendship with Enoa's father was what led him to betray humanity in the first place. Sure, I can agree that it may seem cheap to kill off every female character that Elijah attaches himself to, but that's also part of the point of the story, no one is safe from violence, the same way no one is safe from sin, which is a major thread connecting every arc together. Not only that, but I find that this sort of predictability makes these scenarios even more heart wrenching, because you *know* what's coming, and yet you're powerless to do anything about it, which instills a feeling of hopelesness to every major death that honestly kept me engaged to the end, because there's nothing as refreshing as knowing that literally no character's life is sacred, and that no one has any semblance of plot armor. Point being, as much as repetition can seem as a deterrent to some people, it can also be an asset depending on how you choose to interpret the story. Cyclical narratives are my favorites, and I honestly think that Eden is one of the best in the medium. I don't read books to be surprised by the author's clever and cunning tricks and to see how they explain the worlds they built so intricately, I read books because I want to connect with the character's I'm being shown, and I think that Eden does a great job at that, and you yourself show this perfectly in this video. Is there a better way to say that you've connected with Elijah than to have stopped caring about the story at the same time he stopped caring about life? The moment something evokes this level of empathy from someone, it's when you know it's doing something right. I rest my case.

I still have eden in my top 10 because it's still relevant even today. Yes it has flaws like every series have but eden always went above cliché stuff with no plot armor

despite its flaws something about this manga connects with me in a way no manga ever has before. one of my favorites

i love your videos and your tastes, man ! Never stop making them.

Great video! Adding this manga to the list of things to read!

One of the best mangas. Thank you for making this video!!

That arc with Helena being the main focus was the best.

Love your videos

Yo! He is back!

Best Manga of all time

just finish reading this manga and love it definitely one of my top 5 manga

one of the most based and thrilling mangas i've ever red in my life. this story was like a rollecoaster of emotions..

It was so close to perfection, yet it faltered at the end under the weight of its own ambition. Last couple of chapters basically dragged on and on after the Mana arc and just like you said, I stopped caring. That being said, weirdly enough, it’s still my favorite manga overall. Something about the themes really connect to me that I couldn’t find in most other manga out there. The plot and characters just have this magic to them that’s able to keep me caring, despite characters being killed off at the push of a button (though I don’t think it does it worse than say Chainsaw Man for instance). It’s flawed, but much like Inio Asano’s Dead Dead Demons manga, I still love it nonetheless. It’s also the first actual seinen manga I read so it left a massive impact on me personally and really did push me into trying out more manga. I’m a huge sucker for stories exploring the human condition, and Eden really ticked all the boxes for me.

I still think this is one of the best manga I've read. I consider it to be above Vagabond, Berserk, Vinland Saga, and monster.

[SPOILER] Small correction: Cessie got stabbed because that was the mission, the mercenary probably wanted to have her killed in a remote location but had to resort to kill her there in the end. It's no coincidence Elijah a few chapters earlier is surprised that Pedro only bought 3 tickets to escape: one for him, one for Manuela and one for his brother. Cessie didn't die by accident, it was Pedro's goal to kill her and Manuela choosing Pedro instead of Cessie is like selling out a son again. That is why Elijah takes revenge, he knows it was not an accident and that Manuela chose the plan "kill Cessie and run away with Pedro".

Hey man, i love your videos! Do you read your manga digitally? What's your opnion on physical vs digital manga?

Hey dude great video, if you’d like a good recommendation and a manga that will probably blow up once the anime comes out it’s, jigokuraku hells paradise

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One of my favourite manga

I've always heard that this manga was grrat, but never managed to read it. I liked this video.

Where can people buy volumes 15 and onwards in English?

this needs a finished localization. and a deluxe version a la berserk and blade of the immortal

I wish the author would go back and redo this manga. Probs to hard of a project for how little attention it got tho. But still one of my favorites. I personally liked the virus and I think the ending and what the virus was had to do with all the suffering (to show us how painful life is and that’s why, ultimately, so many people ‘accepted’ the virus at the end of the manga) but yea I still got very annoyed with all the deaths

Heh, I never even looked at this manga like that, it was just cool cyberpunk for me.

I prefer the later half tbh but I do have a bias since its my favorite manga

I dont say this often but you got filtered

But it is a masterpiece

My top 5 = Eden, NANA, Baki, JoJo, Akira

the last 4 volumes were a straight up rip from end of evangelion, but he pretty explicitly says that was his plan from the start in the first volume's epilogue/author's notes.

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Cristals = urusei yatsura lum forever

I think it is a masterpiece flaws and all second to only berserk

Two of my biggest problems with the manga is the whole colloid thing, kind of felt like they jump the shark on that one TBH, and the bigger problem imo, the amount of needless killing. I get that it fits the themes of the story and what the author was trying to portray, but at some point the deaths just held no meaning and I felt nothing when main characters got killed.

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I'd like to hear your thoughts on Solo Leveling. I don't understand the praise for it, other than the art. It's essentially a worse version of Bleach and Sword Art Online. An unlikeable, overpowered protagonist, poor character arc, undeveloped side characters, a plot that is paper thin, and perhaps one of the worst endings in written media. The second main arc is a rip off the Chimera Ant arc from Hunter x Hunter but done extremely poorly. It completely misses the idea about humanity's depravity and of all the symbolism Togashi specifically put into the story. Yet, it is the highest rated manhwa on MAL

Who is Maya? (I skipped all the boring political parts)

One of the most annoying thing people tend to use this manga for is to compare it with Game of Thrones. It’s not a good comparison. So if you’re looking for a manga that is like Game of Thrones, this ain’t it, buddy.

i keep wondering if this person is doing okay, constantly gasping for breath while talking

it was alright (imo)

(From memory) everything after cecile’s death is shit aka waste of time. Good to read if you just want to finish the manga but kinda meh. Good things here and there but meh

i stopped reading it when they made the guy in the wheelchair gay.

Brits read good shit?