Which of these V8-powered American gladiators is your kind of muscle car, the Dodge Challenger Black Ghost or the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500? Let us know in the comments. And for everything U-Drags, be sure to visit our NEW webpage - edmunds.com/udrags
@ItsPinecone_911 Жыл бұрын
As a Mopar owner.......I hate the looks of the Challenger so GT500 is the one Id take.
@roguedogx Жыл бұрын
If I'm getting a muscle car, I'm going full muscle car. So dodge it is. If I were getting a sports car, gt350r is the way I'd go.
@Ccm10000 Жыл бұрын
@edmundscars don’t sell the GT500 and keep racing it 🔥
@benjaminmatute9085 Жыл бұрын
I’m a mustang guy and I would choose the black ghost. I just think the gt500 is very underpowered, heavy, slow, and overpriced. I would just get a super snake.
@ItsPinecone_911 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmatute9085 the GT500 is the supersnake 760hp Mustang......and is faster than the Black Ghost. Did you even watch the video?
@DeltaEcho303 Жыл бұрын
The GT500 (760 hp) beat the Challenger Black Ghost (807 hp), and the C8 Z06 (670 hp) beat the GT500. Lesson: power doesn't necessarily equate to performance.
@vondeezl2961 Жыл бұрын
I keep telling folks exactly what you've said here! weight, transmission, engine configuration (mid, rear, front) gearing, yada yada yada! Will make a difference! Also, people simply LOOK at RAW numbers without regards to TRUE numbers! The GT500 makes on avg. 655 - 663 rwhp! The new C8 Z makes anywhere between 599 - 640 rwhp! (depending on Dyno) Street Speed 717, actually got 640hp on the dyno on his highlighter yellow Z. So at the end of the day, the GT500 isn't making 90hp more than the Z! It's definitely, significantly heavier, it's not a mid-engine car and it's NOT even a direct competitor for the GT500, However, the Ford GT IS!!
@kalgstol Жыл бұрын
While I agree, power doesn't necessarily equate to performance but the gt500 and corvette aren't even in the same league
@mogulme6190 Жыл бұрын
@@kalgstolwhy aren’t they?
@kalgstol Жыл бұрын
@@mogulme6190 stop being lazy and obtuse
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
@@mogulme6190 you’re talking about a top sports car against a muscle car. Mid engine vs front engine, 2 seats vs 4 seats totally different cars.
@musclebone7875 Жыл бұрын
Dodge is coming up with all type of new names, but same results 😆
@justme307 Жыл бұрын
Hemi seems to always lose.
@hacklaurent9412 Жыл бұрын
Money grabber
@DS22723 Жыл бұрын
That's gonna hurt Dodge fanboy's fragile heart for sure 🤣🤣🤣💀
@justpray365 Жыл бұрын
@@justme307Only on this channel. I have seen the Hemi win more often against the Ford at a REAL drag strip. With these types of cars, the driver makes the biggest difference, as well as if the driver is biased.😂. Of course, I would take either car and you couldn’t wipe the smile off of my face.
@aynsleyjeansonne Жыл бұрын
Both of these cars could stand to lose 300 lbs
@heavenhelpus479 Жыл бұрын
Massacre. This clip should be rated R.
@crusader7091 Жыл бұрын
Watching two stock cars racing is pretty boring
@brennan2553 Жыл бұрын
@@crusader7091 you’re right. If both were modified the GT500 would win by even more
@Icygt500 Жыл бұрын
@@brennan2553😂😂😂😂😂 true
@Jeeperscreepers778 Жыл бұрын
@@brennan2553facts😂
@MrDahkilla Жыл бұрын
Lol
@IMGONEIN60 Жыл бұрын
The GT500 is amazing. I’m so glad Ford got away from the straight line only performance that the previous GT500’s had, and put some handling into the package…👍🏾👍🏾
@reyfuentes4572 Жыл бұрын
??? Gt500 always handled like a beast even the old one...
@edmundscars Жыл бұрын
@@reyfuentes4572 The current GT500 is in a completely different league when it comes to handling
@reyfuentes4572 Жыл бұрын
@@edmundscars oh I definitely agreed but I seen almost all gen gt500s get down on local and other tracks...
@YusufSayed-px2xy Жыл бұрын
The 2013 Shelby GT500 had the rear axle suspension that's why it handled like that. The new ones have the independent rear suspension which is much better for handling.
@tinleo3339 Жыл бұрын
@@reyfuentes4572 You mean the old ones with solid rear axe and regular manual transmissions?
@bigguy4u989 Жыл бұрын
props to dodge for making the slowest 800hp car on the market!
@meanmugginj Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@user-gm7ye2nh6n Жыл бұрын
More like on the planet.. my gosh do dodge do any testing with their direct competition cars.
@jasonrodriguez8132 Жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@spectrexr1 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 have some respect lol
@ytsux9259 Жыл бұрын
It's slower than most 600hp cars.
@wallyparker141611 ай бұрын
The Shelby just proved that the black ghost is a myth just like the original story
@ImTheSlyDevil Жыл бұрын
This GT500 will be missed. It's put in so much work.
@edmundscars Жыл бұрын
Sure has, we've enjoyed the ride!
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
@@edmundscars thanks for putting in all the GT500 content since you had it now pit it against a ZL1 for a final farewell!
@twany442 Жыл бұрын
It put in the most work.
