The Cult of Hockey's "Jeff Jackson so hot right now" podcast

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Edmonton Journal

Edmonton Journal

18 күн бұрын

Let's do this! The Cult of Hockey podcast. By the Faithful and for the Faithful. Today Bruce McCurdy and David Staples dig into the work of Oilers interim GM Jeff Jackson, who has one applause from Oilers fans and around the hockey world for his work.

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@jamesfranchuk4396
@jamesfranchuk4396 16 күн бұрын
I think we should all get jersies with Jackson on the back. He may be the best pickup ever
@nomadman123
@nomadman123 16 күн бұрын
Don’t pay attention to the haters on social media. Except me of course!😅 But Kane is still as valuable as ever. Exactly the type of player that might have gotten us past Florida. I hope that Kane is able to get healthy and if it takes a good portion of the season, so be it. I don’t know anything about Kane’s personal business but he did some really classy things for the City. As long as we can assemble a winning team in the playoffs, let the regular season help develop the on and off ice chemistry. JJ is being very aggressive and it’s fun to watch.
@alangris365
@alangris365 16 күн бұрын
Kane can help by NOT playing this upcoming season ,get all his surgeries done let Edmonton use his LTD to get another player , and come back first day of play-offs
@KptKrunch9481
@KptKrunch9481 16 күн бұрын
@@alangris365 Yes - but at the trade deadline when we have around 5m in cap space due to Kane's LTIR. By trade deadline we'll know where are short comings are oh where we need depth (defense I would imagine) and we can use that 5m to get us over the top. I hope it's not in goal lol
@oopopp
@oopopp 16 күн бұрын
Because of this Savoie trade I'd give Chef Jackson a 10/10🎉 He just traded our 4th line center for a 9th overall pick!!! From just 2 years ago.
@kelseywalker2342
@kelseywalker2342 15 күн бұрын
Griffin reinhart was a 4th overall pick 3 years ago when that trade happened remember 🫢
@jamesfranchuk4396
@jamesfranchuk4396 16 күн бұрын
Yes! I was waiting for this!!
@docforest4851
@docforest4851 16 күн бұрын
Hahaha, me too! I just looked to see .. had to hear their take on this
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 15 күн бұрын
Jackson is making moves that I have always seen other teams make and wished the oilers would to.
@stevenschembri1288
@stevenschembri1288 16 күн бұрын
Evander (The Real Deal) Kane is one of the premier power forwards on the planet for the past decade. Anyone that doesn't like Evander doesn't know anything about hockey. Evander can play on my team any day of the week. Great player!
@WinterWoolies
@WinterWoolies 15 күн бұрын
But he won't be able to because he's to selfish to get healthy. So ya go head and take him
@dianedyck3474
@dianedyck3474 15 күн бұрын
I would agree with you….hes going to get fully recovered now !
@MahoyEdm.Gardens1972-cx8qv
@MahoyEdm.Gardens1972-cx8qv 16 күн бұрын
At 3:55 of the podcast: The "room" did not want Zadorov. A good player, and a force; no doubt. But he crossed the line with the things he said. The counterweight was the signing of Josh Brown. Without Evander having to oppose Zadorov almost single handedly, and probably getting hurt beyond return in doing so, we probably win the Cup. Like David, I'm glad he's out of our Conference. Here we go Oilers, Here we go!! ( Followed by two handclaps/foot stomps) The Leaf fans will have a hard time interrupting. (An old cheer from the eighties at the Colosseum)
@dianedyck3474
@dianedyck3474 15 күн бұрын
I agree about zadorov …he’s out to hurt players for sure and he did hurt us….im glad he’s out of the conference also!
@rickdebenham4773
@rickdebenham4773 16 күн бұрын
Such a great move to unload 71. Do not understand the man crush David and Bruce have on Mr. Flyby. Another fleece job by JJ.
@gfs1970
@gfs1970 16 күн бұрын
Well Done Boys. Enjoy seeing you talk EDM wearing smiles
@docforest4851
@docforest4851 16 күн бұрын
Im looking forward to seeing how Savoie does in the AHL. I don’t expect them to have him in the lineup at the start of the season, but i hope he hangs around late in preseason games. If he can average over a point a game down there, he will definitely get a shot with the Oilers sometime during the season.
@Polytrout
@Polytrout 15 күн бұрын
@docforest4851 A prospect at age 20 who was a first round draft pick, wouldn't you expect him to start the season with the big team?
@ianjackson3346
@ianjackson3346 15 күн бұрын
Wow! You brought that up about his skating. Yeah, that's what I've seen in this about Jeff Skinner
@ruffFlip
@ruffFlip 16 күн бұрын
Buffalo traded a first rounder for Mcloud 😂
@TH-tl6sy
@TH-tl6sy 16 күн бұрын
I think there is more pressure on them to get better now. They have 4 first round picks in their line up right now and have 5 more waiting in the wings. McLeod is serviceable and has been to a SCF. And is about to turn 25 and Sabres have a young team of mostly drafted and developed players. Gives experience of winning in a room that hasn't had much. Though McLeod was probably the only oiler that didn't find another gear on that run, so not sure he can teach them what it takes to win, because he didn't seem to learn that.
@Polytrout
@Polytrout 15 күн бұрын
Ryan Mcleod is going home. Maybe that will help him take his game to the next level.
@TH-tl6sy
@TH-tl6sy 15 күн бұрын
@@Polytrout why on earth would he take his game to the next level in NY as a 3rd line center and PKer on a bad team. But not elevate his game playing on a 2nd line with Draisaitl for months? His ceiling has been reached. Bottom 9 guy on a good team bottom 6 on a weak team. Foegele had a career year with 20 goals and 41 points thanks to those games. And McLeod regressed from last year. This is as good as it gets for him I would imagine. He's turning 25 this summer. That's generally when forwards peak 25-26 then start to decline around 27.
@Polytrout
@Polytrout 15 күн бұрын
@TH-tl6sy He'll get more ice time on a weaker team. He's going home...it might help psychologically.
@Rainerbrett
@Rainerbrett 15 күн бұрын
Jackson just made Holland look like he should be managing Mcdonalds
@TH-tl6sy
@TH-tl6sy 16 күн бұрын
While McLeod has fantastic speed. He's about to turn 25, and we're still waiting for him to take that next step, and have been for like 2 maybe 3 years. I think the playoffs sealed his fate. He had more ice time per game than Foegele Holloway Brown & Janmark. He had about the same regular season results as Panthers Evan Rodrigue. I remember huge game impacting moments from all the above players in the playoffs (offensively & Defensively). Not sure I saw McLeod in the playoffs. Everyone found another gear except him. Wish him luck in Buffalo. But we needed to clear cap space and he was one player easily sacrificed. Far less sting than Foegele.
@SportsGuy-pe6mu
@SportsGuy-pe6mu 16 күн бұрын
I would have traded 71 last year
@Michael-gc8gb
@Michael-gc8gb 15 күн бұрын
100% agreement on Evander Kane. He's a unique player, who makes important contributions to this team. I hope that he is placed on IR and given time to heal properly. This team needs him healthy and ready to go in the playoffs.
@markstrickland4697
@markstrickland4697 15 күн бұрын
Don't forget Dylan Holloway who led in the hits department! Good job Holloway
@shofforth1
@shofforth1 16 күн бұрын
I like Kane, but right now he needs to get healthy and ready to accept the role he will have.
@tomharrison6607
@tomharrison6607 16 күн бұрын
savoie reminds me of bedard a little bit just from a few highlights i watched similar style
@JeffKing310
@JeffKing310 16 күн бұрын
Kudos for the Zoolander inspired title
@xiaosin
@xiaosin 15 күн бұрын
What JJ is missing is upgrading the Oiler's defence. Oilers is one shutdown defenseman away to complete the roster. Those people who said Kane lacks physical skills probably start watching the Oilers in the finals.
@tjnholmes
@tjnholmes 15 күн бұрын
If I've got my video on during a podcast... I probably clean out my bookcase.
@nicolasderuiter1699
@nicolasderuiter1699 14 күн бұрын
To me, the character and story of this free-agency period is more meaningful than beating Florida would have been. Obviously the cup is glory, but in truth it was the nominal result of one goal. All these great players giving up money to collaborate on a great, heartful team is the real victory in my books.
@joetoh6675
@joetoh6675 8 күн бұрын
Great off-season so far, now let's hope the US of A doesn't descend into chaos and disrupt one of the more important things in life, Hockey!
@dianedyck3474
@dianedyck3474 15 күн бұрын
I understand that savoie is prone to injury and that is why they let him go!…it’s a good thing we didn’t let Holloway go for all his injuries because look what he’s turning into!…I believe savoie will get better and be great for us going forward!