@funonly9849 Жыл бұрын
@@edmundscars you can try also 2013 gt500 665 hp
@mikeprice83078 ай бұрын
Missed?
@Bones12x2 Жыл бұрын
I really have to hand it to Dodge. It's very impressive how they manage to make so many variations of the same car without making a single good one. They are like the anti-porsche.
@fifteen8850 Жыл бұрын
Lol horrible take bro. It’s one of the best drivers cars ever made.
@derbigpr500 Жыл бұрын
@@fifteen8850 It's the polar opposite of a drivers car.
@blakew567211 ай бұрын
@@fifteen8850 “Drivers cars”?! Are you actually being for real? Explain to me what exact qualities any iteration of the supercharged Dodge cars have that makes them drivers cars? Is it that they’re obese like the average American buying them? Is it they’re all the same engine slightly tweaked the same way Apple SLIGHTLY “upgrades” each iPhone? Or maybe the increasingly cringey names they give each new limited release? Limited of course only to the number they can sell people
@ElyciusM10 ай бұрын
@@fifteen8850yeah, great drivers car. big, heavy, excessive wheel spin in 3rd. As quick as cars with 2/3rd of the power. Totally amazing drivers car.
@steelpenguin19 ай бұрын
Says the guy that can’t afford a 20 year old civic living in his mama’s basements lololol
@barrettmaxey7504 Жыл бұрын
Yesterday I bought a 2019 manual Mustang GT. I love it. Still trying to figure out how to quickly accelerate from a dead stop. Muscle cars are something else!
@Shiftnlift Жыл бұрын
What rear end gears do you have
@ztwntyn8 Жыл бұрын
Off idle and come into the pedal as you nearly bog hold there briefly then to the floor
@ztwntyn8 Жыл бұрын
Or get dr’s
@barrettmaxey7504 Жыл бұрын
@@Shiftnlift I have no idea. It didn't come with an owner"s manual
@Shiftnlift Жыл бұрын
@@barrettmaxey7504 I really hope u are trolling.. it not man look up under your car or type your Vin number in om ford website. Is it a performance pack?
@chadgraber4575 Жыл бұрын
The Challenger is, and will always be, legendary for the having the most power and still being the slowest among all of its competitors.
@millertym1976 Жыл бұрын
It's true. But they are big, thick girls that just look so damn fine. Lots of weight. Lots of room. Lots of sexiness.
@robw23269 ай бұрын
It's just so heavy. But I think most people buying challengers aren't looking for pure speed. You can't deny the looks and oldschool muscle car appeal it has.
@tiashadrows34698 ай бұрын
@@robw2326its also that beautiful 6.5L V8 Hemi that it has
@markvargas36633 ай бұрын
If it wasnt so heavy, trust it would wipe out these other cars. You gotta understand performance and weight to ratio. But its just the looks and noise on the dodge that everyone loves, be personally i would never care for how fast my car is who cares. A nice beautiful car
@Ibnhlal4cars Жыл бұрын
The boat couldn’t make a single turn ,it takes the Atlantic Ocean to turn 😂😂😂😂😂
@ubeuonly Жыл бұрын
It's a muscle car not a sports car was never meant to be a two seat light sportscaster or pony
@wesleywalls7582 Жыл бұрын
Yet surprisingly it pulled over 1.1G’s in the corner.
@TheJohnmuzquiz Жыл бұрын
Bro, you drive a 90s bmw, sit down.
@Icygt500 Жыл бұрын
@@TheJohnmuzquiz😂😂😂😂
@NvSrAgE679 Жыл бұрын
Add some bow thrusters and she’ll be good to go.
@StmKidz Жыл бұрын
This is why you don’t see hellcat boys trying to race gt500s. They only race gt cars
@yupyup4209 Жыл бұрын
😢 Gonna miss that GT500!! I now view it as the standard here on U-drags that everything else is compared to. I love seeing how all the other cars fare against it. I think you guys should keep it for now! There are more cars to race against it such as a Camaro!
@tomeckland9595 Жыл бұрын
Go it against a 911 turbo s. Bbyeeee..And go the z-06 too. New hero car from Germany.
@mikeprice83078 ай бұрын
It'll be discontinued?
@Viper3048 Жыл бұрын
You guys can't pump these U Drags out fast enough! This is one of my favorite automotive comparison tests on KZfaq. Whoever came up with the idea, it's brilliant. I'd love to see an entire racing series built around this concept.
@4valvemark98 Жыл бұрын
That challenger is disappointing honestly, the tires and weight of the challenger kill it. It just doesn't hook or grip and is shaped like a brick, a beautiful brick though
@emonoe Жыл бұрын
Well said
@maromyers964 Жыл бұрын
Challenger does what it's supposed to do.. not grip as a some what muscle car even though it has a Mercedes chassis
@deansmoker4853 Жыл бұрын
Challenger is a boat, them and their Schatt-packs, Semons and Pinkeyes
@androiduberalles Жыл бұрын
A beautiful brick that makes beautiful supercharger sounds 🤗
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
@@androiduberallesit’s supercharger whines more loudly than producing power💀
@cantbsdave Жыл бұрын
Those Shelby’s are insane- for the money they are legit
@burgerbandit3646 Жыл бұрын
Dodge really out here charging people $100k for a fresh whooping and a nice set of stickers while they get it.
@MikeB-up4pi Жыл бұрын
Ur poor and can’t afford either commenting on random KZfaq videos lmfao
@drfaticus Жыл бұрын
Facts
@cali2468 Жыл бұрын
Yeah their customers are idiots. Sorry had to say it.