@scottcraig2569
@scottcraig2569 16 күн бұрын
Free agency has softened the game 7 loss….a little.
@nenochukich7504
@nenochukich7504 15 күн бұрын
Even if they win it next year. I don't think i'll ever get over it. That one would of been historic down 0-3
@mathewwelsh9129
@mathewwelsh9129 15 күн бұрын
We traded two players away and got one player back and still ended up with the same amount of Front Teeth on the oilers!
@kelseywalker2342
@kelseywalker2342 15 күн бұрын
I do remember a few years ago it was hot summer Brad when the flames gm had all the hype and love for his dealings in the offseason…. Catapulted flames into a rebuild. These signings all sound good but remember this is signing a 30,30,31,31,32,34,&39 year olds the youngest 4 combined for 14 goals and 2 major injuries and of the oldest 3 it’s a player that was just bought out, and a player that was healthy scratched multiple times so while on paper the line up looks incredible, zero games are won in the offseason keep in mind
@SF1886
@SF1886 5 сағат бұрын
Did you remember Brad also signing Huby to a $10.5m x 8 years contract that summer? You can sign guys at any age if the deals are 1 or 2 years in length for $1m to $4m. Also, you get that Broberg and Holloway will be signed this summer too right?
@jamesvisutskie9406
@jamesvisutskie9406 16 күн бұрын
So no more Believe background
@ianjackson3346
@ianjackson3346 15 күн бұрын
Jeff Skinner, I think, is better on his skates than either Foegle or McLeod.
@drogontargaryen3428
@drogontargaryen3428 16 күн бұрын
McLeod was too soft for this blue collar market... 6 foot 3 but played like he was 5 foot 4 was absolutely horrendous in the playoffs. Great trade for Jeff Jackson only if Savoie lives up to expectations
@nenochukich7504
@nenochukich7504 15 күн бұрын
-2 in game 7
@Polytrout
@Polytrout 15 күн бұрын
I sure hope this Matthew Savoie is an intense player because he's only 5"9". The thing that worries me about small players is that if they stopped growing at 14, they probably won't get much better physically. Big players continue to grow up to age 18 or 19 even 20 and then they grow into their bodies. Intensity can make up for lacking size and overcome a slight skill disadvantage.
@drogontargaryen3428
@drogontargaryen3428 15 күн бұрын
@@Polytrout Im more worried about the weight of these small players rather then height. He's 180lbs and will get on that NHL regimen now. Yamamoto was only 155lbs and never gained any weight throughout his career in comparison
@Polytrout
@Polytrout 15 күн бұрын
@drogontargaryen3428 Indeed, weight is an important consideration that slipped my mind. Now that you mention it, Kyler Yamamoto is a great example to your statement. A couple of other examples would be Johnny Gaudreau and Cole Caufield. These guys are fast and skilled enough to build the nucleus of a Stanley Cup champion if not for their weight. At levels of the AHL or below, maybe their speed and skill can overcome their lacking weight. In the NHL, however, even if their speed is greater than most, even the slowest players are fast enough not necessarily to keep up but to make the speed slightly less advantageous. Make no mistake, I love it that players are faster and more skilled, but at the end of the day, skill and speed are only an advantage if you have sufficiently more of it than your opponent.
@shofforth1
@shofforth1 16 күн бұрын
The only fly in the ointment is Corey Perry, who I like.
@kelseywalker2342
@kelseywalker2342 15 күн бұрын
This is an old team that needs to win this year period, In my mind the line up is Skinner (32) mc d (27) Hyman(32) Kane(32) Leon (28) Arvidsson(31) Rnh(31)Henrique(34) holloway(22) Janmark(31)Ryan(37)brown(30) Extra:Perry (39) Average age of forwards >31 Best (only) shut down d man >34 The good news is the best players are the youngest players, the bad news is they all need new contracts very quickly. Bouchard ~9mil/yr, Leon ~13mil/yr mcdavid ~as much as he wants/yr ( I guess 16)
@SF1886
@SF1886 4 сағат бұрын
McDavid 27 and Leon at 28 are not old. They both have 5-6 prime years left minimum. 97 is actually getting better every year - just like Hyman. People said they had to win the Cup last year and that was nonsense as well.
@claytoncunningham8353
@claytoncunningham8353 11 күн бұрын
Kane is a great player and helps the oilers win. period.
@scottcraig2569
@scottcraig2569 16 күн бұрын
I wonder what Kenny would have got for McLeod?