@IMGONEIN60 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣👍🏽👍🏽
@tjtrevshootspepsicansandri2694 Жыл бұрын
Most people only buy them because they know nothing about cars and are gonna think they are fast with 700+hp but then realize how trash a hellcat is lmao and people buy em cause their favorite rapper raps about em
@kennethelliott5985 Жыл бұрын
Crazy because the the shelby thats shown is the base shelby and not the one with the optional carbon fiber track package!
@The_Hi_Life Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna pause the video before the race and say the Shelby is going to annihilate the ghost… I wasn’t wrong.
@ztwntyn8 Жыл бұрын
Same here and yeah
@mikehughes8023 Жыл бұрын
Still both cars are good at what they do!🔥
@tonyblackburn5002 Жыл бұрын
@@mikehughes8023yes the Shelby is good at winning the Fiat....well it's good at what Fiat does😂
@twany442 Жыл бұрын
The Ghost got ghosted!!
@mattheishman8435 Жыл бұрын
Real drag race on drag strip where the challenger was built for would put gaps on that mustang
@brandonanderson4117 Жыл бұрын
Can you please do a mach1 handling pack vs SS 1le!!
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
That would be very interesting.
@MikeB-up4pi Жыл бұрын
Both are shir save ur money get a better job quit commenting on KZfaq videos better ur self fiest
@TheUsz28 Жыл бұрын
Oh ya that would be good
@jstreampc5132 Жыл бұрын
the ss 1le auto would probably beat this black ghost or tie it. 4.8secs to 60 is slow for an 800 plus hp. but i understand, too much wheel spin. it's like 80% of the weight is in the front and there's not enough weight transfer when accelerating to give the rear tires grip.
@Mr-Neven Жыл бұрын
I am always amazed how people who review any form of auto Hellcats launch them wrong. You start in second gear. Unprepped surface I get 11.5 to 11.7 (125-128) every time with my 2016. I am a total novice at drag racing but am astonished by auto journalists who haven't figured this out.
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
i have heard alot or mopar guys protesting about starting 2nd gear. Startin in 2nd is the best way to launch hellcats.
@jaredglass2562 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe they have been launching in 1st. I'll have to pay more attention and see how many are doing this.
@yupyup4209 Жыл бұрын
During that second race though even after it was completely hooked up the GT500 still wizzed passed it. And from ready on the hellcat forums it seems most people get around 4.5 seconds to 60. They got 4.8 seconds here but this runway looks pretty dusty but that affects both cars
@yupyup4209 Жыл бұрын
*from what i read on forums
@Mr-Neven Жыл бұрын
@@yupyup4209 The GT500 is a monster. I just cant see it pulling on a ghost like that driving a standard Hellcat for 7 years. I do run 305s opposed to the stock 275s
@DaBrute Жыл бұрын
You guys won't understand how excited I get when these videos drop!🤸♂️
@meanmugginj Жыл бұрын
Facts MyBoy
@Darth707Vader Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9GWjLuQmcDafqc.html
@TheWolfMatt Жыл бұрын
The Challenger is a modern muscle car trying to become a sledge hammer while the GT500 is now a modern sports car trying to become a scalpel. Both beautiful rides but there was always going to be one clear winner here, the GT500.
@burgerbandit3646 Жыл бұрын
Thats a great reference.
@mattheishman8435 Жыл бұрын
Not in a real drag race the gt500 would not win
@TheWolfMatt Жыл бұрын
@@mattheishman8435 On a drag strip with a prepped track and everything set for the best launch a vehicle can get, the GT500 would still win. Simple power to weight is enough to give the edge to the Shelby. The Demon however, that'd probably win at the drag strip but would have been left in the dust on the "U" drags as it can't make turns very well.
@chrisvaughn5748 Жыл бұрын
I mean not really the demon still exists
@burgerbandit3646 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisvaughn5748 What would it do against a GT500? It can only perform well on a prepped drag strip.
@tri3pleagent Жыл бұрын
The Dodge is a one trick pony and you're lucky if you get the trick right. The Black Ghost might've lost to a Mach 1.
@Starky513 Жыл бұрын
Would have* lost
@mogulme6190 Жыл бұрын
@@Starky513y’all are delusional. 😂 definitely not using to a Mach 1
@Justaeuropeanman Жыл бұрын
@@mogulme6190not the Mach 1 but the GT350 would forsure beat that Mopar
@matt-ts8cx Жыл бұрын
I don't know, the mach 1 is pretty slow.
@kahless0173 Жыл бұрын
It would've struggled against a gti
@jonathancolbert6666 Жыл бұрын
Saw this coming. Love the black ghost but it stood NO chance against the GT500.
@chrisvaughn5748 Жыл бұрын
Lmao something up even the redeye gaps the gt50p yall r tweaking
@burgerbandit3646 Жыл бұрын
@chrisvaughn5748 Thats literally wrong.