@dj_badbrad
@dj_badbrad 16 күн бұрын
He would probably give up a first rounder somehow
@romandawydiak4476
@romandawydiak4476 13 күн бұрын
Why not have Jeff Jackson remain as General Manager. And, if he would prefer to not travel with the team for certain road or home games, then he could hire a full time Associate General Manager (who is well trusted) to travel with the team whenever needed. Problem solved.
@SF1886
@SF1886 4 сағат бұрын
Because being a GM in the NHL is a full time position and that GM needs 3 to 6 assistant GM’s. And being a President in the NHL is a full time position
@beamishmichael
@beamishmichael 16 күн бұрын
Is a Nurse trade possible?
@GG-te3eg
@GG-te3eg 16 күн бұрын
Yes. Gretzky was traded so why not Nurse.
@SF1886
@SF1886 4 сағат бұрын
@@GG-te3egThere wasn’t a salary cap when Gretzky was traded. And also 99’s contract wasn’t terrible
@SF1886
@SF1886 4 сағат бұрын
No
@stevenschembri1288
@stevenschembri1288 16 күн бұрын
Corey Perry is finished! Why was he re-signed? Makes no sense.
@drogontargaryen3428
@drogontargaryen3428 16 күн бұрын
His contract has no risk he can get buried in the minors if he sucks... McDavid likes to have some old vets around the room
@johanstinson
@johanstinson 15 күн бұрын
Maybe you should just let the people with inside knowledge of the team worry about it. They have their reasons
@SF1886
@SF1886 4 сағат бұрын
Because the coaches and players wanted him back.
@DaveCo406
@DaveCo406 16 күн бұрын
@40:47 What is your reasoning for not putting Kane on LTIR? You didn't say anything beyond "You can't" Why wouldn't Kane want to get health. Kane was pretty good in the first two rounds and useless in the last two rounds. There is still an 82 game season to get through. The Oilers and Kane should be working together to get him 100% healthy. What's the big deal if that required LTIR?
@thekiltedzombie8230
@thekiltedzombie8230 16 күн бұрын
I think the Oilers could have found a younger quicker fourth line option than the old and slow Perry.
@dianedyck3474
@dianedyck3474 15 күн бұрын
But who has Perry’s tenacity…no one!
@thekiltedzombie8230
@thekiltedzombie8230 15 күн бұрын
@@dianedyck3474 Arvidsson, Kane, Hyman
@dianedyck3474
@dianedyck3474 15 күн бұрын
@@thekiltedzombie8230 Kane yes but Perry brings his own type of tenacity…there’s a reason that bobrovski fell apart in games 4,5and 6…Perry knows how to get under the skin of goalies…he has a great knack for it…ask cam Talbot !
@matthewgraf9449
@matthewgraf9449 16 күн бұрын
Fantastic trade because he just hasn't learned what it takes to play at the NHL level, zero physical presence anywhere on the ice. Never makes a hit or takes a hit and can't ever get to the net
@gordtulk
@gordtulk 16 күн бұрын
Jackson has a very strong case to make to older cup less players. But - perry was a bad signing - not a disaster but takes up some cap and a roster spot. There’s only one puck and lots of players used to having it. Even with manipulation and moves it’s almost a certainty that there will be zero cap room at the deadline. And the team hasn’t gotten tougher or bigger or stronger defensively.
@KptKrunch9481
@KptKrunch9481 16 күн бұрын
Wrong about the cap room - Kane will be LTIR'd that will give us 5m in room. Lots of money to spend. End of season, when playoffs start - we'll get a 100% healthy (hopefully if surgery and rehab goes well) Evander Kane beast to add to our lineup. This is all calculated you do realize that right? Jackson isn't going off the cuff here.
@dianedyck3474
@dianedyck3474 15 күн бұрын
@@KptKrunch9481I agree JJ is one smart cookie!
@DS-hs3qp
@DS-hs3qp 15 күн бұрын
@KptKrunch9481 Wrong again.....Perry's complete contract can be buried in the minors with no cap hit.
@johanstinson
@johanstinson 15 күн бұрын
They're more than tough enough. The Vancouver and Florida series prove that beyond a doubt. They're already a top 5 defensive team since Coach K took over. The big players the oilers lost played soft. McLeod is softer than tissue paper, he's 6'3 but plays like he's 5'4. Foegele isn't much better. Lost 2 bigger guys that have no jam.
@gordtulk
@gordtulk 15 күн бұрын
@@DS-hs3qp as I understand it he’s being paid 250k above the burying point.
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs 16 күн бұрын
Everybody is happy that the Oilers made the Finals, no one demanded explanations ,expectations are so skewed in Edmonton its pitiful, Jeff Jackson was the bright mind that brought the Trojan Horse Mumford into the equation, and that was a major part of the screw-up that last year really was.
@johanstinson
@johanstinson 15 күн бұрын
What are you yapping about?
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs 15 күн бұрын
@@johanstinson Nobody gave you permission to sit @ the big Table.
@johanstinson
@johanstinson 14 күн бұрын
@@BobsUruncle-dl7cs you still make no sense. Are you having a stroke?
@justincurtin2069
@justincurtin2069 16 күн бұрын
Yeah arvidsson is his best work. Man Dave doesn’t know anyone but the oilers lol. Clearly skinner is the best trade geez wake up.
@WinterWoolies
@WinterWoolies 15 күн бұрын
Exactly what I thought. When he said that he reminded me of a southpark character.
@DS-hs3qp
@DS-hs3qp 15 күн бұрын
Skinner wasn't a trade.... the one that doesn't know anything is you.
@RickL_was_here
@RickL_was_here 16 күн бұрын
32 and has made 100 million playing hockey... What the hell is wrong with all of us willing to support that shit? That's ridiculous. Really going to reconsider spending any money at all on this game from now on.
@anythingforabuck
@anythingforabuck 16 күн бұрын
See ya. You won't be missed.
@brentambrose
@brentambrose 16 күн бұрын
Bread and Circuses
@anythingforabuck
@anythingforabuck 15 күн бұрын
@@brentambrose indeed. I enjoy the distraction from the corrupt and demonic leftist that are the reason for the bread and circuses.
@DS-hs3qp
@DS-hs3qp 15 күн бұрын
Don't then, just go away.
@johanstinson
@johanstinson 15 күн бұрын
Ok. This isn't an airport, no need to announce your departure.
@SportsGuy-pe6mu
@SportsGuy-pe6mu 16 күн бұрын
No defensively signed players brutal signings. Hopkins useless in the playoffs was the issue on a lot of goals. Bouchard brutal defensively good for a goal game to the opposite team.
@KptKrunch9481
@KptKrunch9481 16 күн бұрын
Give it time sportsguy - we'll have 5m in cap space to spend at the trade deadline - after that passes and we've done nothing then you can complain lol.
@DS-hs3qp
@DS-hs3qp 15 күн бұрын
You sound like you haven't ever seen the oilers play...go troll somewhere else.
@johanstinson
@johanstinson 15 күн бұрын
Lol. You don't know puck
@jclvmanagement7848
@jclvmanagement7848 16 күн бұрын
David, evidently you haven't done your homework. Fantasy that Kane goes on LTIR? Did you seriously say that? Do you expect him to do cart wheels and back flips on the ice as soon as he gets out of the hospital after his scheduled surgery at the end of the summer? Also, Matt Savoi is just as ready as Bedard was and they threw Bedard into the deep end of the pool. These guys aren't toddlers. Jackson acquired him to put him in the Oiler line up in the 2nd half of the season maybe sooner. You're pumped up on Kane, but there is a high probability Jackson will ask him to waive his NTC and Kane will be traded banking on the fact that Kane's recovery will be quick. If not Kane will be on LTIR for as long as Jackson can keep him out and free up the cap space for a blockbuster trade. If we learned anything about Jackson thus far, he loves blockbuster trades worthy of a big headline in the world of pro sports.
@KptKrunch9481
@KptKrunch9481 16 күн бұрын
Exactly - Jackson is a very astute person, he has a plan and he's inacted it. I'm sure he's been formulating it for awhile as well. It's not a coincidence that he was hired to begin with. He's a heck of a lot smarter than David and Bruce (no offense guys)
@michaelmathieson2513
@michaelmathieson2513 16 күн бұрын
No sound
@elizabethmarkoe7776
@elizabethmarkoe7776 16 күн бұрын
That’s not hockey! Give me a break 😫Who cares
@DS-hs3qp
@DS-hs3qp 15 күн бұрын
Go away and watch something else then....and don't bother ever coming back.
@ianjackson3346
@ianjackson3346 15 күн бұрын
They gotta keep Kane. It's a liberal mindset that doesn't like him
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