@mildaudiophile3879 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisvaughn5748I’m a molar fan and it still not beating a Gt500
@Allracinglife Жыл бұрын
@@chrisvaughn5748are u high a redeye has never touched a gt500
@billrusinko729411 ай бұрын
You mean the aftermarket filled Shelby....try that with a Hennessy modified Challenger
@MorGuitarz Жыл бұрын
The Challenger remains as it always has...an overweight, clumsy pig for all the HP it supposedly makes. I mean, 5 or 6 BUS-LENGTHS that Mopar pig was gapped by! The GT500 embarrasses MANY supercars that cost magnitudes more than it does...in drags (where it is limited by traction) , on tracks, and from rolls. I've owned both and there's simply ZERO comparison. The Cobra is an absolute f'n beast. The GT500 doubles duty as a "musclecar" pretty well....but it truly is a track beast, complete with amazing handling, grip, acceleration and the rest of it. The Dodges are relics, since they ARE built on a Mercedes E-class chassis from 2005 and for what you pay, have pretty embarrassing interiors and a rearview camera that looks like it was sourced from a 2002 parts bin. But...as we've all seen, the Mopars perform flawlessly in parking lots in the inner cities while liquifying tires as they do donuts, while lizzos twerk on the hood
@ridethebull4484 Жыл бұрын
bwwwhaaaa😂😂😂 100 percent!
@legionmartin Жыл бұрын
Power to weight ratio, gearing, aerodynamics and grip. These all play into it.
@tanktheram Жыл бұрын
The GT500 runs Cup2s, 180 Treadwear track tires that are 10mm wider than the Challys near allseason Pzeros. I'd love to see both on the same tire. But Aero, weight and gearing all are in favor of the stang.
@unitedwestand420 Жыл бұрын
Neither car have good aero just so you both know. I'd actually say the gt500 has worse aero because of all the sharp edges and crazy front end compared to the yacht on wheels
@alexandergonzalez92789 ай бұрын
Ehhh no, that mustang frontal area is obviously more aerodynamic
@DS22723 Жыл бұрын
Already knew the result before watching the video, that slow brick will never take a corner, meanwhile the GT500 is a great all-around drag, roll, racetrack car package all together. Not to mention GT500 is 47hp less and 82 torque away than the Black Ghost yet still walked the living life out of it Now watch the Mopar fanboys dragging out their more expensive Demon/Demon 170 trying to defend the Black Ghost after it lost to GT500 😂🤣🤣🤣
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
I’m sure they couldn’t attempt to defend it🤣
@mehrdadshams8689 Жыл бұрын
Let them bring their best the outcome would be the same 😂
@DWH300 Жыл бұрын
Shelby GT500. The Ghost Buster
@lancemannion4113 Жыл бұрын
😂 or, Ghost duster!
@ashleysambo4104 Жыл бұрын
Nice comment😂
@doncabana3656 Жыл бұрын
No surprise on the U-turn and acceleration out of the turn what shocked me is how the 500 walked the Black Ghost on the straight drag section, even when the Ghost got the jump the 500 instantly reeled it in and passed it. Ford had the total package with this 500.
@shotsfired517 Жыл бұрын
Well the 10 speed trans does help vs the 8 speed lol
@mattheishman8435 Жыл бұрын
The challenger didn’t get any jumps. It was spinning the entire time. The Gt500 can’t reel in the challenger at all. The challenger smokes it at the drag strip
@Geforcepat Жыл бұрын
@@shotsfired517 It's actually a 7 speed dct, Not the 10 speed that's in the gt
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
@@mattheishman8435then explain to me the 135mph it did at the end while the GT500 was clocking 143mph. That’s straight up walking the challenger. You really think it was spinning the whole time? Delusional!
@Aquineas11 ай бұрын
@@mattheishman8435Did you not watch the second race?
@newmoon9463 Жыл бұрын
The 500 has proved once again that it is the reigning King of American Muscle. It is very good in every performance venue: Street, Strip, Roll, and Track. While the Challenger RE, Ghost, etc, etc, is a very capable car on a prepped drag strip with a proper drag pack, it isn't very competitive anywhere else.
@shotsfired517 Жыл бұрын
Lol mopar is competitive enough to outsell mustangs tho 😅
@Mr.E22 Жыл бұрын
@@shotsfired517most value looks before performance when buying a car
@markvargas36633 ай бұрын
I wouldn't consider mustang as a muscle car a fast sports car yes. Dodge is muscle simple as that brother
@twany442 Жыл бұрын
That GT500 has some crazy top-end. Just think if it had all-wheel drive.
@reyfuentes4572 Жыл бұрын
Then the top end and handling would suffer...
@justincharles6585 Жыл бұрын
I don't think yall understand and, fastest factory ice cars are rear wheel driven, awd drive is good for a launch but gives diminishing returns on the top end whilst it would also make the car heavier.
@derekbanks7377 Жыл бұрын
Or mid engine! I get goose bumps thinking if Ford was to pull that off it will be over!!
@twany442 Жыл бұрын
@@derekbanks7377 Right!
@sherylellingson35389 ай бұрын
Wait till the Mustang GTD comes out. 50/50 weight distribution with it's unique transaxle in the rear.@@derekbanks7377
@SuperCheckit22 Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect example what the Shelby GT500 would do to a Dodge Demon on this track.
@tregaming07 Жыл бұрын
Not really. Demon could do better or worse. The launch would be better but the cornering performance would be worse. I am a Mopar fan, but ik this track heavily favor's the Camaro/Mustang platform. All 3 are beautiful beasts
@CJLX805 Жыл бұрын
that's crazy, I never thought a Shelby would beat a Challenger Black Ghost, does horsepower even exist anymore lol?
@salninethousand2496 Жыл бұрын
Gotta give Chrysler props for the Hellcat thang but they're just not great vehicles - too old and too little development to effectively use all that power.
@jaredglass2562 Жыл бұрын
@tregaming07 that would be interesting to see the demon race it. The launch should be awesome on the Demon ( even though it's not prepped) . The demon has more power to improve the power to weight ratio. Although the brakes on the demon and corning is probably horrible. Would like to watch.
@goforbroke2 Жыл бұрын
@@tregaming07 Yeah the track favors cars that can actually make turns, Mopar doesn’t make vehicles like that. One trick pony with 1/4 mile blast. A demon would do horrible on this none prep surface. Is what it is.
@DWH300 Жыл бұрын
The GT500 is an amazing Mustang. Imo.This is the best overall Mustang ever built. The 5.2 Predator and the DCT Is an outstanding combination in a Mustang that can handle both a dragstrip or a road course.
@truckingjamaicans5045 Жыл бұрын
The launch is dogshit but the topend is really nice
@fredwilliams7893 Жыл бұрын
Yea the gt 350 a better deal for the money ! 350 r hands down better!
@rzjk301 Жыл бұрын
They named that challenger correctly because it got murdered by the GT500.
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@twfinc6855 Жыл бұрын
its always the "challenger" and rarely the winner.. maybe they should bring in some V6's with 300 hp less and it might do ok, like a M3 or something..
@tonyflorio3269 Жыл бұрын
For a car the Chrysler says should be firmly in the 10s, it seems hard to actually get them there outside a prepped track. Still a great looking throwback car, but I suspect the 392 provides much of the muscle car look, sound and feel for a fraction of the dollars. The T/A and shaker cars are very nice!
@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын
Well a scatpack ran a 12.1 in car and drivers testing. And here this 800hp+ challenger runs a 12.6 😅
@pherron7471 Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? They tell you that it will be in the 10s on a prepped surface. They didn't say about anywhere esle.
@Traumatree2 ай бұрын
800hp and 12+ sec on the 1/4 doens't go in the same sentence. There is definitely a problem with that Challenger. A heavier Hemi 426hp '69 Road Runner does exactly that 12.6 on the strip at 140mph...
@r3x_delta30 Жыл бұрын
The cornering ability on the gt500 is actually surprising 😮
@fredwilliams7893 Жыл бұрын
What? Have you scene that car on the nurburing? It's very fast in corners!
@AwkwardYet Жыл бұрын
its pretty much built for the track
@janetsminten819611 ай бұрын
Modern Mustangs are exceptional on the track.
@nodo75759 ай бұрын
It can almost keep up with a 911 GT3 on track mate and it weights 1900 kilos. It handles really well for a big GT car.
@time_on_target Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I’ve been enjoying U Drags
@edmundscars Жыл бұрын
Your welcome @timeontarget6814, good to hear!
@Sayin42 Жыл бұрын
Ford being the last of the American muscle cars still putting V8’s in, I’m glad it won that despite 40+ less HP - good going Ford 👏
@kingshawn1857 Жыл бұрын
I am completely shocked not by the launch but just by the shear overall badassery of the gt500 man oh man🦾🦾😎😎
@heresdamian11 ай бұрын
"despite the dodgy start" no pun intended 😂
@atmartens Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of these is just the inside camera and listening. Love these races.
@wbwayne8887 Жыл бұрын
Dodge should seriously be embarrassed. How many years have they had to improve this formula? 🤦♂️
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
They couldn’t. They just build hype, hellcat everything until they ran out of money to pay all those millions of $ fines.
@chrism869 Жыл бұрын
They know it won't compete anyways ,it's my guess
@turlubambabou Жыл бұрын
Dodge did'nt change the heavy car structure in 20 years ( lack of money ).... Its a car you want to show off and make noise.... The Shelby is a complete sports car
@brandonanderson4117 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I don’t think the track was ever their intended goal.
@dannyarriaga1 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonanderson4117exactly. All these forza kids thinking they're on the nurburg on the daily lol
@michaelglaspir3654 Жыл бұрын
I love how the gt500 is the standard to beat, really says something about them mustangs
@mogulme6190 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t say much…they’re more expensive and came out after everything else…it should be better
@tonyfrance4100 Жыл бұрын
@@mogulme6190The black ghost is $101k. The GT500 starts at $80k.
@androiduberalles Жыл бұрын
@@tonyfrance4100I mean it's not that much different than a hellcat and those are like, what 70?
@burgerbandit3646 Жыл бұрын
@@androiduberallesThe GT500 just demolished a Jailbreak which is an 804 hp Hellcat. A standard Hellcat only has 707, that's a vast difference there in performance in all categories.
@Fmandan77 Жыл бұрын
Okay, okay, I'm subscribing! Just yesterday, I posted that I wished you'd U-Drag Race your GT500 vs a Redeye (or variant) and boom, you guys delivered! I too wasn't surprised at the winner, but I was surprised at how hard the GT500 pulls on the more powerful (on paper) Hellcat. While the race against the Z06 was quite interesting, THIS was the apples to apples "street cred" race people were waiting for. Much appreciated and enjoyed!
@ajmedeiros77 Жыл бұрын
Typical dodge fiat crap. Make it shiny with ridiculous names, power you can’t put down, and idiots will overspend on it.
@BB-pg5kl Жыл бұрын
Now run the GT500 against the Demon please. I'd imagine the Demon would lose even worse 😂
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
It would, it couldn’t corner and this is not the strip. Outcome would be similar or worse.
@drfaticus Жыл бұрын
True!
@BB-pg5kl Жыл бұрын
@@voodoodiecastexactly. I'm just sick of Dodge blow hards always saying the Demon is the best. It's great on the strip with a prepped surface etc. but in real world testing it's a huge fail.
@os2383x Жыл бұрын
Look up Dragtimes Ford GT v Demon. 1/2 mile not 1/4 mile but it doesn’t matter, Demon got annihilated.
@jaredglass2562 Жыл бұрын
@@os2383xyeah, demon was designed for the 1/4. The gearing is exhausted by 1/2 mile , demons top speed is only like 160 ish
@Shelbyisking Жыл бұрын
gt500 will always beat cats
@belltolls198411 ай бұрын
I really love the U-Drag course; it's a very interesting take on regular drag racing, makes it way more interesting and entertaining.
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
Last call🤣🤣 Exposed, Outclassed, Demolished at it’s supposed strength.
@Freddy_Confetti Жыл бұрын
Chill nerd
@cali2468 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying it for the longest. Those Mopars are all hype. Overpriced hype at that.
@cormaro13 Жыл бұрын
@RedYacht it's always a Mopar owner to tell people to stop spreading the truth 😂 how's that engine tick and Trans going
@inline6-b586 Жыл бұрын
Makes a lotta noise, with lotta badass names, but falls really short when it comes to actual performance
@ivanuki3555 Жыл бұрын
what do YOU drive?
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
That’s Dodge! 800hp and couldn’t pull 140mph at the finish line.
@burgerbandit3646 Жыл бұрын
@@ivanuki3555Come on bruh, they charging 100k for that thing.
@whodahellru8124 Жыл бұрын
The GT500 is a muscle car that can perform on the track.
@talkditingsdem5799 Жыл бұрын
It’s a sports car period. A pony car actually which means sports car. Dodge makes the only muscle cars.
@whodahellru8124 Жыл бұрын
@@talkditingsdem5799 Google is a wonderful resource
@beastmodebreez7277 Жыл бұрын
I have a SRT and a R/T Charger. I love these cars but clearly the problem is, they need to be built lighter. They are so heavy it kills the power to weight ratio!
@msimrow Жыл бұрын
The Dodge can't even beat the gt500 in a straight line. no wonder why Dodge is killing it off, it's so outdated.
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
It’s gloriously outdated though. Still has a lot to offer even if it’s not the pinnacle of performance anymore.
@cali2468 Жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DPA lot to offer? Like what... burnouts?
@PetrolheadAEHG Жыл бұрын
Dodge sold more Challengers than Ford sold Mustangs in 2022... And the Mustang sold VERY well (not for anything, it's a great car). Be real, Dodge isn't committing suicide by discontinuing their best selling cars (including the Charger), Peugeot did it, and it's a terrible idea, aside from Jeep and Ram, Chrysler will be dead in less than 2 years.
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
@@cali2468 I believe the Charger/Challenger lineup offers good style, value, model choice spectrum. The top models like this are definitely distinct still even if riding on a 15 year old platform and while have many features that people expect, arent so laden that it changes the ethos of what this vehicle was designed to be. Dont get me wrong, I'd take a GT500 6 out of 7 days a week, but for many the Dodge is still an iconic vehicle that isnt ashamed to be a relatively simple hotrod.
@noahdenham6074 Жыл бұрын
@@PetrolheadAEHGI’m not bashing dodge but i’m throwing my dealership insight in. Dodge will finance anybody and everybody because they go through different banks allowing 17% interest rates while ford won’t finance you unless you have a good credit history with actual income to back it up. This could possibly be why they sold 8 thousand more units than ford did in 22? In 2019 mustangs outsold challengers by over 20 thousand units which was before dodge switched their banks. This data shows that this could be a primary reason for the units selling as they did in 22.
@1470boyz Жыл бұрын
I’m mopar to T and I knew for a fact that the black ghost was gonna get smoked for sure as always . Dodge had more than enough time over these few years to come up with ways to shed that weight and to also put that power down properly .
@justinhawes5193 Жыл бұрын
That tremc 7 speed is the deal breaker. Such a beast of a transmission. I hope tremc makes it for the GT
@tanktheram Жыл бұрын
As a Mopar fan, and Challenger owner - I knew the result before watching. The GT500 is a beast with stickier rubber, better brakes, better aero, a greater rpm band - making its power longer.... and its considerably lighter. All said I still don't want one. Challengers offer a certain kind of magic that makes them possibly the world's best cruising, burnout and highway car. They eat up miles and only return smiles. However, I'd love to see both cars on the same tire to see if the couch-car could close the gap. PZeros are not the best choice for 800hp and 4500lb regardless of width. They're an allseason compared to the Pilot Cup2.
@henryovalles1163 Жыл бұрын
All these dodges are played out 10 years same cars
@dobbins2550 Жыл бұрын
My prediction: GT500 gaps the shit out of that Dodge hunk of junk.
@navawtff Жыл бұрын
Shitty mopar🥱 typical L’s they take 😂😂
@golmudd Жыл бұрын
Challengers are made to race the Ecoboost. That was like a semi with two trailer gap.
@Justaeuropeanman Жыл бұрын
💀😂
@jm-alan Жыл бұрын
I think the fact that the GT500 also has the aero of a track car while the Black Ghost has the aero of a small house was probably a significant factor even after hookup.
@billrusinko729411 ай бұрын
It's an aftermarket Shelby...not a stock factory GT500...Try that with a Hennessy modified Challenger
@jm-alan11 ай бұрын
@@billrusinko7294 I'm not so sure about that - the various Hellcat iterations over the years have been known to spin their wheels well over 100mph if you really boot it. It wouldn't surprise me if, especially on unprepped concrete, a reliably poor surface for traction, that the Black Ghost was spinning and/or cutting power all the way through the 1/4mile, even on the 2nd race. It would also mean that the "roll" doesn't actually meaningfully solve the traction issue for the Challenger bc whatever speeds it was pulling out of that u-turn wouldn't have been nearly enough to actually let it put the power down
@johan_GT4.67 ай бұрын
@@billrusinko7294😂😂😂😆
@anthonyc8499 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see a real opponent for the GT500! Fun race and the outcome was perfect.
@wbwayne8887 Жыл бұрын
😂...let me know when one shows up.
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
How’s that a real opponent? That dodge seems like regular GT/SS tier despite it’s million hp🤣🤣 what a pos car. Mopar or no car🤣
@TheLastJayL Жыл бұрын
Real opponent?
@BB-pg5kl Жыл бұрын
@@TheLastJayLsomething in the same class of cars.
@chrism869 Жыл бұрын
@Jayleslie80 it is, same class ,just wait until dodge do a track oriented version of the hellcat
@user-he7xu9ez7k Жыл бұрын
Seems as though the fastest car in this race, won. 🤔
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
Right??
@98v6 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a U-Drag with the Shelby against a ZL1 1LE!!!!!! Maybe, also a gauge that shows gas/brake pedal input. Thanks for the awesome content. ❤️🤓
@TheWolfMatt Жыл бұрын
I second that. It'd be nice to see the going out production ZL1 1LE against the best of what Shelby has to offer. Should be surprisingly close between those two.
@chadkent1241 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be close. Gt500s regularly trap 134-135 mph and no ZL1 in any instrumented test has bettered 125 mph. It would get decimated in this race.
@camonly849 Жыл бұрын
The gt500 would probably win due to the power in the straights, but the zl1 would catch up in braking and cornering.
@ztwntyn8 Жыл бұрын
Both great ideas
@TheWolfMatt Жыл бұрын
@@camonly849 That would be most likely. The GT500 is an all around beast of a car, as is the ZL1, but the GT500 would end up being the victor simply due to the power it can put down. The cornering and braking are excellent on the ZL1 but won't be enough to balance the acceleration and top end of the GT500. Would still be fun to watch, would probably be a closer race than against the Challenger Black Ghost.
@hondass98 Жыл бұрын
More like the 100k Black Boat.
@yupyup4209 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see prestine examples of older cars going against each other! Like a Trans Am vs old Mustang, GTO vs old GT500, Skyline GT-R vs Evo, etc.
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
It would be a treat. My money is on the evo. Awd and good handling will do wonders to it compared to trans am mustang camaro of the same year.
@yupyup4209 Жыл бұрын
@@voodoodiecast Those old Evos were legendary for their time. A $500 dollar tune that you download from the internet and you had an affordable super car! The top trim level Eclipse actually had the same engine I believe and AWD but it was a much simpler AWD system
@kennethmukuka3715 Жыл бұрын
Just love the sound of the Mustang supercharger
@yupyup4209 Жыл бұрын
That's both of them making that glorious whine! Must have sounded amazing in real life
@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын
Buy a buick regal gs for like 1k and remove the sound deadening stuff. Now you have loud supercharging noises.
@ProfitBoss5 ай бұрын
I rented a GT500 same as the one in the video while on vacation in Orlando last year. The owner had fit a smaller charger pulley and exhaust to take it to 900hp and wow was it the best car I've ever driven and I've tried a lot of different cars.
@1c3sly13 Жыл бұрын
Best thing about the Challenger having better sales than the Stang and Camaro is there's more Mopar people to beat.
@deansmoker4853 Жыл бұрын
They practically try to give them away to people. 50% of them end up drifting around in a circle with no doors...in a game where I still have not figured out how you win.
@deansmoker4853 Жыл бұрын
Second rate cheap ass versions of a Shelby.
@deansmoker4853 Жыл бұрын
Look into those sales for real, 20% of Dodge products wear sold at flat rate to police officials, they are now losing those sales with the intercepter being added back on to the Explorer.
@YungREDA Жыл бұрын
Mopar vs the world
@StingerOfNewOrleans Жыл бұрын
@deansmoker4853 that's not true...down south they use Tahoes and Explorers up north they use explorers for 4wd but also use chargers because they were getting awd r/t...dodge can't count fleet sales because the cops don't buy challengers so your comment doesn't make sense...the challenger outsells the mustang and camaro period
@Firehawk-205 Жыл бұрын
@10.07 " Video Data Thingy" I noticed as soon as it hit 2nd gear (Black Ghost) it bogged right down, almost like CPU pulled out the timing reducing power. . . .maybe detonation ? or heat soak? wondering if the "Black Ghost" had the correct octane ? Something seems off. . .. The Black Ghost should of reeled him in due to GT hooking up and getting ahead to mid-range of straight away. How many miles on the Black ghost?
@ztwntyn8 Жыл бұрын
💩
@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын
Here we go 😩
@donbjorkland1386 Жыл бұрын
I agree, the Dodge is down on horsepower big time, something going on with that car .
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
That show’s it’s reliability. Dodge just stuff some power on it and call it with some hype but it won’t perform.
@hurdthenerd Жыл бұрын
Lmao would’ve lost regardless. Nothing wrong with the car.
@daryl9799 Жыл бұрын
The Black Ghost is a fraud the story has been debunked already lol So you pay 103k for a hellcat with a few emblems and new stickers. Good on you dodge you milked that one good I'll give you that! I feel sorry for the sucker that paid over a million for the original Black Ghost.
@roydub4820 Жыл бұрын
You should have seen my face when you said FRONT WHEEL DRIVE!!...😂😂
@coolk9dogs Жыл бұрын
All knew how this was gonna go lol
@taylornelson601 Жыл бұрын
Please do zl1 vs gt500
@taylornelson601 Жыл бұрын
This
@Jeeperscreepers778 Жыл бұрын
gt500 would win
@race-ist5point0 Жыл бұрын
I really love the Challenger too but it's amazing how it can't match the GT 500 with more HP.
@pantsonbackwards11 ай бұрын
challenger is old and ugly, time for a new car dodge, all thyve done in the last 20 years is try to shove a bigger engine in everything, move on design team, move on
@blakew567211 ай бұрын
Contrary to American car logic, sometimes neglecting every other aspect of a car to squeeze more power out of the engine leaves you with a worse car. Crazy I know…
@29kalel4 ай бұрын
GT500 running with corvettes while being heavier and less aerodynamic is impressive
@thedumbconspirator4956 Жыл бұрын
As a challenger owner, what they really need is a good traction control system. The car is pretty analog and driver focused and thats both good and bad. Its old school, but you could tell that dodge really needs to hire more geeky computer guys to program a good traction control system.
@ThomasFiveTwo Жыл бұрын
The better car won
@gjones9842 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap that looks like sooo much fun. Shelby all day everyday
@pagefamily8245 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that the interchiller was the best piece of equipment they ever made and built for a muscle car you can use your AC to cool your supercharger with a flip of a switch it is the best thing they ever made
@robsolf Жыл бұрын
I like the Udrag format. Short and sweet head to head that's not just about acceleration.
@ThatOnedude37411 ай бұрын
As expected dodges are getting walked by anything making compareable power..the power to weight ratio ain’t it.Gimme that ford all day.
@fastcars2381 Жыл бұрын
Looks like big power for loosing 😂😂
@bikebudha01 Жыл бұрын
The supercharger on the Dodge is the sweetest sound in the auto industry...
@KhanhNguyen-iv4cd Жыл бұрын
The boat could lose 100 times over and i’d still take it over the mustang. Nothing beats the aggressive look of the widebody challenger.
@sleekf1503 Жыл бұрын
Widebody? That's not a widebody mate... Those are some flares from a dodge ram
@ElvisCarReviews Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t expecting that wide of a gap
@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t expecting the gt500 with a bad start to pass it like it was standing still. 😅
@ElvisCarReviews Жыл бұрын
@@dnegel9546 That just show you how slow those hellcats really are lol
@vladkvs Жыл бұрын
He launched at 1000 rpm lmao, its a joke.
@bigd1345 Жыл бұрын
I was, Challengers are all bark, absolutely NO BITE. Please lower the price on these sorry Challengers. They're definitely a rip off.
@dogerlambo2494 Жыл бұрын
Kinda strange I think🤔
@nickzarnetske9994 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a new GT500 vs and original 60's. I know what would win, but it would great to see how far we've come in the automotive world!
@burgerbandit3646 Жыл бұрын
I believe this was done around the time of the GT500's launch.
@danimal865 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the new one would destroy the old one. Like bad.
@dinosoarmotorsports Жыл бұрын
U-Drag format is awesome...tired of seeing EVs, AWD and 700-HP monsters just doing a straight-dominate demo. The braking and turning bit is real nice modified drag to see more balanced cars.
@test987665 Жыл бұрын
The format is nice, but can you maybe feature more than the same 10 cars over and over?
@voodoodiecast Жыл бұрын
That GT500 which they owned for 3 years is going away. That’s why it keeps getting featured before they sell it.
@04mach1speed Жыл бұрын
103,000 for a dodge. 😂😂
@Jeeperscreepers778 Жыл бұрын
absolute pos. they create new names but the results stay the same with them still losing. atp it’s just a money grabber
@mattpuryear8370 Жыл бұрын
12.6 for the Dodge is due to tire and/or driver. But there is no excuse for the 123 mph trap speed . 707hp hellcat's trap that heatsoaked in the summer.
@chadkent1241 Жыл бұрын
It's just a fact Predator > any Mopar engine
@susanestes418 Жыл бұрын
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@carltongray3302 Жыл бұрын
That black ghost left some ponies at the factory lol
@zcat10067 ай бұрын
Edmunds U-Drags is better than Carwow races. KEEP going!
@steve_the_designer Жыл бұрын
All that power and Dodge can't put it to use in the metrics that matter. Fail.
@22vx Жыл бұрын
The entire Mustang line is superb👍
@chavisberrien4844 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 at the End When he said making the dodge go ghost 👻 😂😂😂
@realone2321 Жыл бұрын
A brick with wheels vs a work of art
@ProjectAjax Жыл бұрын
Yesss! YESSSSSS!!!!!!! :) I asked for this last week!!!